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Hey! You forgot to compare . . . nah, never mind. You got it all. Cheers!

The Sportster S I found uncomfortable being perched on top and spread out so far but that’s due to nerve damage issues in my spine acquired over a 38 year span of riding everything, dirt, trials, cruiser, cafe you name it. The 2023 Nightster Special has my name written all over it just not my wallet quite yet. Brilliant step forward for Harley despite the complaints of traditionalists. Plenty of air cooled mills left for you guys

Fantastic vid mate, enjoy watching and listening what you do and say. My wife and I will be looking at these both for us. After riding them we were blown away. These are modern Harley Davidson’s, the most important thing though is they fit us more than all the other bikes we have ridden, regardless of being a Harley or not. Ride safe 😊

Thanks mate great video, looking forward to the nightster ride..

Great job, Paul! Very thorough and I enjoyed it a lot!

Nightster is my choice! Great video. Thanks!

Great video . I’m looking to buy my first bike. And you really gave a lot of great information. 💪🏽

That was great 👍. Lack of suspension on the S probably explains the balloon tires . When you moved the controls to rear it made me think that a Bronx is still possible. Perhaps a Sportster S with the Nightster suspension or at least the same amount of travel. Any way great job.

Thanks for all the info, it’s simple, the Sportster S for me, the Nightster for my wife (although I will borrow it once in while)

Hi, thanks for doing this, very much appretiated!

Prefer the looks of the Nightster, more of a traditional Sportster look, but it should be much cheaper.

Really useful video - thanks so much

Definitely went with the Sportster S; cruise, forward controls, 121 HP, heated grips, tech package, bobber styling, flat tracker exhaust, wind-screen and tail options, were the way to go for me. The down side for me is the fuel capacity. The Sportster S should have a 4.0 gal tank; on the other hand, the firm suspension (although adjustable) is tight enough that you're going to want to get off and walk around every 120 miles or so anyways, so the extra fuel stops are not really a problem. The preload adjustment (knob) on the single rear shock is a win for the Sportster S. Configurable ride modes is pretty hip, on the Sportster S. Although both bikes have LED all around (all modern bikes should follow suit) the pill shaped front lighting aesthetic of the Sportster S is preferable for me, and at night is really superb. marcus

I bought a 2023 nightster S, for my wife, but I myself would prefer the Sportster S

Very informative video. I just rode the Nightster so far. Neither of the 2 dealers i went to today had a Sportster S.

prefer looks of nightster but harley in my opinion doing good job 👏 keeping eye out for rumored small bmw cruiser roctaine.

Would looove to see a comparison like this between the S and the new FTR1200. Also glad to see the visual comparison on the lean angle. That’s a great first 👍

Just bought a 2024 Nightster Special. Should be here tomorrow, im excited!

Thank you for this video and I've made my decision, it's the S model, the Low Rider S that is.

Excellent review! I think the Sportster S appeals to me more. With the exhaust placement, there will be no light touring options however.

Great stuff, thanks! I like the sportster S

Love these bikes… I have a 22 FXLRS but I wouldn’t mind having either one of these to rip around on too. Trying to talk my GF into getting a Nightster so ya know, I can “barrow” it from time to time 😆 Ps. Both are clearly best suited stock for average height individuals 5’8”-6’2”

As an owner of the sportster s and have ridden the nightster I can say I love both bikes. But definitely more bang for your buck with the sportster s. I'll be buying my wife the nightster in the future tho.

Hmmm... Well, I already have an 05, Custom Built, SE1200C, Sportster Bobber that I absolutely luv. And, a 100 Year Anniversary Edition FXTS Softail Springer that I, also, absolutely luv. They're my Cruisers. So, if I was to get another HD, it would be one that's a super performing high horsepower, "Menace to Society," HD that I could just go nuts on. It most definitely would be the Sportster S!!! A Tricked Out, High Speed, Sportster S with Custom Exhaust and High Perfomance Tune. Oh, it would have to be HD Black, too, like my other Bikes... :-) Great comparison! :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)

I have to admit the variation of the cost of the same model in those countries you mentioned baffles me a bit. I periodically covert prices to U.S. dollars and find the differences glaring. Some of it is understandable due to shipping cost but the tariffs seems to hit Harley especially hard.

Thanks so much! Best reveiw Ive seen so far. I think I have found me a bike for my short ass 🙏💐

The Nightster Special is a great bike which addressed some of the things you didn't like Nightster.

thailand nighster S is $17,000 usd. Sporster about the same before you add pillions seats; sissy bar; new handle bar; add $1500.00 usd to make it useable. i hear big differnce in control with fat tires ! Asked the dealer; sit on the seat; stretch the pegs on the sporster and you can't reach the handlebars !! amazing.

I like the bodywork style better on the Sportster S but I I hate the big fat wheels for preactical reasons I would sell the wheels forks and brakes off my S and put a donor front end (Triples and all) all off a nice Liter Sportbike along with a set of forged wheels and correct sized wheels 17" of course....And of course rearsets a lighter exhaust and a lithium battery if it does not have one new. Hopefully all that would remove close to 40ish pounds? with a lot of it being unsprung. My goal would be to finally own a Harley Sportbikej.....too bad Buell isnt still at with Harley as I think the RevMax motor could be ideal for that kind of build!

Definitely would just spend the extra for the S. I like the taller seating Position, and better lean angle. Also has room to be lifted more and hopefully there will be a rearsets kit someday

I found one with a TBR exhaust.

Could you do a comparison of both with the Honda cmx rebel 1100? Interesting to see the performance differences

I stand at 6'1 as well and ended up going with the nightster mainly because of the handling and torque snapping on faster, I test drove both bikes back to back and the nightster hit 60 faster than the sportster S, maybe it's just me but I believe the nightster was the better buy for ME but everyone will be different. The forward controls on the Sportster S are a little uncomfortable with the handlebars and the ride position will make you uncomfortable after mer minutes on the bike, however, the nightster, I've ridden for 4-6 hours at a time and have never been uncomfortable on it. My only complaint with the nightster is the lack of accessories but it being Covid times, I understand. I simply cannot wait for Screaming Eagle to get some performance parts for the nightster on the market so I can wipe the road with every Sportster S I see. Hope this was helpful.

Hi nice video do you have any idea how much the maintenance cost for a service

The 883 is sadly not available in Europe as well :-( very sad bcs I dont like the watercooled engines

Nightster for me!

The Nighster is really Harley's reply to the rebel 1100 IMO, except it has most of those features that you actually like on the Sportster S :) (except for blue tooth) I love that the Sportster S looks like a thug 😂

Thanks!

The bar end mirrors are a nightmare for anyone commuting as lane splitting will become increasingly limited. Putting a passenger on the Sporty S is a very big expense so make sure you know what you're up for if your gal wants a dink.

adjustible suspension; manual vs; triumps tiger GT or tracer 9GT with it being fully automatic depending on load . Lets not even get into that mini round display vs a 7" full color tft that displays all you need !!

add a price for Thailand. probably up near 33k usd

I have rode both of these bikes back to back and prefer the nightster. I am 5'5" and found the Sportster s uncomfortable and couldn't ride that bike for more than 1 hour

I'd put money on Harley making an even larger Rev Max engine for a Tourer or bagger. I think everyone could appreciate a 1700cc-1800cc tourer with near 200 HP. Most sport bikes would think twice about taking one on. It's about time Harley moves on.

I rode both bikes on a limited demo run but if you have the money buy the S but either bike is excellent. I was shocked at how fat the S front tire is but it didn't seem to bother the handling. If you like either one you should definitely take one out for a bit.

So, does it make sense that the more sporty Sportster S has forward controls?

Between the 2 it wiuld be the Sportster for sure...with mini apes.

That's a good video but you are terrible at math. The Sportster S produces 35% (34.44%) more power, not 25%! 🤣Beside that, that was a very thorough video and I enjoyed and have learned alot! ☺

You did mention that the nightster has a move comfortable ride but Does the Sportster S with the higher seat position and Extra suspension adjustability provide more comfort and stability over potholes and bumpy roads with rougher terrain? And does it's more forward seat position provide more stability and less shaky movement over those types of less snooth roads?

Sportster S Power ♥️🤟🔥🔥🔥

Definitely the Sportster S with mid controls, the mini apes and the screen. Both of these bikes are very good. I think Harley deserve plaudits for their work here.

Sportster S is better option between Nightster 975T and sportster S in Australia with out a question. If you want a cheaper option then Softail standard is the best option( two up ). Nightster S has nothing Harley-Davidson- even the bar end mirrors are plastic- those Nightster Foot pegs are meant for 10 year child. The Nightster is very uncomfortable ( it felt like lying on my face on Nightster S). If you want to save your coccyx and spinal cord go for softail standard + aftermarket suspension.

Many here in the US are complaining about the high price of the Nightster. A whole lot of plastic components on this bike.

Now cost the Sportster S in Germany 19400€ and the nighster 16500€ Thats Crazy 😮

For the price of the new Hd line up, i'll rather buy a Beemer(Triumph you name it) and keep on playing with my 2006 sporty 1200.

For me the Nightster is a better looking bike. 👍

The tank on the Sportster S definitely doesn't hold 11.8 liters. The best I can squeeze in is about 10 if I stand it up. I think because you are top filling the Nightster you would likely get closer to that 11.7 where the capacity of the Sportster S leaves air at the top of the tank.

this riding positions is the reason I do not understand why Harley doesn't have a Nightster S with the 1250, I personally do not like feet forward riding, and much rather have the 1250 performance, in the Nightster frame with the low slung exhaust.

Sportster S ❤

Comparing exchange rates looks like Australia gets flogged hard with Harley Tax and considering these bikes are made in Thailand just look at label on the bikes as I've seen it in person.I love the product but seems like we Aussies always get charged a @#$% load more

neither... i'd take a Softail Slim or a Softail Standard.

Except sportster produce 95 nm under 3000 rpm 👍🏻so it will not better launch from idole rpm unless have much shorter first gear 👌🏻 nonless in racing style start sportster achieve 100 km/h much faster 👌🏻its engine in terms of performance = elasticity and max acceleration is muchbetter than nightster 👌🏻lean angle is not results how bike coan fast go into corners : other factor are tire profile width elasticity and center of gravity hight and 2 surprise hear for most car driver ., wider tire at the same lean angle mean you drive in corner slower and 2 lower coff gravity hight also mean you drive in corner slower at the same lean angle cos it work like normal leverage 👌🏻 the higher centrę of gravity hight the biger force is aplied at the same lean angle 👌🏻 try put vertical 1 metres stick from 30 degree angle be grab lowest posiible now try do the same with 2 metres stick be grab ot the same from the same lean angle 😎 2 metre give you much biger resist and you be feel that you must use much biger force to straighten it verticaly 😁 so on bikes lower centrę of gravity hight not necessery mean better for cornering like in car 👍🏻feg suzuki gsxr 1000 have mich higher centrę of gravity hight than h-d vrod 😎 quees which go faster into corner 😜

Harley 883 iron evolution not a fan of the new nightster

can't compare; one for persons under 5'4"; sportster s you can stretched out for long legs. All else; does not matter if you can't ride the nighster S being 6' tall . Dealer also tellls me of heat pouring out on the NS. you can't wear shorts ever !

It's a mixed bag for me too . Harley Davidson has built enough motorcycles to know who they want to sell these new models too . I'll be looking for your fallow up articals with seat time on both models before you fall in love with one . We know you will because everybody knows how louse you are when it comes new model time . Me Too . . . 'There Here' T/C/E

Indian scout

I wouldn't Buy ether one at this point they both have to many compromises for that price.

If somebody wants to burn that much money for either, Sportster S is way better and very fun bike, although not very practical for anything. I tried them both. Nightster was complete crap. I can't say one good thing about it other than it being a motorcycle. Pan Am is also great if looking for water cooled Harley.

Sportster S wins!

I think the nightster is way overpriced. The Scout looks better, has more power and bigger tank. (No rider modes alrighty but that is unnecessary on a sub 100hp/nm bike imo. The Sportster S is expensive but laden with electronics, has a class leading engine and a unique appeal with aggressive looks. Same price as the FTR S. Okay I might be biased as I have just bought my Sportster S lol

I came to see a sportster ? Hmm didnt see one , i did see some new harleys but where are the sportsters , lets admit it guys , the air cooled days are coming to an end just like the kick start disappeared , you see the more tech they use the more you have to take it to them to fix ,money money money , thats all that matters , im glad im a real biker and not just a bike rider , after 2004 the sportser went crap , the transmission can only be fixed by totally seperating the cases where as my 96 i can just pull the clutch out and trap door allows me to pull the entire tranny ,super easy and motor doesnt have to be pulled completely apart , it works perfect why change it in 2004 , Harleys days are numbered they make more money from clothing then bikes now , what does that say about thier bikes ......over priced and too little too late , they should have been inovating long ago , now there trying to play catch up but not adjusting pricing .

Every review says the starter dont have enough power to turn the engine over everytime ! What a shame! revzilla review.....

Sportster is miles ahed of nighster, in every way - specially styling.

must have forwrad controls and new handlebars; your legs are NOT like in the photo if your 6' . Your knees are higher than your butt; that ruins your back/spine. ; This the sportster must have the use of forward pegs; and then show the salesman that you can't reach the handbars; !!! his solution is to spend 700.00 usd for new handlebars !!! now new $$ for pillion seat/back rest; and pegs !! Those Pass. pegs should be standard !

Ez. Air cooled does not work in climates

The Sporster S is by far the better buy. The Nightster is way over priced. That bike should be in the $12,000 range. For what it costs it makes no sense to buy that bike over a Sporster S.

If it's a Harley, it's overpriced. Your mileage may vary, of course.

The scout,….. wait you’re only comparing turds…

I don't like the seat how is my girlfriend going to sit on the back and the weard tail light

Ok so in NEW ZEALAND that makes them both a Rip Off…!!!

Is this comparison even legal? Bro sporster S ANY DAY . Y’all are tripping …….

I have a Nightster 975 and I would recommend spending the extra money for the Sportster S. Nightster 975 is trash biggest mistake I've made all year. Pros: Tank weight low so bike feels light That's it Cons: Constant motor oil leak Low power Uncomfortable riding Heat from motor burns the ankles even through pants and boots Way to expensive Small gas tank Under seat gas tank Legs cramp mid controls to short even for a 5'11 person Cheap riding seat Expensive parts Handle bars controls are the worse I average 130 miles per full tank. Switching between riding modes really takes a toll on mpg. Road mode for street, rain mode on dirt roads, sport mode for freeways.

That isn't a sporster or a nightster, i ride a 2007 Nightster 1200, they arent nothing like the sportsters. They are barely a Harley.

15k for that? HDMC is doing everything they can to tank the company. I wouldn't give 5k for it. Actually I don't want either. I'll stick to old harleys