Which Is The BEST Wildlife Camera? | Canon R6 Mark II vs R7 | What About The R8?
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Күн бұрынGet ready for the ultimate "budget" wildlife camera showdown! We've field tested the Canon R6 Mark II and the Canon R7 to see which one reigns supreme when it comes to capturing breathtaking bird photos and videos. Which one would you chose?
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Face Off
0:20 R6 Mark II The Good & The Bad
5:38 R7 The Good & The Bad
10:04 Which One To Chose
11:20 What About The R8
12:57 Photos of the Week!
@joanhuggett5164 Жыл бұрын
Another beautiful and entertaining Bird Photography Show. We always look forward to it. Thank you Jan and Glenn, you are totally awesome.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ammadoux Жыл бұрын
fabulous episode as ever, love your discussion and the shots you picked. thanks a million Jan and Glenn.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@heidiwegener7614 Жыл бұрын
Your mastery, your passion and your good sens of humour make this a great show
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@georgemccormick1247 Жыл бұрын
Great show again, thanks guys.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Great to hear you enjoyed it
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Cheers George!
@Chris_Wolfgram Жыл бұрын
Wow ! This video was pertinent on SO many levels for me 🙂 I owned the R5 for a year, but after buying the R7, I loved it so much, I sold my R5 and bought a second R7 for my backup. So yes, for me, reach was everything ! Oh, and my favorite lens for my R7's, is my RF 800 F11 👍 1280mm all day long ! Jan, I'm SO anxious to see you do a full vid on this combo. I know how well it has worked for me, so I'm sure your results are going to be even better 🙂 The Allen's Hummer is awesome, AND it was my buddy who shot it 👍 And that final shot of the Blue Grosbeak, Fantastic ! What are the odds, I just got some really great shots of a BG myself only a few days ago. Still trying to decide on some shots to send you guys.... But your viewers shoot some crazy good stuff ! Stiff competition for sure 🙂 Thanks for the awesome video guys.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing !
@Duade Жыл бұрын
Great video gents, both cameras have their place, I agree would have been amazing with say the Fuji X-H2S stacked sensor. Cheers, Duade
@berndkaiser4479 Жыл бұрын
It's so much fun and educational to listen to you both. I'm keen to see the next episode. Greetings from Munich 😉
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@speecher1959 9 ай бұрын
Since the R7 is my first experience with a control wheel and joystick, I have no complaints about its position and am very glad that they're there!
@Joya5545 Жыл бұрын
Good show, Jan and Glenn. I have the R5 and the R7 and I love the R7. I’ve had 3 friends switch to the R7 since I’ve had it. We are all birders and wildlife photographers and the reach that I get with the RF 100-500 and the RF 800 on the R7 can be really good and very portable. Today I was out after osprey, as usual it dove at a distance, but extra reach with the crop on the R7 really helped pull it in.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Thats great that its working well for you. Keep on shootin!
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Yes, for walk around combos the R7 is unbeaten in it's reach
@hainanbob6144 4 ай бұрын
Loved this video, I am dithering about the R7, 18-150 and 100-400. You helped a lot. Thanks guys.
@Hummingbirder1 Жыл бұрын
12:19 - 12:57 You and me both, Glenn. 100% correct!
@dr_squirrel Жыл бұрын
I bought the R7 as a second camera to my R5 and, well, It’s become my first camera for wildlife now. I love the reach and the the body layout. But I agree with Glenn, I would rather have spent a little more to see that dreadful rolling shutter improved and a slightly better lowlight performance. Still it‘s an amazing cam
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Maybe the R7II will be the real deal
@angelogarciajr5356 Жыл бұрын
Do you think it is possible to fix the rolling shutter some with a firmware update or do have to always live with it?
@andrewkeir2282 Жыл бұрын
I have an R7, and the rolling shutter does urk me, so I shoot mostly in First Curtain mechanical. Watching the video, I love the high rear wheel, I was considering the R6.2, but I think the R7 is for me. I need some advice, my wife has my old 90D with a Tamron 18-400 , The loves the flexibilty and weight of the lens, but has ZERO interest in swapping lenses in the field. I dont think much of the lens for wildlife,. Options are, another lens, any ideas? upgrade to a R7 or R10 with the Tamron. She was not interested in the RF100-400 because she wants the wide angle. Do guys have any reccomendations?
@angelogarciajr5356 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewkeir2282 I use the RF 100-500 all the time on the R7 for birds and wildlife. The 100-400 is a good choice with the converter to save a few dollars. I keep the 24-105 that came with my R6 on it and they both cover everything I shoot. I also put my RF16mm f2.8 on the R6 for astrophotography. Thats just me.
@dr_squirrel Жыл бұрын
@@angelogarciajr5356 I don‘t think you can fix it via firmware and even if, I think Canon would not fix it as it is a way to lead customers to higher end models.
@clairehachey2189 Жыл бұрын
As of January 2023, I've been using the Canon R7 with my Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary. At times, the lens will not focus properly, but this does not happen often. When it does, I simply turn the camera off and then back on, and everything works well afterwards. A few days ago, I read where someone had updated the lens firmware and that brought on many problems, hence I won't bother doing that. I've tried Electronic 1st shutter curtain but switched back to mechanical shutter as my go to option. I must say I like the camera-lens combo very much and am amazed at the quality of the photos I've taken, including many of Cooper's hawks and the elusive brown creeper. On a side note, I was out up to 3 times per week all winter doing bird photography in Montreal. Canada, and I must say the camera battery held up real well in the cold. I was very impressed! Cheers and thanks for another amazing video guys :)
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
@OhhhBugger Жыл бұрын
I used to have the R5, and sold it after I got my R7. May sound crazy to some, but I haven't found a ton of downsides for the "reach". It doesn't do as well with low light, but I accept it. I also gave up my much more expensive 500mm mkii for the 100-500mm. The stabilizer is so good, I just don't feel like I need to carry around so much gear. Personal tastes. F4 is great and everything, but how often do we actually shoot wildlife at F4? Very rarely for me.
@rafam8359 Жыл бұрын
FF quality is the most important thing for me that why I use m6mk2 for birding😅
@sswildlifevideos Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feature! That actually is in the Australian Garden section of a park here in California, hence the familiar plant!
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Great shot!
@MatthewRaifman Жыл бұрын
Congrats buddy!
@derekmidgley Жыл бұрын
My thumb likes where that round wheel is on the R7 and I love the resolution. It's not a perfect camera by a long shot. But it's excellent for the price and actually seems to spend more time in my hands lately than my R5.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! It’s definitely a great camera. It really seems to depend on the situation you’re shooting as well as to how it will perform
@sswildlifevideos Жыл бұрын
Same here! Great with 100-500. R6 Mark ii would never give me enough with that lens.
@MrTmiket0007 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing another wonderful video like always, I really enjoy my R7 and I don't need another camera for wildlife photography but I am looking forward to get the Nikon Z8 🐦👍🤗
@marknoll8052 Жыл бұрын
To me that last photo looks like it was rotated 90 degrees and the branch was originally vertical. Great video per usual!
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the show!
@christophercarlimages9003 Жыл бұрын
Entertaining and informative as always! I agree with Glenn on the R7 rolling shutter. It limits the benefit of the electronic shutter, but then again the mechanical is still 15 fps which is usually enough. Still my main thought is the same as I had with the 7D which is, its an excellent camera in optimal lighting, but it lacks in IQ when the light is even slightly less than optimal. It is still a great value overall though.
@alansach8437 8 ай бұрын
The nature of the beast of APS-C. I don't find rolling shutter as big a deal as folks on KZfaq make it out to be. One or two warped shots here and there amongst dozens that are fine. I have been shooting a lot of flying birds and getting amazing stuff with electronic shutter (though I am using H, 15fps, not H+, 30fps). Detail is unbelievable! More shots are missed due to the quirky af (some shots soft even though the focus point is squarely on the eye) than rolling shutter.
@mvp_kryptonite Жыл бұрын
Good suggestion the R7 should have been an R9 but Canon sold the R7 on name alone really. Would love the R7 to be a true successor to the 7D line as a body with all the wheels/grip etc.
@Mariner1460 Жыл бұрын
I am fortunate to have both and can say each performs so well that I think it does come down to reach (both long and short). I actually prefer the R7 ergonomics, but do wish it had the quieter shutter and battery grip option of the R6ii. The biggest issue, as you guys pointed out, is getting confused when I switch back and forth. I don’t shoot wildlife, but the R7 is outstanding in my most challenging shoots, event photography in large poorly lit churches. Love the images I’m getting with both the 70-200 f/2.8 and 400 f/2.8. Now, when I need to go wide that crop factor is a problem. Enter the R6ii . . .
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have found a great combo for what you need.
@cesarm8811 Жыл бұрын
As hobbyist photographer and Nikon Z50 (with the kit lenses). I mainly shoot while traveling, family events and general photography. I like to start shooting wildlife and I have used my Z50 with the 50-250mm to shoot some wildlife, but the lack of AF and no ibis in the camera has made it a bit difficult. So I have thought of changing brands, but struggle with the cost of changing. So I may wait a bit longer to see if Nikon introduces a D500 mirrorless replacement with IBIS and lot better AF. Great comparison on the R6II and the R7.
@garrywatters1140 Жыл бұрын
Bought the R6 when it first came out and loved it. Then two years later I bought the R5. If I want to crop then I go to the 1.6 crop using my 800 f11. This suits me fine and don't see the need for a crop sensor camera. To add to the fun I also have the 1.4 RF converter.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Nice set up!
@WernerBirdNature Жыл бұрын
Hi Jan & Glenn, this was exactly my dilemma end of last summer, like a month before Jan was the first to drop the news the R6ii was coming .. I used to love the EF 100-400Lii on my 70D, and of course the R6 which replaced my 70D in 2021 was miles better in nearly all corners .. yet it really made the 100-400 feel waay too short. And EF extenders came with a compromise. So I was torn between upgrading my R6 to the R5, or to add the R7 to my R6. Your comparison confirms getting the R5 was the right choice for me 🙂 I do understand the president of Canonda, but I'd say the R7 is the true heir of the 7D, yet we'll need the R7ii to have a successor for the legendary 7Dii and hopefully by then the suggested segmenting will happen ;-) As usual, awesome #birdphotoshow images and to the point remarks !
@keeganflahive1604 Жыл бұрын
I have had my R5 and got the R7 about 6 months ago. I run the RF 100-500. I do tons of other photography so the R5 is best for that but man the R7 has been amazing for wildlife. R7 + 100-500mm combo is perfect.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Yes, it works well on that lens
@goofinOff235 7 ай бұрын
I have the same combo, and find that the camera is very slow to latch onto flying birds if at all. I have missed a lot of shots due to this issue. Am I doing something wrong?
@keeganflahive1604 7 ай бұрын
@@goofinOff235not sure it depends on how far the subjects are from you. Also depends on if there is a ton of background clutter. I found these two things can cause the lens to struggle finding the subject but that’s also why I used two autofocus buttons. One for spot and one for eye AF.
@AlphaZuluPhotography 11 ай бұрын
This video convinced me to order the R6mkii. I’ve been using my old 6Dmkii forever now so it’s going to be a nice upgrade. I miss the reach I used to have with a crop but ever since I went full frame APS-C looks mediocre. For me, image quality is king. I’ll buy longer lenses my 500mm f4 with 1.4x tc has worked for a long time now.
@rui7773 8 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👍 penso assim também !! FF é vida!
@lb7144 7 ай бұрын
With the R6MKII, if you adapt it to a Canon EF-S lens, the camera will automatically crop it. The R6MKII will revert to FF for adapted EF lenses. So you have the ability to use RF, EF, & EF-S lenses on this camera. I just got one and it doesn’t disappoint. I’ll never get rid of my 90D and 5DMKIV but the R62 will become my go to.
@b.g.4277 Жыл бұрын
Agree on the R7 sensor and body. I would rather pay a little more for something with a similar body, build to the R6II and faster censor readout. The shutter is much louder than the R5 and R6 and due to the poor sensor readout you will use it more often than on the other bodies.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s a great camera but some lost potential
@ForrestWest Жыл бұрын
I use the R7 daily and with FV mode I only need the front dial and rear wheel. I added a grip extender. I have tracking and eye af enabled on the front shutter button so I don't need an extra button for tracking or to enable the eye af. After shooting this way with the R7, the R6 felt like it had too many dials and buttons LOL. I love having the extra megapixels for cropping and I don't need 40 frames per second.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree...
@Nviaz 2 ай бұрын
@@ForrestWest hej mate what grip extender did you get?
@nahpungnome Жыл бұрын
Completely agree that the rolling shutter is horrible on the R7. I want to use it more, but I only turn it on when I have to. The second minor quibble, which CBG solved, is there's no OEM grip/extension. I bought the extension from CBG and it makes using the R7 so much better. I also didn't like the layout change from my 7Dii, but got used to it. The R7 completely blows the 7DII out of the water aside from build quality.
@kennethcheong4498 Жыл бұрын
I have both the R6ii and the R7, and I sold the R5. I think you guys did not give due consideration to the R6ii AF capabilities. I gave up on the R5 because the AF just could not get the bird fast enough. I've missed so many photo opportunities it was becoming frustrating using the R5. The R6ii is a huge step up in this respect because I can get the shot which I'd previously missed with the R5. Another birding friend also gave up on the higher MP R5 for the R3 and his backup is the R6ii. In terms of the MP count, through my month long use of the R6ii, I don't feel any major lost of resolution compared to the R5. I'm able to crop up to 66% quite easily and get good sharp shots. Bird photography in the South East Asian jungles isn't like putting up a branch and getting the birds to perch nicely on them. Babblers and especially wren-babblers are not attracted to open branches, so you won't get them on the 'ideal' perch as you like to postulate. Similarly trogons and broadbills won't sit nicely on open branches. I do appreciate PS's 'remove' tool in this respect, but most of the time we have to shoot them in-situ. I think you guys should be more 'open' to alternative bird photography, not every bird will sit nicely for a portrait.
@rui7773 8 ай бұрын
Obrigado pelo seu comentário me ajudou a decidir R62 vs R5 ! 👍🇧🇷 Você acha que o R62 se iguala a R7 no quesito corte com esses 66%?
@siljuholtet Жыл бұрын
R7 and 100-500 wich is VERY sharp are the best combination i have had. R7 has the digital zoom for film and 4K crop( fantastic video quality) and are super versatile with its near focus at 1m.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy your kit!
@rui7773 8 ай бұрын
If you want to go from the 24MP of an R62, for example, do the following, convert the Raw file in Photoshop to tiff without any editing, use this tiff in Topaz All and convert to 45mp in the Noise 0 Blur 17 setting, resolution 8,192 x 5,461, you will have a file equivalent to R5 so you can cut without significant loss of resolution! 24 MP to 45 MP!
@kevins8575 Жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful that I was able to get the R5 and pair it with the Rf100-500. Even looking at the new offerings from Canon and Nikon's Z8, the R5 is perfect for me.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
It's a great camera
@kernzilla Ай бұрын
R7 is def a capable little camera in the right situ,, but overall I hard a hard time loving it. button layout horrible, and not really usable after iso4000 or so, which is a lot to get used to after shooting R5/R62. love the format of this vid Jan, keep up the great work sir 👌
@vinzpascua Жыл бұрын
13:26 Thanks for featuring my Southern Silvery Kingfisher photo in the show Jan and Glenn!!! Love the content you guys make and I’ll definitely keep the feedback in mind to become a better wildlife photographer!🫶
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
It's a great photo!
@adinew8920 Жыл бұрын
Thanks....
@satishbamal8447 Жыл бұрын
In camera world, we all have to make comprises/trade offs so totally depends on one's need and willingness to give up on a thing or two (if you want best image quality with softer background go for full frame but need to buy heavy lenses for reach, or get apsc and have light set up but loose on depth of field)
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Yep
@Ahmedpakido 4 ай бұрын
What you think if I combine tamron 150-600mm g2 canon with r8 or r7 do you think this is the best combo for wildlife?
@yavuzeryavuz7511 7 ай бұрын
R7 + R6 mark2 both are great combination. I have RF 400 2.8 both tc's (1.4x and 2x) works wonderful.There are a lot of sutiations that R7's crop factor becomes a problem.Than using R6 mark2 in that situations would be a nice option. With r6 mark 2 RF 400 2.8 becomes a real 400 mm monster.. with 2x Tc as a 800 5.6 lens even r6 mark 2 can capture great captures and witheasier framing.. So ..R7 plus R6 mark 2 combination makes all things better.
@rreichar1 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I think the choice between the R6ii and the R7 really comes down to personal preference. I shot with an R6 for 2 years after coming from Micro Four Thirds. I used several lenses with my favorite being the RF 100-500mm. I was excited when the R7 came out and pre-ordered the kit. I got mine the day after it started shipping. I used it for 6 months and while I got some great shots with it I was really never happy with it. But I didn’t want to go back to the short reach of the R6. I was very annoyed with Canon’s decision to skimp on some the specs of the R7 to meet a low price point. Since I don’t believe they will produce a crop sensor body with better specs anytime soon. So I sold all of my Canon gear and went with an OM-1 with the 300mm F4 Pro lens. I also have the PL 100-400 zoom and both TCs. I am happy with the choice after 4 months. The OM-1 feels much better to me than the R7. I have never even thought about the buffer because I have never noticed any issues with it. The AF works well in poor light. My R7 got noticeably worse as the light fades. We’ll see where things are when the R5ii comes out in the future. I do miss the RF 100-500. I do know several local birders using the R7 and loving it. It was an upgrade for them. For me it felt like and upgrade in reach but a downgrade in everything else.
@Wszyc Жыл бұрын
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Not an easy choice until we get really high mpix FF
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@curtisbme Жыл бұрын
@1:20 "So anyway, I started blasting.."
@tallAldiProduction Жыл бұрын
I was also concerned about the small buffer on the R7 but I never run into any problems with that. I shoot with CRAW as it is recommended by canon and can shoot much longer than on my 7DMkII before the buffer fills up. I lso use fast SD Cards. The only time I really noticed the full buffer was while focusstacking, after taking too much stacks back to back.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Glad its working well for you!
@Tony-ow3if 9 ай бұрын
Thanks..valuable comment. And what is the buffer like on the r7 when shooting JPEG?
@rababstan 2 ай бұрын
I am really very confused in these cameras... should i go for R7 for more MP and R6 ii .... just hobby bird photography and family/ friends portrait photography.. can you please advice me
@jhenry248 Жыл бұрын
Have both R7 and R6MK2 button layout not a big deal. Auto technician for over 15 years repairing various auto makes and models so adapting to changes and layout is second nature for me. I like my RF800 on my R6MK2 more than it on the R7. But I prefer the 150-600 and my 100-400 on my R7.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing whats working for you!
@davidlupke8018 10 ай бұрын
There was a huge leap from the Canon 7D to the 7D Mk II. Many wildlife professionals jumped from the much more expensive 1D series when the 7D Mk II came out. I wonder whether the eventual R7 Mk II will be a similar leap in quality and features. Certainly, the R6 to R6 Mk II was a huge jump.
@jurgenwittmann2905 8 ай бұрын
The question is: Can I wait for an R7 II or will I buy an R6 II before? Coming form 7dII an 5dIII. I need lowlight quality for rock concerts too.
@Hodenkat Жыл бұрын
I'm still confused as to why Canon has a different button and dial layout for every body. I used to be a Nikon fan for their ergonomics and consistent layout from one model to another. Now that I've moved to Canon, I'm worried about switching back and forth between two Canon bodies and having switch gears in my brain as to the layout. I wish I had R5 money in my future but it's not going to happen. The R6 mkII could be a possibility though. Thanks for the comparison!
@zegzbrutal Жыл бұрын
Canon is still looking ways to innovate their button layout. The video-stills switch is well received so Canon decided to implement on all cameras after R7. On the other hand, the wheel-joystick is somewhat controversial, so Canon decided to go back to the traditional joystick.
@giovannifabiani5840 Жыл бұрын
I am in Namibia with my R6 and Rf 100-500 . Servo Af with Animal tracking works perfectly with birds and some small animal , but not at all with elephants hyppos and many other . With Zebras , it focus on ears ! Is it normal ??? Thanks
@andrewbristoe1833 Жыл бұрын
Sig 2x with 150 600 sig in good light for still objects dreamy reach low light or fast take it of love lens companies to get on the Nikon tele switch on long lenses fantastic idea !
@FeedScrn 5 ай бұрын
Love Canon cameras.... Still looking for Nightvision and Infrared settings... Still hoping.
@fy7589 24 күн бұрын
IF R7 was a 2500 dollars camera with a stacked sensor and 40FPS burst speed + no rolling shutter. It'd be the ideal camera but still I can't complain at 1500 dollars price point. I own the R7 and I named it The Ferrari because it's still a beast!
@glenpearson8277 Жыл бұрын
Hi guys, I have both the R7 and the R6mkii. I love the back grounds (bokeh) I can get the with R6mkii. A question for you both where does something like topaz gigapixel fit into the digital workflow to give you more megapixels for cropping an R6mkii photo, when you need a heavy crop? Or is this tech crate too many artefacts.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
It's something I use when I have to it does usually a good job, but I would not want to apply it all the time.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
I think it can help. But ultimately I still prefer to get more pixels on the subject in the field. Maybe down the road though. Who knows with AI ??
@glenpearson8277 Жыл бұрын
So for someone who has an R7 and an R6mkii should I sell both and get an R5 or stick with the two of them?
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
@@glenpearson8277 it really depends what you want and how you shoot. Do you feel like you're lacking something?
@glenpearson8277 Жыл бұрын
@@jan_wegener good question, i guess i like the R7 for the extra reach the 800 F11 on the R7 is a beast and the R6mkii gives me the benefits of the full frame when i don't want the reach. So i guess what i have is a good fit for me right now. Thank you
@KenToney Жыл бұрын
A1 😎
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Hehe
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Still the king in many ways
@blakeparry1983 Жыл бұрын
i would have paid more for a better R7 same body as R6, but the smaller sensor (some improvements in rolling shutter and ISO performance would have been nice), and ability to take a vertical grip. Instead selling the R7 off
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Sounds about right...
@nitinbhide5964 Жыл бұрын
Very Nice 👌🌹👍
@isayamatori9144 Жыл бұрын
Z9 of course
@DilipRanjith Жыл бұрын
Hello both .. How does the focus of r5 stand up compared to r6 mk2?
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Good, but not as good imo
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Ya I think R6II is even a bit better
@DilipRanjith Жыл бұрын
Ok. I am debating upgrading from original r6. R5 was top candidate. If the difference is not much maybe worth the upgrade I guess
@alinskateful 6 ай бұрын
Is it true though that the R7 AF is not that good as the one on R6 and R6 Mark II when comes to BIF shoots? I'm asking because I want to upgrade from my 80D and on forums and real life scenarios reviews, the keeper rate difference between R7 and R6/R6 Mark II was pretty big, 20% or so
@jan_wegener 6 ай бұрын
I’d say that’s the case for me too
@bensaunders616 Жыл бұрын
As a long-time Canon shooter, I have to agree that their current penchant for changing dial, button, and switch positions with each new camera release is frustrating. I understand that some changes may save manufacturing costs, but consistent and stable ergonomics have been a hallmark for Canon for decades. Constantly switching controls around makes it difficult for customers with multiple camera body models.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
True!
@vikashsoni8230 8 ай бұрын
I've done wildlife photography in point and shoot in my teenage and then I have upgraded to Nikon DSLR now now now I i think I should go for an entry level mirroless. I am looking for a camera which can be used for bird and other wildlife photography and cam also be used nicely for travel photography too so I'm thinking about R7 so is it a good idea or we have better option available but in this range
@jan_wegener 8 ай бұрын
In your case I would look at R7 (crop camera) or R8 for the same price (full frame). R8 has the better AF, but much less reach for wildlife
@vikashsoni8230 8 ай бұрын
@@jan_wegenerthanks 🙏🏻
@angelogarciajr5356 Жыл бұрын
I have an R6 and an R7 and decided I did not want to wear them out shooting sports, so I went back to my 5D3 with my 100-400. What a dinosaur lol Dont get me wrong, the 5D3 set up takes great sharp photos but the mirrorless just feels miles ahead lol The mirrorless spoils me.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@johnflangsenkamp928 Жыл бұрын
I do have the 5D3 which is a very good camera. I am getting up there in age, so I am looking at the R7 for its weight and price. I am intrigued with the APS-C format. I have read a lot of good things about the camera. I have a good lineup of lenses I will keep and use with the adapter. Deciding to keep the 5D3 for a backup or sell it.I love the video by the way.
@angelogarciajr5356 Жыл бұрын
@@johnflangsenkamp928 Except for the distortion of images the R7 can produce, it is a great camera. I still use my 5D3 a lot. Best to keep it. They wont offer you much for it.
@colintraveller Жыл бұрын
TBH ...Another channel i watch uses an R3 for BP/WP . Tbh his images are top drawer . The number of MP.....Shouldn't even be an issue . It's how you use the camera and having good glass . Same applies to any tool . And practice makes perfect .
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Ya the R3 isnt the one for me....to each their own!
@TomReichner Жыл бұрын
I watched this to learn all about the R8, but it seems that you just gave it a very cursory overview that was really only about button layout. Do you have another video on your channel where you go really in depth about the R8? I mean like the way Tony & Chelsea go really into depth over each new model. I would love to see a video with that much nitty-gritty detail about all the fine points of the R8, but from your perspective as a fine art bird photographer.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
I talked about it a bit in my video yesterday and Glenn will share some more experiences soon.
@TomReichner Жыл бұрын
@@jan_wegener that is very thoughtful of you Jan. It amazes me that you have so much success with everything you have done, and yet somehow you still find time to interact with your audience members and are as helpful as you can be. I have great appreciation not only for the content you produce, but for your unselfishness and helpfulness.
@slaps719 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you guys have had the chance to play with r8 yet. I have been looking at it but i also been told to look at a used r6 and a r7.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Next episode 😀
@slaps719 Жыл бұрын
@@jan_wegener right on. Have a good day Jan.
@Kampani_2024 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about the r10? Would you combine it whith the rf100-400 or the sigma 150-600G2?
@rui7773 10 ай бұрын
R10 👎
@Kampani_2024 10 ай бұрын
@@rui7773 why???
@rui7773 10 ай бұрын
@@Kampani_2024, 1st image, I like the Canon colors but on the R10 it is very artificial, the focus is not those things, several photos of birds are out of focus, battery as everyone knows is bad, in general it looks like a toy camera, in the range for price I prefer Rp. I already tested the R10, 90D, SL3, R7 and the RP that I liked, wonderful images, I believe that the R8 surpasses even more! As for the R7 I didn't like it either, the mechanical shutter is horrible in focus (=90D), the R7 makes a lot of noise and the ISO above 3200 forgets it, the colors I think are a bit forced too. About to test the R8 with great possibilities to keep it!
@Kampani_2024 10 ай бұрын
@@rui7773 You like the rp but it does 4or5 fps compared to the r10 that does 15 with a buffer about 5sec. So in my opinion the rp is not a camera for wildlife photography. I prefer the r10 with a 300f4 is and a 1.4x iii
@rui7773 10 ай бұрын
@@Kampani_2024, As for that, I had the 90D 11fps without focus, so it's no use for a camera to be fast at 300fps and not have focus and image quality but it's true that the RP is slow, the difference is that the photo it takes will be in focus and real colors! I'm going to buy the R8 precisely because it's a fast camera (electronic 40 and 20fps) and with excellent focus! Many told me that full frame is silly compared to APSC but when I personally tested it I saw a huge difference in the quality of the images, now for video also the RP is a negation but if I had to choose (R10/RP) I would prefer the RP for the quality of image! The best photos I have of birds, oddly enough, were with the RP and at the same time I had the 90D which was much faster without comparison but with poor focus and image quality below the RP.
@ForrestWest Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't trade my R7 for an R62, or R5, or R3, Z8, Z9, or an A1.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Now that’s commitment 👍😉😀
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy the camera!
@mlai2546 Жыл бұрын
That's because you have never tried full frame 😅
@neilcole3406 Жыл бұрын
Said a Canon spokesperson!
@TheLukaszpg Жыл бұрын
@@mlai2546 that's because he has nothing to prove lol
@paulsmudger Жыл бұрын
Guys i really need some help as my head is spinning 😫. So i currently run a 5D MKIV and shot mainly portrait and landscapes. I am looking at getting into wildlife as i find it highly interesting. Question is do i by a 2nd camera more suited to wildlife if so which (i dont have unlimited budget) or just invest in some very good glass for my MKIV? All advice appreciated guys i love the photography community.
@paulsmudger Жыл бұрын
Also, options don't need to be only mirrorless. I'd happily consider older models if suitable.
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
The 5 D will work fine if you just want to see if wildlife is for you. But something like an R5 is a whole other level
@paulsmudger Жыл бұрын
@Jan Wegener Thank you for taking the time to reply Jan. Can you recommend a minimum focal length I should be aiming for to get started? Best kit I currently have is the 70-200mm f2.8 is usm iii and a 2x converter so 400mm f5.6. I am aware this is probably very limited 😕
@juanignaciodeleze3437 Жыл бұрын
Om1
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
We need to try one for sure!
@neifo5259 Жыл бұрын
Ive just wemt from a r6 to a r7 to a r6mkii in the space of two weeks ,traded my older r6 for the r7 and sorry to say this ,i hated it, it felt all wrong and the overall quality just wasnt there for me, at least for me anyway so sold it privately and bought the r6 mkii ive only used it twice but so far i love it
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
R6 II is a fantastic tool
@rogersmith1643 Жыл бұрын
I have an R7 after switching from Sony that I used for sports for the past 5 years. I have used Sony A9, A9II and Canon R6 mk 1. The R7 is a very good camera that takes very nice photos, but using it for anything fast moving highlights the fact the rolling shutter is very bad. I was spoilt using the Sony A9 series and Canon have only just caught up with the AF for sports with the current generation AF in the R7. I would suggest this is due in part to the significant sensor speed advantage the stacked sensors in Sony have had for many years. The R6 mk 1 was nowhere near as accurate as the A9 for fast moving small court sports. In the end the R7 is brilliant bang for buck, but I do throw away half the shots as they are completely distorted beyond saving. Photographing static subjects is fine.
@alansach8437 8 ай бұрын
I don't get the complaints on rolling shutter. I have been shooting this camera for almost a year. While it has its issues (quirky af that SAYS it's in focus on the eye, when sometimes it isn't), rolling shutter hasn't been a major one. I have shot a lot of flying birds and action. I get a warped image here and there, but not enough to be a major issue or make me stop using electronic shutter (which I need around sensitive birds). Would I prefer it never happened? Of course. But it isn't the issue (for me) that some make it out to be. Of course I do avoid the 30fps setting. 15 is fine for me. That's still 5fps faster than my previous APS-C camera, the 7dii.
@Harry-tm2bt 5 ай бұрын
The r7 is so easy to use and is without doubt the best canon camera ever made. My opinion only.
@jameslarsen5106 Жыл бұрын
Do you know if your Prosets will work in Capture One?
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
I don’t think so
@billmartin1663 Жыл бұрын
I have my R7 for the reach. But . . . the first-curtain shutter is the first shutter I've seen that's so loud it frightens the birds. The electronic shutter readout is too slow -- not only distortion from rolling shutter, but variable focus. And the focus in/out can't be focus point shifting because, even at f/8 or f/11 (where it shouldn't make a difference) it ruins 2 out of 3 images. The R7 is almost purely a bird-on-a-stick or stationary bird camera. Very disappointing. But I keep it because 24MP isn't enough for bird photography. I will echo what so many have said . . . I would have gladly paid R5 prices for an R7 with R5 quality and features.
@W4ReLL Жыл бұрын
Nikon Z8 or Z9 😝
@gus.smedstad Ай бұрын
0:43 - one thing about bird photography is that sometimes they'll just decide to casually take a dump in flight while you're watching.
@trevor9934 Жыл бұрын
Having been a wildlife shooter for decades, and a very happy user of the 7D series, to me the R7 was never a true successor to the 7DII as a flagship pro APS-C camera and like you, feel it should have had its place as a different ID, leaving a space for a true top of the line APS-C unit. To me this camera was not a well-balanced unit. 1. The image capture system was bottlenecked - The sensor was too slow for 30FPS, resulting in shutter lag, it should have an a BSI/Stacked sensor, a bigger buffer and at least one CF-Express card - perhaps a type A with the ability to also use DS cards. Then it would have been an awesome unit - yes, more expensive but the right tool for the job. 2. The 32 MP sensor was not great dealing with lower light or higher ISO 3. No battery grip - both for energy capacity, but more so for the lack of balance with heavier lenses and lack of portrait controls. 4. I prefer that the controls across all my cameras are in the same layout, so moving the control wheel was not a positive for me. I have encountered far more people claiming issues with 3rd party lenses when using the R7 than any other camera. I put this down to a doctored focal system from the R3 but adapted to a far higher-density pixel sensor. BTW, Sigma put out a vide clearly stating that their lenses work with the R-series bodies, demonstrating that on the R6. I have had the same experience - no issues with the Sigma 150-600c or 60-600s lenses. I put this down to how the focus system is configured and it is reported to work better if the OIS on the lens is turned off and one use the IBIS instead. I agree with your conclusions about cropping, but on the suitability of output, much depends on what one is going to produce. For example the R3 is not really a wildlife camera per se, it's a sports camera optimized for fast transmission of modest-sized 23MP images to a client publication, and the likely use of such images on magazine-size documents, or digital output. Thus an R5 would not be so efficient. So, for similar purposes in a wildlife context, the R6 MkI and MkII have served me well - virtually all of my output is now showing on digital devices. Nice to see a BC photographer! I am a dual-citizen Canadian and Kiwi and loved living in BC. I still miss the macro mammals: orcas and other whales, bears, moose, mountain lions and wolves that I photographed when I lived there. Now resident in NZ, it's pretty much only birds now, and most of them are in the bush - and not the relatively sparse and open Aussie bush either!
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Trevor!
@ForrestWest Жыл бұрын
How is the R7 inferior to the R5 for shooting birds and wildlife, pre-capture and macro when it's putting more pixels on the subject and a larger subject in the frame? I understand the autofocus is a little more jumpy but for shooting birds and wildlife and bugs and blooms out in the field how is the R7 a camera for beginners and the R5 so much better? Weather sealing doesn't matter to me because I protect my gear and don't shoot in pouring rain. I wouldn't trade my R7 for an R5.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
To each their own. As you know I'm not a big fan of the R7...But glad you enjoy it!
@noPrinting Жыл бұрын
The R50 could be for beginners.. I was going to get the R50 as I believe it is better than the 7D markII. But it is too small for my hands..I went full frame.. R8. I have been getting usable images of small birds on the wing (SBOW)not (BIF) in the shade at 1/4000 of a second & ISO 100,000.. Oh JOY..
@rui7773 8 ай бұрын
Eu não trocaria porquê nunca compraria um R7 ! 😆
@Hummingbirder1 Жыл бұрын
05:33 Glenn... Now I'm gonna be THAT person ("Acktchually") I'd say that the Calliope and Costa's are the smallest Hummers in North America (8 cm). Rufous share the 9 cm bracket with Ruby-throated and Black-chinned... Sorry, with my screen name I just couldn't let that pass. Me being a bit jealous over that wonderful footage and photos probably inched me over the comment-edge...
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Hahha....Thanks for the correction!
@tom2659 5 ай бұрын
Same here. Couldn’t handle the R7 ergonomics. Too small. No rear wheel. Etc.
@terrysmith810 Жыл бұрын
I use the R5 and the R7, the R7 with 600 II has become my Bird camera. Using electronic shutter at 15fps and a custom handgrip makes it much easier to handle.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Glad you found a kit that works for you.
@jeremiahsrandomness1692 Жыл бұрын
Would you say that a canon R7 is an improvements of an old 5d Mark ii. Even in lowlight?
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
In basically every aspect I’d say
@jeremiahsrandomness1692 Жыл бұрын
@@jan_wegener thanks. One more question. Is it true that you lose a f-stop of light using a full frame lens on a crop body? For example if I put the canon 400mm 5.6l on the R7 would it turn into an F8?
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahsrandomness1692 it’s 5.6 but the background will look more like 640mm/8 on a full frame camera
@fritsscholtenhzn6268 3 ай бұрын
Hope is on the way ? CANON R7 mk 2
@DPG_photo 8 ай бұрын
So confused. as a landscape shooter (not birds) is the r6ii worth the $1500 more over the r7?
@jan_wegener 8 ай бұрын
It guess it depends how wide you want to shoot. You will need RF-s lenses for the R7 to go wide enough , which won't be compatible with full frame cams
@DPG_photo 8 ай бұрын
@@jan_wegenerwell I have an 10-22 efs and a 24-70ef. I believe the 10-22 can be used on the r6 with the adapter taking care of vignetting.
@alankefauver6187 Жыл бұрын
Glen...10D pshaw.. I started with a D60. LOL
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Oh nice....old school 🙂
@kevins8575 Жыл бұрын
I started with a EOS Rebel t4i. 3 frames per second for the first second, 1 fps after that.
@Vollpflock Жыл бұрын
Isn't the R8 actually the only camera that has a usable pre-burst? It's like unusable on the R6 MK2 with the limited buffer.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Good questions. We shall see!
@michaelgomez4314 Жыл бұрын
Nikon Z8 is the best in terms of specs, photo quality, no mech shutter, price and no cripple hammer. How about that.
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Jan will let us know his thoughts!
@jurgenwittmann2905 8 ай бұрын
Photography is just a hobby and I don't earn a single cent from my photos. The R5 is simply too expensive. I still take my photos with the 7d II and 5d III. I was hoping for the R7, but it has too many problems, e.g. no battery grip. Maybe I'll wait for an R7 II, otherwise I'll buy the R6 II.
@jan_wegener 8 ай бұрын
All the new mirrorless camera will feel like a big upgrade from your current cameras. So I think you can't really go wrong. The R6 II is an exceptional camera, you'd just lose a bit of reach, similar to the 5d III
@suryabiswas2391 Жыл бұрын
Great video... I have a question sir... I'm a wildlife photographer. I use Canon 7d mark ii over 4 year.. Now I want to shift to Mirrorless body... I love this Canon R3 body, but one issue, megapixel... So, Can I go for R5?? Or 24 megapixel (R3) is enough for wildlife photography??
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
For me I MUCH prefer the R5
@rui7773 8 ай бұрын
I saw a video here on KZfaq that helped me a lot. Convert the Raw file in Photoshop to tiff without any editing, use this tiff in Topaz All and convert to 45mp in the Noise 0 Blur 17 setting, resolution 8,192 x 5,461, you will have a file equivalent to R5 so you can cut without significant loss of resolution!
@andrewbristoe1833 Жыл бұрын
Some photos screaming for tighter crop the more more I see need a story or interesting background r we to scared of mp definition loss ? Woodpecker yes get rid of the left part love the angles on the right side of picture balance maybe tricky
@georgewelch2366 11 ай бұрын
I own and love the R5/150-500. In my opinion, as a bird photography tool, the 100-500 needs the 1.4 TC coupled to it and works great doing so. My huge complaint is because of their stupid design you’re not able to use the wide end (100-300), which is a huge limitation in the field if something lands close.
@jan_wegener 11 ай бұрын
That sure is annoying!
@georgewelch2366 11 ай бұрын
@@jan_wegener How would you consider the build quality, Jan, vs R5 and R7. I know about the wheel and buttons being in a different spot.
@jan_wegener 11 ай бұрын
@@georgewelch2366 R5 is a bit better
@Kkkk-yz7dl Жыл бұрын
Between R7 and R wich better ??
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
R7 imo
@Kkkk-yz7dl Жыл бұрын
Thank u ❤
@Tegneaufreak 4 ай бұрын
The R7 is nice on paper only. In practice it is loud, bad AF, small buffer, silly layout. The 24MP of the R6 is just way more than you need. The whole MP argument is just insane.
@kennethlui2268 Жыл бұрын
R7 AF is not as good as R5. Low light is ok. I use R7 in good light and walk around. Bad rolling shutter when using electronic shutter mode for hummingbird and panning. Have to use mechanical shutter for hummingbird
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Yup...you nailed it
@soumakbindu2268 Жыл бұрын
Share your experience with z8
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
I have to use it first :D Can only do a review when you have tested it properly. But I will post an updated Wednesday
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Please...
@soumakbindu2268 Жыл бұрын
@@GlennBartley 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Tetra84 Жыл бұрын
What’s your recommendation for a 2nd body if you have an R5?
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Its a tough question. If money is no object then a second R5. But for me I still dont have a second mirrorless camera. Trying to make it to the R52 and then R5 will be backup.
@kevins8575 Жыл бұрын
R5 mk II
@TheCloudfoot72 Жыл бұрын
Should’ve compared the R8 and the R7. They are the same price
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Yes we will. R8 wasnt out when we filmed.
@efrkool Жыл бұрын
Question, I currently own the R5 (coming from the R6) and primary use it with the 100-500. When I pair my lens with the 1.4 extender I see the quality and sharpness drop a lot. This is understandable ofcourse. I am curious how an extender on the R5 stacks up against the native lens on an R7. Is this something someone has an opinion on?
@GlennBartley Жыл бұрын
Personally I never like to use TCs on zoom lenses.
@efrkool Жыл бұрын
@@r2hildur I understand, what I mean is comparing an extender to increase range vs using the crop of the R7. The lens by itself is not soft. I've used sharpen AI and sometimes it is usefull to save a picture when you just missed focus by a hair or on fast moving subjects, but in general I tend to find the result over sharpened and only use it very sparingly or only in specific regions of an image
@KevinNordstrom Жыл бұрын
iQ will be be better with the r7 with no TC, as there is no loss of light and AF than the R5 with the TC
@efrkool Жыл бұрын
@@KevinNordstrom Thanks! That's something I did not think about, makes sense Indeed
@kevins8575 Жыл бұрын
I sometimes use the 1.4x with the Rf100-500 on an R5 but have not noticed a drop in quality. If it's there, it doesn't seem to matter.
@rogeryoung3587 Жыл бұрын
If you just compare two things then you don't describe the winner as The BEST - it's only the _better._
@vitalyboyko104 7 ай бұрын
well, people should spend as little as possible of their precious time on image processing, as the latter could be time consuming, unless the latter is a primary source of their "unhealthy" income. Digital image processing, in most cases, translates into unhealthy sedentary lifestyle, also known as 'diabetes_typeII_lifestyle'. I hope that R6 Mark III will reduce rates of diabetes_typeII worldwide. Therefore, primary task for Canon, Sony, Nikon engineers is to minimize image processing, and the latter should be done on-fly.
@neilcole3406 Жыл бұрын
Sponsored by Canon?
@jan_wegener Жыл бұрын
If anything is sponsored we will tell you :)
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