Which motor is right for you? Outrunner vs Inrunner - Motor school with Holmes Hobbies part 1

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2 жыл бұрын

Join John Robert from Holmes Hobbies as we learn about the differences between an outrun and an inrunner motor. This is part 1 of a series.
Are inrunners and outrunner the same?
What makes these motors different?
Is an outrunner really better?
This videos is a 101 beginners course on the main differences in these to motor topologies. John breaks it down nice and easy so even a newb to sport can understand.
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@pythonboi5816 6 ай бұрын

Im gona have to watch this twice cus the first time I was busy staring at the cool RC cars

@WillB.6759 2 жыл бұрын

Fun video John. I just put the revolver classic 1950kv through it's paces on some hard lines today, it did an amazing job. I'll probably sell it an grab a puller pro it's the last I've yet to try lol. I'm keeping the standard revolver V3 it's a gem!!! Look forward to what y'all come up with next👊🤙🤙🤙

@RC_Ira 11 ай бұрын

Very nice video!💥💯👍

@thejeepinrealtor5742 2 жыл бұрын

Im gonna go with…..ah man this is so dang hard…….decisions decisions…….but….yeah, gonna have to go with both I think.

@beleg1437 2 жыл бұрын

Who knew scissors are actually time machines. - 10 years John.

@mikebird8290 2 жыл бұрын

THANKS VERY HELPFUL SIR🇬🇧🇺🇲🕊️✌🏼👍🏼

@zedorda1337 2 жыл бұрын

Heat sink options are also kind of limited on Outrunners.

@RTmadnesstoo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the Video. What are the advantages of Torque or Power? I wish you would address the Number of Poles also.

@jonlaird5082 2 жыл бұрын

I always ran inrunner motors and my go to motor is your crawlmaster expert 20t as I always had great luck with it and it just works well for me. 1 day I'll try an outrunner,lol. Just curious,what is that black rig behind you? It's on the first shelf rite behind the blue truck. I love the look of it.

@rkd350z 2 жыл бұрын

patiently waiting on Crawlmaster 2 so I can quiet down my revolver. Weather is warming up and would like to crawl at night, neighbors dont really enjoy the revolver noise lol

@HolmesHobbies 2 жыл бұрын

Just dropped some

@fatfreddiescat9952 2 жыл бұрын

Does this answer the age old question of “what motor to run with x or y weight” maybe not, but my burning question is. Did Holmes stumble into a barbershop, misses Holmes had enough of living with a lovable tramp or was there a “incident” with the strimmer while clearing the yard??

@sacrificialrubber779 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see you make aircraft motors…any plans???🤔🤔🤔

@jerryvolpini7987 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, I appreciate it. Looking forward to delving more deeply into these motors! 👍

@nathanjensen8796 2 жыл бұрын

2 questions: how many more amps do outrunners pull vs inrunners (I swear I keep puffing up packs on my Revolver I usually use on my inrunners) and are SENSORED outrunners practical in the rc crawler world? Thanks for more videos like this to clarify confusion! I think the crawler community would be somewhere else today if you hadn't decided to get into the motor and electronics industry your products are simply the best!

@JPGrc 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the good stuff. Some time ago I was wondering about the outrunner, what it is and what it is used for. And tell me how about their waterproofness?

@JustinDDavis 2 жыл бұрын

Outrunners are waterproof. They just don't like dirt or mud...grit can get in there much easier cause its open not closed off like an inrunner.

@BlackUnitAdventureSport Жыл бұрын

I love my Snubnose V2...

@hellofromsoutheastalaskarc7517 2 жыл бұрын

Hello from southeast alaska

@RCJesus420 2 жыл бұрын

You were sorely missed at BTC this weekend buddy!

@forrestcrabbe 2 жыл бұрын

🤘🍻🤘

@jolopop763 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry if this is a noob question but what is the difference of power vs torque density?

@Dozern90 Жыл бұрын

Any difference in noice tough? My revolver V3 makes a really distinct noice compared to my other innrunner stuff.

@MangoJim90 2 жыл бұрын

So, if outrunner is not sealed, is it still safe to operate it at least in rain conditions 🙂?) Thanks a lot 🙌💪🙏👍🌄

@twilliamrc4wd 2 жыл бұрын

what motor would be great for a 12lb SCX10 running between 8000 mah 3s 8000 mah 4S lipo

@TangoOne 2 жыл бұрын

Still rocking my Crawlmaster pro 13t. I have debated moving to brushless but If I have to give up ANY of the brushed feel I won't be happy. Question: how much more efficient (in regards to runtime) is a puller pro stubby compared to the standard puller pro, given a similar kv?

@mikellewis2346 Жыл бұрын

If u want the best in runner rite now that is about as close to a brushed motor as possible, then grab the 10shooter 2700kv motor with a mamba x....... it really feels like a brushed motor when set up is done rite. The regular pp have little more power output with haven larger magnetics I feel, but the super smooth and slow start up and crawl of the 10shooter is just worth the little loss of power. But will say it's not noticeable unless u run both the pp an 10shooter like I do in the same rig basically.

@calebwagner9222 2 жыл бұрын

So in general the HH revolver line will have more torque than the HH in runners? So does that also mean stronger drag break hold with the revolver line?

@stevebuchanan5773 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the outrunner is like having more leverage

@FredrikOlesen 19 күн бұрын

Witch inrunner Brushless motor Of yours Can i run 6S with??? I’ll Keep Eye On heat, But Witch motor..? 🙏🏽😃 Fan from Denmark.. (SCX10 PRO)

@RadRaf 2 жыл бұрын

WAIT a darn tootin' minute, who the heck is THIS guy? 😁😆 - 🧔‍♀👶

@nizarsakr6584 4 ай бұрын

اي نوع اوفر في استهلاك الطاقه ؟ اقصد عندما نقوم بنفس العمل ، أيهما اوفر في استهلاك الطاقه ؟ شكرا ، تقديم جيد .

@stingerranger4942 5 ай бұрын

I want to use one them for twin motor rc boat 22 inch boat and fast

@sacrificialrubber779 2 жыл бұрын

Cause I have at least 10 that are almost or are flying and probably another 10-15 in the rafters!🤣🤣(don’t tell my wife!!)😉🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂👍🏻

@pieterweerdhuizen4379 2 жыл бұрын

Is it a stupid idea to have a video on a more detailed tech level? I'm very curious about the deeper level tech of both motors...

@jerryvolpini7987 2 жыл бұрын

John has done plenty of 'technical' videos for the more experienced guys and, I think it's safe to say, he will continue to do so. While I have been into RC for over 25 years, I'm relatively new to crawlers (2 years) and appreciate this approach 👍 Besides, he said he will be delving more into this in a subsequent video(s) and its good to kick things off like this.

@pieterweerdhuizen4379 2 жыл бұрын

@@jerryvolpini7987 hi Jerry, thanks for your comment. I think the video is out now. I will go and watch is this evening. Thanks again. Cheers Pieter

@patrikmoller3643 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry for being a bit dumb but how does the drage brake work with sensorless brushless motors like these? I would really love to use a HH motor for my Phoenix but I don't want a car that starts rolling down the hills, especially if it's still on it's wheels

@HolmesHobbies 2 жыл бұрын

The next video will explain the biggest factor on this, the flux gap area of the motor. Determines potential for drag brake and torque

@patrikmoller3643 2 жыл бұрын

@@HolmesHobbies cool, looking forward to it, thanks for all the great explanations, much needed for beginners as well as thick old timers like me 😁

@indybama80 2 жыл бұрын

Holy crap, at a glance, i thought it was john schnieder lol. Wheres john rob? N wat have u done with him?

@chrismagallanes8858 Жыл бұрын

What about for a electric skateboard i see mostly outrunners

@662SSIPPI 2 жыл бұрын

I fly fpv I wonder if a 6s drone motor would run a 1/10 . There out runner I think? I have a couple spares

@HolmesHobbies 2 жыл бұрын

I would suggest a 35 or 36mm frame size, which will typically have a 4mm or 5mm shaft and require funky pinion. This is part of why I design my own crawler outrunners, so it accepts a normal pinion

@662SSIPPI 2 жыл бұрын

@@HolmesHobbies yea your right by the time I attach a pinion to the motor could have a hh out runner in the mail. You dont do 24th scale electronics do you?

@bcborn8398 Жыл бұрын

Is the revolver v3 waterproof?

@HolmesHobbies Жыл бұрын

revolvers are not waterproofed

@daijoubu4529 3 ай бұрын

Between a 300W inrunner 2435 3300kv and a 260W outrunner 2822 2600kv, which will have more torque?

@HolmesHobbies 3 ай бұрын

Not enough info. Those size numbers have no standards to compare with.

@daijoubu4529 3 ай бұрын

@@HolmesHobbies 2435 would be the Surpass Hobby red KK series 4 poles, the D2822 is a DYS/Flash Hobby motor 14 poles, right now I'm using a tiny DYS D2225 2000kv 12 poles motor, it has enough torque but not enough top speed, it's 20% slower than the stock 280 motor, trying to find the best motor to fit in a 280/370 footprint for trail/light crawl uses, unless I ditch idea of using safer 2S 18650 and go with 3S lipo, just not comfortable with my kid handling pouch cells lol

@Drunken_Hamster 5 ай бұрын

Now for something that isn't in the RC hobby yet: Axial flux motor.

@HolmesHobbies 5 ай бұрын

It's not a good topology for the motor sizes we use. We need long and small diameter motors, which is radial flux! If we could fit a 4 inch motor it would become more feasible.

@Drunken_Hamster 5 ай бұрын

@@HolmesHobbies Weeellll... A lot of outrunners, at least the ones used in race drones, are pretty flat comparatively. But that is _literally_ just a single example, so yeah.

@Drunken_Hamster 5 ай бұрын

@@HolmesHobbies Actually, now that I think about it, you could stack a bunch of axial flux stator+rotor sets to get a "long" motor. At least theoretically? Hmm...