Which NHL Team is the Best at Drafting Players?
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@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
I’m back! Been awhile and I missed you all! This video took FOREVER to make! So I hope ur all enjoyed! LINK TO THE EXCEL SHEET: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13dTX6XugDz_Hyq94bkty2we4LkOo3XiTTmJI8ynTYbs/edit?usp=sharing ( where all the work was calculated )
@memeguy885 10 ай бұрын
thank you for going through so much work (seriously all the drafts from 30 teams) teams just for our entertainment you are genuinely on of the best most hard working hockey youtubers. P.S i love your videos and please never stop making them.
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
@@memeguy885 Thank you so so much!! That means the world to me! I had sm fun researching this and hope you enjoyed! Thank you for the endless support!
@jonmendelson1104 10 ай бұрын
It would be interesting if you factored in draft position. Obviously this video factors in all 7 rounds (or more for some drafts) so there will be later picks but you'd expect a team that's consistently trading away their first round picks to have lower success rate than a team consistently picking at the top of the first round.
@chrisbee9643 3 ай бұрын
More interesting to me would have been to include how good the franchises pick late... For example the Wings in the 90s... Look where they got people like Fedorov, Larionov... Even Datsyuk was a very late round... Just like Zetterberg... And I dont think the Leafs Draft that good late in the draft... Its not my feeling the Leafs pick good. It was Hunter/Dubas who drafted good. Never before they did... Well maybe in the 60s and earlier... But that doesnt matter anymore... And I am a Leafs fan. xD
@TT-rt9vv 10 ай бұрын
I think this format of having played at least one game in the NHL massively skewed these stats. You can draft a lot of players and they play a handful of games but it doesn’t mean they’re any good .. would have liked to see it be at the very least over 100 games as the qualifier
@RobotMyers 10 ай бұрын
my thoughts exactly!
@willamshugo283 10 ай бұрын
Or even just a full season's worth
@jeremybrazier786 10 ай бұрын
If you are one of the poorer teams, you were going to have a larger roster turnover so more of your draft picks are going to get into games as opposed to better teams whose rosters pretty much set and doesn't change
@1avido1 10 ай бұрын
maybe something like 100 games played +1 500 games played +2 all star +2 best score per player 5pts
@TheJimmyStDenisShow 10 ай бұрын
If we’re talking what team is best at drafting diamonds in the rough then it’s Detroit
@Akorvia 10 ай бұрын
I’d argue its Tampa, other then Hedman and stamkos most of there top guys have been 2nd-6th rounders
@Xstrangis 10 ай бұрын
Steve Yzerman
@boltshockey9186 10 ай бұрын
Tampa / Steve Yzerman***
@Nichaelas 10 ай бұрын
@@Akorvia Datsyuk was drafted 6th round 171st overall and was named one of the 100 greatest players of all time. And Zetterberg 7th round 210th overall and is number 5 in franchise history in points. And let's not forget Sergei Fedorov 4th round pick. That's 3 players in the top 10 in the franchise at round 4 or later in the draft. Konstantinov was another clear steal at 221st 11th round before his career got cut short. Holmstrom and Helm are a couple of more players that were players that definitely outperformed what they were projected to be (though not franchise like some of the others).
@Maubreyo 10 ай бұрын
@@NichaelasHelm helping my Avs win that cup puts him as a franchise player for me😅he's a beast!!
@Dexter037S4 10 ай бұрын
The Sens could easily take that top spot sooner or later too, I'm surprised we were P2 considering our terrible luck, but even our late round picks have made the big show usually.
@estellegrignon 10 ай бұрын
I'd be really curious to see a similar list, but with the average career point share instead of going by players who made the NHL. This would give more weight to great players and would likely boost Detroit's rankings given the amount of superstars they drafted themselves
@ProsperousMonkey 10 ай бұрын
I agree would love to see this with points instead of games
@ProsperousMonkey 10 ай бұрын
still pretty interesting to see nonetheless
@SakicFan Ай бұрын
For those who are wondering, Since he never stated it in the video, 9 Players drafted by Ottawa have played in over 1,000 games, But their leader is NOT Daniel Alfredsson, It's actually Marian Hossa, Who played in 1,309 Games.
@TheBoyer19 10 ай бұрын
I would like to see you come back to this concept but have 100 games played as the minimum great video by the way :)
@Rometiklan 10 ай бұрын
Without watching your vid, I really liked Detroit's drafting. That 1989 draft was nuts and helped them lay the foundation for their dynasty in the 90s....Fedorov, Lidstrom, Konstantinov. THanks for posting!
@Itsthemoof 10 ай бұрын
LOL
@johnsweet96 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I don't know about your algorithm, when I saw the video title I figured Detroit was #1...and I hate Detroit
@hockeyxchange3 10 ай бұрын
It’s impressive to think that the Columbus Blue Jackets has the highest ratio, despite being a newer franchise, their a team that are arguably the least successful in the playoffs and yet have the highest ratio of any other team! Hopefully they do turn it around soon!
@Benjarmon 10 ай бұрын
this video is really solid. So glad IDGT is back
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
WWWWW Thank you Benjamin
@patrickkelley6335 10 ай бұрын
Amazing video! Great criteria and a fun video !!
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much bud!!
@CanadaBricks 10 ай бұрын
I think the fact that the draft technically really didn’t exist until the mid 60’s doesn’t help the Original 6 teams out much either
@kroxax8966 10 ай бұрын
The habs were too busy buying the whole quebec junior league for belliveau hahaha
@Frosty_47 10 ай бұрын
Really loved the part for the sens
@oilersbluejayscanadaitaly 10 ай бұрын
Lol I didn't appreciate that little dig at my Oilers bro🤣 Great video tho:)
@jonahsemenchuk184 10 ай бұрын
In the 70s and 80s scouting was so bad. Columbus could have 100 guys who have played only a couple nhl games i dont think this is the most accurate way of deciding the best drafters. Thank you idgt for entertaining me.
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
Of course bud! Thanks for watching! Old scouting definitely played a factor. You could argue that Habs GM Sam Pollock is a huge reason why MTL is so high with how he finessed the system in the late 60s early 70s.
@aralornwolf3140 10 ай бұрын
I would say a "hit" would be a player who played for an entire season in the NHL. I wonder how the numbers would change with they exclusion criteria...
@YngPzy77 9 ай бұрын
Great work. Good premise, even if not your own. Good use of stock footage. Keep up the good work. I would like to see players points per game average and goals per game average vs league goals per game average. Is Gretzky still the GOAT? At least the perception is that the Oilers of the 80s won every game 8-6.
@wesmccauley5622 9 ай бұрын
This is the best video ever you’re the greatest KZfaqr ever💪💪💪
@jonahsemenchuk184 10 ай бұрын
Mason Mactavish was actually a pick in the 21 draft. Great video i appreciate all your work.
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
Go figure, I take a month to make this and I still get somethin wrong 💀
@lpgodin2 10 ай бұрын
I would have believe that "younger" teams would have a better record as the draft is now only 7 rounds compared to 12-15 in the past, therefore less players that can "miss"... combined with that fact that there is more teams now, so more spots for players... It will be interesting to see how Vegas and Seattle rank up in a few years...
@wildwilliamplayz6295 11 күн бұрын
I thought the stars would be a lt higher because of how many of the north stars picks hit. Also just wanted to mention that as a wild fan I fell obligated to mention that one of the 1000+ game players picked is Cal Clutterbuck of all players.
@wildwilliamplayz6295 11 күн бұрын
Also the wild have drafted 6 1000+ games played players those being: Marian Gaborik, Mikko Koivu, Nick Schultz, Cal Clutterbu k, Brent Burns, And Nick Leddy
@easymac24 7 ай бұрын
Im pretty surprised by this list Columbus so high is shocking, also thought the kings would be higher and red wings...
@alfiesmullet1311 10 ай бұрын
Would love to see a list like but for players drafted 4th round or lower, the one for players in the top 3 rounds
@mollyamanda7309 10 ай бұрын
Would love to see the Sens get a breakdown too. Thought we were going 3,1,2, then got no 2... username checks out 😂
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
Spoke briefly about how they were only .2 behind the Jackets with a 52.6% avg. What I didnt mention was that Alfreddson is their GP leader XD. Hope u enjoyed!
@rickyhazel1030 10 ай бұрын
LA does well deep into drafts especially since Mark Yanetti was hired in 07' to exemplify that statement LA"s 4th round picks since Yanetti was hired have played over 2000 games combined with 5 over 100gp [A,Martinez(763), D.King(365), L.Vey(138), M.Anderson(194) and A.Wagner(178) with H.Fasching 13 games shy of 100] infact its easier to name the guys who haven't played at least 2 NHL games [Steven Johnson, Marcus Phillips, and likely Juho Markanen and Aiden Dudas (whom I still believe in)] drafted by Yanetti and co., and LA has been no slouch in the 7th rnd over 1000gp from Nic Dowd,Jordan Nolan and a trio of guys impressively drafted in consecutive drafts in Dominick Kubalik(13'),Jacob Middlton(14'), and Matt Roy(15') whom I think is the most underrated player in hockey and hey LA has 3 7th rounders in their prospect pool who have good potential to make the NHL in Andre Lee, Kaleb Lawrence, and Aatu Jamsen
@frankdeboer1347 10 ай бұрын
If you need 1 game for football, then you should need 7 or perhaps 10 for hockey as their season includes so many more games. Also you might rank 1000 game players or perhaps 500 game players as a more significant factor in your ratings. I think that would change your rankings significantly and for the better. Also you might factor the number of 500/1000 game players as a percentage of players drafted 20 years ago or more to factor in the number of drafted players that could've played that many games. Thanks for your effort.
@Yamato9729 10 ай бұрын
How did the analytics for players drafted more than once work? The 2nd team? What about players that were drafted twice by the same team too? Great video, perfect to watch while eating 👍
@acemoneymaker8242 10 ай бұрын
Flames are very good at draftig in the later rounds. Wether or not they fumble that very good player is a different story
@bmantheawsome77 10 ай бұрын
No way the wings are last they have always drafted well
@i_love_sausage7187 10 ай бұрын
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@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
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@tylerfrisbie222 10 ай бұрын
Me: "Detroit gotta be in the top 5 or number 1" *dead last* "oh"
@Scrotom 10 ай бұрын
He didn't adjust for a closer look-back period. Wings had low draft picks for decades and have simple had many more drafts in their longer existence than other teams.
@Rometiklan 10 ай бұрын
Same. I thought Detroit would have been in the top 5.
@seancccccccc 10 ай бұрын
Hard to take a spot from future Hall of Fame players no doubt
@LordBitememan 10 ай бұрын
Basically the only team that took the draft seriously before the late 70s was Montreal. The Seals literally used to just sell Montreal their draft picks and the Sabres even joked around once and drafted a fake player. So older teams get dragged down a bit for that decade or so where nobody cared about the draft.
@VibrateGirl101 10 ай бұрын
Okay king absolutely go OFF
@aggronnn 10 ай бұрын
Curious to see how Milbury compares to other isles GMs, it feels like they’ve drafted well since 08-09ish
@PENS20668 7 ай бұрын
You got me dead at the hurricanes
@idontgivetkachuk 7 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@julgercards 10 ай бұрын
Id say the ducks are the best at drafting defenseman over the last 15 years.
@893263007 10 ай бұрын
Wow this video was a lot of work
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
Took forever XD! Hope you enjoyed!
@silentnyrf3161 10 ай бұрын
Wait... Detroit is last!? I did not expect that
@zTeaTheCoffee 10 ай бұрын
I mean I'd personally argue that the Red Wings, which is at the bottom, is one of the best teams at drafting. Just think of the amount of legends they picked from outside the first two rounds: Osgood (3rd), Federov (4th), Lidstrom (3rd), Kozlov (3rd), Datsyuk (6th), Zetterberg (7th), Filppula (3rd), Konstantinov (11th), Holmstrom (10th). Name one other team that can consistently pick 1000+ GP players and all-time greats from low in the draft. I like the concept, but I think having 1+ GP isn't the best statistic, since that rates some nobody like Bernie McNeil the exact same as Wayne Gretzky
@magicwanddd 10 ай бұрын
Columbus and Ottawa are good at drafting because both those teams are based on procuring physically fit male talents to go to war (in a figurative sense due to the meaning of the teams' names) and go to war on the ice in a literal sense.
@Timhortinscup 10 ай бұрын
I think Detroit being last is why yzerman decided to go there? (Maybe)
@ariccua6101 10 ай бұрын
"... hitting on 69 nice players..." well played
@magicwanddd 10 ай бұрын
ROTFL 😮
@wildwilliamplayz6295 11 күн бұрын
Your MINNESOTA WILD doing that
@ShotBySlayed 10 ай бұрын
8:40 lmaoooo
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭
@NPIntended 10 ай бұрын
I got a Temu ad on Buhhs Video:( Has to watch the painful ad so buhh gets revenue
@Benjarmon 10 ай бұрын
not the temu
@rickyaz8640 10 ай бұрын
People way overrate picks after about #50. Maybe Vegas winning while basically punting the draft will wake up some analysts who advocate hoarding draft picks
@jeremybrazier786 10 ай бұрын
I think that 100 games should be the mark for being considered a hit. If you're one of the poorer teams, you're going to have a larger roster turnover so more of your pics are going to get into games. A good team has the rosters pretty much set and doesn't change very often.
@Stefan-rk6vl 10 ай бұрын
nice, you didnt even talk about the sens
@tjgrosshans4875 9 ай бұрын
I knew the red wings weren't great at drafting but that's even sadder knowing we are the worst
@cam2159 10 ай бұрын
In the first round it’s gotta be the leafs
@MuhammadZegras 10 ай бұрын
Before even watching my pick for the best in recent years is Dallas
@luminescent_dragon7147 9 ай бұрын
Put her there, brother! Also #CuntyHuntyOrBust iykyk
@jackieeeeee_ 9 ай бұрын
AINT THAT THE TRUTH
@jmac0608 10 ай бұрын
He’s baaaaaaaaaaaacccckkkk
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
YESSIR
@mmmfidel 10 ай бұрын
So we are skipping Ottawa completely and going from the devils to the blue jackets? No info att all?
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
I said what their draft avg was while also talking about CBJ
@mmmfidel 10 ай бұрын
@@idontgivetkachuk barely. But its your video and you did great work all the same. I suppose its alfredsson who has the most played games fot the sens?
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
@@mmmfidel correct
@CanadiansEH 10 ай бұрын
Oh hell naw, you best put rangers dead last, anderson, kratsov, kappo, laf
@awsomedude12345678 10 ай бұрын
Played 1 game isn't exactly a good metric for success should make it 50 games
@seancccccccc 10 ай бұрын
Yes, exactly as draftees who stayed and played their careers not leaving any spots open “Detroit” does not make the franchise bad at drafting in fact it might be exactly the opposite. Would much rather have Lidstrom/datsyuk/zetterburg there for thousands of games then 100 handful of game NHL’ers who we can’t remember the names of…
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
It’s still an nhl player so technically they hit
@seancccccccc 10 ай бұрын
@@idontgivetkachuk Agree but hitting low vs hitting high are two different things. Thanks for the video it was interesting for sure!
@awsomedude12345678 10 ай бұрын
@idontgivetkachuk yes i know but i meant that as a metric for how good a team is at drafting the cutoff should be higher otherwise teams that give younger players more chances rise to the top thats not the same as good drafting
@charlebob4u 10 ай бұрын
How come you didn't even talk about the senators? Just kinda mentioned that they were second.
@eiguch 10 ай бұрын
why did you add atlanta to the jets? but did not add atlanta to calgary?
@tysheinin8733 10 ай бұрын
How is no one saying vancouver?? Edit: I thought the video was WORST drafting teams. Sorry.
@philipdavis2187 10 ай бұрын
It’s generally accepted that the player needs 100-200 games 🤷🏼♂️
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
Technically if they played a game they are an NHL Player. That's how I looked at it. Was a lot more laid back about the approach. Hope u enjoyed!
@kingofmemes5017 10 ай бұрын
As a habs fan, not the habs.
@davidsnock2810 10 ай бұрын
This must have taken a light year to research.
@indianheadlogan 2 ай бұрын
Answer: whatever team Yzerman is working for at the time
@Benjarmon 10 ай бұрын
Bro deadahh looked at all 32 teams
@zachary4652 10 ай бұрын
sure as shit ain't gonna be the Flyers
@KeanuRave 10 ай бұрын
Gotta be the Habs from 2008 until 2021 they drafted nobody
@robertp.5400 10 ай бұрын
I think the format should've been 100 games played not 1
@rickmather7062 10 ай бұрын
Detroit is the best actually
@stevenbauer4799 10 ай бұрын
difference in drafting when you are drafting top 5-10 every season with multiple picks like quacks, sens, nj for awhile, bj's, wings do every season. and not having those high picks or first for a multitude of seasons. teams with the worst systems like b's, tb, pens. leafs have traded all those firsts seconds away to try for more kicks at the can. and you can't blow those high picks like av's didn't when they made mack, raatanen, makar count. some teams like isles just don't know what they are doing draft wise and just trade first, seconds away cause they would blow their first round pick if they had it. draft is all a crapshoot-the more picks the better chance at hitting jackpot. the higher the picks the better.
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
That’s why quality over quantity and asset management are the precedent. I’ll be linking the excel sheet soon! Thanks for watching!
@stpfan729 10 ай бұрын
It ain’t the Flyers
@ryanofallon13 10 ай бұрын
How have the kings made it this far?!?!?!
@curtisdoekes6533 10 ай бұрын
I can tell he hates the oilers lol
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
Go Flames 🔥🔥 XD
@curtisdoekes6533 10 ай бұрын
@@idontgivetkachuk Im leafs fan (dont know if you hate them)
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
@@curtisdoekes6533 Only dislike the Oilers cause of the rivalry XD. All good bud. Thanks for watching!
@curtisdoekes6533 10 ай бұрын
@@idontgivetkachukthx for video
@Mr.O-Town 10 ай бұрын
Asking to put some respect on Columbus’s name while completely jumping over and not even talk about Ottawa at all…. Lol
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
I mentioned what their avg was, I just didn’t say their gp leader.
@Mr.O-Town 10 ай бұрын
It’s okay, as an Ottawa fan I’m use to everyone ignoring them lol Unless it has to do with the entire team imploding or a former batshit crazy owner
@Zach________ 5 ай бұрын
Not the rangers
@timomajere 10 ай бұрын
Have to be a devils advocate here...If it is about quality over quantity, Vegas has had 5+ drafts and Seattle has had 2. Those are quantities. BOTH teams have had powerful Stanley Cup runs. Simply omitting them makes the whole scale defacto incomplete and obfuscated factually. I find it a telling stat that 3 of the top 4 teams shown here essentially has their best years from 1996 to 2001. The talent on teams over the past 2 decades has been so weak, that when an expansion team shows up( Like the two you left out) , they're somehow better than 3/4 of the actual NHL teams that have been situated for a LONG time. Try finding every 1st round draft pick from every team over the past 10 years. Now find every 1st rounder from 2003 to 2013. Prepare to be amazed.
@idontgivetkachuk 10 ай бұрын
You could count on 1 hand how many drafted players from Seattle have played in an NHL Game. Including them would almost guarantee they're last which I felt wouldn't be very fair.
@timothyflanigan1777 10 ай бұрын
Nobody worse than the Boston Bruins
@epidermiuss 10 ай бұрын
so you just skip ottawa ?
@FighteroftheNightman 10 ай бұрын
Yeah i dont think only 1 game was a good cutoff. Should be at least a full season for the minimum. Ypure not an NHL player just bc you got called up 1 game. Youre an NHL player when youve made an NHL roster
@Toxic_Alchemist 10 ай бұрын
you just skipped ottawa completely
@jackieeeeee_ 9 ай бұрын
#CuntyHuntyOrBust
@luminescent_dragon7147 9 ай бұрын
Fire
@edcaskinett8541 10 ай бұрын
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