Which Performance Badges Are a Scam?

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@hyundai
@hyundai 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out! Let us know when you're ready to take the Veloster N for a spin.
@vonhousin4179
@vonhousin4179 4 жыл бұрын
I'm down to take it out this weekend. Thank you for the opportunity!
@reckless0333ify
@reckless0333ify 4 жыл бұрын
I sell Hyundai. Drove the Veloster N w/performance pkg. Great car!
@thekeitohappiness
@thekeitohappiness 4 жыл бұрын
Hyundai is kicking ass. I bought an 18' Kona. You put a mean lil N motor in that puppy, and that'd be one hot lil boi.
@grantgomes2431
@grantgomes2431 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I was apart of this. imagine
@jamesabrams3715
@jamesabrams3715 4 жыл бұрын
Make lego sets please
@TWOxTONE_773
@TWOxTONE_773 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair quattro is just Audi's term for their AWD system. The same thing as 4matic is the awd system for Mercedes.
@BuzzInABillion
@BuzzInABillion 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@GamingwithIinfected
@GamingwithIinfected 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed here but still at fault for s-line and amg-line cars
@nokiarsxzmika
@nokiarsxzmika 4 жыл бұрын
Aswell as the s-line is a known styling Brand the is no s badge on the outside so it doesnt try to be an s Samen with the m styling at BMW
@TWOxTONE_773
@TWOxTONE_773 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingwithIinfected For sure. Amg. M. And S-line are the biggest culprits.
@joshuasimons7883
@joshuasimons7883 4 жыл бұрын
S-line is just a styling package. Everyone knows this. Why do we act like they try to fool anyone in thinking it's faster.
@justinolsen8118
@justinolsen8118 3 жыл бұрын
No mention of Subaru? They’ve managed to not dilute “STI” at all over the years
@transient442
@transient442 3 жыл бұрын
Mostly true. besides the "Levorg STI" imo. Don't know why STI wasn't mentioned in this video though.
@alexosk8974
@alexosk8974 3 жыл бұрын
@Stella Hohenheim lol
@Alanphuphalee
@Alanphuphalee 3 жыл бұрын
@Stella Hohenheim haha
@Another_Random_Dave
@Another_Random_Dave 3 жыл бұрын
*Head gaskets sold separately *
@Gnefitisis
@Gnefitisis 3 жыл бұрын
@@Another_Random_Dave actually that’s only for certain gens
@biggregginfrank
@biggregginfrank 3 жыл бұрын
Me: *hears "big thanks" taps right side of screen 45×*
@ali94hn
@ali94hn 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq Vanced has sponsorblock, it automatically skipped the sponsored part for me...
@pegador6
@pegador6 2 жыл бұрын
@@ali94hn cap, it stops ads from yt, not those within the video
@sheogorath6804
@sheogorath6804 Жыл бұрын
@@pegador6 It stops the ones within the video mate
@SoI_Badguy
@SoI_Badguy 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the Chevrolet "RS" badged cars. There's nothing "Rally Sport" about a 2019 Malibu.
@OnPointFirearms
@OnPointFirearms 4 жыл бұрын
Gᴜᴛꜱ • ᏖᏂᏋ ᏂᎧᏬᏁᎴ Ꭷƒ ᎴᏗᏒᏦᏁᏋᏕᏕ bwahahahahaha!
@jaskajokunen3716
@jaskajokunen3716 4 жыл бұрын
Same with skodas rs
@Andrea-nf6lk
@Andrea-nf6lk 4 жыл бұрын
it means really slow
@mikapanten8635
@mikapanten8635 4 жыл бұрын
Same with VW gti
@MMXX_CE
@MMXX_CE 4 жыл бұрын
Rally Sport has nothing to do with performance. It's a purely a visual package.
@gramwrapper306
@gramwrapper306 4 жыл бұрын
waiting for my man who will ask for an up to speed on james' pops
@anthony639
@anthony639 4 жыл бұрын
He just posted 2 mins ago
@matiasveracabrera7436
@matiasveracabrera7436 4 жыл бұрын
Man it's almost day 69
@yuvalmoyal_1824
@yuvalmoyal_1824 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@gramwrapper306
@gramwrapper306 4 жыл бұрын
alright ill look at it edit: i can't find his comment, oof
@samholdsworth3957
@samholdsworth3957 4 жыл бұрын
Is this English?
@siviter
@siviter 2 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between M, M performance and M-sport. Here's how they compare with Audi for reference: 1. M (M2) - RS (RS3) 2. M Performance (M240i) - S (S3) 3. M Sport (220i) - S-Line (A3 S-Line) 1. All out performance. 2. High performance but made to be used as a daily. 3. Mainly aesthetics, so it looks like the higher end cars but are more economical to run.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 2 жыл бұрын
But they all look like boxes! Almost like those crappy Soviet cars.
@JC-du3gw
@JC-du3gw 2 жыл бұрын
@@KasumiRINA tell that to Volvo
@randomuploads20
@randomuploads20 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the M sport from the 2013 5 series (535d)
@tdrxy
@tdrxy 2 жыл бұрын
@@KasumiRINA that's the amurican cars you're taking about. German and Italian cars are sexy
@LilBunny6077
@LilBunny6077 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro. Tell them. Some don't know anything about the brand but move on to criticise it. I don't like this channel tho
@RaijinFK8
@RaijinFK8 3 жыл бұрын
As a Type R owner, it makes me proud that Honda didn’t dilute the Type R badge, and that they know what the Type R badge truly meant.
@_Zekken
@_Zekken 3 жыл бұрын
As another Type R owner, I agree.
@fbkensarhd5279
@fbkensarhd5279 3 жыл бұрын
Truly.
@_Zekken
@_Zekken 3 жыл бұрын
@@issacflores9278 okay, whatever helps you sleep at night dude. (He deleted his comment, it said Type R = Ricer)
@RaijinFK8
@RaijinFK8 3 жыл бұрын
@@_Zekken He clearly doesn't know what the word "RICER" means. People nowadays will just blurt out ricer at anything with aero, without understanding or knowing whether the aero pieces actually serve a function. If the aero has function, it ain't rice.
@_Zekken
@_Zekken 3 жыл бұрын
@@RaijinFK8 i know that, you know that. Everyone with a brain knows that. But theres no point in arguing with people that stupid, they'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
@retailytt
@retailytt 4 жыл бұрын
Donut: we're going to talk about performance badges Subaru STi: am I a joke to you?
@skippychompy916
@skippychompy916 4 жыл бұрын
Nick Lutz fact, wish they at least mentioned them.
@imoffendedthatyouareoffended
@imoffendedthatyouareoffended 4 жыл бұрын
well to be fair, the sti hasnt changed much and therefore its stayed true to the badge :D love sti but thats my assumption.
@josephmoorison2200
@josephmoorison2200 4 жыл бұрын
@@imoffendedthatyouareoffended yeah, that. And they don't have a silly ass "STI Line" comprised of nearly stock cars.
@FullOfMalarky
@FullOfMalarky 4 жыл бұрын
Joseph Moorison they kinda did on the BRZ Sti, Mekong they didn’t bump power much. But for the most part, still a cool car
@FakhryH
@FakhryH 4 жыл бұрын
The levorg Sti basically a wrx wagon, not a sti worthy car.
@RunDub
@RunDub 4 жыл бұрын
“Quattro” merely denotes a model as AWD, and is not a performance badge at all. S and RS are Audi’s performance badges.
@Farie977
@Farie977 4 жыл бұрын
Audi's high performance division was Quattro GmbH (now Audi Sport GmbH), so it pretty much made sense why some people may see it as a performance badge. Heck, their legendary rally car is the Audi Quattro S1 :v
@MarshalBeard
@MarshalBeard 4 жыл бұрын
They seemed a bit clueless when it came to audi actually. The RS is Audi's true performance badge.
@razvanmihalache5680
@razvanmihalache5680 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarshalBeard Well a long time ago, Quattro was synonymous with Audi performance. The legendary rally car was literally named the Audi Quattro S1.
@dylannix4289
@dylannix4289 4 жыл бұрын
Razvan Mihalache Because it had that drivetrain... Seriously, Audi can’t help it if people are too stupid to understand the difference between a performance badge and just a plain old drivetrain because the name of that drivetrain was sYnoNyMoUs with their race team. Highly doubt they’d really care either, they’re Germans after all
@ARentz07
@ARentz07 4 жыл бұрын
@@dylannix4289 I do think Audi cashed in on the rally success of the ur-Quattro when deciding to use that name... But, you are correct, it's just an AWD system. ;)
@slamrahovart9024
@slamrahovart9024 3 жыл бұрын
The BMW M badge thing kills me. Growing up that M meant so much to me lusting after an E30 M3
@PhilipFry.
@PhilipFry. 2 жыл бұрын
You are kind of right. There are still some great M Line cars, that have a more powerful engine and everything.
@ARMY-up4my
@ARMY-up4my 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but sadly it's a joke now, the cars aren't but the badge is because kids love to upbadge their BMW 330i base model to the M series and trash the M badge with their stock cars... Love the M series but hate the wannabes
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 2 жыл бұрын
@@ARMY-up4my the BMW cars that were kinda cool were the three that became Bondmobiles, they never had the M thing, just Q lol... Otherwise, beemers were always associated with gopnicks and small-time gangs here in Eastern Europe, though I've heard in the west they're popular among men in midlife crisis so kinda lame for the opposite reason. Get a Japanese car instead, they'll serve more, be faster, way better looking than a box, and nobody will cringe from seeing someone in it like we do with wannabe out of touch guys in BMWs.)))
@ARMY-up4my
@ARMY-up4my 2 жыл бұрын
@@KasumiRINA not a fan in Japanese cars because they're eghhh feeling, I prefer American cars for a lot of reasons and I used to own a 1994 Supra when I lived in Germany but it was not really that fun to drive, sold it for $40,000 back in 1999 and I wish I kept it because I could sell it for $180,000 and there would be an idiot that would buy it
@nameless1027
@nameless1027 2 жыл бұрын
@@ARMY-up4my Yup, see that all the time. Kids will either take off the rear badges to hide the fact it's an entry level bmw or upbadge them. it ticks me off.
@alexbenjaminlubbers
@alexbenjaminlubbers 3 жыл бұрын
Chevy's SS badge: "No love for me here, I see"
@therandom3452
@therandom3452 2 жыл бұрын
thatd what i was thinking!
@mechadonia
@mechadonia 2 жыл бұрын
My grandpa had an SS badge too. Huh.
@maynarddrivmester2224
@maynarddrivmester2224 2 жыл бұрын
Big sad, I love LS powered cars
@kilotiger7780
@kilotiger7780 2 жыл бұрын
And its actually legit
@eeggg9953
@eeggg9953 2 жыл бұрын
@@mechadonia whatchu mean by that 👀
@TrevorX3
@TrevorX3 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sad SVT didn't get more attention here.
@jcaj9002
@jcaj9002 4 жыл бұрын
RIP SVT
@chrischetwyn1539
@chrischetwyn1539 4 жыл бұрын
RIP? Why?
@ishshah8695
@ishshah8695 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrischetwyn1539 SVT, Aussie's FPV and Team RS were merged together with Ford Racing, which was rebranded into Ford Performance. The SVT name is no longer used nor any of the other previous performance houses names
@richslayer7521
@richslayer7521 4 жыл бұрын
Trevor Barnes still got 69 likes
@axelbuckets3858
@axelbuckets3858 4 жыл бұрын
Svt was way better than today’s st
@GoofysBandit
@GoofysBandit 4 жыл бұрын
Neezmo: This car neezmo poway baby!!
@sitogaming5183
@sitogaming5183 4 жыл бұрын
Austin Murphy its pronounce like that man.
@fenrir4099
@fenrir4099 4 жыл бұрын
I said the same thing 🤣
@uniwasamistake6334
@uniwasamistake6334 4 жыл бұрын
no, its spelled kneesmo and my background as an asian weeb proves it.
@kiyoponnn
@kiyoponnn 4 жыл бұрын
@@uniwasamistake6334 You're a kpop fanatic, not a weeb
@TheGameFans15
@TheGameFans15 4 жыл бұрын
@@uniwasamistake6334 Your not a weeb you stan shit
@jacobbwalters8133
@jacobbwalters8133 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is worth noting that every model in Ford’s ST lineup has a pretty significant power boost over the original model, even if that model is a midsize crossover.
@lunchboxproductions1183
@lunchboxproductions1183 2 жыл бұрын
Right?! Pretty sure an AWD Explorer with 400hp is a pretty legit daily
@cruton7274
@cruton7274 2 жыл бұрын
Like cmon, the explorer st is a twin turbo, like whattttt
@johnathonkarcz6605
@johnathonkarcz6605 Жыл бұрын
As an edge ST owner I feel personally attacked. That thing is a blast to drive everyday while also being able to haul a family and get groceries. Plus it’s also sort of a sleeper, because anytime some one tries to pass me on the right at a light, it does not work out for them. I’m with you @jacob b walters.
@johnathonkarcz6605
@johnathonkarcz6605 Жыл бұрын
@@cruton7274 so does the edge. Edge is 2.7TT and explorer is 3.0TT. Both are pretty nice especially for the price.
@michaelreiff1564
@michaelreiff1564 Жыл бұрын
@@lunchboxproductions1183 it’s a super fun car to own, almost overkill😂
@imstupid880
@imstupid880 3 жыл бұрын
I, too, enjoy my Haiyunda.
@donkerbolls
@donkerbolls 3 жыл бұрын
@@giventorejoice ppssstt yo Walulu he was just making fun of the way the dude pronounced it
@hopsm
@hopsm 3 жыл бұрын
I do too
@DR_Bloom86
@DR_Bloom86 4 жыл бұрын
Should have included Chevy with the SS badge and Dodge with the R/T
@DR_Bloom86
@DR_Bloom86 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaywiththaheat yes on the charger and challenger but at one point they put the RT badge on the avenger, and the freaking Journey and Caravan!!!
@shadow1fun777
@shadow1fun777 4 жыл бұрын
@ladawg81 yes they did, they also put a 300hp v8 and a 5.3 second 0-60 on it
@shadow1fun777
@shadow1fun777 4 жыл бұрын
@ladawg81 an example perhaps?
@alexvandenheuvel3874
@alexvandenheuvel3874 4 жыл бұрын
@ladawg81 part of it was because they really did improve it it had an LS in it so the chevy it constituted as an SS it was running 320hp to the front wheels. Chevy tried to make it sporty with what they had
@nikc6320
@nikc6320 4 жыл бұрын
You could get a 2.2l 4 speed auto s10 ss pumping out around 110hp lol probable a 19+sec 1/4 mile
@simonaarekol3336
@simonaarekol3336 4 жыл бұрын
6:40 quattro is the name of the four wheel drive system. It doesn’t have anything to do with power. You don’t see quattro on a fwd audi. The s however, is another story
@brainblasta2
@brainblasta2 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. RS, S and Quattro mean something performance wise. S line is the cosmetics package.
@boolins4996
@boolins4996 4 жыл бұрын
I drive an B8.5 S4 and I cringed when he mentioned Audi
@Ephoros
@Ephoros 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but S Line is distintcly a appearance package. It doesn't say S on the back of an A4 with a S Line package, it only says it on trims, seats and such. Also wouldn't find an S Line badge on a S or RS. But on the other side even i'm not sure what the hell were they smoking when they made SQ's.
@epicswirl
@epicswirl 4 жыл бұрын
brainblasta2 Quattro is the drivetrain he’s right I have an Audi
@brainblasta2
@brainblasta2 4 жыл бұрын
Keith Flagg he’s not right about quattro badges being applied to a car and then being no different from a regular car. An A4 with quattro is clearly different performance wise from an A4 without quattro. It’s not just badging.
@TRD-FRS
@TRD-FRS 2 жыл бұрын
For part 2, TRD should be included. It’s been diluted an ok amount, TRD US is heavily diluted, but TRD is still making very good aftermarket parts for Toyota’s road cars, such as a lot of their parts for the ZN6
@romiarkan450
@romiarkan450 2 жыл бұрын
It's now Gazoo Racing (GR) which is mostly performance based
@derpedfox
@derpedfox 2 жыл бұрын
Check out GR sport (Not GR, but GR sport). Absolute shitshow
@TRD-FRS
@TRD-FRS 2 жыл бұрын
@@romiarkan450 no idea why I never replied, but technically they aren’t the same. GR existed as a separate brand in the mid 2000’s, and they helped Lexus with the LFA when Toyota themselves didn’t really want to take part. They also had their own race team. But since they have started to become super competitive with their GR team, Toyota started picking them up (since GR literally had Akiyo Toyoda as their boss), and since then they have kinda pushed aside the TRD name and it’s more of a joint between the two, which is weird because (at least for the ZN8 chassis) TRD has parts labeled as TRD yet have a GR badge on them.
@TRD-FRS
@TRD-FRS 2 жыл бұрын
@@derpedfox pretty much like Toyotas Modellista. Just a more premium looking interior and exterior.
@TRD-FRS
@TRD-FRS 2 жыл бұрын
@Golden Auto do they actually have any performance modifications? The Camry just has red seatbelts and a aero kit, who cares about a Sequia, and all the Tacomas have are just an exhaust, intake, and suspension. For any intake or exhaust component to have actual gains they need a tune, and Toyota doesn’t touch up the ECU at all
@DebonairOnline
@DebonairOnline 2 жыл бұрын
This needs a Part 2; F / F-sport, SS, TRD ...
@weswest8666
@weswest8666 4 жыл бұрын
SRT is prob the one badge that has gone the other direction, each year they increase the power, avg new SRT probably has 500hp
@michaelr.1709
@michaelr.1709 4 жыл бұрын
wes west Dodge has an extreme dilution of the badge because each time they up the performance, they come up with a new performance badge. First, it was R/T. Then, SRT, then Hellcat, then Demon...
@zakman246
@zakman246 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelr.1709 But they are "SRT Hellcat" and "SRT Demon". It's just like M1, M2, M3 etc but swap the number for the codename (Demon, Hellcat).
@speedyme200
@speedyme200 4 жыл бұрын
@@zakman246 SRT392
@phizzlecat7995
@phizzlecat7995 4 жыл бұрын
@@zakman246 couldn't have said it better myself. Michael R. Has no idea about Dodge's performance vehicles or what distinguishes them from the others.
@Vacaneu
@Vacaneu 4 жыл бұрын
Actually 700
@JapaneseSoomi
@JapaneseSoomi 4 жыл бұрын
When i see a Ford Focus ST i treat it like a normal trim. However if i see a RS it makes me smile.
@xeigen2
@xeigen2 4 жыл бұрын
I laughed when I found out the lowest spec Fiesta with an ST badge on it has 125 hp and a 0-60 of 9.4 seconds.
@t-bone9239
@t-bone9239 4 жыл бұрын
Xei thats st line
@gwcrispi
@gwcrispi 4 жыл бұрын
The Focus STs are no slouch. They are the hot car in SCCA G Street.
@xeigen2
@xeigen2 4 жыл бұрын
@@t-bone9239 That's why I said "with an ST badge" and not "Fiesta ST"...
@nekedsneked6167
@nekedsneked6167 4 жыл бұрын
I love STs i really miss my focus st. The best hot hatch ever made imo. The civic type r would probably beat it out if it wasnt for the lack of proper cooling
@VoltHaul
@VoltHaul 2 жыл бұрын
6:45 Audi usually keeps a difference between S and S-Line though, especially in the badging.
@kabir.dhingra
@kabir.dhingra 3 жыл бұрын
The BMW M550i has to be the best M Performance BMW. 200hp more than the 540i and a whole second off the 0-60.
@Jsmitt716
@Jsmitt716 2 жыл бұрын
What's the 0-60 before the 200 hp increase?
@kabir.dhingra
@kabir.dhingra 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jsmitt716 540i xDrive 0-60 is 4.6, M550i xDrive is 3.6
@pranavgupta8115
@pranavgupta8115 4 жыл бұрын
BMW tells you that the "M Sport Package" doesn't add any horsepower, just changes the looks
@rampage3337
@rampage3337 4 жыл бұрын
yeah and non of the M sport/performance packs actualy claim to be M cars. they just claim to have aerodynamic and styling done by bmw M team. wich they do. and the Mxxx (m235i m240i m135i.....) they all have M sport performance parts in them. like suspension,brakes more powerfull engine. sure you can get M sport parts for the non Mxxx versions but they still don't have the M badge in the name becaus they don't have the more powerfull engine
@sravans5100
@sravans5100 4 жыл бұрын
Actually it depends on your region , in my region the M sport version gets more horsepower ! Last gen 3 series had 190ish hp for the luxury variant and the sport version 330i sport had a bit ove 320hp
@seanwilks7712
@seanwilks7712 4 жыл бұрын
SRAVAN S That’s how it is here in pac northwest. All hail the GTR killer!
@vossphotography1842
@vossphotography1842 4 жыл бұрын
SRAVAN S the luxury variant you’re referring to is most likely to be a 320i or 320d. The sportier one you’re referring to is a 330i and is a lot more powerful
@rendition8528
@rendition8528 4 жыл бұрын
people be like "bmw fan boys in a nutshell" tho, lmao.
@anthonytran3629
@anthonytran3629 4 жыл бұрын
Did Nolan say “2009” instead of “2019.”
@randomdogger5278
@randomdogger5278 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Tran yes
@theamateurlancia
@theamateurlancia 4 жыл бұрын
No, there was a Supra announcement in 2009. Tho it was going to be built under the FT-HS model, not the FT-1. Thank god we got a gasoline running FT-1 styled supra and not some ugly hybrid FT-HS styled supra.
@samholdsworth3957
@samholdsworth3957 4 жыл бұрын
Gg editing
@CurbsideBills
@CurbsideBills 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah...they announced the return of the Supra in 2009...ok Mr. " not a real car guy"
@empirehelp
@empirehelp 4 жыл бұрын
Yes he did
@anshularora300
@anshularora300 3 жыл бұрын
Some performance badges, in my opinion, are greater value for money and offer almost the same performance plus a comfy ride. (Take m550i for example)
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 2 жыл бұрын
Aston Martin wasn't into sports and racing much until recently, they actually went the other way around, from road models to serious racing.
@davidmiletic6647
@davidmiletic6647 4 жыл бұрын
"We will see, high-endai"
@hyri3188
@hyri3188 4 жыл бұрын
Donut back then: NISMO IS SOOOOO AWESOME! THEY EVEN TUNED A JUKE Donut now: Nismo sucks! They even tuned a juke! Uggghhh
@ayumikuro3768
@ayumikuro3768 4 жыл бұрын
Audi has an S-line which is just an optics package euwh... Mercedes an AMG-line which is just an optics package euwh... Fails to mention the ST-line Ford has, which is just an optics package. Although I don't know if they are only sold in Europe.
@dirtaylulu
@dirtaylulu 4 жыл бұрын
@@ayumikuro3768 every car in the ST line have different engines with increased power over their lower trim levels in the US
@ayumikuro3768
@ayumikuro3768 4 жыл бұрын
@@dirtaylulu I was wrong. I looked it up on the Ford website, they come with an additional ~30 hp here, too. Sorry, my bad. That's probably why you shouldn't always believe, what your uncle tells you.
@CAepicreviews
@CAepicreviews 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't wanna ride in a 600 horsepower Nissan Juke I dont know what you want
@hyri3188
@hyri3188 4 жыл бұрын
Geralt of Rivia lol
@davidreed304
@davidreed304 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, the addition of the word “line” to a badge warrants caution. It means you get the looks w/o performance. To appreciate the EdST, you need to compare it the other Edge trims. EdST is definitely more performance-oriented over the Titanium.
@anomalouswoof2554
@anomalouswoof2554 2 жыл бұрын
Me? I prefer a sleeper. To quote an infamous movie bad guy: "Badges? We don't gotta show you no steenking badges!"
@ZX-es9zw
@ZX-es9zw 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody remembers the rise and fall of the word "Mopar" There was a time when those parts meant something
@pinkipromise
@pinkipromise 4 жыл бұрын
moparscape
@noble5856
@noble5856 4 жыл бұрын
300ZX now molar makes everything and srt is the thing you wanna look for
@hunterlayden2238
@hunterlayden2238 3 жыл бұрын
Edlebrock
@SantanKGhey1234
@SantanKGhey1234 3 жыл бұрын
means Junk
@koencarter4347
@koencarter4347 2 жыл бұрын
These days Mopar = Chrysler so I'm staying FARRRRRRR AWAY from that shit
@psychologicaltirefire8190
@psychologicaltirefire8190 4 жыл бұрын
Donut: Today we will be talking about performance badges. SRT: Am I joke to you
@isaaceberly5939
@isaaceberly5939 4 жыл бұрын
probably my favorite performance badge, and as far as i know theyve stayed true to their name
@BigWheel.
@BigWheel. 4 жыл бұрын
@@isaaceberly5939 they have, at the expense of anything with an R/T badge on it unfortunately
@redbeardsgarage3748
@redbeardsgarage3748 4 жыл бұрын
Except SRT made the R/T badge rather pointless
@dallasevans8984
@dallasevans8984 4 жыл бұрын
Leon Trotsky yes
@bro6046
@bro6046 4 жыл бұрын
Lexus F sport ?
@swamp.donkey
@swamp.donkey Жыл бұрын
Nolan has always been a solid presenter and host I'm glad he's become an integral part of the Donut host lineup.
@DengMam
@DengMam 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised that the Yaris GR wasn’t mentioned as it was already known at the time and I even videos of youtubers already testing it. That thing is a beast.
@RexWort
@RexWort 4 жыл бұрын
Slap performance badges on Truck and SUV Me: "......Does it drift?" 🤔 Dealer: "......It can roll......." 😅
@Recon4Lifez
@Recon4Lifez 4 жыл бұрын
How is Jeep’s “Trail Rated” badge not on here? I’m a Jeep guy myself and I wanna barf when I see that thing 😂
@michaelmiller3648
@michaelmiller3648 4 жыл бұрын
Or trailhawk
@moihawk666
@moihawk666 4 жыл бұрын
true
@zachgrant1840
@zachgrant1840 4 жыл бұрын
Was kind of thinking the same, but at least they only use the Rubicon name for the Wrangler & Gladiator
@iPROxIAMROCK
@iPROxIAMROCK 4 жыл бұрын
Recon4Lifez my jeeps srt badge wasn’t here either 😩😂
@patrickturner1575
@patrickturner1575 4 жыл бұрын
A Jeep guy outta know that any Jeep sold in the US needs to pass through an off-roading course in order to be sold here. "Trail-Rated" means it can make the Rubicon course (last I remember, that's the name lol), with very little, if any, help at all.
@codyzcs
@codyzcs 3 жыл бұрын
That "according to Car And Driver" lil diss was amazing
@JobiWan144
@JobiWan144 2 жыл бұрын
In addition to some other performance badges mentioned in other comments, you also forgot Lexus' F Sport. It's kind of a mixed bag, ranging from the true performance of models like the IS F and LFA, to some light performance and cosmetic upgrades to models like the IS 350, to a cosmetic-only trim level on models like the CT 200h. Generally, the rule is that, when an "F" replaces the usual 3-digit number in the model name, that's a true performance car (like a BMW M3), while the F Sport package or trim level is a lesser upgrade that usually doesn't affect power/acceleration (like BMW's M Performance or M Sport).
@cedricl.marquard6273
@cedricl.marquard6273 Жыл бұрын
I don't see how that is a watering down, as many people think. Since the IS F or LS F are still F cars, other ones are not F cars, but merely, F-styled cars. Like the bmw M-sport doesn't claim to be an M car, just M-styled. To me that still keeps the M badge intact, since M and M-style is, at least to me, clearly different
@lostvagueness2080
@lostvagueness2080 4 жыл бұрын
Simple way to break it down... BMW: M and M performance real, M sport styling (with suspension upgrades), Xdrive is AWD, Sdrive is RWD. Audi: S and RS real, S Line styling, quarto is AWD Ford: RS and ST real, ST line styling Vauxhall/opel VXR real, VX Line styling. Mercedes: AMG real, AMG line styling. Volkswagen: GTI and R real, R line styling. Renault: RS real, GT line styling Jaguar: R and S real, R Sport and S Sport are styling and soft tweeks. Alfa Romeo: GTA and Quadrafolio real Fiat: Abarth... Bit of both dependant on models over the years. Volvo: polestar real, R-design styling. Skoda: VRs real, sport line styling. Seat: Cupra real, FR is trim but with a few luke warm engine options and sportier dampers. Peugeot: GTI real, GT Line styling. Citroën: VTS (discontinued) real, VTR has hot hatch looks but only minor improvements. Mini: JCW works and GP real, Cooper S a few tweaks and a few extra ponies, Cooper just styling. Anything outside of Europe I'd just be guessing, but it's safe to say add "line" to anything and it seems to just be marketing. Also its worth considering rules and regulations change country to country so local markets may have different restrictions and therefore have to have different marketing strategies, for example handling in some countries is more important than massive power gains so not all tweaks are about the engine.
@campkira
@campkira 4 жыл бұрын
yeah but most of them do nothing.. just for owner....
@Excepticus
@Excepticus 4 жыл бұрын
What about Suzuki sport?
@WArBoxfr
@WArBoxfr 4 жыл бұрын
gti and gli but pretty accurate
@Cosmo-ye7em
@Cosmo-ye7em 4 жыл бұрын
AMG Adds HP
@mohdalali2630
@mohdalali2630 4 жыл бұрын
BMW Sdrive is FWD not RWD
@jasonyoung6420
@jasonyoung6420 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else remember Fords SVT line for the USDM? Mustang, lightning, contour, and focus models; they were no joke.
@realcreamofwheat7728
@realcreamofwheat7728 4 жыл бұрын
I had the 1998.5 contour svt as my first car. Still the best car Ive ever owned.
@groundzero5940
@groundzero5940 4 жыл бұрын
Look up boss 5.4 f150 only 500 made and I have #90
@jamescausey5888
@jamescausey5888 4 жыл бұрын
GROUNDZERO fuck yea
@geronimowindow
@geronimowindow 4 жыл бұрын
Ford of Australia also had their FPV lineup, sedans and utes equipped with powerful V8 engines as well as the local legend, the 4 litre Barra inline 6.
@fxnr1r
@fxnr1r 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@TheDirtyGoatee
@TheDirtyGoatee 2 жыл бұрын
Only just seeing this video and I agree with the ST badge. You failed to mention the ST-Line trim level that we saw for only one year (the final year) in the Fiesta but still is available in Europe. I love my Focus ST and it really wakes up with a few grand worth of simple bolt ons and a tune.
@madpistol
@madpistol 3 жыл бұрын
M340i owner here. The "M" badge (even if the car is not a full M-car) is definitely not a scam... this sucker scoots! It may "only" be M performance, but it's a very VERY quick car.
@blakeba6996
@blakeba6996 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that be said “2009” when he was talking about the supra ?
@safye4
@safye4 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, I noticed the same thing.
@SteveOnlin
@SteveOnlin 4 жыл бұрын
@@calebrolls5372 nope
@rayhanrizvi334
@rayhanrizvi334 3 жыл бұрын
@@calebrolls5372 nah, because then he would have said 2019 a few secs later. he did not
@gabehodos-rich2372
@gabehodos-rich2372 3 жыл бұрын
Actually I do believe that they revealed that they were going to make another Supra in 2009 but didn’t release it till 2019
@EctoGamer
@EctoGamer 3 жыл бұрын
He said "revealed in 2009" which it was
@jonathanwilmers5957
@jonathanwilmers5957 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota: winning Le Mans 2019 Me: …um Porsche and Audi left
@OldLukes
@OldLukes 4 жыл бұрын
True dat - Audi got bored :P
@42gi
@42gi 4 жыл бұрын
So? What's wrong with that? Remember early 2000s?
@v1_rotate638
@v1_rotate638 4 жыл бұрын
Lukas Alt actually, Porsche came back, kicked their ass a few more times and Audi knew their reign was over, then Porsche got bored and went to FE
@42gi
@42gi 4 жыл бұрын
@@TLO7 you guys discrediting toyota for that, yet forgetting Audi's reign in early 2000's is also because they don't have any 'proper' competitors
@EngelSpiel
@EngelSpiel 4 жыл бұрын
There were still the privateer teams.
@kirkandrew7853
@kirkandrew7853 Жыл бұрын
I have an Explorer ST and I love it. Traded in my GTI for a family car and I could not be happier. The performance is actually pretty impressive. The acceleration is on point and it handles like a dream for its size.
@spevomax2
@spevomax2 Жыл бұрын
You should really include Opel "OPC" performance badge here. Opel still use this badge only on cars that specifically came from "Opel Performance Center" and besides their sporty look, they perform like race cars as well.
@offspring9463
@offspring9463 Жыл бұрын
OPC will be discontued in 2023 and the new performance badge GSe (Grand Sport electric) will replace the OPC brand.
@ConFall
@ConFall 4 жыл бұрын
I found a Honda Civic Si with AMG badge on it
@mantis_toboggan_md
@mantis_toboggan_md 4 жыл бұрын
Ooohh, factory performance from at least 2 different continents. You got lucky.
@2sonicdoom
@2sonicdoom 4 жыл бұрын
I see your Honda Civic Si and raise you a smart car with an AMG badge on it
@phillip2169
@phillip2169 4 жыл бұрын
@@2sonicdoom but Smart is at least owned by Mercedes
@chiefdenis
@chiefdenis 4 жыл бұрын
@@2sonicdoom lol, brabus did tune smart cars to
@ghostwrench2292
@ghostwrench2292 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a Honda Ridgeline with a Cadillac badge on it.
@SaintMecha
@SaintMecha 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota’s TRD is the most useless sporty badge ever
@_winter7745
@_winter7745 4 жыл бұрын
Lol the TRD Tacoma. Black plastic and some wheels.
@michaelreed6389
@michaelreed6389 4 жыл бұрын
Abdulla Ali now ain’t this the fucking truth amen amen amen 💯💯
@furkanovich
@furkanovich 4 жыл бұрын
Lassi Kinnunen they got the Gr-sport on the older Yaris which are just 1.5 hybrids. The GRMN on the other hand is a beast
@c0r5e
@c0r5e 4 жыл бұрын
Abdulla Ali yeah
@FEVERNOVAA
@FEVERNOVAA 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota racing development, we littreally sell you more plastic!
@makpack
@makpack 3 жыл бұрын
Explorer ST is one of the most badass SUVs to actually drive. Total sleeper at over 400HP. The best tech anywhere.
@jaimerodriguez1550
@jaimerodriguez1550 Жыл бұрын
Thank you brotha, I'm now very informed of these carmaking badgery.
@windowsxp9120
@windowsxp9120 4 жыл бұрын
Mazdaspeed: Am I a joke to you?
@psnmadracer27
@psnmadracer27 4 жыл бұрын
The brand was killed in 2013 or so, and it seems Mazda has 0 intention of bringing it back :( Shame, a new Mazdaspeed mx5 would shred.
@smar7931
@smar7931 4 жыл бұрын
@@guyontheinternet8891 What?! No way! The Mazdaspeed 3 had 263. If it had 400 then the Type-R, Focus RS, and Golf R would be shot dead.
@beng156
@beng156 3 жыл бұрын
Really was hoping for a Mazdaspeed 6 resurrection
@andrewkahler9359
@andrewkahler9359 3 жыл бұрын
@@psnmadracer27 they built one. It's called the FIAT 124 Abarth.
@psnmadracer27
@psnmadracer27 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewkahler9359 it's slower and heavier than the Miata though, and the engine is still of Italian design
@vixz6441
@vixz6441 4 жыл бұрын
Donut: we're going to talk about which performance badges are a Scam Toyota TRD: hold my beer
@RAID3R63
@RAID3R63 4 жыл бұрын
well it depends on the vehicle the trd Camry is much better than the xse the transmission is much more responsive in the trd
@netmatrix75
@netmatrix75 4 жыл бұрын
TRD only made performance parts up till early 2000. The last car that still had TRD parts should be the Altezza or IS200. Then on the TRD brand turned into dress up kits. Wheels, bumpers and trims are all that was left of this brand.
@hybridAbsol
@hybridAbsol 4 жыл бұрын
Didnt TRD offered a Supercharged kit for the GT86 ?
@netmatrix75
@netmatrix75 4 жыл бұрын
@@hybridAbsol Read this forum, www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98207 Only 4 units made by a racing company. 27K each. I can only agree that it exists, But its not listed in any TRD catalog. You have a better chance of landing a HKS kit than that.
@_winter7745
@_winter7745 4 жыл бұрын
@@hybridAbsol This has already been answered before I'm chiming in, but I will point out that the GT86 has multiple available supercharger kits. They're just not TRD.
@BramBram83
@BramBram83 3 жыл бұрын
Def need a part two left out so many good ones like chevy and SS the cadi v series dodge demon and hellcats etc.
@keisuketakahasi4584
@keisuketakahasi4584 2 жыл бұрын
i thought of bmw and good thing they are on this list... they have so many m badges thrown around that are no better than the regulars
@Diego-dj9yl
@Diego-dj9yl 4 жыл бұрын
We need an STI and Evo up to speed remake with James's craziness and energy. Just throwing this out there
@campkira
@campkira 4 жыл бұрын
brz ts.... let face it.. some just junk... it a little different than normal one but mean nothing... it all about driving want...
@padraigrab08
@padraigrab08 4 жыл бұрын
Car Wars The Last WRX
@blackonblack...9244
@blackonblack...9244 4 жыл бұрын
@@campkira Subie BRZs aren't even selling. Those sales have been sitting for months to years since they came out.
@FunTimeWithSouls
@FunTimeWithSouls 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackonblack...9244 if they put a turbo or a super charger on it from the factory they would sell like crazy.
@nonono9406
@nonono9406 4 жыл бұрын
Sti I recommend chlamydia
@dekipedija2253
@dekipedija2253 3 жыл бұрын
you forgot quadrifoglio, and you shouldn't have! Hands down, the best badge in the industry
@Editgimp
@Editgimp 3 жыл бұрын
That's part of Alfa Romeo's heritage no? Like they put it to honor one of their racers, who's luck changed after drawing the clover on the car
@grahamsmith7778
@grahamsmith7778 3 жыл бұрын
Your own an alfa?
@grahamsmith7778
@grahamsmith7778 3 жыл бұрын
@[Removed] I own one myself, I just figured since the alfa community is generally retarded and rather annoying that he might be one of them
@notjoey517
@notjoey517 3 жыл бұрын
And F Sport
@adamspitfire
@adamspitfire 3 жыл бұрын
You mean quadrifogliogliolio
@nicktarren6422
@nicktarren6422 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for not pulling any of the usual bullshit while promoting the sponsor, Nolan your an angel. I subsequently don’t have a headache.
@alans.4167
@alans.4167 3 жыл бұрын
The Audi Quattro (capitol Q) was a specific model and was the first AWD car to win a rally race. After that win Audi used the quattro name (lower case q) on every AWD car they made.
@raiygee8680
@raiygee8680 4 жыл бұрын
TRD, most used "sport badge" in toyota manufacturing line
@asit6947
@asit6947 4 жыл бұрын
TRD is trash. In my country TRD cars are only with decals and shitty aftermarket fenders and bumpers
@makuronin
@makuronin 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota tRuck Development
@DrSabot-A
@DrSabot-A 4 жыл бұрын
TRD is absolutely soiled. It went from a respective small-time brand into a decal store and cheap sideskirt vendors. Literally almost every Toyota crossover, sedan and hatch on the street has a TRD decal or "parts"
@metal4ever516
@metal4ever516 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Toyota fan, and you're absolutely right. A long time ago, TRD used to stand for something - now that badge is on half the Tacomas I see.
@RiandaOktafiansahNerdVox
@RiandaOktafiansahNerdVox 4 жыл бұрын
Here we have "TRD Sportivo" badged Toyotas which only add decals and hideous rims
@op9787
@op9787 4 жыл бұрын
When you see that SRT badge you know it has some powa babeh
@alvaro1768
@alvaro1768 4 жыл бұрын
710KingPin yea but its still a land boat
@SpartanX360
@SpartanX360 4 жыл бұрын
A boat that do burnouts..
@arcticwolf6714
@arcticwolf6714 4 жыл бұрын
@@alvaro1768 but.... It has mo power
@ztotheu2974
@ztotheu2974 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao... sure Mr. Neon SRT.
@tkracing5945
@tkracing5945 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpartanX360 you can do burnouts with lada
@achintyaaatreya
@achintyaaatreya 3 жыл бұрын
My neighbour has an X3 with an M badge. And it's a diesel. Folks tell me that M,AMG and RS badges had a lot of exclusivity in the 90s and early 2000s. Not now though.
@Gfoee
@Gfoee 2 жыл бұрын
Although, yes, you can get AMG trim on just about every Mercedes model the vehicle still does not get the AMG badge. The only vehicles with an AMG badge are AMG vehicles. However, not all are hand built engines but at the same time the C43 is substantially more car than a C300 in every aspect.
@TrynaBeCray
@TrynaBeCray 4 жыл бұрын
Base model BMW exists: BMW owner: [insert M badge here]
@Viper-dn8ix
@Viper-dn8ix 4 жыл бұрын
BMW Enthusiasts: *Incomprehensible screeching*
@77xyu94
@77xyu94 4 жыл бұрын
Not the worst yet,i have seen a car owner slap the m badge on baseline merc c class😂
@TrynaBeCray
@TrynaBeCray 4 жыл бұрын
@@77xyu94 lol wut why...
@QaysTarmizi
@QaysTarmizi 4 жыл бұрын
Your dp.. i thought fly was on my screen 😂
@77xyu94
@77xyu94 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrynaBeCray i dont know just see it before in front of me while cruising on the highway...and tonnes of 'fake' civic type r right here which technically just the badge and trims on the 1.5 litre tc civic...😑
@axelbuckets3858
@axelbuckets3858 4 жыл бұрын
Mazdaspeed “you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain” *ford ahem ahem*
@MZ-bl6wg
@MZ-bl6wg 4 жыл бұрын
Axel Buckets insert the new electric crossover "Mach mustang"??? Ken Block tried so hard to be excited about it when he drove it Lolol
@bayareanewman1566
@bayareanewman1566 4 жыл бұрын
Zoom zoom
@PTAR1984
@PTAR1984 4 жыл бұрын
Axel Buckets kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d8BxgZeAs8_bmoU.html
@manenwan
@manenwan 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota has been putting the GR badge on some asian specific eco box like the Vios. The Vios GR Sport has a CVT and no additional horsepower, suffice to say it was a let down
@evilpig247
@evilpig247 2 жыл бұрын
As a pleb who could only afford a M235i I have to say it's nice having accessibility into some of these performance lines and my particular case does have significant improvements over the standard 235i so it's not all just trim levels! A real E36 M3 is still my dream car though...
@owenhorvath8993
@owenhorvath8993 4 жыл бұрын
When Audi puts "quattro" on their cars is just how they label the car as AWD. And the "s" cars are still huge performance upgrades from their base counterparts. The s- line is the only thing Audi is at fault for.
@bosskake702
@bosskake702 4 жыл бұрын
INFINITI: S MEANS BIGGER RIMS AND A COOL BADGE
@jmathiz
@jmathiz 4 жыл бұрын
KAKE and maybe a 100 more horses if the S is red
@colindavy6357
@colindavy6357 4 жыл бұрын
bigger brakes but yeah I own Infiniti that's about
@bryant9443
@bryant9443 4 жыл бұрын
meh, a bit more than that, but nothing extravagant.
@notfried2004
@notfried2004 4 жыл бұрын
The Infiniti you'd want is called "RevUp". HR engines instead of DE.
@PatYouells
@PatYouells 4 жыл бұрын
Red edition or whatever its called is halfway decent
@kazimmohammedali7883
@kazimmohammedali7883 2 жыл бұрын
Love Donut Videos. I totally agree on this badge thing. Just one thing I disagree with, Merc doesn't really put the AMG Badge on the AMG line cars. Its literally just all aesthetics. only proper AMGs have the badge. I may just be biased since I work for the Merc Dealership but that's my two cents. Doesn't change the fact that all videos from you guys are AWESOME :)
@orange4530
@orange4530 2 жыл бұрын
"AMG line interior" includes AMG floor mats but yeah, AMG line is just for the looks
@mashrufanan50
@mashrufanan50 3 жыл бұрын
TRD:Am I a joke to you?
@johnlouiecruzado3627
@johnlouiecruzado3627 4 жыл бұрын
I remember my neighbor put a type R badge on his Hyundai and it’s been there for almost 5 years 😂
@furqanwajeeh897
@furqanwajeeh897 2 жыл бұрын
i have seen so many suzukis with type r badges, its hard to keep count
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 2 жыл бұрын
It's like putting a Marshall sign on an modeling amp, tongue in cheek.
@christopherchocolate69420
@christopherchocolate69420 2 жыл бұрын
Thats like putting an AMG badge on a Dodge
@de_nstream
@de_nstream 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherchocolate69420 or putting a nismo badge on an toyota vios
@Inferiis
@Inferiis Жыл бұрын
@@christopherchocolate69420 that's actually not that far off, when the new Challenger came out, it shared quite a few parts with some Mercs, especially suspension. p.s.: I was thinking just the other day if I should put a Type R badge on my 2000 HR-V. After all it has VTEC and is manual. It's also surprisingly quick up to 100-120 km/h, those 124 horses are buff, but above 120 the 5 gears and the big front kills it.
@chrisgonzalez1597
@chrisgonzalez1597 4 жыл бұрын
I just want a Mustang with the King Ranch trim.
@squeezingpilgrims7073
@squeezingpilgrims7073 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Gonzalez honestly that’s is a great idea!
@joelf1355
@joelf1355 4 жыл бұрын
How about a Camry TRD... oh wait it is a stripped down XSE with plastic.
@TrugginsOFFICIAL
@TrugginsOFFICIAL 4 жыл бұрын
That'd be dope actually
@Bandit-be7kp
@Bandit-be7kp 4 жыл бұрын
I want the f250 with GT California pack
@sk83rboi777
@sk83rboi777 4 жыл бұрын
@@joelf1355 Check out the 2020 Avalon TRD - it actually looks badass
@Burt1038
@Burt1038 3 жыл бұрын
I took my e46 325xi into a BMW dealership a few years ago for an airbag recall (only time I would ever set foot at a dealer TBH); the guy gave me a ride back home in an M-badged SUV and was trying to pitch it to me about how awesome it was. However after a few seconds and a couple of well-placed barbs he could tell I was getting visibly angry and he dropped the subject lol.
@bratwurst124
@bratwurst124 2 жыл бұрын
the BMW that was mentioned isnt as bad as it seems like. the regular 2 series has 184 HP while the shown m240i has 374 HP this is in my Oppinion a big difference. And completly fine if you dont want the stiffness of an M2 or M2 competition. The M package on the other hand is mostly a design thing if you like the looks of an M car. So if you know your BMWs its not instantly a scam if you see an M.
@trypprl467
@trypprl467 4 жыл бұрын
as the owner of a focus st, i had a mini heart attack when you mentioned st in the intro lmao
@GamingwithIinfected
@GamingwithIinfected 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh the Fiesta ST is one of my favorite cars to drive. And its cheap to boot. I didn't like the focus ST as much because of the weight. Also I think hes a little hard on the Edge ST as it has an engine option which is only available to ST and makes it quiet a bit quicker than the regular Edge ST. Not SRT grand cherokee vs regular difference but still
@Zeke19
@Zeke19 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingwithIinfected I think the engine in the edge st was previously available in the edge sport. I dont know for sure though.
@2_hotty
@2_hotty 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingwithIinfected I agree. Hopping in an Edge ST and being disappointed that it doesn't drive and handle like a Fiesta ST is 100% your fault.
@GamingwithIinfected
@GamingwithIinfected 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zeke19 No it wasn't the 2.7 ecoboost was essentially just a trim level.
@GamingwithIinfected
@GamingwithIinfected 4 жыл бұрын
@@2_hotty facts a 5000lb SUV wont handle a compact car. If when I got my SRT Jeep I expected it to drive like my Mustang I would've been disappointed
@anotherrandomcommenter4473
@anotherrandomcommenter4473 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Quattro was the 4WD system?
@dawoostarr
@dawoostarr 4 жыл бұрын
So did I , am I missing something
@davidmiletic6647
@davidmiletic6647 4 жыл бұрын
It is...
@hyphed4196
@hyphed4196 4 жыл бұрын
what he is trying to say it that audi put the quattro badge on some small cars in order to make buyers think, *oh, audi quattro? that super fast rally car? man i can't believe this tiny A3 is related to the audi Quattro.* in the end buyers assume they are buying some insane performing vehicle when actually it's just a awd/4wd system.
@dawoostarr
@dawoostarr 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's because Audi Quattro (AWD) vehicles were specifically made for rally racing and now they decided to mass produce standard 4 wheel drive cars/SUVs with a Quattro badge to show it's all wheel drive and the S line for performance models
@Zenzak35
@Zenzak35 4 жыл бұрын
yeah you're right, I agree with them saying that S-line cars are "rip-offs" but Quattro just means AWD/4WD, as Xdrive for BMWs or 4Matic for Mercs, and now it is named "Audi Sport GMBH" (since 2016), great research Donut Media.
@omargarcia6397
@omargarcia6397 2 жыл бұрын
I died with the gazoo cut🤣
@anruganm4235
@anruganm4235 2 жыл бұрын
the m240i in my opinion is a good lower m cr because of the affordability and the almost 150 hp boost
@wins10p40
@wins10p40 4 жыл бұрын
SLine is an option offered for dynamics in Audi. The “S” & “RS” badges are still boosts in performance with totally different engines
@bojanmajic
@bojanmajic 2 жыл бұрын
and I guess they named their AWD "quattro" so all AWD Audis are quattros...
@bruce_wayne1478
@bruce_wayne1478 Жыл бұрын
@@bojanmajic technically
@nicholasgindulis9894
@nicholasgindulis9894 Жыл бұрын
I haven't exactly kept up with all audi engines since I got rid of mine, but for a long time the a4 has the 2L turbo the s4 had a 3L supercharge and the rs had a twin turbo v8
@thekid2750
@thekid2750 9 ай бұрын
s4 still has the 2.0 i4, the s4 gets a 3.0 V6 Turbo now, and the rs4 now gets a 2.9 twin turbo charged V6@@nicholasgindulis9894
@headers12
@headers12 4 жыл бұрын
10:57 Whoa, North Korea disappeared Lol
@FEVERNOVAA
@FEVERNOVAA 4 жыл бұрын
Best korea*
@samthecar
@samthecar 4 жыл бұрын
@SolidSnakeOil Soon...
@raffaelemancini1543
@raffaelemancini1543 4 жыл бұрын
Congress is debating whether Trump should take credit or be blamed for this
@oddball_the_blue
@oddball_the_blue 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota have two tuning badges, there's also the SR line (my Granddad used to own a '77 Corolla SR which is a forgotten classic and still very pretty)
@QGamez-ej7nf
@QGamez-ej7nf 2 жыл бұрын
On the X5 for example, the regular V6 has 335, add the M package to it and it adds an extra 50 to 385
@QGamez-ej7nf
@QGamez-ej7nf 2 жыл бұрын
You also get the sporty M like look, the real Ms will always get the most
@nicholashsiung3282
@nicholashsiung3282 4 жыл бұрын
Y’all didn’t include F-sport and every single Lexus has a f-sport trim and has only better brake pads and stiffer suspension and looks
@RAID3R63
@RAID3R63 4 жыл бұрын
gx 460 does not include a fsport option nor the lx 570 or ls500
@fredwilliams7893
@fredwilliams7893 4 жыл бұрын
That still means a performance upgrade dip shit!
@nicholashsiung3282
@nicholashsiung3282 4 жыл бұрын
RAID3R63 they do offer it for the LS and the GX
@nicholashsiung3282
@nicholashsiung3282 4 жыл бұрын
Fred Williams in the context of the video f-sport fits to exactly to what the video talks about, it may offer a tiny barley recognizable performance bump.
@Frost640
@Frost640 4 жыл бұрын
@@RAID3R63 Funny enough the GX does have a F-sport spec, it's literally just a wheel option. I get about 1 a week at my dealership.
@haydenreece2482
@haydenreece2482 4 жыл бұрын
Y’all should do an episode on the c63
@_winter7745
@_winter7745 4 жыл бұрын
Just point and laugh at people driving them. Or, a guide on how to break a lease on a c63 LOL.
@VersanGetryx
@VersanGetryx 4 жыл бұрын
@@_winter7745 I've owned 3 of them and they were always super reliable and fun. Just ensure one gets a 2012+ version without the early headbolt issues. Their sound is incredible. I did end up going back to a BMW M Coupe though, much lighter!
@spiderjerusalem8284
@spiderjerusalem8284 4 жыл бұрын
Or the original C43.
@haydenreece2482
@haydenreece2482 4 жыл бұрын
VersanGetryx I own a 65k mile 08 , and I can say that the preface-lift gets a really bad reputation that is completely overinflated. I absolutely love the c63, and the m156 is intoxicating.
@haydenreece2482
@haydenreece2482 4 жыл бұрын
William Landen ok?
@CTRaptor
@CTRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Most underrated performance badges are VR4 and 2.5 limited
@KSErules
@KSErules 2 жыл бұрын
So I have an explorer st. With an upgraded intercooler and a tune these things run low 12s. With ethanol you can run mid 11s. There are a few of us closing in on 10s. With a 6 seater from Ford
@Zemu8
@Zemu8 4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a Nismo Juke at the dealership I laughed.... I almost test drove it to see how fast it was
@DavidBrownShred
@DavidBrownShred 4 жыл бұрын
I drive the Renaultsport clio that has the same 1.6L turbo out the nismo juke and it is pretty fast, unsure what the juke is like as it's a bit heavier but should still be quite quick
@Didbocb
@Didbocb 4 жыл бұрын
The Nissan Juke Nismo RS is ok, it's got 215 hp at 6k and 210 lb-ft. While the Sentra Nismo on the other hand has the exact same power output as the SR turbo. SMH, they have to make a RS version for the sentra, at least give it more than 200 hp for god's sake.
@mkl0011
@mkl0011 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there one that did a 3.5 or 3.9 0-60?
@_______3678
@_______3678 4 жыл бұрын
@@mkl0011 that was a special version with a gtr engine
@midgetspinner7007
@midgetspinner7007 4 жыл бұрын
@@_______3678 Was just about to say, don't confuse the Juke Nismo with the Juke R (the one with the GT-R engine)
@lincolnwhitlow9835
@lincolnwhitlow9835 4 жыл бұрын
I think Audi actually does 'performance' badges better than most brands. Clear tiers between A>S>RS and S Line to me implies that you get what most people notice from these higher end vehicles, without having to worry about more stringent upkeep
@olekasten6042
@olekasten6042 5 ай бұрын
Same opinion here. Audi kept it quite clean and found a way to make good extra bucks by offering a more sporty trim for normal cars. A S or RS Logo will only be found on the performance cars. On exterior and interior. Else it always states SLine without mentioning the specific car either. Biggest commitment goes actually to the RS exhaust which is always oval for like ever since the RS Models exist.
@skipthisnamething
@skipthisnamething 2 жыл бұрын
The Gazoo caught me off guard. Now I have a 2 sec. Kazoo skit playing in my head. WTF!!! LOL
@roadracing22
@roadracing22 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you try to keep them honest
@heyuonthewall26
@heyuonthewall26 4 жыл бұрын
Up to Speed on Audience Guy. I miss that dude. Hope he's OK.
@negativeindustrial
@negativeindustrial 4 жыл бұрын
Heath Northam Ugh. I’m glad he’s gone
@heyuonthewall26
@heyuonthewall26 4 жыл бұрын
Neg Ative oh I get it...Neg Ative. Negative. Cool.
@blackonblack...9244
@blackonblack...9244 4 жыл бұрын
Audience member is the best!
@CommanderKingpin
@CommanderKingpin 4 жыл бұрын
The m240 or m 340 are still a lot faster than the “normal” versions
@muddymann2007
@muddymann2007 4 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say...you have m sport trims but specific m 340 m 540 etc genuinely are proper faster cars
@johnomi
@johnomi 4 жыл бұрын
A LOT faster
@Alionn1
@Alionn1 4 жыл бұрын
lol m240 340 or whatever 40 are awesome cars and fast af
@jeffreyestlund7735
@jeffreyestlund7735 4 жыл бұрын
Literally has the same engine as the mk5 supra so it’s no slouch
@epandroid7440
@epandroid7440 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, Like 2020 M550i Xdrive 523 HP / 553 lb-ft Torque.
@khalidmohd8960
@khalidmohd8960 3 жыл бұрын
Less history lessons more up to date useful info. Great content tho, keep it up
@Jayaregularidiot
@Jayaregularidiot 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't the edge the kuga? That thing is quite popular is the uk and you see quite a few st's
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 4 жыл бұрын
Title: F sport for sure lol
@cristinarivas8520
@cristinarivas8520 4 жыл бұрын
Keye Haze Becky naw IS F is a beast
@rohaniyer7589
@rohaniyer7589 4 жыл бұрын
Cristina Rivas Ok, but on the other hand, the ES F-Sport is an aggressive luxury Camry
@Zarrex
@Zarrex 4 жыл бұрын
@@cristinarivas8520 ISF is not an F Sport. F and F Sport are different
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 4 жыл бұрын
Zarrex exactly
@SaggyPig
@SaggyPig 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Camaro RS is an honorable mention. It used to mean Rally Sport and now it means Really Slow.
@MrHenk588
@MrHenk588 3 жыл бұрын
The Quadrifoglio badge is still for the best of Alfa 🍀🥰
@notsaab
@notsaab 2 жыл бұрын
sadly they used to diluite the Quadrifoglio badge in the past with the Quadrifoglio Oro (golden), essentially a luxury trim that didn't do that much to improve the performance
@HAudiii
@HAudiii 3 жыл бұрын
Im in michigan and I cant leave my house without seeing an edge or explorer ST
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