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Which Pokémon Postgame would Rank Best in the Series?

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Emperor Cubone

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@sladevalen2120
@sladevalen2120 Жыл бұрын
HG/SS is the gold standard for what postgame in the pokemon series could be. Its depressing to see how after all these years we still havent seen a region be added into a postgame again, or fighting past protagonists as a final boss. Sinnoh being linked with Johto would've been a perfect time for that.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
True, but you could never JUST go back to Johto. If a Sinnoh game let you wander from Cianwood to Blackthorn people would ask "Why couldn't we go to Kanto!?" so maybe some other region one day. Perhaps visiting Alola in the Unova remakes, since 'Mercia?
@sladevalen2120
@sladevalen2120 Жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone the 4th of July expansion we've all been waiting for!
@andrewkatz6649
@andrewkatz6649 Жыл бұрын
Not that we needed it, but it would have been awesome to see the return of the Sinjoh Ruins in BDSP.
@HowManySmall
@HowManySmall Жыл бұрын
it's not, a quarter baked region doesn't substitute a good post game because the rest of the game suffered because of it the only good part is the blue fight and the red fight
@jayq2571
@jayq2571 Жыл бұрын
That alone why Johto as a whole is the worst region of all, main reason why the johto games are popular because kanto carried it.
@andrewkatz6649
@andrewkatz6649 Жыл бұрын
16:15 I cannot overstate how badly I want this to return. The DexNav is amongst my favorite mechanics from ORAS as we can see the Nav so we can recatch the same Pokémon over and over. This came in real handy with Pokémon like Eevee that have multiple forms and are rare encounters.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Oh Dexnav was amazing! Even letting know if they had rare egg moves, etc...
@christianlaringe1150
@christianlaringe1150 Жыл бұрын
​@@emperorcubonei actually don't like the egg moves part i think they're too easy to get now i think that those should be esclusive to bred pokemon
@SugarMeowYT
@SugarMeowYT Жыл бұрын
​@@christianlaringe1150theyve all hatched from an egg somewhere technically
@enoyna1001
@enoyna1001 Жыл бұрын
​@@SugarMeowYTWell, do you think new wild Pokémon appear out of nowhere? They mate. And apparently with other species, too.
@MegaSpideyman
@MegaSpideyman Жыл бұрын
Is there any need for it now we see Pokémon wandering everywhere?
@joltx9909
@joltx9909 Жыл бұрын
content wise bw2 will always be my first pick with HGSS right after, but gotta mention the rainbow rocket in ultra sun and moon - it was so fun, creative and suprisingly dark and I enjoyed every moment of it
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
I agree with these points!
@JtoTheKato
@JtoTheKato 6 ай бұрын
This is the correct answer in my opinion
@orestolszawki5690
@orestolszawki5690 Жыл бұрын
Emerald also has a opptional Steven fight, so you get to fight 2 chamions
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
...and Gym Leader rematches.
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 10 ай бұрын
BW2 has that too with Alder although he is much easier
@Mylifeisalie979
@Mylifeisalie979 4 ай бұрын
​@@Jdudec367 it also has the champion that gave everyone nightmares as a secret boss
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 4 ай бұрын
@@Mylifeisalie979 true lol
@juggertr0ll
@juggertr0ll Жыл бұрын
As much as I love the Delta Episode, I've played through ORAS too many times so until the ending it feels like "fly here and talk to him, fly here and battle her" over and over. That being said I do love it
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
I feel like that's a problem too many impose on themselves, thinking they MUST do the story immediately instead of going to catch a Legend or two in between. That being said if you wait too long you can forget where you had to go, so...
@juggertr0ll
@juggertr0ll Жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone A big part of how I like to play Pokémon is catching as many as I can and doing Catch Em Alls so I always explore most routes thoroughly
@harrypsfoodreviews9661
@harrypsfoodreviews9661 Жыл бұрын
Fair, but Deoxys is in my top 5 favorite mons of all time, so being able to finally catch one was wild for me
@WardofSquid
@WardofSquid Жыл бұрын
Bro did Emerald dirty.😂 It definitely deserved much higher than my opinion. Don't forget the gym rematches were in that too.
@lipika2841
@lipika2841 Жыл бұрын
B&W2's postgame is probably the most enjoyable for me. Rematching significant characters like Cynthia, N, Hugh, Colress, former rivals Cheren & Bianca? Check. A side activity in Pokestar studios that lets u make wacky & fun movies (& depending on ur performance can have different endings)? Check. Combat gaunlets (of which there're 4 of 'em in Pwt, subway, institute & white tree/black tower)? Double check. It just provides close to everything what I want & do after credits roll. Not to mention all the optional content available during the main game that u may have forgotten to do or skipped out on.
@charcolttheone3492
@charcolttheone3492 Жыл бұрын
Platinum and Black and White 2 have superb postgame
@brxtndog
@brxtndog Жыл бұрын
Emerald also has the johto addition to the safari zone which is a fun surprise as well as the smearhle cave and sudowoodo easter egg in the battle frontier which is reall cool in my opinion
@jonahdengler3858
@jonahdengler3858 Жыл бұрын
I’m mostly just training various species of my Pokémon to level 100 during the post-games of my 3 DS/3DS device games and my Switch game.
@dracojoule
@dracojoule Жыл бұрын
I really think the Sinnoh post game is incredibly underrated. Considering you have a whole post game island to explore with its own quest, the battle frontier, your own villa to upgrade, full gym leader and elite four rematches. You also have the underground and contests which have a lot of replayability.
@vishal.v10g35
@vishal.v10g35 4 ай бұрын
black 2 and white 2 had great postgame , the pokemon world tournament , pokestar studios, the black tree tower and white tree hollow , battle subway , the medal rally it was the best imo
@JustJulyo
@JustJulyo Жыл бұрын
Platinum having you buy a Villa was my introduction to an Animal Crossing like experience
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Hah, that's so true; it's a great comparison!
@pokemania6494
@pokemania6494 Жыл бұрын
I am still surprised that looker hasn't been seen since gen 7
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
As I was compiling the list I was thinking the exact same thing! Dude was a staple in postgame content for generations! How are they gonna just drop him like that?
@bryanwharton6692
@bryanwharton6692 Жыл бұрын
Great video! The PWT was so fun. As a middle school/high school student learning the piano and music theory, I loved all of the remixes of the gym leaders themes. I loved learning how to play the gen 5 songs on piano.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
That would great to play all those on piano! It's pure musical genius!
@whisperofthebookworm5341
@whisperofthebookworm5341 Жыл бұрын
Although I would place BW2 over USUM, I gotta respect the rainbow rocket thing. Giving Ghetsis a chance to try and assault a child again is brave. Edit: FOR THE 3RD TIME
@luckyn4t0r
@luckyn4t0r Жыл бұрын
I honestly think I was kinda blessed with ORAS. They were my favourite games growing up and i replayed them so much. But also being able to trade all mons via internet and collect all of the legendaries was just such a joy to do. I even caught my first few shinies there (first was the Luxray in my profile pic) with the dexnav and it was so much fun. Truly love these games.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
This is all me, but for HGSS!
@MustacheDLuffy
@MustacheDLuffy Жыл бұрын
My problem with the legendary’s was the fact they didn’t give them any special encounters . I like their addition but didn’t feel like they belong there
@anny8720
@anny8720 2 ай бұрын
Gen 6 made breeding and trading so fun since it was so easy do it. I remember doing giveaways of my breedjects and even using google translate to ask people in japan to hatch my eggs since you could do the homebrew egg id checking trick to hatch shinies if you found the matching trainer id
@TaleOfTheToaster
@TaleOfTheToaster Жыл бұрын
The Pokémon game with the best post game is Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Haha, well I was only looking at mainline games, but you have a point!
@FizzikkOfficial
@FizzikkOfficial Жыл бұрын
I only played part of Explorers of Time because I was younger but I did play all of Rescue Team DX and it was kind of a short story and a super repetitive post-game... Is Explorers of Sky just more dungeons in the post-game?
@mathewgonzalez4153
@mathewgonzalez4153 Жыл бұрын
@@FizzikkOfficialpost game is the extended main story basically and TONS of new dungeons, also insane plots twist at the end
@brandoncusick6219
@brandoncusick6219 Жыл бұрын
I’m happy to hear someone speak so highly of US/UM. According to Nintendo’s sales reports, USUM did the worst in sales. From XY’s release in 2013 to SWSH’s release in 2019, USUM did the worst and I took that to believe that people liked the originals. I was baffled by that because I feel like USUM offers more context during both the main game and the post game
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Don't take it personally, the third games ALWAYS do worse than the originals, and the second generation on the same console always does worse too; Gen 5 was less than Gen 4, Gen 7 less than Gen 6, etc...
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
Most people admit that US/UM are clearly the better games. It's just that regular S/M came out first, while the Ultra versions aren't different enough from the original versions for most players who already bought S/M to then "double-dip" on the new releases, even compared to Yellow, Emerald, Platinum, and maybe even Crystal. Releasing them as a pair of updated games instead of a single third version also didn't help with the marketing. Personally, I would've done the same had I not been lucky enough to hold off on my purchase of a Gen 7 game until after the Ultra versions had been announced.
@brandoncusick6219
@brandoncusick6219 Жыл бұрын
@@Compucles I agree they are better. You’re probably right about S/M having more attention because they came first. If I remember correctly, they came out the same year as the 20th anniversary. So that’s probably why they gained so much attention. But I also agree that two versions instead of a single, definitive version doesn’t help.
@oscarzxn4067
@oscarzxn4067 Жыл бұрын
I personally didn't buy it because I felt it could have been DLC and seemed a bit like a scam to me
@brandoncusick6219
@brandoncusick6219 Жыл бұрын
@@oscarzxn4067 I bought them because I’m that kind of fan 🤣. I’ll admit I bought the Let’s Go games just so I wouldn’t feel like I missed something. I think USUM should’ve came first. I feel like it had more to offer and it just seems more vibrant than the first game
@arrowblade_1238
@arrowblade_1238 Жыл бұрын
The emerald battle frontier is the largest battle frontier and has some of the best battle facilities of all the introduced battle facilities.
@SJrad
@SJrad Жыл бұрын
Oras also is one of the best shiny hunting experiences. a good variety of shiny hunting methods, some involving a little bit of skill instead of pure luck. pair that with the poke radar and friend safari from X and Y, and you’ve got the best generation for shiny hunting
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Did some great chain fishing then!
@5ashll303
@5ashll303 Жыл бұрын
I think gen 7 has a decent post game. Not the best or the worst. But still fun and gives you some things to do.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
For the Ultra games I definitely agree! For the originals, they could've just used a bit more Alola specific activities besides the things everyone has like the Dex, or shiny hunting, etc...
@5ashll303
@5ashll303 Жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone I was more taking about the originals, but I get what you mean. Maybe expanded battle royal or poke finder would have been interesting or even a fifth island, but idk, I’m glad it at least has something as opposed to sword, scarlet and X.
@mastergreeen1385
@mastergreeen1385 Жыл бұрын
​@emperorcubone EC, I feel like you ignored/brushed over the part of the Alola postgame that comes before all of the Battle Tree stuff, and that is the various paths and areas that open up on Poni Island which all end up at the Battle Tree; those postgame locations are particularly important for completing the Zygarde cell/Totem sticker side-quests and since you brought up similar points in favor for Sinnoh and Unova
@email.164
@email.164 9 ай бұрын
DLC ITS NOT POST GAME...
@redhead_bebs
@redhead_bebs Жыл бұрын
I love the X & Y Looker story!!! 😥 Emma is one of my favorite Pokémon characters.
@micycles1200
@micycles1200 Жыл бұрын
I spent most of my free time in ORAS's postgame when I was in high school. It was just so good. That was the only game I ever tried to complete to Pokedex in. The DexNav made it super easy, soaring was awesome and the best way to fly, the legendary encounters were awesome, and I even tried my hand at competitive battling because of all the experience I kept gaining. The Delta episode however, was the best part of the whole thing. I don't really care much for Zinnia, but man I appreciate that she has a story for you to explore. Also that little bit with Looker at the Battle Resort foreshadowing Sun and Moon was really cool. Hoenn has always been my favorite region, ever since I first played Emerald. I really wish that we did get a Delta Emerald, but either way ORAS - and even gen 6 as a whole - was a special time for me despite everyone's criticism. I understand the frustration but personally, it was awesome.
@koltensmith3974
@koltensmith3974 Жыл бұрын
Platinum also gives you the distortion world. You get all three legendary box arts. Emerald gives you all three legendary exclusives. You can pick which lati you want.
@Snqwy
@Snqwy Жыл бұрын
I love that in recent years Gen 5 is getting more of the attention it deserves. Unova used to be criminally underrated, and I still find myself playing White & White 2 on my original system.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
I still prefer Gens 4, 6, or 7 but Gen 5 still has its moments.
@Snqwy
@Snqwy Жыл бұрын
​@@emperorcuboneI can understand, since I've played through all of those games too, and have enjoyed each one. Each region has it's own merits, but for me Unova is a place I'd like to call home.
@Snqwy
@Snqwy Жыл бұрын
By the way, keep up the good work! Your videos are great!
@FizzikkOfficial
@FizzikkOfficial Жыл бұрын
I've learned so much from this video! There are so many cool things I had no idea were in some of these games! Even though i've played all these games, it still feels like I have a whole generation to go back and play! This was a really cool and intresting video, thanks! I also found myself agreeing with almost all your opinions so this was also kind of relatable.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could shine a light on some of the secrets!
@timurtheking
@timurtheking Жыл бұрын
Why was SV postgame so high? Imo its postgame is worse than X/Y story/stuff to do wise same with SM
@MaxWelton
@MaxWelton 5 ай бұрын
7:28 it’s so dumb that you have to unlock trading with your friends in the postgame tho
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 Жыл бұрын
The Delta Episode, nuff said
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
For real!
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 Жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone it’s just too good
@michaelnelson1127
@michaelnelson1127 Жыл бұрын
The cutscene where Rayquaza takes you into space to destroy the meteor is EPIC!
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelnelson1127 indeed
@sigiligus
@sigiligus Жыл бұрын
Nah, it was super lame. Terrible characters, basic backtracking and joke battles, and worst of all they ruined an actually great area (Sky Pillar) and turned it into a glorified ladder full of poorly written exposition.
@ThibsyCube
@ThibsyCube Жыл бұрын
Even though Ruby and Sapphire are my favorite games, I have to say that you ranked it to high. You can catch the Regi’s before the pokemon league so it is just Latios/latias, beldum, Rayquaza and battle tower. Love your content! Great video as usual
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm just glad people can be mad at you now instead of me, cause there are some serious Hoenn diehards out there...
@7GSC251
@7GSC251 Жыл бұрын
having a jhoto kanto unova side by side would be completely insane, thats like 40 towns and 28 badges
@bybookandbone
@bybookandbone 10 ай бұрын
While I love gen 2 (my og gen), I found X & Y's postgame more full of stuff to do. Just wish there was a full battle frontier. The Maison isn't bad though
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone 10 ай бұрын
In Kalos I mostly just went back and battled the rich trainers in the facility next to the daycare. It wasn't hard and they gave out lots of money; of course that's not postgame except for the Elite Four being there, but that's where I spent most of my postgame anyway...
@bybookandbone
@bybookandbone 10 ай бұрын
@@emperorcubone I spent a lot of time in Lumiose. There's a ton of little things to do, like working in the hotel and of course the Looker storyline.
@No__direction__
@No__direction__ Жыл бұрын
I personally love little side quests in the post game. Preferably a lot of them. Also they should be well thought out and interesting. *Not all side quests are created equally.*
@enigmatic2878
@enigmatic2878 Жыл бұрын
The last part about HGSS almost sounded like an actual advertisement for the games
@darkserpentcat3309
@darkserpentcat3309 Жыл бұрын
I remember when I finished Sapphire version when I was a kid, and was wondering why we weren’t given access to Jhoto like we had Kanto in the previous gen. I know it won’t happen but I just wish that Game Freak would do another generation where we can travel back and see the changes in a previous region. Granted, preferably without relying too much on such access like I heard a lot of people say about Jhoto.
@Oakesyrules
@Oakesyrules Жыл бұрын
I feel Emerald and the battle frontier should be higher. They offer you challenges in different ways. You had the pyramid which was an edurance run, making you value moves to keep you healthy more and attacks with les power but more pp. The battle factory you had to be tactical and use what you were offered in rental pokemon, requiring of you a good understanding of pokemon and their stats and what you were lacking and what could help going forward. I will admit the others were more standard affairs, where you could win with regular tactics, but I've not come across much in the series that challenges me in a way as removed from regular play or competative play as the frontier. Plus there are all the contests, another way to make you build and riase pokemon in a different way, using different moves and synergies. And all the secret bases for fun and ways to express yourself. Emerald may be weaker in terms of postagme story and catching and legendaries, but they never were that appealing to me. You find the legend, you do that status move, you weaken it, then you sit there throwing ball after ball until it works, then move onto the next
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
I guess that's just not something that appeals to everyone; I know I'm not the only person that thinks, "If I'm gonna do so many hours of battling I want something to show for it." Even if that's just a level 100 Pokemon, that seems better than renting Pokemon I can't actually keep...
@igorlopes8463
@igorlopes8463 Жыл бұрын
The Kanto part of HGSS and the Rainbow Rocket attack in USUM are the only post games that I make sure to finish when replaying a game.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Delta Episode is worth it too, if for no other reason than the free Deoxys!
@the_spaggot3148
@the_spaggot3148 Жыл бұрын
Facts like kanto doesn't even feel like a post game to me, it just feels like the second half
@eliserss
@eliserss 3 ай бұрын
thank you for giving usum some love :) nobody every appreciates the amazing post game it has which is a shame considering it's my comfort game
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone 3 ай бұрын
I truly think if there had been 1 game in-between the Alola entirs, (like Sinnoh remakes, etc.) USUM would be heralded as some of the greatest games of all time!
@eliserss
@eliserss 3 ай бұрын
@@emperorcubone agreed! i think it'll take some time but eventually the nostalgia will settle on older games and people will start seeing games more objectively... i remember when i got into the community everyone hated gens 4 and 5 (except for hgss, they were always loved) and nowadays they are considered the best while the dust has settled on the first 3 gens i'd say. i can't wait for that to happen to the 3ds entries since they are often overlooked!
@boredcommenter67
@boredcommenter67 Жыл бұрын
I remember putting in so much work to get the free gen 1 and 3 starters in hgss. It's probably one of my all time favorites with gen 5 and 9. ORAS though was probably the best done game in the series preswitch. Devnav was just wonderful.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
This all sounds about right!
@droycon
@droycon 4 ай бұрын
So glad that new post game content seems to only be dlc now. Very happy to pay even more for an unfinished game
@droycon
@droycon 4 ай бұрын
(did not actually buy the new Pokémon games lol)
@joopvanhedel1372
@joopvanhedel1372 Жыл бұрын
You can also re-battle the team star members as many times as you like
@KimchiFarts
@KimchiFarts Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe a PokéTuber has the courage to call Emerald post-game mid. I agree, but you’re a brave solid for that lol
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
I guess by definition it is in the very middle, but as good as the whole game is the Battle Frontier is overblown...
@shadowdragon714
@shadowdragon714 Жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone i think what does it for people, myself included, is the variety OF said battes. HGSS has a breat battle tower but its just SIMPLE BATTLING. like a boss rush kinda. where Emerald has what 8 building with a unique and mandatory way of HOW to battle. i think that point gets glossed over too easily. true it may not be for everyone, but for battle junkies, its the variety that does it for us.
@charliez077
@charliez077 11 ай бұрын
@@emperorcubone late reply - overblown is HIGHLY subjective lol. I spent INSANE amount of time in Battle Frontier and it was some of the best time spent in ANY pokégame by far. an absolute paradise for a competitive player (and eaaasy Top 3 postgame, insane to put it any lower quite frankly)
@AznYunHou
@AznYunHou Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate when you think about it, ORAS being the best remakes cause it offers so much content and allowing Gen 6 to possibly finish the entire Pokedex easily.
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
They may technically have more content, but they sacrificed most of the improvements from Emerald to do it! I don't just mean the Battle Frontier but also stuff like the extra story elements like with the Team Magma hideout and the incredible showdown in Sootopolis with Rayquaza descending to break up the fight, as well as the Gym Leader rematches, and a few other things.
@MrBrewskiDrewski
@MrBrewskiDrewski Жыл бұрын
I’ve actually never been able to beat my copy of Soul Silver before. It’s a shame I’ve missed out on such an amazing postgame. Since the man himself was flabbergasted, I shall explain myself. I have always chose Meganium, which puts me at an immediate disadvantage. After that I always think I have a pretty balanced team, but I always end up being roadblocked by Claire, then completely stonewalled by the elite 4 after the fact. Now I am no Pokémon novice. I’ve beaten most of the games I’ve played. But for some reason, (probably Meganium) Johto has always been my Achilles Heel.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Seriously? I've played through mine at least a dozen times!
@vaporterra
@vaporterra Жыл бұрын
What’s giving you trouble? If you have a balanced team you’ll have enough coverage to beat the elite four
@david8dzg
@david8dzg Жыл бұрын
The level grind is hard
@snomfrompokemon2496
@snomfrompokemon2496 Жыл бұрын
My first pokemon game was HeartGold, where I only leveled up my Typhlosion, so I got road blocked by Clair. I had to make the executive decision a few years back to finally delete the save (which had my first and ONLY shiny Pokemon), so I could actually beat the game 😔
@MaxWelton
@MaxWelton 5 ай бұрын
10:34 it helps that catching em all in PLA is actually, you know, possible without trading
@Makocat
@Makocat Жыл бұрын
The fact of the matter is, post game has been relegated to dlc now. The same will happen to SV once dlc comes out it will have post game staples like SwSh did. Too bad.
@reesh2257
@reesh2257 Жыл бұрын
BDSP had so much potential with giratina but.... Here we are
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
I think everyone was looking to past reamles for their expectations when we really should've been looking at the other remakes on Switch, cause BDSP was much closer to Let's Go...
@RoseSupreme
@RoseSupreme Жыл бұрын
They really dropped the ball. Nobody wants "faithful" remakes. They want changes, improvements and expansions to the stories they once knew to make them the definitive ways to experience those regions. BDSP did the bare minimum. HGSS and ORAS are prime examples of what to do with remakes.
@mabs6253
@mabs6253 Жыл бұрын
BDSP had so much potential* There I fixed it
@vaporterra
@vaporterra Жыл бұрын
@@RoseSupremePeople do want faithful to a degree. As in it captures the same vibe while improving on the original. BDSP only accomplished the former
@RoseSupreme
@RoseSupreme Жыл бұрын
@@vaporterra Yeah. And that's what the most beloved remakes achieved with both the former and latter.
@MaxWelton
@MaxWelton 5 ай бұрын
15:04 the feature I miss most from ΩRαS is rematching regular trainers. I am baffled at how rare that mechanic is.
@MaxWelton
@MaxWelton 5 ай бұрын
17:57 plus Steven shows up with the Hoenn starters
@MaxWelton
@MaxWelton 5 ай бұрын
10:37 PLA has the best postgame story but it’s kinda cheating since it’s the true climax of the plot and the game rolls credits in a place that leaves a lot of questions unanswered. Even worse, the timing of the credits rolling meant some players simply stopped there and didn’t get their questions answered or their minds blown.
@lancerzmom
@lancerzmom Жыл бұрын
I spent so much time in HGSS that I have more memories of playing the post game than the main game. As for Platinum, there is so much content that the strategy guide could probably be used as a lethal weapon. I used to think XY had the best post game, but after seeing this video I kind of agree it was lacking compared to the likes of HGSS and ORAS. I don’t think it’s one of the worst though.
@laeb08
@laeb08 Жыл бұрын
I loved Emerald and HG/SS's post game
@ericwijaya2119
@ericwijaya2119 Жыл бұрын
I will never not refer to SM'd postgame as anything more than birdwatching, which is why I prefer USUM overall as a game. Say what you will about the story at least the postgame exists.
@reviewer945
@reviewer945 6 ай бұрын
I like that Gen 5 was high up that said I think the Gen 4 games (excluding Legends Arceus if that counts) have a worse Post Game then the Gen 1 Remakes (not the originals) because you have to complete the Pokedex to get most of it. At least Let's Go lets you battle the Gym Leaders again easily and lets you fly on Pokemon like Charizard.
@bladelores666
@bladelores666 Жыл бұрын
emerald battle frontier is one of the best pieces of content in any video game ever imo
@alexthoman96
@alexthoman96 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always
@hamkyo07
@hamkyo07 Жыл бұрын
X Y Looker post game story, left a great impression on me. It was a great, sadly short, good moment. Buy agree the rest wasn't that great
@vergolophus
@vergolophus Жыл бұрын
I have a soft spot for SM original Post Game. I know USUM is gameplay wise much better and had a full nostalgic villain group meeting and probably had way more to do, but the extra story of vanilla SM and how it connected to Ultra Wormholes, Mohn, UBs, the tradition of Looker cameos, etc was wonderful.
@thpolar3887
@thpolar3887 Жыл бұрын
Emerald has the best post-game. Why? The sheer variety of challenges in the battle frontier. All the other battle frontiers are just too straightforward. Plus it is fun. I spent more hours playing the emerald post-game than all other games combined.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Okay but help me out; like I said I didn't really play it much so what does "variety" mean? Is there more to do than just battling or is it like, this one does double battles, etc...
@daniaaal
@daniaaal Жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone basically for people who love pokemon for battling, Emerald is high on the list because it provides variety on the challenges related to battle. I personally have spent 800 hours on Emerald, mostly thanks to Battle Frontier. It's basically the thrill of getting post-game Pokemon gym badges, but with a far higher difficulty. I've levelled up several of my pokemon to lvl 100 precisely because I want them to be used in the Battle Frontier. The satisfaction of beating a Frontier Brain is unlike any other.
@MissStarryDay
@MissStarryDay Жыл бұрын
@@daniaaalI miss breeding and training Pokemon to level 50 or 100 just for the frontier - breeding Pokémon with specific natures for the auto battle facility, putting together multiple of the same Pokémon with specific move sets for the other facilities, training up a Linoone for pickup in the Pyramid, etc.
@PlainStreetPro
@PlainStreetPro Жыл бұрын
I loved the Looker sidequests so much I replayed the game to do them again
@colinvandenberg3446
@colinvandenberg3446 Жыл бұрын
1 say 1. Delta Episode 2. Opporation Rainbow Rocket 3. Seven Sages/Alder, 4. Kanto League if you want to count it as postgame, and after that it's not really worth it.
@TipsySpinda
@TipsySpinda Жыл бұрын
I started with Silver Version! The post game is what sold me on being a life-long fan. White 2's PWT IS MY FAVORITE
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Yeah, a game like that will draw you in for sure!
@kylebrandon4556
@kylebrandon4556 Жыл бұрын
I like oras post game the best since gen 3 is my favorite
@atriso7804
@atriso7804 12 күн бұрын
Challenge Mode made Black 2 & White 2 easier bc the mode didn’t scale the stats of the opposing trainers’ mons So they had the higher lvls but still had the same stats from the Normal Difficulty
@renshipeter157
@renshipeter157 Жыл бұрын
What are you considering the fine line of post game starting? At first I thought it was credits rolling but then you talked about Legends Arceus. The Volo missions and the Giratina Mystery happen after the credits of that game but you didn't mention it.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Well sure, I didn't hit every single point in every postgame, but the credits rolling was pretty much the defining line...
@k2basior
@k2basior Жыл бұрын
I think you overlooked Let's Go a bit, you have both GL and E4 Rematches with updated Teams.
@billalzerouali4436
@billalzerouali4436 Жыл бұрын
Honestly not having a battle tower should make scarlet and violet way lower
@tyrantneptune3202
@tyrantneptune3202 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the first YT tierlist vid where I agree with every single ranking o_0
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
That's quite a feat! I'm impressed...
@genarftheunfuni5227
@genarftheunfuni5227 Жыл бұрын
Personally I wouldn't have counted event Pokemon in older games as postgame because, even though yeah they add neat new areas sometimes, their access was very limited and nowadays, those areas will no longer be accessed unless you cheat your way to them. And as one of my personal standards goes, it's not cool when a game forces you to cheat/glitch your way to freedom.
@Flamelance_Accendo
@Flamelance_Accendo 7 ай бұрын
@15:10 I feel like this is not a good excuse for ORAS to not have the Battle Frontier. Solely because they opened up with more lore on Rayquaza and gave it a Mega Evolution. It was like they expanded on Emerald, in ORAS, through the Delta Episode.
@MaxWelton
@MaxWelton 5 ай бұрын
12:19 too bad the Red battle is locked behind weeks’ worth of level grinding
@errorbirdesther
@errorbirdesther Жыл бұрын
I did find the ace tournament in scarlet and violet to be neat Cause I did wonder what kind of pokemon teams would the teachers have
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's just weird your teachers out of class though...
@errorbirdesther
@errorbirdesther Жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone well I like to think it's their break Like they take a break from teaching to have battles with their students
@ghartman56
@ghartman56 Жыл бұрын
I would put Emerald a little higher and ORAS a little lower, but solid reasoning overall.
@kevandre
@kevandre Жыл бұрын
I genuinely love the swsh post-game lol. I generally don't bother with Pokémon post-game but I've done swsh's multiple times
@kevandre
@kevandre Жыл бұрын
I'm with you about the battle frontier. I've never cared about it, played it for a little while then just said "this isn't fun" and stopped
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
I would've loved to learn why people love the Battle Frontier so much, but instead they just insulted me calling me dumb, and didn't explain any reasons for it other than "strategy." Like I can't do that and actually keep my Pokemon at the same time?
@SoulSurvivor14
@SoulSurvivor14 15 күн бұрын
Emerald that low is criminal. For exactly the reason you said it would be. Pure bias lol
@Shou_22
@Shou_22 Жыл бұрын
HGSS still has the best postgame content in a pokemon game... -Second region to explore -Battle frontier -poke-athelon -Mt. silver -Gym leader rematches with stronger pokemon -Final battle with Red ORAS with the delta episode and B2W2 for the world championships... Which i wish return to BW remake...
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
An updated PWT with the gym leaders from all 9 or 10 generations (whenever the remakes come out) would be insane! I don't know if they'd go that far though...
@stargazer99
@stargazer99 Жыл бұрын
The issue I have with newer Pokémon games is the more recent post game reliance on expecting people to just keep fighting raids… it didn’t make me stick around (until the dlc came out) in sword and shield and it’s not entertaining enough to keep me entertained in Scarlett and violet either. Not to mention the lack of the cities not feeling alive even more than ever…. As apart from the overarching triple storylines which I did enjoy in the main game there was basically NO side content that was considerable in the base game so that makes me dissatisfied with the post game. At least in sword and shield the towns feel somewhat alive(for the most part).
@lorddracon8992
@lorddracon8992 11 ай бұрын
I definitely feel like the reason the emerald battle frontier is the best is because there was 7 battle facilities instead of 5 or 1 like the following games plus it's the only one that appeared in the anime
@BaithNa
@BaithNa Жыл бұрын
Gen 8 had a great post game because it was all about getting you into competitive play.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Ah, well see there's the disconnect; the game should be about playing the game! Not using it as a means to an end, and a great many players have never even tried a competitive battle, so when that's all you're offering it's going to turn some people off...
@saiyan4414
@saiyan4414 Жыл бұрын
crazy thing is most people didn't know you could catch both legendaries in Gold and Silver and the remakes.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Right? How is that not a selling point for them? Every other game forces you to choose between the Pokemon on the box, even Kanto!
@sladevalen2120
@sladevalen2120 Жыл бұрын
I still remember being a little kid and watching my friend catch Lugia. After a few days of wandering Kanto I went to see if I could do the same. I panicked immediately when I saw not only could I catch him but he was lv 70!
@jjnix9517
@jjnix9517 Жыл бұрын
Scarlet and vilots variation of the following mechanic needs work, so does the new breeding mechanic. I'm hoping the dlc comes out with some sort of expansion for them.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Oh I'm with you, I hate the new breeding method!
@cancerstinks1
@cancerstinks1 Жыл бұрын
I’m still sad Looker didn’t have an appearance in Gen 8 and it looks like Gamefreak is retiring him 😢
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Unless he pops up in the Teal Mask, he'll be absent since 2017!
@VitaEmerald324
@VitaEmerald324 Жыл бұрын
Routes 17 and 18 are actually available once you get Surf in BW
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
True, but how many people bother going back before they've pressed through to the end?
@iuxbaesuzystan
@iuxbaesuzystan Жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone If they wanted Larvesta on their main team.
@Roddan96
@Roddan96 8 ай бұрын
I would argue the post game to the GBA games were the Stadium games. This would also equate to DLC back in the 90's.
@Theson97
@Theson97 Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with him on emerald's battle frontier. Sure it's hyped a lot but it's for a reason. It would be at least in my top 5 maybe 3 on this list.
@dychrisshandonsmith1242
@dychrisshandonsmith1242 Жыл бұрын
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@LycanMOON
@LycanMOON Жыл бұрын
The fact that scarvio is above sun and moon I find it more bland,but moon was my first mainline game so I might just have nastolgia
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
I've never heard it called "Scarvio" before, that sounds pretty cool!
@Akatsukileader9
@Akatsukileader9 Жыл бұрын
Wait but half the islands in FR/LG are before the post game, it should count only half as much.
@Garde_Mystik
@Garde_Mystik Жыл бұрын
Glad more people acknowledge ORAS has more postgane than Emerald, but also, Super Secret Bases are insane. You get to encounter new bases each day and battle whatever the heck Pokémon possible from Bulbasaur to Diancie
@Audiatrix
@Audiatrix Жыл бұрын
WAIT REALLY black 2 has a hard mode! Ok im going back to that game asap but I have to admit oras is. My favorite game its firstly my favorite region so bias i know but its post game really is amazing. Great list I don't think it could fault it 1 bit. You done well to plan this out l.
@criixt
@criixt Жыл бұрын
"Post game" for gen 1 was definitely getting the link cable and having pokemon battles. Dont forget the missingno. glitch, glitch city. Those were definitely fun to do as a kid.
@toadhoward3954
@toadhoward3954 Жыл бұрын
I really liked the writing in the X and Y postgame
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Me too! I just wish there were more of it!
@redrazorx-23
@redrazorx-23 Жыл бұрын
You also get a hoenn starter as well as a kanto starter in HG/SS. I just remembered you get a bunch of starters in OR/AS as well.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Unova starters in ORAS were particularly nice!
@redrazorx-23
@redrazorx-23 Жыл бұрын
@@emperorcubone when I got to choose a Unova starter, it genuinely surprised me because I didn’t expect it. I chose Oshawott by the way.
@memeclub1846
@memeclub1846 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I think that you'll be rating scarlet and violet much lower in a few years. I enjoyed playing them, but after I beat them I stopped playing. I'm not a fan of raids, and I found the battle tower and battle cafés in sw/sh much more fun. Overall, this vid makes me want to replay the older games to see if they live up
@Pledditor
@Pledditor 2 ай бұрын
Did he mention fire red and leaf green? I know they are gen 1 remakes, but still more expansive and deserving of their own mention
@triforceofcourage100
@triforceofcourage100 Жыл бұрын
Gonna be frankly honest I actually hate those battle areas (frontier,maison, etc.). It’s not because of difficulty but because so items and tms are exclusives to them. I have had to dump entire potential team members because most of what I would have wanted to use them for is locked behind post game content instead of just placed in the world. I plan out my teams and held items meticulously and it infuriates me when I have to drop someone just because gamefreak couldn’t just litter the tms throughout the plentiful gameworlds instead of locking them away. Also never been one for post games I’m here for a story anything beyond that is a general waste of my time unless it’s just that good take Xenoblade Chronicles 3 or Tales of Arise for example more lore and a little more story.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
The only reason I played the Battle Tower in Gen 4 was for the TMs. But now I just play through SoulSilver over and over to get a new cycle of TMs each time. It's more fun, and possibly faster...
@daxmoney5011
@daxmoney5011 Жыл бұрын
HG/SS. You could debate Black and white 2 but the content in that game is just undefeated. A whole other region,Safari zone,pal park,Battle Frontier,over 15 legendary Pokémon,GB sounds (gold and silver soundtrack) and so much more.
@emperorcubone
@emperorcubone Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more, on all fronts!
@NGL_Shinhok1
@NGL_Shinhok1 11 ай бұрын
In my Omega Ruby playthrough, I took like a 6-8hr break before the Victory Road just to explore Soar better and to spice things up, I'm planning on catching Pokémon on routes and trying to locate more of the legends along with the Delta Episode.
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