Dewalt has a little one like the ryobi with only 2 USB ports and a flash light!

Brings back memories in engineering school we used the 555 timer chip quite a bit especially for generating clocking signals in synchronization of different clock speeds from different inputs

@@jeffostroff Yes, I might have taken the same classes. Great stuff, still prototype circuits once in awhile.

Excellent! Way to go Warmonger

Great point! I was constantly disappointed by dewalt on this test. Almost wondering if I got a bum unit.

Awesome way to use all your batteries!

You are welcome!

Did you use the warranty on it?

Wow a heater running off of batteries would probably only last a few minutes

Milwaukee makes heated jackets that use their m12 battery.

Just purchased the Ryobi 40v inverter and I hope it’s as good as the Ryobi 18v has inverter.

I would have liked to have gotten one of those to test but I know the video was going to drag on too long

Very cool!

That is awesome do you have a part number you could post here for us?

@@jeffostroff MT20ML from XUNBAO. I bought it on Amazon. They come in all flavors but you have to be careful when ordering. It can be confusing to get the proper adapter. If you want a Dewalt batt to work a Ryobi you need to make sure the Dewalt is on the battery side of the adapter as they make it in the reverse too. You can buy a Ryobi adapter to work Dewalt but they are not the same adapter if that makes sense.

@@jeffostroff - the description section of this video link has all sorts of battery adapters for mix and matching brands of tools and batteries. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7Ojps6d39WmcZ8.html

I am on the Dewalt platform but definitely want and need that Milwaukee battery converter. Too bad Dewalt doesn’t make them.

@@dropd3adyt908 I have been using that Milwaukee inverter more everyday

I doubt Dewalt even makes this item

No problem 👍

I hope so too!

Yes, I might try that with another smaller TV

I'm not sure it would work very good, so far this car adapter can't charge my phone worth a dang

Glad you enjoyed it!

Yes that can make the difference between rapid charge in slow charge on yourself and if you're trying to charge 2 of them

You could just use the type a to type C cable that would solve your problem instantly

The new model has 2 usb and 1 type C port that is rated for 30 watts.

I was Sorry to hear that myself, shocking how the DeWalt inverter performed

I am frustrated abut the performance and that dewalt doesn’t make a battery inverter

Well they kinda do it's considered a generator inverter and it's 500 bucks and runs on 4 dewalt batteries

@@ryanrosenstiel6648 it’s actually 650 bucks and it runs on gas.

@@borys444 they have one that runs on four batteries

Thanks glad you liked it Angelo

I hope Jeff responds .. I know its been a while .. he probably didn't see your message .. you might have better luck with an email ?

Yes that is correct and yet I still wonder why the dwelt could not even handle charging my phone

Thanks for clearing that up bc I too was confused. Either DeWalt comes out with one like Milwaukee or thinking I could use a battery adapter from DeWalt to Milwaukee. What are your thoughts on that as you seem to know what you are talking about, at least you know a heck more then me. I have like 30 DeWalt batteries so need to keep it in this line. So Dewalt battery adapter with adapter on that Milwaukee unit. Yay or nay?

@@zjedinite A lot depends on exactly what you want to power with it. If you're going to be using it mostly for powering USB devices from DeWalt batteries then something like the DeWalt DCB094K USB charging kit could be a good choice. It is a bit pricey for what it is but if you have a lot of DeWalt batteries it might be a good choice. It can output 100W on USB C or 12W on a USB A port. So you could power a wide range of devices from older phones to some newer laptops. If you want to mainly use the 120V outlet then it really depends on what you want to run. DeWalt does have the DCB1800B that can handle 1800 W of power. The small DeWalt unit that Jeff showed in the video only runs off of a car 12V outlet and can only handle 100 W continuous power. The Milwaukee top-off does 175 W but that is still not that much and you'd have the problem of getting it to work with theDeWalt batteries. You could probably run the Milwaukee top-off from a DeWalt battery but there are some things you might want to be careful of. For example each tool/battery manufacturer has a system to make sure that the battery doesn't get run down past a level where it would be damaged and not able to be recharged. I believe that for Milwaukee that this is handled by the tool. So most likely the top-off would shut itself off before it drained the DeWalt battery past the point where the battery was damaged. However you'd likely want to test that on a DeWalt battery you didn't care too much about before taking the chance of ruining a good battery. I just noticed that others have used a DeWalt to Milwaukee adapter with the Milwaukee inverter so it should work. Another general point to keep in mind is that most of these small battery powered inverters for 120 V will output a modified sine wave. So it's not the same as a pure sine wave like you would get from a home outlet. You can run a lot of things on a modified sine wave but some sorts of power supplies can be damaged by it. So for the question of whether or not to run the Milwaukee top-off from a DeWalt battery I'd say it depends on exactly what you want to power with it.

@@wiredkat thanks for your detailed reply. After taking your info into consideration and watching other videos explaining how this unit is more of a “Modified Sine Wave” whatever that means lol I’ve decided to do it right and just spend the money. So for emergency home use if power outage I’m gonna pick up the DCB1800B And for phone and simple stuff gonna pick up DCB090. The newer model has that c port but I’m not really looking for speed charging. There are a lot of aftermarket companies offerings convertible to be used with DeWALT batteries but since this is not my field of expertise I’m thinking on staying with brand name. The reason I was so interested on this Milwaukee unit is due to a video I saw on a reputable tool reviews channel. “Belts And Boxes a single Milwaukee M18 battery powered our entire studio” I was like “WTF!? I need to own that” now I know, curious on your thoughts of that video. Maybe you could shed much needed guidance on that channel so people like me don’t just go out and buy one based on what I now think it’s a ridiculous review by Belts and Boxes. Hey thanks again, for steering me on the right direction with your info! 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽

@@zjedinite Keep in mind that the DeWalt DCB1800B is still a modified sine wave inverter so you'll have to be careful what you power with it.

Yes, more like dirty square waves, almost like saw tooth

check the back of the tv power output. If it exceeds the max limit of the Ryobi and Milwaukee inverter then it's the circuit protection kicking in

And floating neutral. So the neutral is not neutral, but -85 volts... That could also have tripped a safety.

would like to see it, have not seen it yet

Yes, plug in right?

And for anyone wondering the 40v will not run a corded drill for more than a few seconds before the overload flashes red and the device shuts down

The drills are usually 15 amp rated, that's why it trips the overload

It is so mind boggling I would like to try to figure out what it is that's wrong with their device

Good idea! Yes, depends on the current draw. Anything over 1 amp is not likely to work

Anything that makes heat uses too much watts. A small space heater the size of your phone probably uses 300-400 watts alone. Most room space heaters are average 1500watts.

I have not used corded mice with my laptop, it is touch screen and good touch pad. Maybe I'll try that too!

Yes we've seen the power station it's far above this type of mobile power inverter that just simply runs off of 1 battery that's why I did not review it in this video

@@jeffostroff I custom built my own 500w and 1500w for my Milwaukee batteries. 500w one uses 1 or two batteries in parallel, 1500w one uses 3 or 6

There was no sticker on the power button. Also, the instructions state this: "If the power button LED blinks red then turns off, the power source may be overloaded. Disconnect your device, make sure your battery pack is sufficiently charged to power your device, then press the button to turn the power source back on. Reconnect your device and try again. If the fault condition immediately reoccurs, the item being powered exceeds the capacity of the power source."

For now I would absolutely get the Ryobi 1 because you can't beat that deal. And if you decide later on you need to grow in your needs you can investigate whether the Milwaukee is for you. it's really a matter of which features do you like out of both of them they both scored pretty well on our tests. for example the Milwaukee has that rafter hook some people don't need that.

I am not convinced that battery backups have perfect sinewaves either.

Thanks, I use the Lavalier GO - White mic: amzn.to/3c7NObI I have a black one and a white one. I use the Rode Wireless Go - Compact Wireless Microphone System, Transmitter and Receiver amzn.to/2PKVh9b to transmit the mic out put wirelessly to my camera.

Thanks for sharing

Didn't you see our livestream Friday morning, and the community post that night? I bought that mower. I'm just waiting for my grass to grow up high to test it against my Honda

You definitely can use a 9ah battery with the Milwaukee. That's what is on mine right now.

You can use a 12 ah on the Milwaukee inverter

Yes I want to do additional testing to see how it does on a smaller TV that I have like a 14"

I charge a battery with a battery to begin with in order to test it to see if it is possible. That's what testing and engineering is all about

Maybe a Ryobi tool is going to be used, but low battery there and no in site power, but you have that Milwaukee inverter and a charged battery for it. A silly and contrived example, but that is the sort of situation that might occur in an electric blackout or brownout.

I’m looking for something like this to charge my flashlight after use for in my vehicle

@@jeffostroff and posible happens that you gonna use m12 tools and use the m18 to keep charge in remote places

I wish dewalt has a regular 20v battery inverter, nothing yet, just a USV charger that is battery based.

@@jeffostroff Even Hart has one.

That's awesome! I was using my Milwaukee inverter yesterday to charge my Worx electronic cardboard slicing tool, just left it plugged in and left in the car all day

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

Looking forward to your better video works.

That would be nice

18v Ryobi didn't work with my graco. That was the first thing I tried.

Dewalt has a larger inverter for the vehicle, but it is very expensive. You could use the Milwaukee or Ryobi battery powered inverters here in this video, and plug in a n electrical cord that you wire up to a 12 volts ac to dc power supply, then you have your 12 volts.

Yes those are low power devices

There was nothing, I am hoping by Father's Day we see something!

As long as the starter draws less than 1amp I think you would be safe

@@jeffostroff i was wonder if it had enough power...I have gone threw owners manual...I want to go get and hope inverter would put out enough power...hoping to run power to shed this yr

I doubt it would destroy electronics.

I'm just going to leave mine in my car and if an emergency I have to charge something that needs 120 volts I will use it but I just know that it's not going to charge my phone

Wow, $39 now

That TV was finicky. Most of these units likely put out what we call a dirty sine wave, not a perfect curve, but easier to generate square waves and try to round them off.

As long as you don't exceed and amp of current draw it should be able to handle them so that would mean if you're operating them at low speed but I would think once you start getting up there in speed in your tool stretch to increase the current requirements then it will trip the unit into turning off

That's all that dewalt has, but it is an inverted that is in the same output range

Have not acquired one of those yet

@@jeffostroff I remember when vcg had gotten it on clearance for $200 with the batteries and i ended up finding one at my store for $200 several years ago when they were on clearance

Yes one day I might get that.

They likely farmed the whole thing out to some OEM who doesn't have a clue

It's a great charger

road trip!

Yes so far we have not put them through enough rigorous on the job testing to see which one will do the best

Glad to help!

Yes that is possible I have thought about that, but also remember that inverter is a 12 V invertor, whereas the Milwaukee in the Rio be invaders are both 18 V

@@jeffostroff Good call sir didn't even catch that.

@@jorymills652 I check the output of the dewalt it states 140W. You may have something. Because the Ryobi is a 150W inverter and the Milwaukee is a 175W inverter. The question is. The dewalt really a 140 peak limit. While the other 2 have a higher tolerance to peak load?

Thanks for joining us again tonight Eugene

Will check that out some time!

So which TV do you prefer?

Links are in the description of tonight's live stream kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZZ9dtRi3riaY3U.html

Yes, I am hoping their 20 v battery version would be a better performing inverter than a 12 volt tool

Yeah they get real sensitive. You didn't say anything wrong.

Yeah everyone was doing just fine in the live chat. They are probably abusing their moderator power again. Only Chaka is allowed to talk negative about a product.

@@bigal1110 Yeah they play big time favorites.

@@bigal1110 Chaka is exempt to all judgement!

Who u talking about vcg?

Have not seen anything from Ridgid or Black & Decker

@@jeffostroff big sad I know masterforce (menards) has one as for the others I think it’s black and decker or worx that has a built in usb to the batteries

I like the Milwaukee and the Ryobi units best

@@jeffostroff Do these gadgets beep when they're unhappy? Do they work when the engine is shut off? (Yes, it will drain the battery.)

yikes that is puzzling

We got one chilly day yesterday, I could of used an arctic blast last week

@@jeffostroff I miss living in Boca for the weather, definitely don’t miss it from the traffic and growth. I moved away back in early 2001.

Got your DM

@@jeffostroff ty! :) really great videos you have. God bless :)

That's what most of them end up being

Yes going into the cigarette lighter is better, but as I showed it was lame at charging most of my electronics devices

That's a lot of money for apiece of plastic. I should try one of those though

@@jeffostroff there's a pwba in there to regulate voltage or something. Cost is high,but any low production item will cost more. The competitors are higher priced. $28 to use batteries you already have is a lot less money than buying M18 batteries. It means I can buy milwaukee bare tools to add to my collection. That $100.00 170watt M18 power inverter is high priced compared to other inverters not fitted to M18 batteries. The 800 watt inverter that runs my Traeger Scout pellet grill is $50. I'm wondering if I can run it on 18 volt Dewalt batteries using a step down zener diodes to make it work at 12 volts.

Yes, I should try it on the coffee maker

Yes I think it would easily do it do you know what the power draw is on your clippers?

@@jeffostroff no ill have to check.

Funny. I read this just as I was about to cut my hair. So I grabbed the Milwaukee and tried it but it won’t jump start my Wahl clipper. It buzzes the blade back and forth a tiny bit but not fully to the point where it can cut hair smoothly. I used a 9.0 HO battery. Hope that helps.

@@PersonaN007Grata thank you for the information , its the only reason I had for getting it .

Thanks for watching Allen!

But even on low power devices it was coming on

@@jeffostroff It seems that with the Dewalt unit that with only 140 watts to work with and coming from a 12 volt outlet that probably has some limitations and no third wire (earth ground) it just gets itself into trouble easily.

Awesome TV

It's good for small things like ipads, pcs, fans, but not my phone!

Yes dewalt needs to get their act together on these

None of them are

Watts up probably draws negligible power