Which Pro Is Most Aero In A Time-Trial?

Which Pro Is Most Aero In A Time-Trial? | Top Pro TT Positions

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Time-trialling is dominated by aerodynamics. The pros spend hours testing different positions to reduce their drag by as much as possible while keeping their power output at its optimum. There is no one size fits all approach to aerodynamics however, with top top time-trial pros like Remco Evenepoel, Tony Martin, and Filippo Ganna having different philosophies when it comes to the position that’s best for them.
We take a look at what we think are the best pro TT positions and what makes them so fast!
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@gcntech 2 жыл бұрын

What other riders have impressive TT positions? Let us know in the comments 👇

@Nerzyster 2 жыл бұрын

Primož Roglić 💪💪

@OFFSHOREDOUG 2 жыл бұрын

Most of the top ten. Because they have to have good position to put out the power required to push there cda along at a good enough rate to be in the top ten.

@yogatriathlete 2 жыл бұрын

Sebastian Kienle

@chrisbaum998 2 жыл бұрын

Aston Lambie - 4k IP World record holder(3:59.930) must do doing something right in body positioning.

@ahron_1444 2 жыл бұрын

dan bigham

@volkervoit 2 жыл бұрын

Would be super interesting to compare some of the best Pro TT Cyclist positions to Pro Triathlon TT positions like Jan Frodeno.

@ConsciousBreaks 2 жыл бұрын

3:53 "Don't worry about units-there aren't any." Cd"A": Am I joke to you?

@william6171 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah was thinking the same. Cd has no units. A most definitly has a unit, m^2. CdA's unit is m^2

@micomrkaic 2 жыл бұрын

It is just another example of scientific ignorance spread by GCN.

@legrandempereurcosmique5142 2 жыл бұрын

@@micomrkaic that’s basically what vulgarisation is, not saying it is any good or bad, u just have to do the job urself if u want correct scientific informations

@micomrkaic 2 жыл бұрын

@@legrandempereurcosmique5142 Nicely put, you are right.

@zrsgamboa 2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Bridgewood you seem to have missed these champions of the TT: • Victor Campenaerts • Tom Dumoulin • Rohan Dennis • Fabian Cancellara • Chris Froome • Bradley Wiggins • Dan Bigham (New British Hour Record!!!) • Ellen Van Dijk

@barristerh5379 2 жыл бұрын

Haha everyone on your list was who I wanted/expected to see compared. They each have their own small position compromises that might be interesting

@Mike0 2 жыл бұрын

This looks mostly like a list of people who have put out big power while aero, rather people who dont need to put out much power to do the same speed, because they're more aero. Ellen Van Dijk looked the least aero of the top 3 at worlds this year, due to being a taller heavier athlete.

@spencermcgehee3602 2 жыл бұрын

Bruh froome no way

@mariusbelisle3494 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mike0 Dan Bigham

@bobfoster687 Жыл бұрын

Lawson Craddock-- US TT Champion

@whatwelearned 2 жыл бұрын

The fact Evenepoel can put out so many watts despite being bent like a paperclip and being 5'7 is close to a miracle in my book

@OFFSHOREDOUG 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think he needs that much power. He is tiny on that bike. Wonder what his cda is.

@OFFSHOREDOUG 2 жыл бұрын

@takotsubo thank you. I def would expect his cda to be near their. Wouldn’t like to judge his power. Def not got big power going by the euros but he can certainly hold it and power to weight seems pretty good too.😂

@homiertcw Жыл бұрын

@@OFFSHOREDOUG around 0.17

@veganpotterthevegan Ай бұрын

@@OFFSHOREDOUG he's extremely powerful😂

@davekelambertus 2 жыл бұрын

What about Campenaerts. The hour record holder, despite putting out way less watts than Sir Wiggings

@rob-c. 2 жыл бұрын

Was that because of doing it at altitude though, rather than sea level - not to do with being more aerodynamic.

@davekelambertus 2 жыл бұрын

@@rob-c. true, but it was the combination of all things, including being very aero

@afiqmuhammad2034 2 жыл бұрын

love to see Conor position on TT. Stallion as what Hank call.

@md.moinulislam9467 Жыл бұрын

Very good informative and innovative useful TT bike technology review....!

@t1p1may0 2 жыл бұрын

How about Stefan Bissegger? I seem to remember hearing how good his CDA was

@chrislevick7837 2 жыл бұрын

This

@thatguy9051 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent Job Ollie!

@Kimberlytheresam 11 ай бұрын

I am not a Remco fan but his time trial is spectacular. When he passes other riders, he looks sooo aero!

@tomrachellesfirstdance7843 2 жыл бұрын

You also forgot Remco rode straight into a barrier during a TT. You forgot Si Richardson as well, legend has it takes 4 riders + a pro doing a flat out chain gang to topple him. They had to get a pro as the last attempt someone got dropped within a few minutes 🤔

@landerdumoulin8725 2 жыл бұрын

In what race did Remco ride into a barrier?

@Mike0 2 жыл бұрын

Remco has been off the road a few times this year, but Rémi Cavagna is the only one I can remember riding into a barrier during a TT

@remcoevenepoel4872 2 жыл бұрын

Which barrier? 😂😂😂

@chrispyy606060606 2 жыл бұрын

Love this TT content GCN keep it up! The UCI desperately needs to change the TT file rules, they are borderline unsafe and prevent a ton of triathletes from competing in UCI sanctioned events (which hurts participation in the discipline overall). Even adding +5cm to each of the measurements for extension length would help greatly and revert back to measuring from the axis of the shifter versus the tip. (The existing rule puts those with mechanical shifting at a disadvantage fit wise compared to electronic)

@robbchastain3036 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work, Ollie, and for these time trials, I'd like to see a sort of anything goes, speedy racers in their wacky machines, low riders or fully faired or combos of everything. It'd be a great spectacle and circus and the UCI could kick back and say, hey, no rules, so don't crank about us no mo'.

@ThisIsANameBruh 2 жыл бұрын

The answer is easy. Evenepoel. The 60kg boy can TT on par with 85kg beasts. It's not even a question really, he is hands down the most aero on a TT bike.

@rob-c. 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what percentage of his aero gain is because he is simply smaller? You could theoretically have a mediocre position (if scaled up), but your small size makes up for it.

@dominicjames4848 2 жыл бұрын

@@rob-c. Emma Pooley did a good video on this for GCN a couple of years back. In short, no, small size doesn't make up for it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9ajoZhey63FYKc.html

@skyscraper5910 2 жыл бұрын

Remcos performances are a testament to how good he is. His position on the tt bike is a testament to his biology allowing his to be in that position and being able to put down power.

@PaulTomblin 2 жыл бұрын

The first person I remember with the high hands position was Floyd Landis. I remember him getting told to change his handle bar position moments before the start, and I guess they over torqued them or something because he broke his extensions moments after the start and had to get a bike swap.

@RudiDwiHartanto 2 жыл бұрын

can tell ollie made this video from his passion and after consultation with certain dan bigham. Excellent content

@ruanvanderwesthuizen3882 2 жыл бұрын

Best for last! The legend!!

@OFFSHOREDOUG 2 жыл бұрын

We need to get all the GCN presenters in the wind tunnel to see their CDA.

@livinginsyn4814 2 жыл бұрын

Gcn vs GTN in the wind tunnel

@gs78798 2 жыл бұрын

:-D Connor, the greatest of them all, will have a free day with his family on wind tunnel day. Instead of Connor they just bring an oak tree and lean his bike against it. :-)

@leonbroekx 2 жыл бұрын

Marlen Reusser has bizar high/long aerobars. The front-end of her bike has a unique look, but she won silver at the Olympic TT and again silver at the World Championship so it must be fast.

@kstethespokes1051 2 жыл бұрын

Coffee not generally recommended for keeping your turtle head tucked in, quite the opposite in fact! 😂

@kakarot2430 2 жыл бұрын

lewd...

@IsmailIsmail-hy3fx 2 жыл бұрын

Turtle's head..😂, but fast though.

@torbis75 2 жыл бұрын

You have to include Ashton Lambie....The pursuit. His Position I think is the most aero of them all ;-). Look when he rides with his team, the others seems like tall towers.

@jasonleslie6366 2 жыл бұрын

Although this might be a relic of the past, I would still rate Chris Boardman’s position on the Lotus track bike as a benchmark in aero position. Would love to know his cDa.

@Matakoshi 2 жыл бұрын

I'm just curious what your thoughts are on Chris Froome and Tom Dumoulin's positions are? Both have had excellent TT results in grand tours and Olympics (which I under stand doesn't necessarily mean they have a good TT position!).

@vrfonseca 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ollie, Cancellara had a espetacular position too!

@ptocknell 12 күн бұрын

Tell your cohorts over at GTN to do a similar video for pro triathletes. Be interesting to compare positions when you have to get off and run.

@Henrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyy 2 жыл бұрын

Alternative title: *which pro has the most severe neck pain* ?

@Mjdssdfff 2 жыл бұрын

Best intro music ever

@yannbachelot5178 2 жыл бұрын

What about Jonathan castroviejo ? Incredible position

@xixo2k7 2 жыл бұрын

Jan Ullrich might have had both the most efficient and most elegant position on a TT bike out of all.

@fabiankraus8841 2 жыл бұрын

Word

@pedrazza5537 4 ай бұрын

Best online cannel on earth. All is correct and i do a lot test also. Can you make a clip between some efforts in past vs. Today. Exemapel bordmann do also de hour record in the 56er km. Ganna also. But i compare of since aeroposition and bike bordmann will be the real monster. Mabe also rominger with 55km.

@cmcockshoot 2 жыл бұрын

Dowsett? Bigham?

@stevespell9634 2 жыл бұрын

Dowsett 🤔😂😂😂😂😂😂

@simoncoorevitsdesign6388 2 жыл бұрын

Cab you do this for the less restricted triathletes? Or do i hace to go to Gtn for this ;)

@qpae8503 2 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting. And also maybe analyse the differences between good road cyclists' and triathletes' tt positions.

@Eomak 2 жыл бұрын

would miguel indurain be a beast with today's bike's and clothing?

@slyburner123 2 жыл бұрын

Not a word about former world champion and olympic gold medalist Fabian Cancellara. Yes he retired in 2016, but he had huge success against the clock. Would have been interesting to compare his riding position with today's best time trialists.

@reubenbacon9156 2 жыл бұрын

You forgot bisseger, lowest cda in the pro peloton apparently

@pembrokeshiredan 2 жыл бұрын

3:54 CdA does have units! Cd is unitless, but the "A" is for area. (Units dropped by Ollie?)

@JThelen1031 2 жыл бұрын

That's not a unit though; that's just the reference value. Cd is just a coefficient with no dimensions to measure.

@pembrokeshiredan 2 жыл бұрын

@@JThelen1031 yes, Cd is unitless, but it's almost impossible to measure on its own so CdA is what's always quoted (as in the video). And A is for area, which has units.

@leeeeigh796 2 жыл бұрын

There a feature UCI legal Vs non UCI legal at your local 10m time trial!

@EatMyPropwash 2 жыл бұрын

Eeeeeasy Oliver…. You may make Heather and Mark at GTN jealous. LOL.

@tommyschlebusch 2 жыл бұрын

Victor Campenaerts

@kidShibuya 2 жыл бұрын

The UCI limits how your your extension can be? Good thing I am not a pro.

@Altimis 5 ай бұрын

My head refuse to go down so I look down, head go down. Just eye hard stare up. I felt wind pass through me like crazy.

@d00dEEE 2 жыл бұрын

Joss Lowden is probably somewhere in here.

@jameskinrade961 2 жыл бұрын

Yo mush

@robertcatuara5118 2 жыл бұрын

I just realized Ganna and Alaphilippe both won back to back World's. Interesting.

@enijland7562 2 жыл бұрын

Tom Dumoulin. Could have been mentioned.

@19wjsa 2 жыл бұрын

No analysis on Quintana? I am surprised...

@jimmyhor78 2 жыл бұрын

Well Roglic still won the Olympics TT and both Vuelta TTs on that same helmet. So it can't be that bad.

@ezraholwerda1512 2 жыл бұрын

Also I gets aero tested al the time at s Dutch university. And the same helmet being used by the Dutch trackriders being quite successful.

@Yes-sc1pb 2 жыл бұрын

He uncursed the cursed helmet 😂

@bertdebruijn7129 2 жыл бұрын

He usually has a visor. That doesn’t look as silly.

@buffelfloh8623 2 жыл бұрын

Stefan Bisegger is also a big number for the future

@mariusbelisle3494 2 жыл бұрын

It wouldve been cool to include Dan Bigham, THE aero guy.

@jeffreypeters1902 2 жыл бұрын

They are all starting to resemble the Floyd Landis "praying mantis" position IMHO.

@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 7 ай бұрын

2 years later my comment but Floyd was defo ahead of his time with his TT position for sure

@markrskinner 2 жыл бұрын

For the oldies : Chris Boardman.

@HHH-bi1xg 2 жыл бұрын

Remco and campenaerts

@snailpower1890 2 жыл бұрын

campenaert is also an aero freak

@Pratalax 2 жыл бұрын

Vleuty, Van Der Breggen?

@jonathanzappala 2 жыл бұрын

If you did all time and not at the moment, my guess is Emma Pooley.

@whfowler6515 2 жыл бұрын

not having ashton lambie on this list is crazy, he is quite possibly the most aerodynamic rider ever tested with a CdA around 0.16. I've heard he can do 30mph at 200 watts from some credible sources.

@carlosbarbozapadilla429 2 жыл бұрын

The first time I saw Tony Martin and didn't know who he was I thought Cillian Murphy was a cyclist.

@danielpinto1417 2 жыл бұрын

You clearly missed two of the most aero (lowest CDA) out there.. first Dan Brigham and Stefan Bisseger...

@Subi7o 2 жыл бұрын

Dan Bigham

@benwhite469 2 жыл бұрын

A talk about most aero positions but missing Dan Bigham Joss Lowden and Steffan Bissiger arguably the 3 lowest CDA in the world right now. I'm guessing this was filmed before Dan and Joss's hour records attempts

@gauravgurav2953 2 жыл бұрын

What is CDA?

@gcntech 2 жыл бұрын

It stands for coefficient of aerodynamic drag - basically just how aerodynamic a rider is!

@larrylem3582 2 жыл бұрын

@@gcntech Coefficient of aero drag times area.

@spencermcgehee3602 2 жыл бұрын

Bissegger Dumoulin Asgreen Dennis Plapp Bigham

@helmiwijaya7 2 жыл бұрын

Anna Van der Breggen

@paulsolon6229 2 жыл бұрын

Cancellara needed Gcn talks about coffee a lot Addiction?

@Neezabja 2 жыл бұрын

Bradley Wiggins.

@paulsolon6229 2 жыл бұрын

You show team pursuit many times And we don’t know which of 4 is the rider you are talking about

@DeveryAndrews 2 жыл бұрын

@hngldr 2 жыл бұрын

Know what I really don't understand? Why do they have 2 aerobars when they could just have one and clasp one hand over the other? Mine broke once and I did that for months of training and it worked great. Seems like a waste of weight and aero to have 2. Obviously you need 2 pads, but you definitely only need 1 centered bar.

@ili4707 2 жыл бұрын

Jan Frodeno had a handle bar like that in the tri battle against Lionel Sanders. Did seem like a very good idea! I think/hope they will be implementing that on the road soon. Did look like a cock though...

@MichaelWilliams-iv6dj 2 жыл бұрын

Martin Toft Madsen and Dan Bigham are about as good as it gets for men. Joss Lowden has got super narrow shoulders that tuck in very nicely behind her Tempor.

@fabian0705 2 жыл бұрын

jonathan castroviejo

@admirale3000 2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@prathvirajsinghrathore1162 2 жыл бұрын

Where is Ashton lambie, dan bigham ??

@franziskus0342 2 жыл бұрын

you missed olly bridgewood

@Eomak 2 жыл бұрын

Fabian Cancellara?

@BigBrownMonke 2 жыл бұрын

No Tadej Pogačar?

@tobycolin6271 2 жыл бұрын

The best position is the one that wins the most events.

@mbal4052 2 жыл бұрын

The best position is the one that’s fastest with the fewest watts..

@tobycolin6271 2 жыл бұрын

@@mbal4052 not true it’s a balance between drag, power, comfort, confidence and most important fatigue. I have seen many extreme aero positions that where set up in the tunnel completely fall apart in a tt. What you can maintain in a tunnel for 4 to 5 minutes often doesn’t work when your out on the road buffeted by the wind.

@madsbertramkristensen2718 2 жыл бұрын

Jonas Vingegaard

@PrzemyslawSliwinski 2 жыл бұрын

1. What about Manon's position? 2. What about a "mechanical doping" in a form of artificial chests and bellies some riders have used recently? PS I enjoy riding on a tandem with aerobars. Took a while to learn how to keep a balance on turns and less than perfect roads, but... ;)

@log_it8282 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, artificial... `:-S

@KotzmannWolfgang 2 жыл бұрын

Remco or Küng with 2x 800ml breast implants, that would certainly look awesome. 🤩

@4shl3y38 2 жыл бұрын

ollie has the best aero position in a tt bike

@4shl3y38 2 жыл бұрын

@@ds6914 😂 even if im 14 i think i can sure compete with mid level amateurs in a tt race 😂 just sayin😂😂

@clemme17 2 жыл бұрын

Kasper Asgren....?

@DomestiqueKoch 2 жыл бұрын

Tom Dumoulin

@aastadpalkhiwalla944 2 жыл бұрын

Fabian

@lopey66 2 жыл бұрын

how about mentioning triathletes as they have maintain this for180km in ironman races, even Ultra 24 hour races

@chrispyy606060606 2 жыл бұрын

They are lucky as they don’t have to deal with the UCI’s fit rules. Basically anything goes for them

@tommyrq180 2 жыл бұрын

They have to consider running after the bike leg, thus have compromised TT positions.

@checktaschu4492 2 жыл бұрын

A tall guy like Ganna can never be as aero as someone like Lisa Klein or Evenepoel. He has other advantages that make him quick, but that’s not aerodynamics.

@paulsolon6229 2 жыл бұрын

Remco head down He needs a mirror to see up road

@MegaTubescreamer 2 жыл бұрын

LMAO sub-optimal enhancing hypodermic hyperdrive hypo-critical

@micomrkaic 2 жыл бұрын

This is an incredibly ill informed video. CdA is the product of Cd = drag coefficient and A = area of cross section of the moving object. 1. The units of CdA are square meters. Ollie should know better, since he studied science! If you don't use the correct units for CdA, you don't get the right units for power from the air resistance formula. BTW, some people call CdA "drag area". Get it? Area! 2. More importantly, Ollie lumps together Cd, which depends on the shape of the moving object, and A, which depends on its size. So, Remco's CdA might be small, be he is also a small rider. If Ganna and Remco had the same shape and hence the same Cd (in the parlance of cyclists -- if they were equally "aero"), Ganna would still have a larger CdA, because he is a bigger rider! The fact that Ollie does not discuss this is inexcusable. 3. This is the third major scientific mistake I've found in GCN videos and I'm losing my patience with this sloppiness.

@bojansaksida3625 2 жыл бұрын

Realy???? the only picture of Roglič is from last years TT in the TDF???? with the TT helmet on a climbing bike in the midle of a climb??? the best climber in the world with so many TT wins...and the olimpic champion.... it's obvious you don't like him, but as a commentator you should be more objective

@mbal4052 2 жыл бұрын

He was talking about how poor his helmet was aerodynamically you know, not having a go at him..🙄

@bojansaksida3625 2 жыл бұрын

@@mbal4052 his helmet was good....for a TT bike in a TT position...no TT helmet has an aero gain siting upright on a climbing bike !

@bojansaksida3625 2 жыл бұрын

@@mbal4052 actualy the REAL experts say that he has the best TT position , because of how straight his back is, from all the years training ski jumbing inrun position as a kid