Which Remote ID Module is Right For You? - COMPLETE TEST
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Күн бұрынWell, let’s see what’s out there.
We’ve got 8 remote ID modules we’ll be discussing today; Pierce Aerospace B1, BlueMark DB120 and DB121, Drone Tag Mini, Drone Tag Beacon, Drone Tag DRI, Drone Tag BS, Spektrum Sky ID, and the Flite Test EZ ID Module.
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00:00 Introduction
01:24 APPROVED STANDALONE MODULES
01:48 BlueMark DB120
03:11 Pierce Aerospace B1
03:58 Dronetag Mini
05:17 Dronetag Beacon
06:14 ADD-ON MODULES
06:47 BlueMark DB121
07:16 FliteTest EZ ID
07:43 Dronetag BS
08:04 Spektrum SkyID
08:27 Dronetag DRI
09:29 Remote ID Apps
10:33 Comparison Document
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Wait! Before we get into this, remember, you only need a module if you drone ISN’T currently remote ID compliant. Where do you check? uasdoc.faa.gov/listDocs and filter by RID. This will tell you if you drone is complaint with RID. If it is listed here, you don’t need one of these modules unless you have other older drones. All of the modules we’re about to discuss are FAA approved at this time.
For recreational operators… You only need ONE module. This will work for all of your recreationally registered drones. You can swap in between flights to ensure both your Mavic Pro and your foam park flyer are compliant.
For Part 107, You need a module for EVERY drone that isn’t currently compliant… Each module will need to be registered to the aircraft’s registration number in the FAA DroneZone.
Alright, let’s get to it starting with approved stand along broadcast modules. These have internal batteries, can be turned on and off via a button or switch, and would be most useful to those who don’t want to wire anything up, or have an older DJI or Autel drone. We’ll be looking at how long the module runs for, how much it weighs, the overall size of the module, the range and the cost. For our tests, no settings were changed.
Alright, that wraps up stand alone modules. Next up, we’re going to cover the available add-ons. These are modules that require power to operate, but contain everything else (GPS, broadcast system, etc) needed to be compliant. This is best for the folks who are flying foamies or FPV and just want to plug in the device to comply.
@dfwfpv 11 ай бұрын
we appreciate your tests! i love that shorter range is considered a feature. lol
@VicMossPhotography 11 ай бұрын
Concise and full of much needed information, just like all your videos. Thanks PI!
@RonaldBrown59 11 ай бұрын
Great testings of the new RID modules. The pricing of these was much higher than I expected. I also didn't expect them to all look very different. In the future I hope the more affordable $50 and under modules finally arrive. Thanks for testing them out, and sharing all this information with the community.
@gregpate4554 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the testing and information. My RID is my new Air 3. Don’t let it ruin the fun hobby for you. Just go out, fly and have fun doing it.
@jillrsimmons 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for all that Greg!
@cameranerdsmedia 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Pilot Institute! Best Drone Content on KZfaq
@eqbviewllc7111 11 ай бұрын
agree . . reliable and professional !
@jimhatch5873 11 ай бұрын
Great snapshot view of the options here. Thanks for doing the work. It looks like I'll only need one for an older Inspire that DJI couldn't turn the RID on for but my other drones are good to go according to DJI & the FAA list.
@HisXLNC 10 ай бұрын
The amazing thing about this new regulation is that there is no standard established beyond what the FCC allows for power outout. Theoretically, you can build a module powered by a coin cell battery that won’t broadcast beyond 5 feet for more than 10 minutes and it would still be compliant. I see a future of cheap, Chinese-built, “compliance modules” coming to market when it’s finally established that remote ID will stick around.
@RosaBevington 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info! I thought I could buy one module and swap them out but this video and the description cleared that up for me. Glad I found this out now.
@dutchovenguy 11 ай бұрын
Thank for all the hard work. Timely and necessary info.
@ivanankrom 11 ай бұрын
As always, great video! I'll have to wait a little to be compliant. With the price of a module and repair cost for a cracked lens on my mini 2, I'm just going to wait and buy a DJI with standard RID in the near future. Meanwhile, I'll be flying a lot these next couple of weeks and get as much footage as I can before the 16th. My wife won't like it, but I'll tell her to take it up with the FAA. 😆
@influentialdrones 11 ай бұрын
Nice work. Useful info. Well done
@How-to-by-Lou 10 ай бұрын
This great.. thanks sooooooo much for testing - am waiting for the Drone Tag BS and Spektrum SkyID to hook up and have a baby. Then one will have a really sleek looking remote ID module they can solder onto their flight controller.... - in the beginning these things were a monstrosity but according to moor's law they will get smaller and cheeper. And so I wait.. Glad it was delayed.. Just found out that my GEPRC CineLog that's still in the box isn't remote ID compliant
@The_Real_Patrioteer 11 ай бұрын
Great information, as always. Of course, I purchased the Drone Defence AeroPing. It should be arriving just in time, hopefully.
@jeannesdroneventures6078 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Very informative! But I really do hope there is a delay in the current RID required date. I have the Mavic 2 Pro and Mavic 2 Zoom and am a recreational flyer and its a lot of money to spend until the firmware update happens in hopefully December. I really feel many people won't be able to afford the module or feel it's worth purchasing to just use for a few months!
@DroneXL 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing the info!
@ExtremeAerialProductions 11 ай бұрын
Awesome job as always
@ryanjonesdronechannel724 11 ай бұрын
Hey, just to check, what are the remote id rules for the dji mini and mini 2 drones? I haven't seen it on the faa list. If they are required to use rid modules, which ones would you recommend for the mini and mini 2 drones? Would prefer something under $100 at most if possible. Thought I would ask
@captraykelly 11 ай бұрын
Great video, Greg. Simple RID is not necessary. All I can say I’ll be compliant and good luck to the FAA enforcing it.
@foxriversystems7380 11 ай бұрын
I agree about the difficulty of enforcing the RID rule. I think they will catch/fine people when they run into a reportable (damage) issue or if the FAA decides to do some random checking to verify compliance. While I'm not an attorney, I'm thinking that in either situation, they could compel a pilot to provide flight logs and they will know the status of the RID registration for the specific drone.
@glenesis 11 ай бұрын
If the FAA was intending to enforce it they'd have specified something better than BT or Wifi.
@flat-earther 11 ай бұрын
hi captraykelly, have you become a flat earther yet?
@dunordable 11 ай бұрын
I have an original DJI Mini (
@NickzAndMikz 9 ай бұрын
@@dunordableI think that’s correct
@onedsc1 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Greg, If your drone is already listed in the FAA database as being compliant will the iPhone/Android apps detect them correctly? Do we need to do anything in the DroneZone?
@williamwalton6934 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video. It was very informative. Unfortunately, I can't afford to buy a broadcast module for my Hubsan Zino 2+ so I'll put it aside, let my Part 107 certificate lapse, purchase a DJI mini 3 pro or better yet a Hover Air X1 and just fly recreationally. It would be interesting for someone to do a follow-up in about 4 months on "What it costs to fly at a CBO's FRIA?" ; not only in dollars but in scheduling and availability of the site.
@russshanks5913 11 ай бұрын
The Spektrum SkyID people say that it is compatible with all receivers, just plug in a servo type cable to get power to it. Very smart way to save a bit of weight. I pre-ordered it yesterday for $69. It looks small enough to put on the inside of many RC planes. For Part 107 pilots, is it one RID for EACH plane or can you move it if you go and change it on the website?
@HighlanderMikeGolf 11 ай бұрын
My “old” Mavic Air 2 still doesn’t have an RID firmware update available from DJI. I bought the Bluemark DB120. One nice feature about that one is you can make it “Karen-proof”. Keith at Alien Drones has the hack. Thanks Greg to you and your team for the in-depth comparison. You guys always have the best and most accurate content.
@anthonychrismartin7888 11 ай бұрын
Is there going to be a update for DJI Air 2?
@HighlanderMikeGolf 11 ай бұрын
@@anthonychrismartin7888 That’s what the rumor is, but I’ve heard it’s not going to be until late September. I haven’t seen anything official from DJI, just what others have said DJI has said to them.
@jstewart627 10 ай бұрын
6:09 when you say if you don't want to be detected... you are testing with your cell phone range, and that is nothing compared to what the air traffic controller uses, which is around 30 miles.
@leviclatterbuck7106 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information!!!!
@Drones_Eye_View 11 ай бұрын
Great video. I'd already decided on the SkyID ($69) and added a Spektrum battery ($15) and charger ($22) that will also charge other RC plane batteries. A small plastic box will contain the battery and wires and I'll velcro the SkyID to the box and the box to the drone. We will see if that actually works. I'm only using this on an old drone that I fly just for fun and not for any video or photos as the camera is not great.
@explorer8888 11 ай бұрын
Hey Bruce! I just checked their website. They have many battery options. Which one did you get or recommend?
@TommyTester 11 ай бұрын
Where in the regs does it say you can use a Broadcast RID module for Part 107 operations as you're suggesting?
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
It's a bit complicated to piece it all together. The Remote ID regulation is under part 89, not part 107. Part 89 applies to drones that require registration (as per 89.101), that includes drones operated under part 107. 89.115 talks about modules as an option to meet the requirements. www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-F/part-89/subpart-B/section-89.115
@DavidLPitman 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this comprehensive look at the current marketplace! The ideal that each individual drone used under Part 107 needs it's own unique module is somewhat inconsistent with the FAA's explanation that RID's purpose is to associate responsibility of any particular operation to an actual human. Certainly, that can be accomplished with one, properly registered module moved between a particular owner's UV. But then, the FAA figured they would cost between $25-$50 dollars as well. I will be eagerly watching how this rolls out. Of all the regulations that the FAA has adopted with regard to UAS thus far, this implementation of RID seems to be the most "messy", for lack of a better word, so far.
@sr71afan 11 ай бұрын
Many Thanks!
@eqbviewllc7111 11 ай бұрын
good info . . .thx !
@aaron6516 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I got two DT beacons... 1 it's light standalone and has a long run time. And added benifit... short range 😂 thanks for sharing!
@thomasesparza9175 8 ай бұрын
When you register your module, the module serial number replaces the original drone serial number. Do you leave the original drone serial number on the outside of the drone, or do you have to replace it with the registered module serial number?
@reginaldcobb5456 4 ай бұрын
I have a Mini 3 Pro and registration related to using the larger batteries. I am using the drone for fun around the house and some hunting areas. Since I am in a configuration with larger batteries, and strobe lights, I figure I will need the remote ID module. In the less than 250g configurations, I will be using the light batteries and strobes (which i have weight them to check compliance). Will the registration for the larger battery, automatically require the use of remote ID modules on the light configuration? Thanks for the weekly information. Oh yeah, I need to finish the training class.....Life.
@alisneary6058 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great info. I'm surprised these things aren't built with aerodynamics in mind in the least bit. I chose my mavic pro years ago because of it's speed. I fly in Maui Hawaii often, have had the wind go from nearly nothing to over 25 MPH in a matter of minutes and have always had success navigating it back with it's ~40MPH capability. It seams like these are housed in hobby craft boxes. I guess this is just another way to make us buy something new which makes all my batteries, spare props and accessories just a useless as my drone. Not to get cranky with you. Thanks again.
@CactusJackSlade 9 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks! I wish you would also test the Holy Stone RID module, it is only $90, but most importantly available on Amazon right now. I emailed them and they provided me with their FAA cert, but I know that does not mean it works 100%. I will be watching your channel in hopes of a test!
@zadjikproductions3981 11 ай бұрын
For my DJI Mini 3Pro, following your recommendations, I downloaded Drone Scanner (Android), but it didn't work. Neither did OpendroneID. Searching for insight, I ran across something that said "DJI drones broadcast via WiFi Beacon" so these scanners may not work. Could you maybe elaborate on the scanners in a little more detail?
@bfooteprints 11 ай бұрын
Great info! Thanks for sharing your tests... Do you all plan to, or have you already tested drones with internal, included modules? I have a somewhat newer, late-model Air 2S and I'm wondering how far the range is for scanners to detect. I have installed a couple of scanner apps on a separate phone, but haven't tested with someone traveling at a distance to see if they can spot me on an app.
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
We will be doing that testing soon.
@bfooteprints 11 ай бұрын
@@PilotInstitute appreciate your reply!
@ThomasGreenlaw 10 ай бұрын
Good video, I have a Drone tag Beacon . Have using it on a drone and in a sailplane. Your correct this module on the upper end of the price point., but think that at will hold up moving the module from one to another. And the broadcast range might be shorter than others, but we a are flying in the range of sight right? So i think you pay a little more for quality, and this where Drone Tag shines. In Az.
@michaelwalcker 11 ай бұрын
Great work, we'll be sure to pass this along to the DroneHive pilot network.
@garywhite2825 11 ай бұрын
Great video as usual. The problem I have right now is that none of the four modules seems to be available by the compliance deadline. They are all backordered or shipping in October. Anyone know of a vendor that has any in stock?
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
No one does at the moment, unfortunately
@tomcharters7051 11 ай бұрын
Curious, in your testing of the modules could you see a difference in the handling since the RID module in theory changes the CG of the aircraft based on its placement?
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
No, not heavy enough to impact weight and balance or performance.
@ChenJerry888 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I think I will go to buy BlueMark DB120 because it is cheaper. Are there any website recommended to buy it? It looks like Amazon and Best Buy do not sell it now. Thank you so much again!
@cjdangles 8 ай бұрын
I have just 1 drone, and fly very infrequently. It's a Mavic Air 2, which I found isn't remote-ID ready so I need to add a module. I somehow missed the relevance of the detection range. Does that limit the distance I can fly? In other words do I want one with the most range possible?
@russcarlson7262 11 ай бұрын
You reported a tremendous variation in detection distances of the modules, but do these compare to the built-in RID of various drone? How far can FAA detect the drones with built-in or with the add-on modules?
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
We have not been able to test standard Remote ID drones yet. Tht will be a video on its own.
@MrJackHackney 11 ай бұрын
Got a Dronetag BS when they were half off in May. Just got it last week and was able to hook it up to a small lipo battery and attached to my Mavic Pro. Weighs 16grams with battery. Both Drone Scanner and Drone Tag apps picked it up and tracked it. Max range was about 1600 feet using BT Legacy 4 if attached to the back of the Mavic over the LED. Range was shorter at about 900 feet if I attached to the top of the Mavic. A second set of combo antennas did not seem to make much difference. Question: Does the drone have to be labeled on the outside with the RID serial number?
@explorer8888 11 ай бұрын
I like that idea. What is a lipo battery?
@regs3836 9 ай бұрын
@@explorer8888 ? You’re joking, right…?
@NickzAndMikz 9 ай бұрын
@@explorer8888A battery type.
@NickzAndMikz 9 ай бұрын
@@regs3836how about you help them learn?
@regs3836 9 ай бұрын
@@NickzAndMikz I was truly shocked that anyone involved with these things would not know what a lipo battery is! And you sure did a stellar job of educating them!
@vonSchwartzwolfe 11 ай бұрын
I feel the Range really only needs to be line of sight,
@sapphiresphone7144 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! Where can i find your tested range info for the Ft Ezid, Dronetag BS and spectrum?
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
As soon as we have those units.. The FT one is coming back after firmware flashing which needed to be done on the unit, the BS is in transit, and we ordered the spektrum when it came out but I don't think it has shipped yet.
@sapphiresphone7144 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, I look forward to it!
@DesertAdventuresinArizona 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Guys - this was very helpful - I ordered the Bluemark DB120 unit today for my Mini 2. I’d rather be compliant for 140 bucks. 👍
@nmfireman 11 ай бұрын
Isn’t a mini below 250 g
@nmfireman 11 ай бұрын
According to the specs, the mini two weighs 242 g with the battery and propellers. That means you don’t have to have remote ID for it.
@garyrsingleton 11 ай бұрын
@@nmfiremannot entirely true. He might be using it for business
@antoniogaranzuay6009 Ай бұрын
just purchased a SwelPro Max drone for fishing and understand requirement for RID. Is my drone required to have RID as Im only flying in non populated areas. I have purchased the Potensic , Model RID-916-US and wondered if it will suffice to comply with FAA RID.
@6010rocks 11 ай бұрын
does altitude get factored into the distance. lets say the drone tag beacon at 400 agl are you not able to get a signal standing 5 feet away? you stated about 350 foot range
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
The number we gave is the direct distance from the controller. So in the case of the 350 ft one, it was at 350 feet right on top of us and that's as far as we got it.
@jakependergist 11 ай бұрын
Greg, I'm a little confused by your statements; you said that if our drone is listed under the FAA Declaration of Compliance then a remote ID is not required "Unless it is older." Can you elaborate on that further? Does that mean that if I have an AIR S2 if it were manufactured before a certain date I would still need to get a remote ID for it even if it's listed as compliant?
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
No, if your drone is on the DOC list, it doesn't need a MODULE (meaning it's an older drone). Your Air2S is on the DOC, you don't need a module.
@wszumi1 11 ай бұрын
Do you plan on testing the distance RID transmissions in drones that have it part of their firmware?
@NickzAndMikz 9 ай бұрын
Good idea
@Carguyforlife 4 ай бұрын
Do y'all know if there is any way to use the Dronetag DRI with a flight controller using betaflight? I don't have any experience with Ardupilot but Bardwell had recommended this one (months ago). The price point and size is very appealing. I would be sure to pair it with a GPS.
@travelingboz0214 11 ай бұрын
I have a DJI mini 3 pro with the RC version ground station. I also have the android verion of Drone Scanner on my phone. In multiple flights I have tried multiple setting and yet to have Drone Scanner to see either the mini 3 or the ground station. Anyone have any idea as to why neither the uav or ground station not being seen? Or is this a broadcast issue from the uav and ground station? Both bluetooth and wifi turned on within the phone.
@PrimalDrones 11 ай бұрын
Greg, if you fly to where the module is out of range are you still compliant?
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
Yes! Getting a signal from the control station is not a requirement.
@WallyZorro 11 ай бұрын
Two comments. Holystone announced remote modules will be available on their website mid-September around $50 - $75. As a novice, my question is where is it safe to attach the RID if my beacon light is already attached to the top-rear location of the drone? Does it vary according to the drone manufacturer? Thank you.
@Nate-bd8fg 10 ай бұрын
lol it released, for $89.99
@onmyworkbench7000 10 ай бұрын
*_BIG BROTHER_* is always watching *_YOU!!!_*
@HikingSteve 11 ай бұрын
I was considering the BlueMax DB120 but it's confusing to me as to where to purchase it. The Bluemax site appears to be a manufacturer site. There was a link to dronefly but that appeared to be in the UK. So.... has anyone bought one? If so, where?
@jeremyleonbarlow 10 ай бұрын
The screwy thing is the gray area after a new release for a drone. The DJI Mini 4 Pro is not listed on the FAA compliance list, YET, but I assume it will be, what do you do then? Get a separate module? Or what is the deal?
@PilotInstitute 10 ай бұрын
It will be. It already broadcasts.
@70ccbigdog 6 ай бұрын
Is the Holy Stone one on Amazon good with the FFA. Help please.
@user-my7vw1rq8k 11 ай бұрын
Just curious, how does a Mavic 3 pro compare to these modules in terms of transmission distance?
@NickzAndMikz 9 ай бұрын
Great question
@Foundex1 11 ай бұрын
At what altitude we’re these drones test AGL? I would guess the higher the drone was the easier to detect.
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
400 feet AGL.
@eschannel1091 11 ай бұрын
Great video as always and very informative. How do you get external power to the Spectrum SkyID modules and other similar modules?
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
If you're using it with a homebuilt, you can power it from the battery (as long as it fits the power criteria) or you will need to buy a small 1S battery to plug it to.
@Drones_Eye_View 11 ай бұрын
I bought the Spektrum 300mAh 2S 6.6V Li-Fe Receiver Battery on Amazon for $15 and a Spektrum charger that will have multiple uses, RC plane batteries too. A small plastic box I have will hold the battery and wires with one fed out for the SkyID. Velcro the SkyID to the box and then the box to the drone.
@eschannel1091 11 ай бұрын
@@PilotInstitute I have a DJI mini 2. Will this work for it if I were to get the external power?
@eschannel1091 11 ай бұрын
@@Drones_Eye_View what kind of spektrum charger do you have? did you get that from amazon?
@Drones_Eye_View 11 ай бұрын
@@eschannel1091 I did get it on Amazon. It is a Spektrum 150mA Dual Output Charger, $21.
@jdp1956 11 ай бұрын
I read in the DJI site that we will have a firmware upgrade no later than 9/30/2023 for the Mavic Air 2 which will active the internal RID. So, does that mean there is no need to buy an external module ? I'm kinda confused now.
@ChrisParayno 11 ай бұрын
Correct but for the month you'll be non compliant.
@0utcast 11 ай бұрын
@ChrisParayno great. I sure as shit wasn't going to buy a module nor am I going to update the f/w. Not going to endanger my life with all the gun retards near where I live
@nmfireman 11 ай бұрын
Was interested in the EZ ID, but really can’t find a place to purchase it. Nobody seems to have it even on their website.
@glennwallaceweitz 11 ай бұрын
Can someone please point me to a reputable retailer for a DB120? I only see ONE company (DSLRpro) selling in the US, and they're saying it's a "pre-order". Shouldn't these be available everywhere by now?
@ronmitchell7644 11 ай бұрын
Gregg I purchased both of the first two RID Modules -- I have received the Dronetag Mini -- It is heavy, documentation is incredibly poor. I have charged it up but not used it yet. There is a subscriptiong they want you to purchase - you get the first 6 months free -- again the documentation is very very poor thus it's not clear what the subscription if for? There is a setting "Public" vs "Private" - without proper documentation, I have no idea what this is for...when I have time, because the status lite is yellow, I will take it out side and see if this keeps the phone apps from see it (which it the only part of the FAA RID rule I don't agree with). I only paid $299.00 for the Dronetag Mini from Volatus Aerospace. As I stated before I have not received the Bluemark yet and I only paid $130 for it.
@eTexNerd 11 ай бұрын
How do these modules go about ascertaining the location of the operators remote, if that remote does not have GPS? Isn't remote ID supposed to report the position of both the UAS and the Operator?
@Daniel_W_ 10 ай бұрын
Good Morning Everyone! Im curious why the design of moduals needs to be attached to the drone and not the contoller. My flight controller (GL300K) for Phantom 4 Pro 2.0 has multiple inouts and output ports, what cant the information of location of the drone and pilot be provided by the fligt contoller? Its all literally provided on te screen or phone deoending on the controller. I just find this odd that this has not been a solution. However I could be wrong and DJI may even restrict that information from having the ability to tranmit or even be provided externaly.
@flockshot1967 11 ай бұрын
Is it true that DJI will have a firmware update for the Phantom V2 by the end of December to make it FAA compliant?
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
This is DJI's release about RID: forum.dji.com/thread-293343-1-1.html
@YellowRoseDrones 11 ай бұрын
Thanks
@OliverMagyar 2 ай бұрын
There is another tool named Flarm Aurora from Switzerland. Works with a Powerbank and USB C Port. My problem was, that I didn´t find a complete manual. More expensive as Dronetag, but prepared for additional settings who will comes in the future for drones.
@ginamariephotography 11 ай бұрын
I revieved an email from aloft that says they have remote id compliance features on their airspace & fleet management platform. Have you heard anything about that? Thanks in advance!
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
Yes but it doesn't mean what you think it means. It's just a way for Aloft customers to keep track of which drone is compliant and which is not.
@bradleywhais7779 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if I could buy a cheap pcb only model and make a chassis and battery for it, and sell it at cost. Would it need a new certification, or would it be fine with the pre-certified module inside? I am talking about the addon modules. They are very light.
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
You'd need to get FAA approval for it. As far as we understand, you tell the FAA that your module is compliant, and they put it on the list. The onus of making sure it's compliant is on the manufacturer, not the FAA (they don't test them).
@bradleywhais7779 11 ай бұрын
@@PilotInstitute oh cool, I might look into developing my own then.
@illeagle7209 8 ай бұрын
do any of the remote id's need to be activated an id so how
@-joshualee- 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. But how about DJI Air 3? I just purchased it but when I check the list of remote ID there is no DJI Air 3. I'm very frustrated for that.
@afunkusamongus 7 ай бұрын
Maybe I’m misunderstanding but in order to be remote ID compliant it has to transmit the advanced telemetry data, specifically the live coordinates of the controller. In addition these devices have to be on the FAA’s published list of approved devices. Last I looked there were no compliant modules.
@PilotInstitute 7 ай бұрын
A module doesn’t need to broadcast the location of the controller, only standard rid drones need to do that. And yes, they must be in the DOC list to be legal, there are plenty of them there: uasdoc.faa.gov/listDocs
@holtwebb 6 ай бұрын
Many of these module cases look like they are 3D printed. The fit and finish looks almost homemade. What do you think? Also there are a several far cheaper modules out there that you didn't mention Why? Are they not up to the task? Like the Holy Stone at $89 (which is very popular). Is it not worth it? Thanks for your input. :)
@thomasesparza9175 11 ай бұрын
I purchased the DroneTag Beacon on July 31 and the supplier, Madison Area Drone Service, stated this week they are receiving and shipping out the first week of September. When I pre-ordered mine, it was listed at $199, but their website now shows $252 & ETA 8 weeks as of 8/23/2023!
@NickzAndMikz 9 ай бұрын
That sucks
@Paiadakine 11 ай бұрын
how do you know where to place these modules on your drone, so you dont screw up your drone antennas?
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
It shouldn't interfere. On top of the drone is a good spot, preferably not on top of the GPS chip.
@0utcast 11 ай бұрын
Don't place it on your drone throw it in someone's truck
@samnassjoson7573 11 ай бұрын
How many more FAA and FCC emplyees were added ti run this crazy prigram? TCAS for drones next?
@flat-earther 11 ай бұрын
hi samn, have you become a flat earther yet?
@samnassjoson7573 11 ай бұрын
@@flat-earther no, never will. How much more taxpayers have to shell out to fund this control freak program? Guess you love to spend other people's money.
@kevinkukla3948 6 ай бұрын
stop with the flat earth crap.@@flat-earther
@SlackerU 11 ай бұрын
I had a low battery on my RC but it ensured me that the RemoteID on the Mini 3 was still broadcasting. If they're never going to make a new FPV then I might upgrade to the M30T.
@33rdframe 10 ай бұрын
"you need to make sure that your foam toy plane is broadcadting your location to the public so that you will not endanger national security" Welcome to 1984
@5670and 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, Greg. You briefly touched on "limited availability" of these modules. Drone Tag's modules, for example, are on back-order for weeks or even months. With the FAA's 09/16/23 date fast approaching, it's unlikely that there will be a lot of compliance by the deadline. Add to that the ridiculous over-pricing of these relatively low-tech modules by the few manufacturers that are making them, plus the general disdain for RID throughout the UAS community, and you have the making of a disastrous start for RID.
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
Indeed! 100% agreed.
@ronmarvicsin7709 11 ай бұрын
Kinda curious if the prices will come down eventually
@SW-Video 11 ай бұрын
I'll think about getting a module when they are under $50.
@flat-earther 11 ай бұрын
hi sw-, have you become a flat earther yet?
@SW-Video 11 ай бұрын
@@flat-earther ???? Why would you ask someone that?
@flat-earther 11 ай бұрын
@@SW-Video SW well we were all lied to when we were taught that the earth is a ball flying in a vacuum
@christopherconkright1317 4 ай бұрын
You said 1-4s but if you are using the 5v uart the battery should not matter no?
@PilotInstitute 4 ай бұрын
Careful. 4s is not the same as 5 volts.
@christopherconkright1317 4 ай бұрын
@@PilotInstitute right let me clarify. If I was using a 6s quad and connected to a 5v regulated uart my battery S rating would not matter?
@samnassjoson7573 11 ай бұрын
Coming next: a remote ID for YOU! Nanny state wants to know where you are all the time.
@johnkerrins686 11 ай бұрын
They mastered that a long time ago. It's called the cell phone
@samnassjoson7573 11 ай бұрын
@@johnkerrins686 believe it or not, a lot of people don't have cell phones and the government hates to rely on cell phone corporations
@mrmusicplz09 2 ай бұрын
So...under 249g drone are now over spec?
@15PSI 11 ай бұрын
Greg - I think it would be useful to note that the Spektrum RID module is currently sold for $69. The price will increase to $99 in the future. I am still waiting for mine. - Joe O.
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
We have that info in the PDF companion but we wanted this video to stand the test of time.
@johnrusscher3954 11 ай бұрын
@@PilotInstitute Seems like you could have said that the into price is $69 and the regular price will be $99. You talked about other prices. Also, the SkyID works will all transmitter/receiver brands. It comes with three different types of connectors so that it will work with any receiver.
@theskybutlerllc 11 ай бұрын
Hey Greg, nit-picking a bit maybe, but at 2:45ish you mention using your BVLOS Waiver for some flights. You might want to review that. It's my understanding that only Standard Remote ID drones are allowed when operating under any Waiver, unless a module is specifically called out in the waiver. Appreciate the video though. Ken Bouvier And i do understand that RID is not required yet. Just for future reference is all.
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
That would be for future test after September 16, correct. But this test was totally legal when completed.
@theskybutlerllc 11 ай бұрын
@@PilotInstitute, agreed! I just wanted to make sure you steer clear of trouble. ;)
@shadowofchaos8932 11 ай бұрын
I notice you skipped over how long it takes to get a gps lock for the modules to broadcast legally. 3 to 5 minutes after powering on is what i have noticed because my flight was almost over when it finally locked on. BLUEMARK db modules have an Anti-Karen update so it doesn't broadcast to outside apps only to the FAA. Alien Drones has a video and coupon code on his video.
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
We had much quicker GPS lock times. Less than 30 seconds from power on to getting GPS data on the phones we used to test.
@shadowofchaos8932 11 ай бұрын
@@PilotInstitute the drone airtag takes at least 2 minutes from Ken's video. But the options for RID is small
@JakePickett-mz7lg 11 ай бұрын
If that is true than my VTX will burn up before I get the lock to legally be able to get up in the air.
@steveburton2410 11 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the follow-up at the end of September after the real-world reports start coming in...
@garrettkensler451 11 ай бұрын
Give me the shittiest cheapest rid module that gets only 5ft of range. As long as I'm compliant, I really don't care how great these RID modules are.
@flat-earther 11 ай бұрын
hi garrett, have you become a flat earther yet?
@bwmcelya 11 ай бұрын
I believe I'll wait at least another six months to buy anything. $30 will be my price limit. 12g max on the weight. Catch me if you can. Thanks for the vid. I'll put a little something extra in your paycheck next month for the overtime. May your winds be light and your sticks tight.
@kmatch1 7 ай бұрын
Sky ID is causing me problems when used on RC planes with telemetry. I bought it for personal use of speed and altitude, neither of which give data through telemetry to my radio screen. All updates have been applied. Plus fades/holds increase by a factor of 10x along with random holds when compared with/without the module. Andy Kunz and 3+ engineers from spektrum are aware and working on this but he's been quiet on the matter for 2-3 weeks.
@fredweinmann2610 11 ай бұрын
The FAA is about to release new details about RID, and most likely extend the September 16th date.
@TheDroneAngle 11 ай бұрын
Currently, the FAA website will accept the same RID serial number for multiple drones, which actually makes sense. The Dronetag control App does have some setup for which drone you are using although I don't know if that info is broadcast. There is no real logical reason for a specific remote ID to be tied to a specific drone, so requiring one module per drone is ridiculous and an onerous requirement. I believe it's just an assumption from the extension of the requirement to register each drone for commercial pilots. The need is to tie RID to an operator, which their website does. The serial number of the drone needs to be tied to the drone, in case it is found. I think they now know that their $50 estimate was BS. I currently have two modules at the cost of $350 total, but 3 or 4 that I'll need to use them on. The big drone companies can suck it up, but I can't afford that. I'll end up sunsetting some of my drones and the ones that go first are the ones I use only for hobby purposes. I'm also worried about interference. What is the likelyhood of one of these modules interfering with GPS or the control signal, especially if damaged?
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
Yes unfortunately even though the drone zone lets you duplicate the serial number, it goes against part 89 remote ID regulation for part 107 operations.
@user-hy7sg4cw1e 11 ай бұрын
Lets get to some specifics. I have my 107 but really just fly for fun, except for a couple specific requests so far. Al drones registered under my 107. My Mini 2 will require an add on module if I fly under my 107. I also have an Avata and a DJI FPV. The Avata is listed on the FAA website as RID compatible, the FPV is not. However, in both cases I cannot take off unless I hook up my phone and run DJI Fly. But, people have reported that if you take off you can disconnect the phone so how is the Avata compliant????? Very confusing. I have not tested the phone disconnect, in process of moving and too hot in central Texas. Comments please!
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how the Avata ever received compliance. To qualify for Stnadard RID, RID can't be tempered with. The Avata can obviously be tempered with... But yes, you can take off with the phone plugged in, disconnect it in flight, and continue flying.
@Abb0nz1 11 ай бұрын
From what I understand if you have your 107 you need RID. It doesn't matter if you're flying recreationally or not.
@pavlikmintz3621 11 ай бұрын
@@Abb0nz1 I understood from Greg's discussion in an earlier episode that if you are flying under part 107 OR if your drone is registered under your 107 OR if the drone is over 250g then you need RID. Say you have a Mini 2 and an Air 2S. The AIR 2S has to be flown with RID because of its weight. The Mini 2 has to have RID only if you register it and to fly it under your 107 certificate. If it carries your recreational registration, then the Mini 2 (with nothing added to push it over 250g) can be flown under recreational rules without RID even if you have a 107 certificate. Unfortunately I registered my Mini 2 for commercial use since at the time I thought it would get an update for Remote ID. Now I have to either figure out how to unregister it and re-register it under my recreational certificate, or get an RID module for it (which I am not going to do at current prices).
@miketr90 10 ай бұрын
I also am looking to get a part107 with my mini 2 and trying to figure out what to do here. It seems like it should be possible through firmware to add this but it’s a shame that isn’t the case. Looking for others feedback for Mini 2’s
@JoeBoone82 11 ай бұрын
Supposedly the UAS Remote ID Sept 16th date is going to be delayed again. Back to the modules, I'm really not sure what I will do. DJI is screwing Mini 2 (Part 107) operators. I guess they know without a firmware update, then we will have to buy another drone. It does not make sense (to me) to spend $200+ on a module when a used Mini 2 is not worth much more. I could probably sell the Mini 2, put that with the $200 needed for the module, and get a used Mini 3 Pro that would be compliant.
@KarlBlessing 11 ай бұрын
Remember how people were like "Don't worry there will be a few options $50 or under by september"...
@flat-earther 11 ай бұрын
hi karl, have you become a flat earther yet?
@KarlBlessing 11 ай бұрын
@@flat-earther No and that has nothing to do with this topic.
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