Which Splatoon Game Had BETTER New Weapons?

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Splatoon 2 and 3 both added a lot of new weapons to the series, but which game did a better job? I'm going to compare the games in 5 different categories to see which comes out on top.
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S2 vs S3 - 0:00
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Variety - 2:24
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Weapon Design - 4:09
Balance and Power - 5:47
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@Sim23. 15 күн бұрын

The true answer is Splatoon 1 🎉

@dokeyokey3613 15 күн бұрын

agreed, s1 added the best weapon in the series, the aerospray definetely not biased here haha

@zugiii1086 15 күн бұрын

Yeah we got 7 new weapon classes there, that was revolutionary

@sonicrunn3r895 15 күн бұрын

@@dokeyokey3613 Agent 3 is partially responsible for bringing the Aerospray into existence and dooming us all for years to come

@pishagerudo 15 күн бұрын

this but unironically about splatlings and sloshers in the august update. who remembers when that was peak hype

@daltongibson1033 15 күн бұрын

S1 Heavy Remix my beloved...

@EclipseKirby 15 күн бұрын

To be fair to Splatoon 3, the more weapons that already exist, the harder it is to come up with new ideas at all, much less ones that are as interesting as previous ideas. With that in mind, I think Spoon 3 did a good job.

@Solluna2003 15 күн бұрын

Yeah many of my ideas for new weapons involve mixing different classes together into a new weapon. For example, Dual Splatanas with a dodge rolling charge slash that can change direction in between the roll & the charge. A splatling that fires lingering bubbles like bloblobber. A charger that can ricochet like line marker. A brella that charges like roller. (The inkling runs with the brella open and spreads ink on the ground/fires ink in front. Cannot launch shield.)

@forrest6939 15 күн бұрын

i have one, a splatana that is like a lance and looks like a closed brella

@sonicrunn3r895 15 күн бұрын

I think it shows especially with Nova. It's VERY hard to come up with a new one that isn’t just number tweaks by this point due to the oversaturation

@durdleduc8520 15 күн бұрын

some of my favorite new weapons from 3 were also ones that felt less like hybrids, so it's clear they can do it. painbrush & dread are the biggest examples, they're not as large deviations from their classes' MOs that some new splatoon 2 weapons have, but they're distinct in the way that they can do things that other members of their classes can't. unfortunately both of them ended up with power problems (painbrush more than dred) :(

@digital.lake.enjoyer 15 күн бұрын

6:25 "The only notable new main weapons in the splatoon 3 meta have been pencil and edit" kid named Splatana Stamper:

@ProChara 15 күн бұрын

Besides the new weapon classes, bad wording on my end.

@digital.lake.enjoyer 15 күн бұрын

@@ProChara o okie

@squidsofty8507 15 күн бұрын

*is literally the best weapon in the game*

@TenshiKori 13 күн бұрын

@@ProCharareminds me of that video you made a while back about the hate comments. Except this time it was actually reasonable.

@NotSnak 11 күн бұрын

@@squidsofty8507i wouldnt call it the best but it is good

@legoboy7107 15 күн бұрын

7:56 OKAY, that shot of the Splatoon 2 and Splatoon 3 mascot girls fist-bumping was too adorable! I love the modded in-game custom cinematics and shots you have in your videos, they're so cool! Props to Logi!

@mjdevlog 15 күн бұрын

oh, so that was done with mods? cool ig

@legoboy7107 15 күн бұрын

@@mjdevlog It has to be I'm pretty sure, many of the shots featured aren't stuff I think you can normally just do in the vanilla game. Some of them you can with Amiibo in Photo Mode, but not everything I'm pretty sure.

@jjQlLlLq 14 күн бұрын

@@legoboy7107 Definitely can't without an Amiibo character next to you. Which all of those shots in the video don't have.

@wolfy_spl 15 күн бұрын

7:56 I loved that fist bump lol 😊

@tadpholes 15 күн бұрын

WOLFY HAAAAAAAAAAAY

@hkaden6815 15 күн бұрын

This editing is actually sick, I love this

@Ballistic2770 15 күн бұрын

Yup, that’s chara for you!

@SuspiciousTemmie 15 күн бұрын

@@Ballistic2770*that's chara's editors for you

@Ballistic2770 15 күн бұрын

@@SuspiciousTemmie I ment the channel but ok.

@abraham3673 15 күн бұрын

@@Ballistic2770 *Logi

@hkaden6815 15 күн бұрын

@@Ballistic2770 I haven’t been watching that much for the past year or so, I actually accidentally clicked the notification but was surprised to see how much the editing has changed and improved!

@SuspiciousTemmie 15 күн бұрын

The editing on this video actually goes so hard, Logi's editing just keeps getting better and better

@donuttttttt 14 күн бұрын

was about to comment this but you beat me to it 😭

@ATinCanOnYT 15 күн бұрын

SPlatOON 4 better introduce the spoon class

@Doubledare_games 15 күн бұрын

And the new class: Auto rifles, with the gimmick of not painting but being fatal

@ApapaneNui 15 күн бұрын

Since Splat3 is the end of the Squidbeak Splatoon saga, I like to imagine Splatoon 4 taking place in an entirely new place with new characters and such. I envision a society on another continent where Inklings, Octolings and Salmonids live together in harmony and have adopted each others' cultures and customs. With a society of Salmonids and Cephalopods together, maybe we could get spoon weapons ;D.

@yoursnatchedweave641 15 күн бұрын

@@ApapaneNuii wouldn't like that because im r. ace ist

@MacZephyrZ 15 күн бұрын

Considering how weird the Splatoon series is I don't even think that idea seems that far fetched

@Takumi_Spl 14 күн бұрын

FR YERES

@Glory2Snowstar 15 күн бұрын

I am so happy y'all list your music, I've been searching for that intro track for YEARS. Gotta give Street Fighter's OST a listen now! It is kinda funny that Dualies were the fan-favorites and "Mascot Weapon" of 2, whereas Stringers get the front cover of the game and yet barely any fans or good kits to show for it. Always kinda funny watching games try to make bows have usage cases over guns, and I can respect 3 turning them into frag bomb weapons as their answer. I remember finding Brellas weird but REALLY cool, I used the Hero Brella quite often in 2 as a memento of its true debut in Propellor Land. LOVE the color scheme too.

@LogiCreates 15 күн бұрын

Hope you enjoy Third Strike’s OST 🔥🔥🔥

@SaltyToad00 14 күн бұрын

The Street Fighter series is home to a ton of bangers, especially 3rd Strike and the Alpha trilogy.

@BigPro1123 15 күн бұрын

Splatoon 3 added big swig express and that’s all I need ❤

@juliansiles5410 15 күн бұрын

Fun fact:the seasons in splatoon 3 that didn't include a new main weapon, were the ones that introduced new specials and also a new King salmonid.

@mustardcookie864 15 күн бұрын

honestly, i feel as if splatoon 2 had the better new weapons, brellas are a unique frontline even though they're at a weak state right now and opens up opportunities to play more supportively than usual with teammates around. dualies are fine, just that the competition with shooters is tough but the dodge rolls are fun to play with

@FinnishArsonist 14 күн бұрын

When it comes to weapon design, I think Tent is seriously one of the most interesting things I've seen in a while - Shield characters almost always end up veing awful to fight against, yet with this game's unique speed and the shield being forced forwards, it ends up being a shield that is fun to both use and counter. So props to the devs there.

@master-pz5ed 15 күн бұрын

my dude thank you YOU GAVE ME PTSD TO WHEN EXPLO GOT ADDED HOLY HELL THAT WAS SOOOO BROKEN ZONES WAS ACTUALLY UNPLAYABLE 🤣🤣

@BigPro1123 15 күн бұрын

When blob got added it was so annoying with so many bubbles bouncing around 😂

@master-pz5ed 15 күн бұрын

@@BigPro1123 oh god i still remember vo cut nation DESTROYING the finals using explo man toes were the days

@BigPro1123 15 күн бұрын

@@master-pz5edexplo is such a cool backline weapon I’d love to see it used more. Sucks that pencil just outclasses 99% of back line and supports

@thatwoomyinahoodie 15 күн бұрын

Man the editing has only gotten better and better as time has gone on, major props to the editing team!

@GentlemanLU 14 күн бұрын

The choise of music for this vid is phenomenal

@ToxicNessMain 15 күн бұрын

Amazing editing!! I like the emphasis around the music and cuts!

@vibrantvirusess 14 күн бұрын

really good video and editing!

@konsak0 14 күн бұрын

3rd strike, pseudoregalia, KH, FF, and Deltarune. Editor is cooking with these music choices!

@LogiCreates 14 күн бұрын

❤

@samwich8848 15 күн бұрын

I love seeing the new casual side of content you’ve been doing, I’m glad you have started to enjoy it as well 🙌

@Typi 15 күн бұрын

The video discussing how none of the new weapons in S3 took advantage of either Roll/Surge made me think... It wouldve been cool if we got a Charger that's gimmick was that it charged with a Squid Surge, or a Roller that had a faster flick coming out of squid roll. I'll explain how the mechanics would work below for nerds like me: The Charger could charge as the Squid Surge is in effect. When you pop out on top, the amount charged is dependant on how long you surged up the wall, so if you surge at the top, you likely won't have a full charge when you pop out, but if you surge from the base, you'll have a full charge when you pop out at the top. This could be a possible Goo-Tuber rework. The Roller is self explanitory. The idea is that the weapon is normally on the weaker end of rollers, but if you fling while you are rolling, the damage, range, and speed of the flick is multiplied. If you roll the roller out of a squid roll, your rolling speed is also temporarily doubled so that the roller's roll actually has a use.

@cartoongrump 14 күн бұрын

Loving the visual presentation in this video

@ekubo954 14 күн бұрын

Editor needs a raise for that whole first section with killing moon ALONE

@Xavier-the-sithyboi. 15 күн бұрын

The video is so good that my KZfaq can't handle it. That's pretty good.

@ouieat3130 15 күн бұрын

the editing for this vid was pretty fire ngl

@Tooli888 15 күн бұрын

The way that I see it is that Splatoon 2 had some higher highs like Ballpoint, Explo, The dualies, the brellas, etc. but it had lower lows like bloblober and clash. While splat 3 was (for the most part) more consistent quality with new weapons

@matuili2633 15 күн бұрын

THAT INTRO WITH THE AKUMA THEME WAS SO COOL, HOLY-

@kamenarts785 8 күн бұрын

Omg legit i was watching this and was like: holy shit the editing for this video is so crazy good i wonder who it is?? And WOULDYA LOOKAT THAT ITS LOGICTECH

@Thundertron55 15 күн бұрын

5:47 The Dead Ends jumpscare While I enjoy playing the Splatoon 2 original weapons more, I think the visual design of the Splatoon 3 weapons is better.

@BLVCK_IC3 15 күн бұрын

Man I checked at the right time 26s ago

@frigglefry_ 15 күн бұрын

Vjet Splat 2 mentioned with NO clip?!?! Amazing.

@King_SPL 14 күн бұрын

What I don’t like about S3 is every time they release a new weapon it just feels weak. With S2 it always felt exciting about how strong a new weapon might be. Explo making these huge ass circles of paint, tent having a huge ass shield that was very difficult to break down, undercover gets to shoot through the damn brella itself…with S3 it’s like ok….splattershot nova, yippie. Oh a slosher that…sloshes twice…ok.

@Phyc_ck 15 күн бұрын

I HAVE been waiting forever for this

@aronspiker72 15 күн бұрын

An idea for videos I've been thinking about is giving each weapon class one kit with a particular special mainly to give more options for specials that had poor or uneven distribution (mainly Crab, Inkjet, Cooler, Booyah bomb, Zipcaster, Kraken, and maybe Chumps & missiles). For example, with crab: I came up with Sensor Crab Flingza, Mine crab Bamboo, Beakon Crab Explo (mainly bias, but it's probably my most wanted kit in the game), undercover with Sprinkler crab (mostly a meme kit but I didn't want to give Tent another busted kit and want Brella to use its inkjet kit instead of a crab kit), rapid pro with autobomb crab, Painbrush with Fizzy crab, and wellstring with Torpedo crab

@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 14 күн бұрын

I feel like the reason splatoon 2 new weapons feel good is because they take something that sounds like it could be unbalanced and then give it drawbacks to actually make it work. "What if it's just a shooter but it also has access to a completely new movement option into enemy paint that also makes the main weapon stronger" sounds completely bonkers for a game like splatoon with so little health and such a premium placed on mobility, but between endlag, ink cost, low accuracy outside of turret shooting, they made it work. Likewise, "just give it a shield" had the potential to be completely broken (and admittedly has had some times where if it was made too good it could've completely shut down like half the weapons in the game) but they managed to tone it back.

@Clepto_and_Co 13 күн бұрын

It's kinda funny, my two favorite weapons are from 2 but with kits involving stuff new to 3 (v-tent & blob deco)

@ThisMan555 15 күн бұрын

I really feel like splatoon 2 had the better solo queue experience because just about anything could work unlike splatoon 3 which feels very watered down, like “Oh look, more vshots,” or “They have a cooler and we don’t, I guess we just lose.” Everything feels more restrictive in splatoon 3 and I find myself unwilling to play the more fun weapons just because they don’t work well with the same few weapons everyone plays.

@silvadic2207 15 күн бұрын

“The design of these weapons.” John Wick in the back: Pencil

@GamesAndAnimes 15 күн бұрын

I like the charger and splatling kits in Splatoon 2 more.

@GSS19945 15 күн бұрын

Personally I don’t think you give stringers enough credit. Yes they can be AOE spammers but having the ability to be consistently aware and track others down without getting mulled over is a lot harder than you think. I think they have the same potential as blasters where there’s always the potential for directs but you sacrifice having to monitor your turf around you consistently. If they give well string a paint buff like they did regular tri stringer(due to the lack of painting subs and special) then I think it’ll help it a lot.

@flopps1051 15 күн бұрын

6:25 This is also because we only had Crab meta before cooler meta, and there were no new main weapons with crab at the time. This is also probably because of the variety of specials in S3, meaning that the intersection of new weapons and meta specials isn't very large

@Breeze926 15 күн бұрын

Splatoon 2 gave us Clash and Bloblobber so Splatoon 3 wins

@user-qw3yy4qg8i 13 күн бұрын

I think the best buff for undercover aside the shield health and damage maybe the time for the shield to come back as the recycle brella or similare

@blitzkrieg9800 15 күн бұрын

Personally, s3 introduced a lot more mains that i like, so s3 wins in my book

@coldfanta4963 14 күн бұрын

I wish you could glide with brellas after squid surging. Would be cool to have a brella off of that gimmick

@cheemsdrip7478 15 күн бұрын

2:30 pseudoregalia mentioned

@giganticmoon 15 күн бұрын

i’m still watching the tier list vid 😭

@cheemsdrip7478 15 күн бұрын

2:30 OMG PSEUDOREGALIA MENTIONED

@the.littlest.toaster 14 күн бұрын

Akuma music ok i see you

@thehatter9400 14 күн бұрын

I enjoyed splatoon 2 because it was slower, not because of the specials, but in terms of player movement speed and shot speed. It was more casual, splat 3 is faster and its hard to keep track of everything

@Nathan11107 15 күн бұрын

One thing that the Dualie Squelchers will always have over anything else is the ability to turn into the Dual Squelcher from S1.

@FuryShadow64 12 күн бұрын

You should do a best weapon for every class now that all of the weapons have been released.

@UltraZigZag 15 күн бұрын

Who else was worried 3 would win 💀

@juliansiles5410 15 күн бұрын

Why?

@babywizard9027 15 күн бұрын

I think that Splatoon 2 added a lot of cool ones, but Splatoon 3 added the Splatana class, by far the coolest weapon class in the series. Just from that alone, i have to give S3 my vote.

@FISH-_-1899 13 күн бұрын

My biggest thought at any new wepon drop is just how will this effect salmon run

@seamuskills 15 күн бұрын

first time seeing a video that got uploaded in single digits minutes ago lol

@TMPGrub03 15 күн бұрын

one of my concerns for the future games is how they will add new weapons mainly for shooters at this point

@ShibuNub3305 15 күн бұрын

3S ost detected. Respect

@NorthSudan 15 күн бұрын

PSEUDOREGALIA MUSIC RAHHHHHHHH

@aymenplayer535 15 күн бұрын

Big swig fans UNITE!

@BigPro1123 14 күн бұрын

Here ✋

@funfionn2045 15 күн бұрын

as a dualie main no contest

@CaveBoss 15 күн бұрын

I would’ve prefered that all weapons and hairstyles we see in splatoon 3 was just added to splatoon 2 as an update. Splatoon 3 is lacking that splatoonlike charm that 2 still had. Splat2 better.

@badeatervlogsandmemes2128 15 күн бұрын

5:05 Damn, the Big Swig Roller has been so irrelevant I forgot it even exists.

@CreamyKong 15 күн бұрын

weapon idea: Zekko Brella it does 54.0 base shot damage. And shots are a bit slower the undercover brella. When the brella Opens it does AOE Damage of 52.0 With the brella using 1/3rd of the ink tank. after 4 seconds the brella launches and a bit slower the recycle brella and explodes on impact or after destroyed. kit is Tacticooler and fizz bomb

@seasluggie 15 күн бұрын

Jason jumpscare lol

@aTtsb 15 күн бұрын

I hope they add a charger that can ricoshot shots off coins like in ultrakill

@everchanging_axis 14 күн бұрын

You didn't get rid of the Deltarune music!

@Nighto 15 күн бұрын

Splatoon 3, I haven't even seen the video yet but Zipcaster Squiffer is an automatic 25 points and I will fall into a deep dark depression if it doesn't return in S4. Y'know, assuming it does include kits.

@catastrophiccat2942 15 күн бұрын

Great vid splat 1 add most

@Astra7Light 15 күн бұрын

It's hard to make weapons off of the new mechanics because Squidroll and Squidsurge can be done by every weapon and no weapon's original mechanics can be build off that

@donutsorokin8042 5 күн бұрын

Im still missing one dynamo roller kit

@partisan3353 14 күн бұрын

thank you incredibly esports ready skilled chaotic neutral gender neutral/non binary child from the hit indie RPG game from 2015 undertale, this video was incredibly entertaining and i enjoyed it, i give my thanks

@thenyen5945 15 күн бұрын

Bassed This Way!

@Djiimon 15 күн бұрын

I'm am honestly surprised that there is not a class based on spray paint. NOT the Aerosprays, but actual spray paint so they function like flamethrowers.

@Jahames2010 15 күн бұрын

I call the Decavitators Decapitators

@kirrb-dot-exe 13 күн бұрын

The real question is which game’s ranked mode had the best colors (it’s 1 😤)

@Helio343 15 күн бұрын

As a person who went from playing dapples in s2 to stamper at the beginning of s3 ( one year break) to stringer to vdualies after crab meta, I can confidently say that splatanas and dualies were definitely favorites in their respective intro games from the devs and I could see stringers being meta at some point but I don’t think it’s happening here in s3. Ps. Give kraken to vdualies.

@felixdavies753 14 күн бұрын

I really don’t get the hate for well string… I really like it.

@strawwpurry 15 күн бұрын

obvious answer is splat 3 cuz balancing but even though i never played splat 2 i think those are more fun

@tonutboi5945 15 күн бұрын

PSEUDOREGALIA !!!!

@bsgamers6383 15 күн бұрын

Splatoon 2 had alot of my favorites like squeezer ballpoint, Tetras, Tenta Brella and more Definitely Splatoon 2

@colbychong 15 күн бұрын

In terms of weapons S3 are better with some of the new weapon but for kits Splatoon 2 are better in my opinion.

@ValentinCampos-s9k 14 күн бұрын

I think it is splat 3 because I never played splat 2

@jasruss989 14 күн бұрын

Am I the only person that wishes that splatoon 1 was on the 3DS when it released?

@noremfor 15 күн бұрын

Undercover meta when???

@Unanimouseditz 15 күн бұрын

Splatoon 1 Next question

@badeatervlogsandmemes2128 15 күн бұрын

In your honest opinion, which S3 meta do you think was better (no specific factor), the Crab/Splash meta, or the Tacticooler/Pencil meta!

@Anyra-pb4fc 15 күн бұрын

But the grizzco!

@pasta_boi8266 15 күн бұрын

what about visual design? Which game would win that?

@roxymoron24 15 күн бұрын

splatana stamper obligates me to say 3 frame 1

@vetrox1910 15 күн бұрын

We don't talk about Recycled though...

@k1baede728 15 күн бұрын

I like stringers alot

@dynamorolleruser 15 күн бұрын

Didn’t watch the vid yet, but I think splatoon 2 had better weapons. Dualies and Brellas were very unique, where as splatoon 3’s weapons were (imo) less unique. Splatanas are weird mid-range brushes, and stringers are aoe chargers (except reef-lux)

@glitchingeclipse9850 15 күн бұрын

I think the way you describe splatanas and stringers really dumbs them down in a way that isn't that accurate to either classes functionally. Splatanas aren't even similar to brushes in most aspects, the only thing that would even be remotely close between the two would be the up close horizontal overlap potentially being inspired by s1 brush overlap, and that feature isn't even in the game anymore. Splatanas are more like if you took a charger and turned it into an anime sword, and even then I wouldn't say that's accurate. The horizontal and charged modes allow you to have more complicated plays, and the lunges allow for mix ups in fights a lot (especially for decav). They play way differently from brushes completely, and are uniquely different from most weapons in complexity and playstyle. As for stringers, while they do have a lot more in common with chargers, aren't completely just the same as them. Stringers have more chances to actually use partials (and sometimes tap shots) for combat compared to most chargers (unless you're bamboo), and the different firing angles based on jumping lets you adapt to a situation to either hit behind cover or confirm a kill based on if people are in kid or squid form. They're much more complicated to learn, but they give the user more ways to play in much closer ranges compared to chargers. Of course, dualies and brellas are very unique as well, with dualie rolls allowing for mix ups in combat and brella's shields to give the user more survivability and more options to get in, but to say that splatanas and stringers aren't as unique is not that accurate (imo), and really undermines how creative and complex they are as weapon classes.

@unluckify1 14 күн бұрын

Splatana’s share around 0 mechanics with brushes nor are they similar in anyway.Stringers litterly only share charging and a one shot with chargers that’s it their play style,gimmicks and options are unique to their separate class.Also the only class that’s similar to brushes are rollers so idk even know where you got “weird midline brushes” from.

@dynamorolleruser 14 күн бұрын

@@unluckify1 the reason I called them midline brushes is because their play style is a bit strange to me. They can either hit people at longer range, or go in and attack people in close range. (Similar to brushes) I just think their playstyle is a little strange.

@gamespy6632 15 күн бұрын

Both games have different uniquely stuff

@ToadTimewiiu 14 күн бұрын

Even tho Im blinded by nostalgia for 1 and 2, 3 has the 2nd best weapon designs 1 best and 2 worst (even tho 2 has the most) without nostalgia its #1 spoon 2 #2 1 #3 3

@SakuraHime10 15 күн бұрын

Splatoon 1 would have them all beat.

@Smiler-TL9 14 күн бұрын

What's the song in the intro?

@SaltyToad00 14 күн бұрын

Akuma's theme from Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike.

@Smiler-TL9 14 күн бұрын

@@SaltyToad00 thanks

@craftedsoapy6167 15 күн бұрын

I hope Splatoon 4 doesn’t add any more Weapon classes, and pulls a Splatoon 2 in terms of Main Weapon design. Expanding on abilities and mechanics is sorta what really pulls a fun weapon together. Meanwhile, I hope they keep the meta design of Splatoon 3.

@ItsWolf0 15 күн бұрын

I juet want the Dual Squelcher Back

@latesthope 15 күн бұрын

That weapon wasn't even that original of an idea, it's just a jet squelcher pretty much, not the most exciting weapon lol

@sonicrunn3r895 15 күн бұрын

I'm gonna be a bummer despite dualies being my favourite class but 4 out of 5 of them are quite literally shooters with a roll. Glooga (before its range buff) was quite literally just a 52 that had to roll before it could be a 52, Dualie Squelchers are quite literally a shooter turned into a dualie (and while cool, it was added to the game WITHOUT the slide gimmick reminder, so it just became stationary Dual Squelcher post roll), even regular dualies become a slightly longer ranged 30 damage splash'o'matic after a roll. It's great that S2 put in legwork to make them more distinct eventually but I cannot in good faith agree that they're “original” when I was there for their original release states. Tl;dr Brellas carried that point HARD (obviously)

@durdleduc8520 15 күн бұрын

"shooters with a roll" is a distinct concept though, that's kind of like saying that brushes are just fast rollers. like yes they are similar classes and tend to have similar strengths as a result, but having a dodge roll is a big changeup. it changes the decisions you have to make and the mechanics you engage with, which imo is what makes a class distinct, not its raw stats or role.

@sonicrunn3r895 14 күн бұрын

@@durdleduc8520 It does, and I know that. But from a fundamental standpoint, they were added to the game WAY too close to their original counterparts.