Which TIG Cup Works Best on Aluminum?

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Why do more welding professionals prefer this cup over others? There's a science to it which is what this episode is all about!
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@TheFabricatorSeries
@TheFabricatorSeries 2 жыл бұрын
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@tonyconrad2895
@tonyconrad2895 2 жыл бұрын
Your video was super awesome and had great information for welders looking to better their craft. I was a NDT inspector in Naval Ship repair for many years. One extremely big thing you failed mention but clearly you had done is, emphasize cleaning! Oil left on the surface will contaminat the weld bead. Burnt oxides present after a pass is clearly obvious when improper or lack of cleaning prior welding aluminum. Any metal to be honest.
@chrispoynton8642
@chrispoynton8642 2 жыл бұрын
I find number 6 cup works very well. You can always change the frequency to help the arc smaller. You get a much cleaner weld if you use 5 % helium with argon. and will generate more heat.
@afsarmstrongfiresafety7460
@afsarmstrongfiresafety7460 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best explanation of this topic I've ever seen. Keep up the good work.
@danzig440
@danzig440 2 жыл бұрын
First video I've watched where someone actually explains this properly, been struggling with getting the finer details of learning to tig weld ally and this has helped massively, thanks mate
@mikesilvestri5651
@mikesilvestri5651 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in-depth explanation like always Justin! Glad to see you back we all know you had a very busy summer but definitely looking forward to the next video! Definitely missed you! Keep it up brotha 🤘
@DCweldingAndArt
@DCweldingAndArt 2 жыл бұрын
Amen! Great to see u again Justin! Great video! KZfaq has missed u indeed
@TimWelds
@TimWelds 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! It’s funny, I pretty much always use a standard collet body and 5 cup on aluminum. Earlier today, I had some aluminum to run and there was a gas lens on the torch so my lazy self threw on a 7 cup and let’er rip. Half way through, I thought this works pretty good.
@Prettynoise
@Prettynoise 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap!!! That was super informative. I started experimenting with #12 cups with a gas lens on stainless steel and thought it would be good on aluminum. Sir, I am super grateful for the tip!!!!
@chrislowery185
@chrislowery185 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video. This actually solves a problem that I've been fighting. I never considered that my cup being to large was causing my issue. Excellent information. I noticed the issue but wasn't sure how to correct.
@danzig440
@danzig440 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@patrickbeer7865
@patrickbeer7865 2 жыл бұрын
Hey welcome back Justin been missing your videos! Love the how you explain everything exceptionally well keep up the great work!
@jonathanconway7256
@jonathanconway7256 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of what I have experienced running an 8 gas lens.
@hannielmarais8427
@hannielmarais8427 Жыл бұрын
Being a self taught tig welding rookie, I learn so much from your videos. Thank you for the awesome content.
@funkynerd_com
@funkynerd_com 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been using a #7 gas lens since forever and I can't even remember why anymore. It has always just worked form me. This has motivated me to try a #5 and see what I can see. I completely understand the "boring" technical theory here which I would like to see in practice for myself.
@roadracenut
@roadracenut 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was talked into a large gas lens a couple years ago. After watching this, I threw my original set up on my torch with a #5, and laid down one of my better aluminum welds.
@glenpiro313
@glenpiro313 2 жыл бұрын
This was an exceptional explanation man, thank you. You have that rare ability to explain stuff so regular humans can understand, thank you.
@Charlotte-ki2gh
@Charlotte-ki2gh Жыл бұрын
You were/are the gateway to my welding life. Thanks so much man for giving me the joy of knowledge to create
@richardj163
@richardj163 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to see you back! I’ve learned a lot from you Justin. Thank you.
@adamtankersley7441
@adamtankersley7441 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! These are things I already knew, but the reverse dartboard explanation was just great; and I’ll definitely be stealing that when I have to explain this in the future👍🏻👍🏻
@NKPGarage
@NKPGarage 2 жыл бұрын
I've been Tig welding for many years and never really put thought into the cup size for aluminum. Your explanation makes perfect sense. Thanks for taking the time to explain to us mortals!!
@jameswoodsist
@jameswoodsist 2 жыл бұрын
such a simple concept that can completely change the look of your welds. ive always wondered why i kept getting more and more cleaning action on my welds despite having bigger cups and higher CFH lol well now i know!
@richardfuerst5286
@richardfuerst5286 2 жыл бұрын
You have just explained some of the problems I'm having. Thank you. 👍
@3sgtepwnzr
@3sgtepwnzr 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin, this really helped a lot. In areas where I absolutely can’t get rid of gaps, I’ll run a #7 gas cup and stuff filler, but took your advice and the standard 5 is such a tighter and better look. Always appreciate your videos. Thanks! 👨‍🍳 💋
@cpcoark
@cpcoark 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I only have a stick start DC tig so I can't do aluminum, but these vidoes help me to know for the future. You are top notch for teaching videos.
@jakebklassen
@jakebklassen 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched 2 videos so far and have learned more then I have ever about welding in the 2 years of experience I have.
@AddictOfLearning
@AddictOfLearning 2 жыл бұрын
I love the short and sweet videos packed with tons of info!
@cesarortega6615
@cesarortega6615 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you back. Merry Christmas to you and your family
@andrewk157
@andrewk157 2 жыл бұрын
While I always enjoy your videos, this one was especially informative! Thank you very much! Please keep them up!
@brookecollier368
@brookecollier368 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! I usually use the #8 cup. I'm going to try the #5 tomorrow! 🤘
@jameskundmueller8410
@jameskundmueller8410 2 жыл бұрын
Very good and informative video. Giving the theoretical explanation and examples goes so much further to explain.
@everythingcool101
@everythingcool101 2 жыл бұрын
as always very informative and straight to the point! thanyou so much you are literally the best welding teacher on the net by a long shot!
@rodanone4895
@rodanone4895 2 жыл бұрын
one of the best aluminum welding explanations I've seen. bar none. what was great is that your explanation matched my observations in the last month where i tried a number ten furick cup.... needed twenty five cfh... random arcs... etc. thought i was doing something wrong. also noted, like you said, i increased the stick out... helped. but needed an additional 2-5 cfh... so by the time i get it running right... it sounds like a hissing snake spitting money during post flow lol... awesome to see you making new vids... thanks!!!
@marcelorolle6298
@marcelorolle6298 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you again.
@keithlincoln1309
@keithlincoln1309 2 жыл бұрын
Again, excellent explanation and makes total sense. Keep all your tips coming!
@joseygeorge9316
@joseygeorge9316 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah Justin!!! Keep em comin still Savin up for that prime weld
@jamessonger3
@jamessonger3 2 жыл бұрын
I could and HAVE watch ur videos all day lol. So much good info and learning. Keep up the great work man!
@melgross
@melgross 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, a very clear and excellent lesson.
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 Жыл бұрын
So good for a beginner like myself. Top shelf production too!
@skiptastic1000
@skiptastic1000 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for clearing that up.
@Comp670
@Comp670 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I always used way to big a cup and now I see why I had problems..
@JeffinTD
@JeffinTD Жыл бұрын
This was a most excellent and helpful discussion. Thank you for taking the time. PS just ordered the stubby 5 non-gas lens package.
@TheRealSlowhand
@TheRealSlowhand 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Justin... thnks buddy I really appreciate the sharing of your knowledge... Some day I'm hoping to make the short trip up to take a class from you and finally meet you....
@9Risky
@9Risky 2 жыл бұрын
These videos never disappoint me, who agrees?
@atomichydrogenweld2823
@atomichydrogenweld2823 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@aidaneckart5054
@aidaneckart5054 2 жыл бұрын
We've missed you! Welcome back. Great video.
@chevelleranch7481
@chevelleranch7481 2 жыл бұрын
Always informative! Thanks Justin!
@randyrussell4767
@randyrussell4767 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the information on all the Videos!!!
@DonxxSollozzo
@DonxxSollozzo 2 жыл бұрын
I find myself watching this video, without any preexisting plans to start welding. I don't know how I got here, still I have watched several of your videos. I don't have any reason why I need to weld, still I'm trying to persuade myself not to buy a TIG/MIG-welder... But it is tempting! I think the way you present the subjects and the format you choose contribute to that success. So keep up the great work!
@bluecollarracin524
@bluecollarracin524 2 жыл бұрын
Makes total sense now! I was using a Fupa cup on stainless but then switched to alum and noticed it was very hard to put down good welds. Now I know why, I'm going to try this later today!
@WELDER-UP
@WELDER-UP 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been combo welding for 17 years now. Struck my first arc when I was 10 years old. But This is the most detailed explanation video I’ve seen. Makes me wonder if I should be a KZfaqr lol. Well done man. Keep burning and earning
@troyd-motorsport9933
@troyd-motorsport9933 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for explaining, i was using a #5 and got my weld ok, but was told I should be using a #12 cup and have been struggling with it ever since (I have about 15mins total tig welding with the new machine). ill switch back to the #5 now thanks!
@MichalCiekanski
@MichalCiekanski 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back Justin.
@zchubzz8392
@zchubzz8392 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid, i had a hard time figuring this out when i first started
@adambergendorff2702
@adambergendorff2702 2 жыл бұрын
great explanation, I had never heard before
@frankbergstrom7621
@frankbergstrom7621 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip! I have been using a #8 cup with gas lens and my welds look just like yours with the same gear - well close anyway. Filet welds especially are difficult to get into the root without excess width. I'm off to the shop to try the #5 cup and standard body with high hopes.
@brianlittleforest631
@brianlittleforest631 Жыл бұрын
Best cup explanation on youtube . Ty sir.
@Liqudus
@Liqudus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I was just wondering about this the other day, guess I need to get some new cups!
@chargerman426
@chargerman426 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome table set up there. Thanks to Nick for getting that aluminum up off the table so I wasn’t so hunched over last week in my class.
@TheFabricatorSeries
@TheFabricatorSeries 2 жыл бұрын
I wondered about that setup since I was out of town. I actually kinda liked the elevated platform myself. Nick is really awesome at coming up with solutions and I'm glad to have him on our staff.
@chargerman426
@chargerman426 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFabricatorSeries Yeah he was great... only problem was he got me to buy a new Optrel 2.0 with 2.5x magnification lol. Being able to see the arc and everything up close with the magnification was a game changer for my stainless work. Still wish we could have chatted about our Vipers while i was there. Maybe next year when I'm back in Vegas.
@ButBigger42
@ButBigger42 2 жыл бұрын
@@chargerman426 I'm sorry. Lol. But now you can weld even more better.
@ttsupra87
@ttsupra87 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! I never knew! This all makes complete sense. I never would've thought of that. I've always used a #8
@Alkhaili94
@Alkhaili94 2 жыл бұрын
Well explained …. That was my problem from the beginning. Thanks man 👍🏻
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin, awesome as always
@Secondgen392hemi
@Secondgen392hemi Жыл бұрын
All I can say is thank you! Simply explained!
@davidkina5627
@davidkina5627 2 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense & like you said in other video's, stick to the basics that have been tried & true since the beginning.
@beebot
@beebot 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting - I've been running a #6 at 15CFS Argon on 16gauge coupons, but I'll try a #5 today and see how it works out. Thanks :-) solid explanation.
@atomichydrogenweld2823
@atomichydrogenweld2823 2 жыл бұрын
Justin , always great stuff.....cheers from Florida, Paul
@stevea3472
@stevea3472 2 жыл бұрын
Natural teacher. Wish I had him in high school.
@sarammika
@sarammika 2 жыл бұрын
I'll try this instead of my no7 standard cup then. great video
@paulmorrey733
@paulmorrey733 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin Great info
@jdmjesus6103
@jdmjesus6103 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I've ended up with a number 8 gas lens as my preferred setup, mainly because I like the extra coverage as it helps stop impurities, especially when working with old bits of cast. I'll try the 5 again though, it's been years since I did.
@tjbugeye
@tjbugeye 2 жыл бұрын
Order some more metal from Weld Metals the other day. Just came in the mail yesterday. Trying some of the thin metal this time.
@lorintreichler
@lorintreichler 2 жыл бұрын
For the love of all that is weldable, please keep doing these aluminum tips and explanation videos.
@23101979T
@23101979T Жыл бұрын
I like your style! Simple and thorough. Subscribed and thumbs up.
@countryracer69
@countryracer69 2 жыл бұрын
That explains why my 6 looks better at my shop than my weld at a friends with his 8. I need a smaller yet obviously. My buddy's welds all look like your #8 examples. Thank you sir.
@combsd3283
@combsd3283 3 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Cup size has always been very important to me as well.
@joeyleinart8354
@joeyleinart8354 2 жыл бұрын
Top notch explanation.
@johndeninger8905
@johndeninger8905 2 жыл бұрын
another great video justin, thanks pal
@Razor82347
@Razor82347 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video, thanks!
@spencer5082
@spencer5082 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing. I would live to see this setup on a CNC. That way there is absolutely NO difference other than the cup. I'm sure yours is close but you can tell the dip was different at a minimum. Regardless. Thanks!
@cdonuts7335
@cdonuts7335 Жыл бұрын
Just started to Tig aluminium it's been 3 days adjusting amps, AC Hz, AC balance I'm getting better but it wasn't till I put a No 5 cup on that I saw improvement. Thanks
@Elvirth24
@Elvirth24 2 жыл бұрын
I make hardtop cabins for 30 foot aluminum fishing boats, and I generally use a #6 with a little bit of stickout for TIGing grab handles, corners, etc. Seems to work alright. Used to use a 5 but it just never turned out quite right.
@madmaul8961
@madmaul8961 2 жыл бұрын
Man this video came at the perfect time!!!
@jhowse19801
@jhowse19801 2 жыл бұрын
I was running a #6 on 15cfh argon. I'll switch it to a #5 and 12cfh and give it a whirl. Save a few cfh... literally, lol. My issue was dirty aluminum that I got out of a scrap pile. Cleaned it with a stainless steel brush and some acetone but was still getting black shit in my weld pool. I put my torch down and put in an order for 40 coupons from Weld Metals Online. It's on it's way. Thanks for the tip!!!
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 2 жыл бұрын
A great video , lots of information shared.
@fishhuntadventure
@fishhuntadventure 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s always useful to know the why’s and how’s and not just the rule of ‘if-this-do-that’
@stearlingestes4213
@stearlingestes4213 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this informative video.
@christart8461
@christart8461 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks !! I just learned something ! 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
@rockyrivermushrooms529
@rockyrivermushrooms529 Жыл бұрын
Really good video!
@tomr1107
@tomr1107 2 жыл бұрын
With the help of your videos I was able to get proficient enough with my TIG setup to custom make a twin turbo kit for my 350z. Cheers.
@davidk5677
@davidk5677 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for the input 👍
@lukeburkill7767
@lukeburkill7767 2 жыл бұрын
I've tried all the cups, there is about 2mm etching difference between 5-12 with the stubby gass lense however if you turn the amps up the smaller cups don't cool the weld enough so my findings are if you use more gas you end up with a shinier weld which I'd prefer over 1mm of etch line
@davidalgarin4635
@davidalgarin4635 2 жыл бұрын
This video answered a lot that I always wondered about welding aluminum. Glad to see a TFS video again!!
@DustinApple
@DustinApple 2 жыл бұрын
i simply cant run a Ally5 as good as 8 pro glass. especially on outside corner joints where gas coverage is harder to achieve. i could care less about a etching line cause in a few months it all looks the same.
@fsj197811
@fsj197811 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for the knowledge dump!
@ericrudoph3471
@ericrudoph3471 2 жыл бұрын
well done.... thanks. I love a #5 on aluminum
@tomchryplewicz1360
@tomchryplewicz1360 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great content. Could you make a recommendation on a tungsten sharpener? Thanks again!
@jorgeeduardopatziarispe2730
@jorgeeduardopatziarispe2730 2 жыл бұрын
Really good. Thank you
@ernestgary6812
@ernestgary6812 3 ай бұрын
Lol... I had no idea that a #5 or #8 was the preferred cups by seasoned aluminum welders... I've been welding for 20+ stick, mig, fluxcore... 4 years ago I returned to a old job and noticed a lincon 370 precision tig machine just collecting dust. So I hooked it up and became the aluminum welder lol, long story short I run a 1/8" gas lenz with a #8 cup just because it felt right😂
@gordowg1wg145
@gordowg1wg145 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you posting again - I knew you were still above ground from your feature on Rob Dahm's channel a week or two back 😎 How is the truck build going?
@jobuck893
@jobuck893 2 жыл бұрын
Great information Thank you
@NelsonBarbero
@NelsonBarbero Жыл бұрын
Exelente videos! Gracias por compartir!!!!!! Sería bueno que los traduzca a español! Un gran abrazo desde Argentina!
@larryegilman1
@larryegilman1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information, YOU have been missed....
@craigwilhelm7335
@craigwilhelm7335 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! You’re back bud! 🤘🏻
@vintagespeed
@vintagespeed 2 жыл бұрын
thanks! good stuff.
@silverssonyoutube8438
@silverssonyoutube8438 Жыл бұрын
Depends what your gonna do though , if im welding something really thick on crazy high ampa that small 5 cup is gonna glow like crazy
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