That’s great to hear, since my friend was giving me 2 to play before I get 1. Just checking tho, you don’t think that the final boss or moments or whatever they are (I heard a bit about them but don’t know the full spoilers so I’m still in the dark lol) are less good without playing 1 first? I’ll still probably play 2 and Torna first, but I do want whatever gives the best experience for these amazing looking games

@@DavidHosey1 In my opinion the ending of 2 still blew my mind and made total sense on its own, without knowing anything at all about 1. I disagree with OJ here - He suggested reading up on the ending to 1 first if you play 2 first - DON'T do that! The ending will blow your mind if you go into it blind, and it totally works on its own without knowing anything. Playing 1 second was fine, for me, narrative wise. They're ostensibly standalone games in their own worlds, but let's just say there are certain thematic similarities between the 2 stories. But I wouldn't say anything else bc I feel like the more you know the less fun it'll be. Suffice it to say it's totally fine to play 2 first, and please don't look up anything if you can avoid it!

I think you will fall in love with either of the two that you play first. 1 was a cone down for me after I played 2

I enjoyed Torna more than Main Game.

@Nhat Anh Hoang Yeah I pretty much did all of this and beat him my first try

Chronological order lol

Never left the area until I swam all over that map, the same happened at Makna Forest 😅

correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the map fill automatically after finding every secret area

@@joemilton9531 yes it does

@@joemilton9531 👀hmm?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@darthmagavader9722 yep, just get all the locations and the full map is cleared

Agreed. Also the Fetch quests in XC2 can be tiresome. Still love the game.

@@coreyatherley8903 while 2 uses fetch quests quite a bit like the first game, I think 2 had more narrative variety in said side quests. The first game went more overboard with them always having a couple NPC’s in each new area asking you to take care of troublesome monsters and gathering drops for reconstruction. The only somewhat interesting one I can think of off the top of my head because of how drowning it was the menial ones is the fetch quests for the Curry Shop in Colony 9. I know there are a fairly high amount of long and engaging side quests I’m forgetting, but balance wise I think Xenoblade 2 had more variety when it came the NPC quests. On the other hand Blade Charts did require a fair bit of hunting, so though those aren’t NPC quests, you still end up hunting monster about as much I suppose. I like what they did with a lot of the Side Quests in the Torna DLC and hope they improve from one main entry to the next. Speaking of quests tho, Xenoblade X I’d say probably has some of the best, but also still has plenty of the generic ones to accompany them. 🙃

If they fix some of the issues with the WiiU version like the fetch quests and collision detection, i may double dip but the gamepad was so nice I worry that the Switch version would be far inferior.

I'm with you, Xenoblade Chronicles X remaster would make me double dip without thinking twice about it

I want them to port X. First xenoblade game I played. Loved it

Yes

Play 2

I’ll dig more into XC Definitive Edition after I complete Octopath Traveler.

Play 2 or Definitive Edition

I agree.

I agree that the combat in 2 is more complex and you can do more strategical moves BUT I think its just far to slow and battles take too long because the design is rooting in this. thats the simple reason why i like XC1 battle system more also the story and the characters are not so super extreme anime clichees

@@nuclearbeeberman if you understand how to use pouch items and how to utilize elemental weaknesses with Blade and Driver Combos then the combat is actually quite fast if not A bit faster than Xenoblade 1. Look up some of Enel’s videos to see, but even without his level of optimization it’s still pretty comparable if you utilize all the battle elements!

i agree huge fan of 1 when the 2 came out i was excited but flow of the game is so hit or miss i was struggling to like the game on some points in the game

I can relate, I absolutely love xenoblade 1 and x but 2’s combat felt slow and clunky with the voice direction being very mediocre. The characters are okay except for the nopon and Rex, Rex is a bratty child who complains and then pyra cheers him up with no consequences to his head first actions.

i recommend playing xeno 1 first i wont tell u why but u do what better for u

2 is awesome

@@mikedusenbery6464 My Switch doesn't have enough storage.

@@agents5307 a decent size micro sd card isn't expensive. Just looked it up and a 256GB micro sd is under $35

I really wish Nintendo would print more physical copies and just sell them through their online site if retailers aren’t interested in carrying stock anymore. But oh well, I think them doing this would be very unlikely and it’s just crazy how much the physical Xenoblade 2 games have gone up in the second hand market and certainly didn’t expect my 4 North American Special Editions to become this potentially profitable less then 3 & a half years later after release, but I don’t know if I’ll ever sell or trade them since I love this series, I even have one copy of the European Special Edition for Xenoblade 2, which means I have 5 special editions for it in total! I went a bit overboard in my excitement for the game and Best Buy’s Gamers Club made it all the more enticing with savings basically paying for one of the copies alone 😂.

@@mikedusenbery6464 My 32GB micro SD is out of storage. And same for my system memory.

you should play gears, XB1 is kinda a watered down version of its story and its also more character focused(like XB2) and give villains more screen time

@@metroidcypher i have played gears. It does have a great story but I like xenoblade 1s more. And i like the gameplay of xenoblade a whole lot more too

100% agree. XCDE is my favorite game of all time and while the other two are good it just isnt a contest imo.

@Nhat Anh Hoang I like all the cast of 2 except for Rex. I legitimately cannot stand him and he has made my 2 playthroughs of 2 way worse. 1 has a cast that to me is perfect. I love all of the main cast. There is never a moment in 1 where I have a complaint about the main cast. The only character I dislike is Juju but I don’t hate him. There are so many times throughout 2 where Rex made me want to stop playing the game and that is a big problem since he is the main character. There are a lot of opinions that I disagree with in the Xenoblade series that I can at least understand and respect. However, I cannot understand or respect how anyone could like Rex

@Nhat Anh Hoang I never said Rex didn’t have a hard life or that he never had development, and I didn’t even say that I think Shulk had more development than Rex. I said I hate Rex. This you cannot change my mind on. I don’t even like Shulk that much tbh. He is my 6th favorite party member in 1. I just said that I like the cast of 1 way more overall than 2

@Nhat Anh Hoang Yes, really. I love Mythra/Pyra, Nia/Dromarch, Poppi, Morag/Brigid and Zeke/Pandoria. Even Tora is solid and the villains of 2 are great as well. However, I like Melia, Dunban, Reyn, Fiora, Riki and the villains of 1 way more than them and Shulk and Sharla are not far behind. Rex is one of my least favorite characters out of any work of fiction period. I still think Xenoblade 2 is a fantastic game and I think your reasoning behind why you like the cast of two more is fine. I do not agree with it. There is nothing anyone could ever say to make me like any aspect of 2 more than 1. I have heard so many people explain their reasons for it all. The gameplay, the story, the music, the characters, all of it. So many people try to convince or even argue with me to try and change my mind. It will never work. Xenoblade 1 is my favorite work of fiction and nothing even comes close.

@Nhat Anh Hoang Yeah I have heard both songs many times. Both are in my main music playlist. Both made me cry the first time I heard them. I like Beyond The Sky more.

I still haven't been able to "find" xenoblade chronicles 2...

@@mr_m4613 yea digital works tho. They probably won’t reprint so it’s the only way that we’ve can get it

@@DavidHosey1 yeah guess ill have to do it that way then 👍

more? what do u mean there is plenty of copies or is this just US problem

I think Xenoblade Chronicles X 2 will probably be one of MonolithSoft's and Nintendo's next upcoming projects, since that game left the player on a cliffhanger at the end. 😁

Would rather have a Xenoblade 3, want a new character in the mix and a great story.

@@PurposeDriven7_, well, that's why Xenoblade Chronicles X 2 would be needed.

@Nhat Anh Hoang That's possible, but Xenoblade X had skells were 2 didn't. Xenoblade 1 had an amazing story where 2....not so much. 2 was the weak link in my opinion. It felt far way from Xenogears than any Xenoblade or Xenosaga game. If it wasn't for the music of Xenoblade 2, I would have stopped playing in chapter 3 because the art style just took me out of the game. I *never* thought art style could negatively effect a game til Xenoblade 2. Oops, I didn't mean to go on a rant about the issues I had with Xenoblade 2. I'm aware some people like this. A different art style, no RNG blade system and a better protagonist would fix all of my issues. (With the exception of art style, Torna fixed all of my issues) I'm grateful for all those who liked Xenoblade 2. It means the series will continue on. I see that as a win.

@Nhat Anh Hoang i disagree what virtually everything you just wrote here. I'll agree Xenoblade 2 has a more flushed out story than X, but it's nowhere near as good as Xenoblade 1 and it doesn't have the horrible art style holding it back. As far as combat, 2 was the worst out of the bunch. Its too cluttered, limited since getting blades were a nightmare. The tutorials for Xenoblade two were terrible (another thing Torna did right) While the first Xenoblade combat was on the simple side, Xenoblade 2 was too busy and complicated. Xenoblade X combat was a mix of both. It can be simple, but doing character quest and the customization opens up *so much* . I've had more fun playing X than both Xenoblade 1 and 2. And all of this isn't including the Skells. That alone puts it above both Xenoblade 1 and 2. I have no problem saying Xenoblade X story isn't the best or the game has flaws, but it's story even though incomplete is more engaging than Xenoblade 2. That art style just killed most of the emotional scenes and ruined the impact for me. Xenoblade 1 has the least amont of issues and does just about everything right. Xenoblade X have a few issues, but the gameplay, exploration makes up for its downfalls Xenoblade 2 has far too many issues. If i didn't have such a love of the Xeno series and the music wasn't as good as it was, I would have stopped playing by Chapter 3. The art style is that bad! This would have been the first Xeno game I couldn't complete. Torna was a vast improvement over 2. Better characters overall, good character development, a polish combat system, *no RNG blade system!* If Xenoblade 2 played like Torna, have Lara as the main character than Rex, no stupid loot box blades, I would have rated it *much* higher in my list of games I enjoy I'm in the camp where I enjoyed Xenosage 2. I hated Shion in Xenosage 1 but got though the game because I'm a fan on the directors. Xenosaga 2 wasn't foucing on Shion so it was a vast improvement it was the first game I played that I cares so much about the story that I was trying to skip the gameplay. (Weird, I know) With all that said, Xenosaga 3 was sooo good! Its one of my favorite games overall. Even Shion was great in it! The only criticism I can come up with is the game felt rushed towards the end because the series was sadly canceled. To sum up. I love Xenoblale 1 over all the Xenoblade games, but I had more fun with Xenoblade X. Xenoblade 2 had far too many issues for me. That art style is just so bad that I finally can relate to those who can't play games that don't visually appeal to them. That soundtrack got me though visual my dealbreaker moments.

@Nhat Anh Hoang It sounds like you're only defending a game because someone has a different opinion than yourself. Rex felt like he didn't develop into a decent character. Those around him did. (I liked alot of the Nia stuff that was some good character development) but not him. He still felt like a child I couldn't relate to at the end. Lora didn't have this problem in Torna. I also didn't like the Rex Pyra relationship crap. That felt like pedolite bait. (Technically Hepohaiila) A grown woman hitting on a kid? That's cringry to me. I just couldn't accept this, thus there couldn't be any immersion. Without immersion into a game, I can't pickup on subtle ques not being told directly in the story. Xenoblade 1 was extremely good at this. For clarity, *I'm not saying those who like Xenoblade 2 are bad people or have horrible tastes* just that I personally have issues with the game. It was one of my biggest fears of the Monolith Soft team being effected by the Nintendo buyout. Nintendo have the representation on kidding up IPs they buy or use. That's exactly what they did to Xenoblade 2.

@Nhat Anh Hoang Thank you for proving my point. No matter what I say, you will blindly support Xenoblade 2. I didn't expect to to share spoilers so I won't touch that.(even though I can point to a few actions that backs up why I still felt he was childish/immature during this area and the boss fight.... And I know things is unrelated, but I did enjoy the final area) But I was talking specifically about the Xeno series since that's the one I care the most about. (That and Final Fantasy. I had to drop Suikoden because of how bad Suikoden 5 was and Dropped Breath of fire because of Dragon Quater) I'm gonna ignore the Loli argument because I don't think you realise what you're arguing for (hint it's the same argument Pedos make) You say I'm ignoring Rex character moments, but I think you're not understanding what I'm saying since I'm doing my best to avoid spoilers. Remember when I brought up chapter 3? It had an emotional portion at the end. I *could not* get anything from said emotional scene because of the art style. If it wasn't for the music, I wouldn't have figured out what they were trying on convey to the audience. It was that bad for me. Again just incase it was missed, acknowledge that Xenoblade 2 has a complete story. Meaning its more story focued than Xenoblade X. However Xenoblade X incomplete story was better to me because many of the issues holding Xenoblade 2 story backs isn't in the way of the Xenoblade X story.

@Nhat Anh Hoang More spoliers!?! Perhaps I should ignore you from now on to keep others to keep others from getting spoiled on these games. Unlike you, I still want others to play these games. (even the horrible art style of Xenoblade 2)

Play 2

okey that's interesting. here they are 40€

Yeah, and you won't. It's been out of print for years, I got my copy in August 2018 when the game was already seeing less and less shelf time. After the Smash entry for Pyra, the games have shot up to near $120. Torna physically is gone too, although I found a new copy in a WalMart this last summer to keep sealed, and just Saturday I found a copy of XC2 factory sealed in a store called 2nd&Charles, which I couldn't even believe. I'll be keeping it sealed as well

@@koba2348 damn you're lucky. I looked everywhere, even in the vintage mom and pop stores. Hell I last saw torna in a Target a couple of years ago. Nowhere to be found now. If Nintendo was smart they'd reprint them for an extra 2 million.

@@mr_m4613 I hadn't been in the store for awhile, and something made me stop on Saturday night on my way home from the grocery store. They use mock-ups to display their Switch games, but regardless I immediately grabbed it off the shelf because I wanted a second copy and haven't seen it on retail shelves in years, and was so surprised when she handed me a sealed copy. Their sticker on the back says it's been on their shelf since it came out in 2017.

Solid point..

Torna was my first XC experience and I absolutely loved it. I put probably 100 hours into it and completed pretty much everything the game had to offer. I just finished XC1 a couple weeks ago and now I’m 60 hours into XC3 and absolutely love them both as well. I’ve played a decent amount of XC2 but I wasn’t crazy about it, but I’ll be giving it another chance soon. And I’ve played a little bit of XCX and enjoyed it but I don’t really drag my Wii U out very often.