Whisker Biscuit vs Dropaway Rest

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Average Jack Archery

Average Jack Archery

7 жыл бұрын

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@VIpown3d
@VIpown3d 3 жыл бұрын
3 years after uploading and this guy still goes around giving hearts to commenters. What a madlad
@endzoneproductions4732
@endzoneproductions4732 3 жыл бұрын
nice
@lemoneasy2760
@lemoneasy2760 3 жыл бұрын
more like he’s hearting them cause this is his most popular video
@jbolin105
@jbolin105 7 жыл бұрын
I've bowhunted for 30years. In my opinion the whisker biscuit is the best hunting rest of all time. If I was a target shooter I would shoot a drop away. I just like the simplicity and reliability of the whisker biscuit for hunting.
@thomasanderson1783
@thomasanderson1783 7 жыл бұрын
its a walmart block target but pretty good. i will try paper thing but dont know how yet. hopefully my pro shop guy will help
@baghaei90
@baghaei90 6 жыл бұрын
Unless you live in a place where the whisker biscuit can get wet and then freeze.
@mdseelbach5894
@mdseelbach5894 6 жыл бұрын
drop rest allows arrow to move around and make noise, also does make a scraping sound while drawing the bow for a shot. i like whisker biscuit
@undeserved1781
@undeserved1781 6 жыл бұрын
they make waterproofing to prevent freezing works on feather fletching as well as vanes and arrows water cant freeze to surfaces
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 6 жыл бұрын
Orlando Pockets what do you think 🤔
@bluegill2030
@bluegill2030 3 жыл бұрын
The Whisker Biscuit is hands downs the best rest. Simple setup and tunes in 2-3 shots every time. I’ve used them at 3D shoots and absolutely drilled the targets out to 80 yds
@LadybugAdventures
@LadybugAdventures 7 жыл бұрын
Fewer points of failure is what I go for. It all comes down to practicing with what you have. Good job on the video.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@pensnut08
@pensnut08 6 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a new bow from the shop. I have had a W/B since they came out. I was considering a drop away... But why? No moving parts on the W/B and if something has moving parts... It will fail.
@raybruce9522
@raybruce9522 Жыл бұрын
@@pensnut08 I just had my QAD fail.
@brianlew9559
@brianlew9559 Жыл бұрын
Now this is how to do an instructive video. Quick and smooth, right to the point and great pacing of speech. No annoying um's or up talking and clear examples. Nice job.
@billpeirce7127
@billpeirce7127 5 жыл бұрын
Sticking with my whiskerbiscut. Lighter and very reliable.
@andrewlyon4692
@andrewlyon4692 4 жыл бұрын
Been a biscuit hunter since they came out. This year, new bow, drop away rest, absolutely love it!!
@Cr0cket20
@Cr0cket20 7 жыл бұрын
Great content and delivery. as many have already mentioned I'm new to the whole archery thing and find your vids very helpful.
@guitjolin
@guitjolin 3 жыл бұрын
I had a biscuit on a bow when they first came out. Drew on a deer that was about 15yds. The sound of the arrow against the whiskers as I drew was so audible he busted me instantly. Never used one since.
@steveball9094
@steveball9094 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure it wasn't your sleeve from your coat? A touch of scent free silicone does the trick
@guitjolin
@guitjolin Жыл бұрын
@@steveball9094 I am 100% sure
@mroriginal1984
@mroriginal1984 6 жыл бұрын
This was great. My wife and I are getting back into it from the 90's. So much has changed.
@chrisknackstedt1168
@chrisknackstedt1168 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just getting into bow hunting and this video was a huge help in aiding me in making a decision on which type of rest to get or recommend to a friend that is just getting into bow hunting. Thank you!!
@drawstraw4483
@drawstraw4483 5 жыл бұрын
You have a good sense of our questions here at home, and I am always pleased with the answers. Thank you
@louisbailey4900
@louisbailey4900 4 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best video on the web,about rests.
@waynesexton8621
@waynesexton8621 3 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos. I am just getting started in recurve and archery in general. You have a very calming way of explaining things. Thank you. 👍
@dustinpaul8968
@dustinpaul8968 4 жыл бұрын
Love my whisker biscuit. I’m just a hunter been using the same one since 2011. Great reliable rest fail proof.
@dad3562
@dad3562 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video! Well done,
@MrShodizzle
@MrShodizzle 6 жыл бұрын
I use a hostage rest, but have been considering a drop away. One thing I haven't seen anyone mention in the comments is sound.. although it may sound trivial, the sound of an arrow being drawn across a full containment rest is something to consider. Especially in the colder months when the air is less dense and sound travels more freely. I only mention this because this past weekend I drew on a nice eight point that was walking by at about 15 yards and the sound made him pause right behind a tree. I held on him as long as I could but eventually had to let down and again the sound spooked him. He ran 30 yards away, snorted profusely in my direction and eventually walked off. In my experience this indicates he neither saw nor smelled me, but the sound is what caught his attention. Whitetail deer have 6 times more powerful hearing than you or I. There's my two cents..
@ThereAreOnly2Genders05
@ThereAreOnly2Genders05 Жыл бұрын
Most drop away rests come with moleskin to take away that sound
@martineaubrosoutdoors5318
@martineaubrosoutdoors5318 4 жыл бұрын
Ive used a whisker biscuit forever and its never let me down ive shot up to 80 meters with 6” grouping
@danielww9022
@danielww9022 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I just bought my first bow today. It came with a drop away, so I'm happy about that. I'm video bingeing, trying to learn all I can about this new-found love of mine.
@fourstarrjim
@fourstarrjim 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I have a Darton bow for about 25 years now, and I cannot believe how much the equipment has changed over the years. I just upgraded to a scope site, with fiber optic pins. I want to up grade my rest also, but couldn’t decide which style to choose. I think I’m going with the biscuit. Thanks again.
@ramos208
@ramos208 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think people should question if this dude hunts or not. He is informing about the different rest out on the market, it's good information. Someone that takes the time to inform you about different products shouldn't be questioned on how far he shoots or if he even hunts. I have been hunting with a bow for a long time I prefer a drop away rest if you've been hunting since your teens and now in your mid 50 you should understand that products now days are better made. Great job on your video covered rest on point
@pickin4you
@pickin4you 5 жыл бұрын
He's young. Does not have the decades of experience many of us have.
@Echosfading
@Echosfading 7 жыл бұрын
And... Subscribed. I'm new to archery, but have always been fascinated with it. I'll be getting a compound bow soon, so your channel has really helped me learn. I'm a pre teen btw. My dad knows a lot about bows, but never used /knows much about the whisker biscuit. So this video is really helpful. Thanks, and keep doing what you're doing!
@brycehiigel235
@brycehiigel235 3 жыл бұрын
Went from whisker biscuit to drop away. I found with all the shooting I was doing is the whisker biscuit was causing my arrow shafts to get rough and the vanes to start curling. The QAD gives me full containment and never had an issue
@Cantshred777
@Cantshred777 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 12 months into archery and i started with a biscuit on a Reezen. I can shoot reasonably well with a biscuit, but I've recently upgraded to a v3x with a epsilon. Straight off the bat i can see why so much vane contact might be a bad idea . I don't have vanes flying off at random anymore and am much more accurate at 70m now. I can see a place for both and some of my arrow builds shood up to the friction without failing, but the shooting experience i have now is much more enjoyable and consistent. I still have a long way to go but feel as though I'm off to a good start. Thank you very much for the videos, what I've achieved in 12 months would've taken me years once upon a time and for that, I'm very grateful.
@RobTheCloserRacing
@RobTheCloserRacing 6 жыл бұрын
Just getting into archery. Your videos are super informative. Feel like I can turn to your videos for anything I need to learn.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 6 жыл бұрын
Rob The Closer Glad I can be so helpful!
@theobserver9131
@theobserver9131 3 жыл бұрын
Just getting back into archery. I used to shoot as a teenager and I liked it but got distracted by many other things. I have two bows now, and found that the local bow guy is backed up for months.... my area needs another bow guy and I plan to be him! Starting my crash course today. I'm a general handy man, and I can fix almost anything around the house from lawn mowers to plumbing, electrical to carpentry and more.... I'm ready for a new skill.
@BillE20101
@BillE20101 6 жыл бұрын
Very good! You were informative, stayed to point, offered pros & cons with open opinions on both products....Excellent.
@claya.4226
@claya.4226 7 жыл бұрын
These videos are so well made and informative. He's to-the-point and well-spoken.
@zackslick2505
@zackslick2505 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative and well explained, one of the best formatted videos I’ve seen
@labtrainer09
@labtrainer09 7 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT in every respect. Clear, articulate delivery. Love the emphasis on common sense and cost.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
Chris Cornell Thanks so much! God bless.
@gunners4129
@gunners4129 3 жыл бұрын
Was not expecting this level of professionalism from this video. Great job 👍👍
@seanbrostrom7016
@seanbrostrom7016 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, great and informative and kept it simple and easy to follow for a new archery guy!
@mattmattigan5036
@mattmattigan5036 7 жыл бұрын
In a sea of Archery channels, I dig this one, nice video, I'll be subscribing.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
Matt Hall Thanks so much! Glad you enjoy the content. God bless.
@rickt1154
@rickt1154 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a bow hoping to use it this fall on whitetails. I've hunted with a crossbow for over 30 years and would like to take a buck with a compound before I get too old. The bow came with a biscuit rest, and after watching several videos, I believe I'm going to stick with it. Primarily because of the simplicity of it. I've mastered deer hunting with a gun and crossbow, but a compound is a whole different animal. The less that can go wrong the better. Thanks for the excellent video and information.
@rogermabry2816
@rogermabry2816 2 жыл бұрын
I am 54 just getting back into the bow scene . So much has changed . Thanks you did a great job helping me .
@davidwirls8969
@davidwirls8969 3 жыл бұрын
Very good commentary. You did a excellent job in presenting the pros and cons. Thank you.
@Fred-eg9sx
@Fred-eg9sx 4 жыл бұрын
everyone wanting more speed. Meanwhile I'm tryna figure out whats the heaviest arrow and field tip I can possibly launch accurately. I think I've made a mortar-bow lol...
@michael4265
@michael4265 3 жыл бұрын
im just over here trying to have the best of both worlds
@litemetal
@litemetal 3 жыл бұрын
Sean McVay from Sean’s Outdoor adventures , has a great video on Heavy Shaft w/ heavy F.O.C. Vs. well tuned bow. Worth checking out.
@daddoesthings9461
@daddoesthings9461 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@bjk1234xoxo
@bjk1234xoxo 3 жыл бұрын
Same best of both worlds.
@backyardarcher9471
@backyardarcher9471 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! My son and I took up archery almost a year ago (a year in March) I have considered a drop away but, as a maintenance mechanic, I was always shy of potential failure. This video seals it for me. I will keep my Whisker Biscuit. I will get a nicer one but I have been happy with the performance. The brushes on my hostage are showing significant wear now so, its time to replace the rest that came on the bow. Next upgrade will be string.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
Backyard Archer Glad I was able to help solidify your decision! Happy shooting!
@figgyfig4142
@figgyfig4142 6 жыл бұрын
If it's an actual "Whisker Bisquit" by Trophy Ridge, they sell just the replacement brush cartridge. Not sure on the other brands though...
@figgyfig4142
@figgyfig4142 6 жыл бұрын
Lololol. I just realized you wrote that a year ago... Nevermind..
@DrumsTenorsax
@DrumsTenorsax 4 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation, have not bow hunted for years and thinking about getting back into it since moving back to the midwest.
@tommymorton7779
@tommymorton7779 3 жыл бұрын
I have a whisker brisket myself. I just started its great and the info was awesome. Thankyou
@justsomecoolprayingmantisd6422
@justsomecoolprayingmantisd6422 3 жыл бұрын
Lol whisker brisket 😂. I know what you meant, but it was funny reading that. Good luck hunting this year! I’m ready for season to start 👍🏻🤘🏻🙌🏻
@robertzeurunkl8401
@robertzeurunkl8401 4 жыл бұрын
I'm brand new (and LATE - ie, I'm 55) to archery/bow hunting, and I gotta say, it's kind of a new feeling to be learning something from the younger generation that knows more than I do about something! ;-) I had a buddy help me sight and use the peep sight, and once I saw that you can actually shoot with accuracy, well, all I can say is that I've taken to this with the same zeal and drive that has propelled me through a 35 year career as a software developer. Thanks, young man! (I feel strange just saying that! haha)
@gixxxer1k
@gixxxer1k 3 жыл бұрын
i have a mathews with a trophy ridge whisker biscuit. it absolutely loves eating fletchings off gold tip hunter arrows. this year i decided to "trim" the whiskers up like the one you had on hand there, seems to be a bit better, might get more aggressive with my trimming now that i know its a viable option seeing that they manufacture them like that. thanks pal
@dyland2773
@dyland2773 5 жыл бұрын
Great video im new to the sport and trying to figure out the best set up and this realy helped thank you. You got a new sub looking forward to more videos.
@MaggiesDaddy213
@MaggiesDaddy213 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I just opened up the box and removed the Vertix I won at RMEF. Been using a WB for several years and consideration of a drop away on the new bow brought me here. No real reason to change and this video backs that up!
@aarow019
@aarow019 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Well thought out explanation. I currently shoot whisker biscuit for simplicity and the fact that 90% of the shots I take are less than 40 yards. However I do practice out to 80. I think accuracy is more on me than the rest...
@AndrewBoundy
@AndrewBoundy 6 жыл бұрын
Just getting into it - your videos are a big help - thanks man!
@steveg9863
@steveg9863 3 жыл бұрын
Solid breakdown, thanks for the info in a tight but thorough package!
@paulterry9616
@paulterry9616 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job on the video! Great detailed information, especially for someone look at who is new to the sport.
@AtomkeySinclair
@AtomkeySinclair 6 жыл бұрын
Nice talk man - thanks for taking the time to publish this content...
@TavilsonHeadBangers
@TavilsonHeadBangers 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content friend. I've been wanting an explanation like that for a while now. Regards.
@mannyp812000
@mannyp812000 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful... I’m new into archery (I love it) and I’m almost 40 year old😱... so I guess it’s never too late for a semi old gun guy to learn a new trade..
@douglasmcmillan5412
@douglasmcmillan5412 2 жыл бұрын
I watched your video a couple of times and purchased one. I think this will help my hunting better this spring. I bought a bow used and wanted bring it more up to date and improve the accuracy
@VengefulPolititron
@VengefulPolititron 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for succinct and clear spoken information! You've helped me alot!
@Silvr_Scream
@Silvr_Scream 7 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your video. Very informative and you are well spoken. Keep them coming!
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
MotoPsycho09 Thank you so much! It's my pleasure to make them. God bless.
@bvsproductions9021
@bvsproductions9021 6 жыл бұрын
I just had my ripcord drop away freeze up while shooting at a nice buck last week. (Never dropped) First time it has ever failed me. I will be switching to a whisker biscuit next year.
@EthanPDobbins
@EthanPDobbins 5 жыл бұрын
Good! Those things are garbage. Full containment never fails
@pengkha7576
@pengkha7576 5 жыл бұрын
If it's in the 20's and below and snow on the ground you have to worry about getting the whisker biscuit wet. The whiskers will ice up.
@KingKillersKastleKKK
@KingKillersKastleKKK 5 жыл бұрын
cody hockenberry you weren’t there dumb ass.
@KingKillersKastleKKK
@KingKillersKastleKKK 5 жыл бұрын
Peng Kha so? With the one he has the fletchings pass through the openings.
@bbqbum0077
@bbqbum0077 4 жыл бұрын
I hear stories like this ALL the time with drop away releases.
@IntuitiveUniversity
@IntuitiveUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't picked up a compound bow in 10 years until I recently. I got a new bow with a drop away rest and as an adult I find it fun having to tune everything.
@edr8915
@edr8915 6 жыл бұрын
Dude...you need to open your own pro shop. You are by far the most well spoken and informed archer I have come across. I would drive from Fl to just have you work on my bow. Hate the fact you’re a Pittsburgh penguin fan..but hey..nobody is perfect ;-)
@Fireworxs2012
@Fireworxs2012 7 жыл бұрын
This was an interesting video....Thanks...I'm in my mid 50's, been bow hunting since I was in my teens. Lost track of how many animals I've taken with my Bows over the years but it's in the triple digits somewhere...I come from the Flipper Rest generation and I have tried them all...And I mean all of them......I shoot to hunt. When I tried the Dropaway's, all I had was tuning issues. Not to mention a drop away rest will not keep the arrow on the rest if you cant or slant the bow.. Simply cannot beat Whisker Biscuit's for arrow security, durability, consistency & reliability & affordability. Something you don't talk about here is keeping the arrow in a shooting position while stalking or moving through tall grass or brush..(which makes me wonder if you actually hunt)...That is where full capture rests like the Biscuit really shine....Personally, 40 yards is my absolute maximum with most of my real world kill shots coming in between 10 & 25 yards. I shoot heavy arrows & heavy broadheads (over 600 grains) ... Again, the Biscuit wins..If you are truly worried about speed, (I'm not because I took the time to actually learn how to shoot a bow)...you can trim the Biscuit with a pair of scissors or nail clippers and minimize arrow bristle contact. IMHO...One of the major problems with modern archers & archery is that you guys keep trying to turn your bows into a rifle. Learn how to shoot and velocity becomes a non issue. Arrows kill with momentum which is about mass & inertia not speed...
@aj-ig6mg
@aj-ig6mg 7 жыл бұрын
Fireworxs2012 thank you! I've seen many videos criticizing the whisker biscuit for slowing the arrow by a few feet per second. especially at 40 yds or longer. In my case I also shoot to hunt and only practice out to 35 yards being that most of my shooting lanes are under 30 where I hunt. my biscuit will be just as deadly at 20 yards as any 100+ dollar fall away rest.
@robp418
@robp418 7 жыл бұрын
Fireworxs2012 I could care less about speed but when it comes to accuracy and shot consistency, drop away rests are superior.
@fardmcshid931
@fardmcshid931 7 жыл бұрын
+aj7861 1 when you mention the $100+ drop away rests, whisker biscuit rests are far cheaper. I've seen whisker biscuits go for $12 on eBay and the rest I bought from the local outdoor shop cost me $30.
@michaelhaworth3635
@michaelhaworth3635 7 жыл бұрын
I've only been deer hunting for a few years and took my first deer with a whisker biscuit on. I practiced with it and never had a problem with grouping or sending arrows deep into my target. The one thing that made me switch to a drop away rest is my whisker biscuit was not silent. Never noticed it until I drew back on my first doe and a screech noise came from my bow. Wasn't sure exactly what it was until it happened again a few days later on another doe. What I've read, some will make the noise on your arrows and others don't. If I had one that didn't scratch against my arrows, I'd still have it on my bow.
@brianlanders1545
@brianlanders1545 7 жыл бұрын
Fireworxs2012 : Thank you so much on the whisker biscuit. The flipper spring went bad on mine and you helped me decide on what to buy. Again thanks. Sometimes it's better to go to the comments section to get advice.😀😉
@driftlesshunter9200
@driftlesshunter9200 4 жыл бұрын
I switched from a Savage prong arrow rest with teflon arms to a QAD HDX in 2014. I really like the QAD rest. It's super quiet when you draw back, & I have never encountered a dropping issue. I'd rather go back to a two prong rest than shoot a Whisker Biscuit. When I started shooting a drop away, I also switched from feathers to blazers. The main feature of a good rest is clearing the fletchings on release!
@MC-zt4is
@MC-zt4is 4 жыл бұрын
At the beginning of the video, you show a Hostage rest and talk about the pro's and cons of the Whisker Biscuit (two very different things). A hostage (with a properly tuned arrow) never contacts the fletching so, the contact is much less. I understand the shaft will flex upon release and come in contact with the Hostage rest and the drop away doesn't ever touch. I would be interested in seeing you shoot the same arrow on the same bow through all three rests, with a chronograph, and a paper tune. This scientific data would give us accurate information by which we could make a decision. Good video.
@cw3482
@cw3482 2 жыл бұрын
New to bows and I am currently borrowing a friends bow. Great video which is helping me, subscribed.
@jamesnorris1867
@jamesnorris1867 3 жыл бұрын
You know your stuff. Your mother and I are cousins went to high school together. Your grandfather is one of the best archers in Pennsylvania in his \day. Great to see the passion you have for the sport. Keep it up.
@gregkral4467
@gregkral4467 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, was wondering that myself, was thinkin getting whisker biscuit to replace wire rest kinda thing.... got a new g5, and had the plastic holders rather than brushes, everyone snapped off in just about 50 shots..... but still got my SAS and old PSE from '92... heheh.
@madhuntsadventures
@madhuntsadventures 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job covering both styles of rests!
@JamesKing2understandinglife
@JamesKing2understandinglife 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
@coastaloutdooradventures8138
@coastaloutdooradventures8138 7 жыл бұрын
Trying to tune my bow, I have found that the whisker Biscuit wont allow as tight of a tune as a drop away. Good Videos man, Keep it up.
@ScottWConvid19
@ScottWConvid19 3 жыл бұрын
This explains why I was splitting arrows at 40 yards with the WB, but at 80 yards, my groupings opened up exponentially! Hunting in the woods, I've only shot past 40 yards twice and there are many reasons to not do that while hunting whitetail deer. I think for tournaments and competition shooting, the drop away is probably a better test to use, however, when hunting beasts of the field, the WB (style) rest is way more practical and, like you said, less likely to fail.
@WellHiFellers
@WellHiFellers 6 жыл бұрын
Dope video, very informative! New archer here, love these things
@betelrock5355
@betelrock5355 7 жыл бұрын
great channel man, I'm new to your content, I love the approach you take, thanks for sharing your knowledge
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your kind words! It'm my pleasure. God bless.
@superjoint57
@superjoint57 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, I enjoyed it. I like the non-bias approach. A Whisker Biscuit works for me on my Bear bow. The only time I think about changing to a drop away is because I see others that use them! :) Although I am a Michigan fan, we can still be friends! Lol! GO BLUE! I'll be at the game on 10/21/17!!!! :)
@jasonpatterson8091
@jasonpatterson8091 6 жыл бұрын
Just got back into bow hunting this year - out of the game since the early 90's. Got a drop away rest (Ripcord Ace - $99...) and really liked the performance and long range accuracy I've been working on. After a fair bit of practice shooting, at least a couple thousand arrows, I lost a deer with the first shot that mattered because the string frayed inside the rest and it didn't drop - 2 feet high at 20 yards. I'm considering going for a whisker biscuit during hunting season and using a drop away for the rest of the year; I'm not taking 80 yards shots at deer anyway.
@MorrisonMusicGroup
@MorrisonMusicGroup 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos, Very good job! I appreciate the review, its got to be The Whisker biscuit for me. Cheers
@1LRLRG
@1LRLRG 7 жыл бұрын
I shoot a whisker and have had no issues so far, but am admit to being a novice shooter. I too feel that if the shooter gets the basics down first then other ways of holding the arrow are preference oriented more than real or perceived advantages. good video explaining the differences though.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
1LRLRG Thanks! And good luck with your continued work with archery! God bless.
@TheLiamis
@TheLiamis 7 жыл бұрын
Indeed it's just preference. I use the nap quicktune and cartel midas ii rests. They are blade rests which are like drop always but without having to tie them in to the bow. They run on a spring instead of a cable.
@user-oz4ik6ky6r
@user-oz4ik6ky6r 4 ай бұрын
Watched 3/3/2014 I've used a full whisker biscuit for 25 years and harvested too many to count. I shoot from 12 to 36 yards top . With a mathews solo cam 32. I'm very pleased with it. The new bows are just out of my price range, once you add all the bells and whistles.
@andrewlinden8482
@andrewlinden8482 5 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful, thank you
@northernpursuit2879
@northernpursuit2879 4 жыл бұрын
Another thing you have to consider is movement of the bow before the arrow leaves the rest. With a whisker biscuit, if you flinch or move your bow as you shoot, the arrow will also move and not have a straight flight since it is attached to the bow until the arrow fully leaves the rest. With a drop away, the arrow almost immediately becomes free flying, making any movement of the bow before the arrow leaves the rest a non-issue.
@mrdshull
@mrdshull Жыл бұрын
Lol serious? Is the bow string part of the bow or no?
@bibletrumpetingtrucker1725
@bibletrumpetingtrucker1725 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks for the education!
@raybarr6283
@raybarr6283 7 жыл бұрын
Great video young man, very informative!!! Keep up the good work. I personally shoot the whisker biscuit and love it!
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
Ray Barr Thank you, Ray! God bless.
@abwigim
@abwigim 7 жыл бұрын
Dude. Great video!! Very informative and you didn't make me feel stupid. Haha
@rebelndirt8830
@rebelndirt8830 5 жыл бұрын
I use a happy medium. I have a spring loaded drop away. It holds the arrow by 2 small points and has clearance for the odd fletching. If the arrow does hit it for any reason it will easily move out of the way but on a normal shot it barely contacts the arrow.
@benwhitnell
@benwhitnell 7 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, I'm new to archery and there is way more choice in a lot of this stuff than I thought there would be. Thanks for talking through that in a way even a newbie like me can get his head wrapped around. Only problem is your choice of sweatshirt, go Hawkeyes!
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
We PSU fans owe you Hawkeyes a debt of thanks for knocking out Michigan from Rose Bowl contention with your win last year. :) We'll just have to settle our differences on the wrestling mat in a couple of weeks in Carver Arena! But in all seriousness I'm glad that I could be of help! If you ever have any further questions never hesitate to ask them. God bless.
@mrhubof
@mrhubof 3 жыл бұрын
Never had any issues with the whisker biscuit, always reliable, quiet and accurate. Shot plenty of deer and a bull elk at 40 yards this Sep. and the arrow went straight through him, plenty of speed with 70lb draw.
@stevecady421
@stevecady421 4 жыл бұрын
I've kicked it around in my head the pros and cons of each type of rest. Until now I've only used a whisker biscuit or full containment rest. I practice very often. Over time my tests show signs of wearing due to friction of the arrow shafts and contact with the fletching. Replacement brushes are relatively cheap and easy to install. However, I never skip tuning. I recently installed a decent drop away rest to see if I would like it... pro, I like the total lack of arrow contact when I loose. Con, too many points of potential failures. Having said that, I'm going to continue using the drop away rest a bit longer. By the time I decide which is preferred, deer season will be here.
@klausshwab5876
@klausshwab5876 2 жыл бұрын
What did you end up going with?
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 7 жыл бұрын
Whisker biscuit. That sounds dirty.
@bloodruststaples
@bloodruststaples 5 жыл бұрын
New term for a hairy butthole.
@reidcoleman1568
@reidcoleman1568 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda like whistle britches.
@Crackhouts
@Crackhouts 3 жыл бұрын
Breakfast of champions.
@badtolz2122
@badtolz2122 3 жыл бұрын
Bob..... you ruined it
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 3 жыл бұрын
@@Crackhouts A hairy butthole? I don't judge.
@dfm-jv7ry
@dfm-jv7ry 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Jack. I am watching this older video because I am going away from a Hamskea dropaway and returning to a whisker biscuit on both my bows, although I am going with the V-Max WB. Two reasons: 1) a friend challenged me to try test the reduced speed theory for myself, thand changing the Hamskea out for the regular whisker biscuit averaged between 1 - 2 fps. That is not enough for me to triple my expense from a V-Max to a Hamskea drop away, or even a rip-cord or QAD. 2) This year when picking my bow up off the hook it was hanging on caused the arrow to bounce in the rest and make a noise, and spooked the deer. Now part of that was human error - my anxious/quick movement caused the arrow to jump, not the rest - but if it ere in the biscuit and held securely still that wouldn't have happened. My equipment would have helped mask my quicker than necessary movement that created the noise. And, as you pointed out in the video, there is less mechanical movement (none) to fail; so, the WB helps protect against Murphy's law by eliminating a couple of things that can -- and at some point will for someone -- go wrong. Thanks for your videos.
@paprotkowa
@paprotkowa 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an informative and short video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Cheers from Poland! :)
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the info & honesty. Thank you
@Flexaret
@Flexaret 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jack, (I assume that's actually your name ) just subscribed to your channel as I've only just bought a low end compound bow, I've watched quite a few of your videos and really like that you get to the point and explain things really well. I've gained a lot from your videos so just to say thanks for sharing your knowledge. :-)
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
It's my pleasure! I'm glad that I'm achieving my goal of helping new archers enter the sport! God bless.
@thedriveinopera8889
@thedriveinopera8889 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta go with Whisker Biscuit. The reliability is well worth the few lost FPS.
@fjoco1
@fjoco1 7 жыл бұрын
What a great video so informative and you speak very well.
@endzoneproductions4732
@endzoneproductions4732 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Keep up the good work!
@markhenderson5102
@markhenderson5102 7 жыл бұрын
Great piece, thanks for the information.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Henderson You're most welcome! God bless.
@Flexaret
@Flexaret 7 жыл бұрын
I had been using a full brush Whisker biscuit but changed to a 3 brush Hostage type, I've just ordered an NAP Apache so it'll be interesting to see if I notice a difference. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, look forward to more God willing.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 7 жыл бұрын
R Mac Good luck and God bless!
@THESHITTTTT65
@THESHITTTTT65 7 жыл бұрын
R Mac I've literally shot thousands of arrows through my trophy taker drop away with zero issues
@rayking3466
@rayking3466 7 жыл бұрын
Buy as many extra brushes as you can. You'll only have to replace them once a month.
@corysutton
@corysutton 7 жыл бұрын
R Mac Last Season I used G5 Halo, worked great until it sleeted and snowed, the brushes froze up and actually froze around my arrow, I switched to NAP Apache..zero issues or problems
@lisamcdonnell6344
@lisamcdonnell6344 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic narration, nice job
@hobbyhomesteader984
@hobbyhomesteader984 5 жыл бұрын
I had a very good drop away on my Hoyt...not any more. Two Reason's ---1st arrow falls off rest it can at times not re-center itself. ---2nd When it does fall off it's rest the arrow makes enough noise to spook a close deer. I went to a Wisker Biscuit ---my Hoyt Pro Hawk delivers 305 fps with 60 lbs @ 29 inches --arrow impact at 70 yds is about 1.3 seconds. Targets and shooting area are on uneven ground and @ 70 yds I have a grouping of 5 to 6 inches.
@jimfield3347
@jimfield3347 5 жыл бұрын
210 ft in 1.3 seconds isn't 305fps just sayin
@bluedragonarchery3369
@bluedragonarchery3369 2 жыл бұрын
I love the whisker biscuit as the primary for hunting. I agree that for target shooting the drop away is the better choice. but recent videos have shown that the speed difference is minimal. If your trying to hit and aspirin at 50 yards a more expensive rest may be in order.
@mitchhall5942
@mitchhall5942 2 жыл бұрын
I have been bow hunting for 10 years, and have used a whisker biscuit rest. I have always had a problem with my broad heads (fixed/mechanical) shooting high and left at 20 yards my hunting arrows are completely off target at 30 yards. I switched to a hostage style test retuned the center shot and my broad heads not shoot within 2 inches of my practice arrows from 20 yards out to 40 yards. I believe the fletch deflection as the fletching pass thru the whisker biscuit causes the broad heads to plane of of true center and the fletching cannot correct the off center flight path I have tried different fletching styles with slightly better results, but the biggest and best results came when I changed to the hostage rest
@bobrat
@bobrat 3 жыл бұрын
I use the NAP Apache on my compound bow because I use Fobs instead of fletching. It works great 👍
@bluecordsoldier2508
@bluecordsoldier2508 6 жыл бұрын
Man your videos are informative ,non biased, and on point
@milfcommander428
@milfcommander428 4 жыл бұрын
Whoa.....Loved the video. Quite informative 😇 BTW Love from India
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