Whisperflo pump repair part 2.mpg

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11 жыл бұрын

More on the pool repair of the pump motor for the pool.

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@paulsausville7584
@paulsausville7584 8 жыл бұрын
This was a great tutorial. Thanks for sharing your expertise and experience.
@mtheory9251
@mtheory9251 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I just changed the bearings in my Whisperflow pump and saved a $1000 plus on a new pump. Thank you!
@tonto529
@tonto529 7 жыл бұрын
Outstanding videos. Fixed my pump perfectly.
@OmarDoumiaty
@OmarDoumiaty Жыл бұрын
thank you! You helped me fixing my pool filter pump! Your video is extremely helpful and now i'm on to pump # 2 (waterfall pump). Thank you!!!
@jrodgers522
@jrodgers522 2 жыл бұрын
I know this video is older but man it was super helpful. Thank you so much!
@daviddollarhide7185
@daviddollarhide7185 4 жыл бұрын
Dude you saved the day. Couldn’t get that little screw off the front housing. Showed me what it was doing. Next job boss.
@1204timyr
@1204timyr 6 жыл бұрын
I can't give enough like to this video. Please consider servicing a whisperflo XF
@Steve-oj7mt
@Steve-oj7mt 11 ай бұрын
I just pulled my motor off but here in AZ U can’t have your pool pump down for more then a day or 2 in mid summer so I pony up and bought a new motor now that she up in running I pulled my old motor apart and ordered bearings so I’ll have a backup this job seems pretty easy so thank U sir for the info👍🤠
@BLUESTARPOOLS1
@BLUESTARPOOLS1 11 жыл бұрын
great demostration on how to repair pool pump bearings.
@jimh6189
@jimh6189 3 жыл бұрын
Although not perfect, this video was helpful to remind me the steps to replace bearings in my pool pump. Now I can enjoy my pool again without so much noise. Thumbs UP! And yes, I actually did the WORK, so if I seem a little pissey, it's because it's been really hot, I got grease up to my elbows, and parts lying everywhere. What do these other guys do, watch "do-it" videos while laying down with a beer on their lap? LOL But really thanks for a great video- from one of the few that really lived it. Going now for a swim. Hope to never return here again - LOL.
@dannyv7839
@dannyv7839 4 жыл бұрын
Really helpful video I always see it for reference... thank you
@MrPalmeroj
@MrPalmeroj 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Right to the point of what I needed. I have the exact same pump with the same "humming" problem. Now that I've seen this video I feel sure I can at least take it apart. Would be nice if you could post information where you get your parts (bearing, seal, joint stick, etc). By the way, where is part 3?
@Mark-OutWest
@Mark-OutWest 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Knowing my luck I'd change out the bearing and a month later something else would fail and I'd just be buying another motor. Shame there was never a part 3.
@toxicrockgardenrailroadmik5937
@toxicrockgardenrailroadmik5937 2 жыл бұрын
Great video , awesome tutorial
@tommyjohnson7280
@tommyjohnson7280 3 жыл бұрын
you are the best!!!!!!!thank you sooo much!!!!kudos
@stampgalore
@stampgalore 6 жыл бұрын
Very good instructions, thank you. Let’s remember that most people don’t have the tools.
@whitemok
@whitemok 6 жыл бұрын
great video. thanks
@digitallair3425
@digitallair3425 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Saved my bacon! Thanks.
@aline0721
@aline0721 2 жыл бұрын
great vid, very helpful
@donbuck2622
@donbuck2622 4 жыл бұрын
THE BEST I HAVE SEEN
@AndresSanchez-in7zq
@AndresSanchez-in7zq 7 жыл бұрын
Eazy I rebuild pumps over a 100 hp experienced with many years u did a good gob any body has any questions feel free to ask
@1204timyr
@1204timyr 6 жыл бұрын
Andres Sanchez hey andres, can i bother you with 2 quick questions? 1.- where the heck can i buy bearings? Any classic stores like lowes or somewhere online? 2.- what's the tool this guy used to remove the bearing? Thank you sir
@ArmenArmenjs
@ArmenArmenjs 5 жыл бұрын
www.ebay.com/itm/XiKe-2-Pack-Replace-Pentair-Whisperflo-Pool-Pump-Ball-Bearing-Quiet-High-Speed/202388410960?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@SynergyAVE
@SynergyAVE 5 жыл бұрын
@@1204timyr you can buy anything and everything on Amazon....
@Anateo77
@Anateo77 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@donmiguel1513
@donmiguel1513 Жыл бұрын
beyond great instructional video, strait to it real life advice and commentary on rebuild. Thank you! question are you using 120v to bench test the motor could not quit tell. anything on that is appreciated.
@nogascansable
@nogascansable 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was able to disassemble the pump and motor assembly based on your video. I found the front bearing bad but in removing and taking apart the motor I had three of the bolts break and the retainer screw for the front bearing was seized into the retainer. I could not find a parts diagram/PN for screws and retainer. Any source for those?
@pabloescobar3003
@pabloescobar3003 3 жыл бұрын
Excelente video
@mguerramd
@mguerramd 3 жыл бұрын
I like to use anti-seize compound on things like those long through bolts.
@-badkarma--1562
@-badkarma--1562 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I was about to start my rebuild but had to make sure about that left hand screw. Question: where do you actual pump parts? I cannot find them online unless I’m not seeing the proverbial snake that could bite me.
@1tazio
@1tazio 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro ++helpful
@jamesthomas1049
@jamesthomas1049 4 жыл бұрын
This is great my pump is starting to scream. Seems like it is a lot of work and time but doAble. Could it be the impeller?
@raulrodriguez3828
@raulrodriguez3828 4 жыл бұрын
Gran video
@elephantcup
@elephantcup 11 жыл бұрын
Considering the time & cost of removing the pump and pulling it apart plus down time, I would have replaced that back bearing as well. Because, if the one bearing failed, the second one will probably go sooner than later. An extra 5 bucks for the bearing and 2 more minutes of labor today to save you hours down the road is a good investment.
@SynergyAVE
@SynergyAVE 5 жыл бұрын
It is MIND BLOWING that he did not do this. Maybe it is so he gets another service call from his customer when it fails in 6 months. However, if I were the customer, I would be irate.
@laurencmueller5963
@laurencmueller5963 4 жыл бұрын
agree
@Chris-pe6xj
@Chris-pe6xj 2 жыл бұрын
My father worker for Hyatt Bearing general Motors in Clark, NJ. He told me 30 or 40 years ago , never change bearings that are good just to change bearings for thre is no guarantee that the replacement will be superior or not fail sooner than a good original.
@_1ben
@_1ben Жыл бұрын
@Chris I like your dad " if it works don't fix it"
@Clipperskills
@Clipperskills 5 жыл бұрын
What does the flat head screw on the bell housing screw on to? I’m rebuilding my whisperflo right now and I unscrewed it all the way
@ves1000
@ves1000 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks looks easy enouph to do
@rebeccafischer2180
@rebeccafischer2180 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I do need to replace the washer you speak of in here, but am struggling to locate one. Any help on where I might be able to locate one would be awesome!!
@orlandoochoa8222
@orlandoochoa8222 4 жыл бұрын
Your video was very very helpful, BUT I was hoping you address my problem. My problem is that my breaker "pops" IMMEDIATELY after I turn the power switch on. Are my motor windings fried? Thanks in advance for your response.
@Springerpop
@Springerpop 8 жыл бұрын
Very good bearings to use would be 6203-2RS from a quality manufacturer. eBay or Amazon has many, many vendors, and reasonably-priced.
@glwilkins
@glwilkins 11 жыл бұрын
You mentioned the bearing being a 203 type bearing. Would that be the same bearing on a 1 1/2 HP dual speed motor also? is there any designations after the 203xx?
@superstormy10
@superstormy10 11 жыл бұрын
so its taken me all day to take apart this same motor and i'm down to the last screw, the one in the middle that holds the thing in to get to the 2nd bearing and its stuck on i'm going nuts but i'm trying to do it so i can save money ...i'll update later
@markadams6934
@markadams6934 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video! If I may ask, what size bearing puller is that you are using? Is it a 6 inch? Need to buy one, and they come in 3,4 and 6 inch. Thank You!
@ArmenArmenjs
@ArmenArmenjs 5 жыл бұрын
use six inch works perfect.
@hov2000
@hov2000 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Sal112350
@Sal112350 3 жыл бұрын
My advice is if your pool motor is more than 10 years old, I suggest you replace it, less noise, more efficient, less worry for more parts to broke. Replace it with a 2 speed motor to save electricity, high speed only when vacuuming, price is almost the same as single speed. I did replace my 12 year old pool motor bearing, the noise is still there, not worth replacing the bearing. I just bought a 2 speed and I love it, variable speed is more expensive though.
@germanshepherdmom3jm
@germanshepherdmom3jm Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have the same pump but no power. I hear the electricity on the line, but not the pump. Is it repairable?
@justcallmeccrazy2116
@justcallmeccrazy2116 10 ай бұрын
Hi great video, what is the the make and size of your gearing puller?
@justcallmeccrazy2116
@justcallmeccrazy2116 2 жыл бұрын
Question, Can the bearing be spinning well and still screech when the pump is reassembled ? Maybe the impeller not working right? or maybe the bearing seats?
@lourias
@lourias 4 жыл бұрын
A pump was leaking at the seal plate. Replace the seal, but still leaked like a sieve. Took seal plate off, but saw nothing cracked. After the plate dried over the next 18 hours, the crack FINALLY became apparent, with a mineral build up alone the crack. It was a black seal plate, and I was working in the shade. ... and No, the seal plate was not warped as the guy said.
@serafinsilva1055
@serafinsilva1055 7 жыл бұрын
What happened to Pt 3?
@jimh6189
@jimh6189 3 жыл бұрын
@1:35 Where is your wave spring/pre-load washer? Do you know that you need this? It must have fell out while you were banging the motor shaft onto the table.
@mguerramd
@mguerramd Жыл бұрын
Are those end bells available as spares?
@athomas1017
@athomas1017 11 жыл бұрын
where is part 3????
@robertkidwell8049
@robertkidwell8049 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of vise do you have?
@cristobalbreto363
@cristobalbreto363 8 жыл бұрын
Very good job , i have just instale a new pump model PANTAIR SF-N1-3/4A/340037 and stop working while raining , probably it got water inside . i need a answer ,thank you . Chris.
@gmcsuburbanspecialist2878
@gmcsuburbanspecialist2878 8 жыл бұрын
The motor is water damaged and when that happens the pump will burn up and short out to were its not repairable and you will have to replace it or get a new pump but if there's a flood you don't want to be running it
@MrSonnyPa
@MrSonnyPa 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos but where is part 3 video?
@athomas1017
@athomas1017 11 жыл бұрын
Jay my darn thing is still leaking worse then before................. i dont have time for this i have major surgery scheduled for tomorrow....... what am i doing wrong i follow the instructions exactly.... so frustrating and disappointing
@ttwymr
@ttwymr 11 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy the bearings at? What about the electrical part on top of the motor in the long removable Twinkie shaped removable compartment. Is the parts in this replaceable? Thanks Great video easy to follow!!!
@key-uh6jz
@key-uh6jz 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are replaceable. It's call a Capacitor. Take the little housing off( 2 screws) inside you will see to plugged in wires. Then look on Amazon and get the exact same uf#, volts and hz. Place back the pug wires and housing. Pump will start if all specs were correct. Cost under $20 bucks
@beaubillion9006
@beaubillion9006 8 жыл бұрын
great video. i have an 1-1/2 horse whisper flow. can you add a 2 horse motor on to the unit? or VFD motor?
@brianrejniak5289
@brianrejniak5289 8 жыл бұрын
+Beau Billion Yes, you can upsize the motor but not downsize without changing the impeller too. a 1.5 hp impeller cannot have a motor smaller than 1.5 but you can add a 2.0 or 3.0. If you added a 1.0 or .5hp the pump would run hot and ultimately destroy the motor from overload drag
@AndresSanchez-in7zq
@AndresSanchez-in7zq 7 жыл бұрын
Beau Billion yes u can u can always go from 1 1/2 to two horse power with no problems their is not much of a difference same rpms just a bit more amps
@AndresSanchez-in7zq
@AndresSanchez-in7zq 7 жыл бұрын
I use a socket big enough to go over the seal to the metal and press in eazy money
@chrisgehman1924
@chrisgehman1924 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you videos, I have a well pump that sounds exactly like yours in your part 1 video only thing the bearings are both free wheeling in both directions. the pump flooded and was under water for a bit would that effect the capacitor, I've already replaced the square D pumptrol any Ideas on what the problem might be or is my pump motor shot.
@alfredocastillo9518
@alfredocastillo9518 5 жыл бұрын
Hi went you put the part 3
@hsafar
@hsafar 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Thanks for the video, great job. I was able to remove the motor and exposed the bearings. Unfortunately, the front bearing is much bigger than the one I bought (6203-2RS) The defective bearing has 6304DU POLAND PPL marked on it. I can't find it on line. Do you know what other name i can use? my pump is a 2HP..appreciate it..Thank you
@juanmacias4854
@juanmacias4854 Жыл бұрын
Good video, was getting ready to order from Amazon 2 seals, they cost $21.50, the 203 seal is less than $5 on Amazon. Same seal, looks like but one is marketed to pool pumps. Like the Plasto Joint seal, thanks will look for it as well. Any suggestions on the o ring kits?
@2Timothy3END
@2Timothy3END Жыл бұрын
Your bearing (203) fit? I have a 2 HP pool pump (whisperflo) amazon doesnt say they are 203s just that they fit the whisperflo... Thanks
@juanmacias4854
@juanmacias4854 Жыл бұрын
@@2Timothy3END Yes, bought a package of 4 for $10, if I recall correctly. Replaced both front and rear seals and pump is working great, nice and silent again.
@stacyspooner3572
@stacyspooner3572 Жыл бұрын
#1 Seal plate was cracked inside the shaft seal recession. #2 Never install shaft seals by directly touching the ceramic sides.....the oils in your hands degrade them and cause premature failure which leads to bearing failure. #3 Clean the piss out of all the parts, especially the internal parts and spray with electronic cleaner just before assembly to rid any dust/debris inside the winding area.
@jimh6189
@jimh6189 3 жыл бұрын
@ 4:01 NO, NO - STOP THE BANGING - PLEASE! You didn't clean the housing. You lost your pre-load spring. 1. Clean the inside of the bearing insert surface (on the housing) until it is SHINY clean. 2. Now the bearing slips in EASY (without need for banging) and pushes against your preload spring. 3. Loosen your bearing tension mechanism until it can reach behind the bearing 4. Once your bearing tension mechanism is in place you start to tighten it. Don't tighten too much! 5. After you tighten a little, it causes the bearing to go in sideways, so take your hand and push on the other side. Now the bearing is LOOSE again. Repeat steps 4 and 5 until the bearing tension mechanism holds the bearing surface parallel to the housing surface. 6. Finally tighten the bearing tension screw so it is snug. If you are banging on your pump motor, something is wrong. This is not the way to do work. In the end, the bearing is sandwiched in between the preload spring and the tension mechanism. @ 4:40 Is it tight because the bearing in in a bind, or because it is properly seated? How do you know? Try, again, to tap on the side OPPOSITE the bearing tension screw. If the housing suddenly is loose on the bearing, then it was in a bind. You shouldn't need to do this if the housing was properly cleaned in the first place.
@johnrly1
@johnrly1 Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the additional info. The screw for the front bearing retainer on my motor is rusted. Tips for removing and replacing? Thanks
@jimh6189
@jimh6189 3 жыл бұрын
Replace BOTH bearings. Doesn't matter which one is bad. If one is bad the other will soon follow. Think about the time you have spent.
@glwilkins
@glwilkins 10 жыл бұрын
I replaced both 203 bearing an my pump sounded great for a month, now I have a loud hi speed noise back again, low speed is ok. Is there a better quality bearing I can use?
@Kay-dx8vm
@Kay-dx8vm 5 жыл бұрын
I dont know why I am watching this, I was supposed to find a video where I can find the answer for my easypro pump that keeps tripping the GFCI, at first it would run for a few minutes, now it just trips the GFCI right after the power cord is plugged in. Anyways, thanks for the very informative video sir
@osokaman
@osokaman 5 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt plug a motor into a gfic outlet there very sensitive. you could try replacing the gfci to a normal outlet and replace the breaker at the panel with a gfci breaker . make sure to contact a lic.electrican about this type of work.
@orlandoochoa8222
@orlandoochoa8222 4 жыл бұрын
This is my exact issue, and I do have it connected to a GFCI. Did replacing the breaker solved your issue?
@Kay-dx8vm
@Kay-dx8vm 4 жыл бұрын
@@orlandoochoa8222 believe it or not, I am looking for a new pump. Yea, its been a year since the time I commented here. What I did was that I disassembled the pump ( lots of water in there), let it dry then put it back and it ran for a year( of course there are a number of times it stopped running, let it "rest" then plugged it back to the outlet and it ran again). It is just clearly now that I need to buy a new pump. My pump is for a backyard waterfall, it is a pretty huge waterfall ( the pump is 5100GPH rated ) so I wouldnt risk anyone or pet just try to replace GFCI with a normal outlet. GFCI trips because something wrong and you'd better believe that its actually doing to protect you.
@bfogelstrom
@bfogelstrom Жыл бұрын
What size gear puller is needed?
@cjmacanbhaird9140
@cjmacanbhaird9140 8 жыл бұрын
@ 1:00 I'm trying to loosen the screw, which locks in the bearing....I can't get the darn thing to loosen. What do I do? I've soaked it in WD40.
@dennisweinmann868
@dennisweinmann868 5 жыл бұрын
You break it off in back. Then drill it out and replace with bigger bolt.
@ArmenArmenjs
@ArmenArmenjs 5 жыл бұрын
It needs only few threads don't take out all the way, you need to use a bit of heat.
@cesarenriquez8217
@cesarenriquez8217 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you clean the shaft?get all the rust out!
@sonnyvu5231
@sonnyvu5231 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to buy that housing and the plastic come along is it possible ? Because my they are being ate by salt water !
@griffmillerii1885
@griffmillerii1885 4 жыл бұрын
All these parts are readily available online or at a pool store. Just search for "whisperflo pump parts".
@armandoreyes3461
@armandoreyes3461 8 жыл бұрын
I can't find part 3???
@nexus-666
@nexus-666 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the seal was two parts: One for plate, one for impeller.
@shaneherrera9792
@shaneherrera9792 Жыл бұрын
I snapped the head off the screw that holds the wing behind the bearing. 4.25 of this video. Does anyone know what size and thread count I should drill and tap it out to so I can replace it?
@johnrly1
@johnrly1 Жыл бұрын
How did you solve this. Mine is frozen
@doubleohseven9934
@doubleohseven9934 4 жыл бұрын
at 10:18 I see a crack on the seal surface of the seal plate....just saying
@1204timyr
@1204timyr 6 жыл бұрын
I realized you don't answer questions, but anybody knows where to buy bearings and the name of the tool used removed the bearing?
@ArmenArmenjs
@ArmenArmenjs 5 жыл бұрын
www.ebay.com/itm/XiKe-2-Pack-Replace-Pentair-Whisperflo-Pool-Pump-Ball-Bearing-Quiet-High-Speed/202388410960?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@ArmenArmenjs
@ArmenArmenjs 5 жыл бұрын
www.ebay.com/itm/New-3pc-3-Jaw-Gear-Pulley-Bearing-Puller-Set-3-4-6-Small-Leg-Large-Mechanics/171641738420?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@laurencmueller5963
@laurencmueller5963 4 жыл бұрын
You use a 6 inch 3 jaw bearing puller to remove the bearings
@JoseGutierrez-jq7ye
@JoseGutierrez-jq7ye 2 жыл бұрын
Check the Amp. and compare thanks
@joedirt7091
@joedirt7091 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt it make sense to pack the replacment bearing with some axle grease before pressing onto the shaft?
@Tubieism
@Tubieism 6 жыл бұрын
The bearing is a sealed bearing and can't be "packed". You should lubricate the AXLE prior to pressing on the new bearing.
@ArmenArmenjs
@ArmenArmenjs 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. use sharp pick and pry out the black cover, then replace back.
@griffmillerii1885
@griffmillerii1885 4 жыл бұрын
No need - it is a sealed bearing that comes pre-greased.
@mrbede
@mrbede 2 жыл бұрын
My bearing is not on the shaft; it's tight within the housing. What can I do to extract it?
@bradgee2059
@bradgee2059 2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same problem. Let me know how you solved it.
@mrbede
@mrbede 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradgee2059 While using a heavy screwdriver to pound it out, I broke off a piece of the housing. I replaced the bearings, put it back together, and crossed my fingers. It's been running fine for the last few months but I'll have to see how it holds up over time. So far, there aren't any leaks.
@bradgee2059
@bradgee2059 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrbede I ended up using a 3/4 or 5/8" concrete anchor. I put the anchor through the bearing and then tightened it down causing the anchor to expand inside the bearing. Then I was able to tap it out fairly easily.
@nowayout73
@nowayout73 11 жыл бұрын
Part 3......make one please!!!!!!!!!!
@ArmenArmenjs
@ArmenArmenjs 5 жыл бұрын
No part 3! basically its done only thing you need to see is seal for impeller.
@jimh6189
@jimh6189 3 жыл бұрын
@ 1:06 No bangy bangy - use a gear puller instead. I got a set of 3 sizes from ebay for $16. WAY easier than banging on the table- actually I didn't bang on the table, used more advanced method, but gear puller was still much easier. Maybe rather than "Pool Technicians"- "Backyard handyman"? These videos are almost correct, but need a bit of refinement. Remember you actually want to use your motor when you are done - right? Edit: LOL He shows you the proper puller @ 1:50, but doesn't know how to use it to remove the casing - go figure! Just wrap that baby around the housing just like you do with the bearing and the housing will come off exactly the same way.
@thanhnguyen4908
@thanhnguyen4908 4 жыл бұрын
problem they suing so cheap bearings made not quality as made for as automotive then these bearings should not replace a long times....
@georgeeverett5006
@georgeeverett5006 2 ай бұрын
Don't like the idea of grease on bearing or shaft ! Bearing needs to fit tight so as not to spin on shaft or end bell ! Bearing needs to do its own thing.
@griffmillerii1885
@griffmillerii1885 6 жыл бұрын
To save money, you could have just turned the "one-way" bearing around. 😄
@sheeplehurder1449
@sheeplehurder1449 4 жыл бұрын
where the fuck is part 3?
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