Vivalavive2249 michelle Feiffer is such an icon. I just watched Mother! And her and JLaw had a few scenes where she is intimidating J, and they both acted so strongly that it seemed almost like a passing of the torch. I love seeing actresses at different ages who are both strong in their own way rule scenes like this one

Vivalavive2249 : I loved this movie so much that I bought it on DVD. It was so well done. Witnessing her daughter’s transformation as she’s going from foster home to foster home: ROBIN WRIGHT, RENÉE ZELLWEGER, the GYPSEY MOM. Alison Lohman was put in a very difficult position in the end, when she had to decide if she was going to testify for her mom or not. I think that Michelle Pfeiffer was doing a great job with her. Raising her to be carefree, to think outside the box & not to be “cookie-cutter” material. Unfortunately she killed that man (“White Orleander”). MY FAVORITE SCENE SCENE IS WITH ALISON & RENEE BECAUSE THAT’S WHEN ALISON SAYS THAT SHE EXPERIENCED ‘THE HAPPIEST DAY OF HER LIFE’. IT’S TOO BAD THAT ZELLWEGER WAS IN A TERRIBLE MARRIAGE & SHE ENDED UP TAKING HER OWN LIFE. I CRIED SO MUCH. Everyone’s performance was amazing, but Robin Wright Penn was a “stand out”!👍

Read the book

Me too. My mom is a narcissist. I've been no contact since last September.

Uh...astrid did nothing wrong. Ingrid uses her own child as her emotional crutch and plaything. Cut frim different cloth.

Ingrid acted like she did Astrid a favor by returning. It's not a favor when a mother takes care of her child. It's a duty and an obligation. Ingrid thinks that anything that interferes with her pleasures in life is offensive. She's the type of narcissistic person who would...abandon her child, for example. Not once, but constantly. Remember the line about Astrid always waiting for Ingrid? Wondering when she's going to come back? Wondering if she'll remember that she's tied Astrid up in front of a store, or left her on a bus? The final abandonment was when Ingrid decided to murder someone, not giving a single thought about what that would do to her daughter. Despicable.

Sarah, you said it all, well. Thank you.

She didn’t force her child to lie under oath, in order to LITERALLY get away with murder. That’s NOT the same as making amends. Like… even a little bit.

She came back because she needed her narcissistic supply and a child in constant fear that their mother would abandon them again is the perfect way for someone like her to get it.

Emily Barker I didn't like starr

Yeah...They couldn't possibly cast a prostitute in a good light as a person without it being some kind of "pretty woman" main plot. Ridiculous. The perfume olivia gave her was important.

same situation with me! the scene of astrids mom being taken by the police and astrid on the staircase watching was always in the back of my mind, no idea what the movie was called until a couple years ago. crazy how those things stick with us as children..

Me too

I agree 💯

Kailey Lane

I think they left out some things to try to make Astrid look more sympathetic, but I honestly found her more compelling in the book, with warts n all. Still a boastful movie. One of my fav Renee Zellweger performances.

It's wild that she has been so good in movies like Batman Returns, Scarface, Married to the Mob, and this one, yet wasn't even nominated for those performances.

Were you able to have a relationship with her? Or was it forever ruined? Is she still around?

what u mean

Every mother gets frustrated with her children, the point is that they don't abandon them as a result typically.

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 as a sole parent I definitely get wanting a break. If it had only been a few days, I would have been on Ingrid's side. Not a whole year though. I've had times where I dropped my daughter off at my neighbours when I felt like I would throw her against the wall. At the end of the day I would miss her and go to pick her up, feeling better.

@@angelicasmodel Yeah, there's nothing wrong with wanting to harm your kid. The point is that most women don't go through with it because they actually love their kid. Kids are frustrating and horrible, but you still don't hurt them like this.

@@carlycrays2831 luckily, where I live, there are people you can go to when you are having trouble with your tiny humans. My daughter's nurse even told me to focus on how bad I felt to get us triaged quickly for sleep school.

Good for you!Sending you ❤❤❤

​​@@lauryn7840Thank you, I appreciate that. It took me a long time to come to terms with the fact that she will never be the mother I need her to be. She will always be damaged. I know it's because of trauma that happened to her but it doesn't excuse it. I have children myself and I would never treat them the way she's treated me. She has left me some lovely voicemails which my friend heard. When she heard the names that my mother was calling me and those voicemails, her jaw hit the floor. She was like, no wonder you don't talk to your mother. She finally stopped trying to call me earlier this month. I'm changing my number this month and she's not getting it. I really appreciate your kind words. Thank you.

That's the thing about narcissistic parents as well, what she said there is true. It's always about them. They don't care about what is best for their children. They view their children as extensions of themselves which you clearly saw in this movie. I had never related to anything so much until I saw this movie and read the book.

samantha west : Yes. I agree.

Ty : So did Robin Wright Penn.👍

How is she forgiving?

Exactly

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 She's not, he's just making a point.

@@babyhandgrenade4004 yeah, he made the point that astrid was too forgiving... and my question is IN WHAT WAY is astrid forgiving? why are you coming to the rescue of a stranger who apparently can't answer the question himself?

raecheer yes.

She found him and she was disappointed in him.

In the book, she meets her father and finds out this was another lie. Her mother left her father and moved to another country with her so he couldn't see her.