A.I. is DESTROYING the MUSIC INDUSTRY!!!

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@Tekkerue
@Tekkerue 6 күн бұрын
The music industry destroyed itself decades ago. 😒
@Rasenschneider
@Rasenschneider 6 күн бұрын
Most people do not care about music.
@_leivo
@_leivo 6 күн бұрын
Most CEO’s are making more than ever tho…
@ComplexConfiguration
@ComplexConfiguration 5 күн бұрын
​@@Rasenschneiderwhaat? Thats not true..
@Rasenschneider
@Rasenschneider 5 күн бұрын
@@ComplexConfiguration Sure!!! This is the whole truth!!!!
@videohcreator
@videohcreator 3 күн бұрын
The greed destroyed it years ago, now we are left with pennies from Spotify. I do enjoy making music with AI.
@hirnzircus
@hirnzircus 5 күн бұрын
The ai is just doing what the music industry has been doing since the last 20 to 30 years. Using proven quality and copping it till nobody can hear it anymore 😂
@Braneloc
@Braneloc Күн бұрын
The music industry has been "destroyed" so many times I lost count.
@budgetkeyboardist
@budgetkeyboardist 6 күн бұрын
The people who are making original sounding music and pouring out their souls will be fine. The people who can play really, really well and like to perform will be OK. The people who crank out music by combining pre-made loops and pre-programmed synth tracks are going to be in big trouble.
@freebby
@freebby 6 күн бұрын
right! those people were going to be doomed anyway because they didn't sound good enough already
@sdsddai
@sdsddai 5 күн бұрын
If AI could quickly create tracks for instruments like guitar and drums, people who compose by joining many loops together might be more successful than those who play instruments themselves. I used to make a living by composing music, but I got tired of changing my music for money. Last year, I decided to change my career. I want to keep loving music, so I decided to separate business from music.
@RockAndDoubleBassWithAaronJoy
@RockAndDoubleBassWithAaronJoy 5 күн бұрын
Agreed. AI won't cause creative people to watch tv instead of being creative. It won't stop musicians from making music. A creative person needs to express themselves, according to human nature, thus they are not going to program an AI to do something while they go sit on the beach feeling unfulfilled then come back in an hour. AI won't stop creativity. It won't stop us from being us. Musicians that fear AI ... well, are bassists out there afraid cause Billy Sheehan is better than them? Are beginning guitarists giving up cause Steve Vai already does it better? No. AI is just another Vai or whoever.
@RockAndDoubleBassWithAaronJoy
@RockAndDoubleBassWithAaronJoy 5 күн бұрын
@@sdsddai Maybe they might be more successful. But, when people want to see their fav performers live in concert .... well, how is the person who programmed AI to make some loops going to do that? Sit on stage with their computer for 2 hours?
@SynthoidSounds
@SynthoidSounds 4 күн бұрын
My "thing" is synth instrumentals, sometimes more than a bit outside the usual box, but people (who actually listen to it) have been amazingly supportive. I'm not really trying to make a living at this, but do very much enjoy spawning my little creations. What's interesting, though, is that now I've become at least a tiny blip on some radar screens, I get besieged with endless offers for the latest "hit making" loops, tracks, samples, chord progressions and so on. When I hear various popular hip-hop, pop, etc. tunes on streaming platforms, can actually recognize which product they bought to create their latest "hit".
@C_F_M
@C_F_M 6 күн бұрын
I've listened to a good bit of AI generated music out of curiosity (know thy enemy and all that) and the biggest hurdles AI can't seem to get over yet are (1) Repeating itself too much (2) Not repeating itself enough and (3) pooping its pants
@bernardoreyes4770
@bernardoreyes4770 4 күн бұрын
I believe you are confused, it sounds like you are talking about Biden
@karmaindustrie
@karmaindustrie Күн бұрын
Lol wtf
@moe47988
@moe47988 Күн бұрын
There's also a weird lossy sound to it, like early 128k mp3s.
@C_F_M
@C_F_M Күн бұрын
@@moe47988 That's also definitely true, always sounds like it was ripped from a compressed video
@jefffoxguitar2565
@jefffoxguitar2565 Күн бұрын
Udio is pretty incredible
@johnhawkinshawkins1284
@johnhawkinshawkins1284 6 күн бұрын
Apart from the stupid lyrics, the music is better than the Billboard top twenty.
@npinero1
@npinero1 6 күн бұрын
3 problems: 1. The way technology is applied to solve "problems" 2. The lack of knowledge, motivation and leadership from government to build policy that keeps up with technology. 3. Greed
@FireF1y644
@FireF1y644 23 сағат бұрын
It's never been about solving problems. Just business. First - billions from investors, then (potentially) billions from the users. Everything else doesn't matter (in these people's minds)
@top10sandthings
@top10sandthings 12 сағат бұрын
would you rather have a song like WAP or the hustle? or would you like a real artist song by a veteran that has issues breathing and singing but he or she still wants to make music? AI is nothing more then a HAMMER. If you really like using a hammer you can either make an iteration of it and create data behind it to make an air hammer? In this case.. the MUSIC industry hates the little guy and tries to keep the small artist and indie artist from getting music out there. NOW EVERYONE is able to use the Air hammer and not just keep people using rocks to hit the nails. ITS NOT A MIDDLE FINGER... ITS A WAY TO ACTUALLY GIVE PEOPLE the help them express themselves.
@danclark745
@danclark745 12 сағат бұрын
Understand nature, nature is greedy and deadly, AI is a product of nature and therefore beautiful.
@anthonybrett
@anthonybrett 4 сағат бұрын
AI can make as much music as it wants, but it will never stop me from enjoying the feeling I get while playing a guitar (badly). The drive in our souls to create music will never leave us, no matter how good the algorithm gets.
@krusestephan4009
@krusestephan4009 4 күн бұрын
Just as consultants homogenised everything outside the creative industries many years ago with their same old business solutions, art is now being downgraded to a trivial commodity. However, as AI only learns what it has been fed, the standstill will set in tomorrow. We are therefore not entering the age of artificial intelligence, but the age of ubiquitous nonsense and forever yesterday.
@Bigfamilyhomestead
@Bigfamilyhomestead Күн бұрын
15 seconds in... Yes. But the industry needed to be destroyed.
@florisbackx1744
@florisbackx1744 10 күн бұрын
The awnser is yes and no. Yes because the pop music the last 20 years has been fabricated in the most un creative way where every sound is run through beat detective and autotune. So the listener has been trained to 'like' or expect it sounding like it is made by zero's and ones. It all sounds like plastic already. And no because the producers will (and prob have been) using it already. Music well go back to a performing art and the industry will just push out generated crap for people who don't care.
@budgetkeyboardist
@budgetkeyboardist 6 күн бұрын
Well put - and I think we're already there. A lot of people are making their money via live performance because practically no one buys music any more.
@Positive_Tea
@Positive_Tea 6 күн бұрын
Good take actually 💯
@iRelevant.47.blacklisted
@iRelevant.47.blacklisted 2 күн бұрын
Imagine the profit potential for Spotify etc. Not much left of the streaming pot for real artists. Business model is dead.
@Crazy.Beautiful
@Crazy.Beautiful 2 күн бұрын
A.I. was already used for pop and top hits already for a long time... they all sound the same, pop artist are all fake, the octane-core "metal" all sound the same... country is a dime a dozen.. and NOW its available to the public and everyone can call themselves a musician as well. My life propose is gone.. everything, my touring days, my recording studio days, my hopes that making music will one day make me feel my worth... GONE. This effects so many careers and people! This changes everything
@saber-work
@saber-work Күн бұрын
Took you long enough. Music is in this state for like last 20 years.
@GM-qz9fo
@GM-qz9fo 3 сағат бұрын
Just be creative, your worth is not defined by those things, keep growing.
@Rasenschneider
@Rasenschneider 6 күн бұрын
We had Bands in the 70s who were no musicians but dancers and the music was produced in the studio by other people.
@nightfightsday
@nightfightsday 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, but those people weren't AI. Real people made that music. Not a good comparison in my book.
@lukassbeataddicts
@lukassbeataddicts 4 күн бұрын
We had Mili Vanilla in the 90’s. Girl you know it’s true 😂
@Rasenschneider
@Rasenschneider 4 күн бұрын
@@nightfightsday Where do you want to draw the Line? Using: Computers, Audio quantization, AutoTune, Melodyne, Multitrack, Using Turntables for Dancing? Using a Score? That all is fake if you want. You may also use those tools for making "bad" music or for making "good" music, whatever that means, or for making money if you care for music or if you do not care.
@svarogstudio
@svarogstudio 6 күн бұрын
I think the real trouble for us doing mixing and mastering is gonna start pretty soon. There will be simple AI tools where you drop in your raw tracks, give it some prompts and reference songs, and in seconds the generative AI, or whatever, will shape those sounds into a great sounding mix. And yes... I think it will be able to replicate the emotions and everything else we put into our mix, that we now think only a human can do.
@willespalazzo
@willespalazzo 5 күн бұрын
Yeah most likely, people thinking AI development will stop JUST short of the thing you are describing are incredibly naive i feel like. 100% where this is headed. Question is what's going to happen to the industry at large.
@maw0380
@maw0380 5 күн бұрын
Exactly. People have often made the mistake of thinking they are special. For instance, they once believed that the Earth was the center of the universe and that only humans possessed consciousness and intelligence, which research into animal behavior disproves. Additionally, there is the arrogant belief that a god would grant humans eternal life. These examples highlight how this misplaced sense of specialness leads to misunderstandings about our true place in the universe.
@mediastreamview9528
@mediastreamview9528 4 күн бұрын
Those options have been out for a while already. Audiolens + Neutron ..There are many more released as VST plugins.
@iRelevant.47.blacklisted
@iRelevant.47.blacklisted 2 күн бұрын
@@maw0380 That is just your opinion ... :)
@brianwilson49
@brianwilson49 5 күн бұрын
It's all very well the majors suing these AI sites for copyright infringement, but don't kid yourself they’re doing it for altruistic reasons; it's becuase they want to control the market themselves.
@GM-qz9fo
@GM-qz9fo 3 сағат бұрын
Spot on!
@Monokino
@Monokino 4 күн бұрын
I'm quite relieved to see that others also write something so random in the song description field. I always do the same, so it's nice to know I'm not the only one. Writing prompts feels very weird - grew up knowing that making and creating music was my way of dealing with life and emotions-something a text prompt can not really replace.
@RichCurtisDJ
@RichCurtisDJ 10 күн бұрын
AI is the easiest way to make a killer remix of Sandstorm
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 6 күн бұрын
"a killer", yes - a killer of human ingenuity (which arises through necessity). now Laziness "Rules"....or at least, the Old Money is successful at instilling complacency in the masses.
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 6 күн бұрын
Dang, you came in hot to the chat.🤣 Went right in for the kill. I like it.
@ir8123
@ir8123 6 күн бұрын
''Creative AI tools can be seen as sophisticated plagiarism software, as they do not produce genuinely original content but rather emulate and modify existing works by artist, subtly enough to circumvent copyright laws" - Chat GPT,2024
@iggswanna1248
@iggswanna1248 6 күн бұрын
"Creative AI tools generate original content by synthesizing learned patterns, much like humans do when they create out of inspiration and influence, not by plagiarizing. They use vast data to create new, unique outputs, much like how humans draw on their knowledge and experiences." --also CHATGPT 4o
@ir8123
@ir8123 6 күн бұрын
@@iggswanna1248 Wrong,humans grasp of the idea what currently (feels) dominant (emotion) then brought it trough the art of self perspective,where self pesrpective is expresion of unique individual.
@youareliedtobythemedia
@youareliedtobythemedia 6 күн бұрын
That wrong though. Ai does produce completely new works, the same way humans do. Humans also base their creative work on years of learned data. In fact you can see what happens without that learning process if you give pens to a 2 year old. And ai is fully capable to produce new things. Take alpha go or alpha chess for example. Which invented whole new ideas for the game which humans are now copying
@88bsides
@88bsides 6 күн бұрын
@@youareliedtobythemedia its not the same as an algorithm that steals for corporate profit.
@nilespeshay1734
@nilespeshay1734 6 күн бұрын
@@youareliedtobythemedia Udio tells you, plainly, that it might produce the same EXACT song multiple times for different people. I don't think that would be the case if Udio was truly producing "completely new works"... from it's own "creative" brain/code. I think a lot of people who have ZERO access to the code are making presumptions about how these "AI" sites work. And those presumptions aren't based in fact or anything concrete.
@carelbrouwers1707
@carelbrouwers1707 5 күн бұрын
AI zal een zegen blijken voor de muziekindustrie. Het zal het kaf van het koren scheiden. Iedereen kan straks muziek maken die gebaseerd is op het grote corpus muziek dat er nu is. Voor de échte componisten en muzikanten wordt de uitdaging om mooiere en originelere muziek te maken dan AI genereert. Dat wordt de uitdaging en dat is alleen maar goed, want het dwingt om echt creatief aan de slag te gaan...
@Fred_Free
@Fred_Free 6 күн бұрын
A wishful dream that AI can't generate emotions. I've already created AI songs with great "feel" that beats many real artists by horse lengths. AI will force more genuineness from human artists, mechanical monotone hip-hop songs with autotuned robotic voices will be a forgotten thing of the past. 😎
@williambyrne6855
@williambyrne6855 3 күн бұрын
What it means to be a creative individual is rapidly becoming irrelevant when it concerns one's creative expression within society. And the ability to convince others of one's authentic creativity will become difficult. AI is effectively a tool of plagiarism in virtually every discipline including the arts, literature, and science. The "Music Industry" itself has been crap for decades, so no love lost there.
@Fatherjohn76
@Fatherjohn76 5 күн бұрын
Putting aside my own existential dread around this tech, I can see it being commonly used as a way of thickening a real vocal take by mixing an original vocal recording with an AI generated version. Thus retaining some humanity but short cutting doubling vocals and editing them to fit. In short, Instant tuneful stacking. Massive time saver without fully surrendering to the robots. That’s how I see it playing out initially - producers subtly blended it with the source human recordings, at least until the tech matures a bit more. It’s scary but you’re right - people are going to get left behind if this isn’t embraced on at least some level
@ruderuda
@ruderuda 6 күн бұрын
Real art (any form) is mainly about emotions. That's what makes us human and that is exactly why I am not worried about AI made music - it might be a good tool but it will never make actual art. Don't worry guys and keep creating art in whatever way you see fit🙂
@kalidesu
@kalidesu 5 күн бұрын
So true, Ai will always be a tool.
@JoshMobleyMusic
@JoshMobleyMusic 6 күн бұрын
The premise that AI music is only going to take over commercials and sync Is the logical fallacy I’ve seen in other industries. That emotion and real human input will carry the day. This is a naïve take. If it can take over background music, it can take over foreground music period. It’s that simple.
@dans5529
@dans5529 6 күн бұрын
Yeah, people continuously underestimate the potential of AI. They make assumptions based on its current state and think it’s going to stay like that forever. When in reality, this technology is evolving rapidly and it has the potential to fundamentally change almost every aspect of civilisation.
@stepans2167
@stepans2167 2 күн бұрын
The more ai-generated content there is, the shitter it's output will be. Those algorithms are not that special. AI isn't intelligent, it just regurgitates what it's given
@user-iv4rn6rn9q
@user-iv4rn6rn9q 6 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! Looked like you had fun with this tough topic. 🎉🎶 -real person
@Bluelagoonstudios
@Bluelagoonstudios 5 күн бұрын
Nope, it's on a thin line from copyright issues. I made a jingle for the studio and first thing my best friend and I recognized the voice of the lead singer from OMD but pitched a bit higher, Andy McCluskey. So there are going to discussions in the future. What I also noticed, that the mastering sounds "ruk" and full of phase issues. What I was impressed from was the individual vocals processed by AI. So individual instruments processing is in danger for us. But what about 10 years? It will probably that good, that we become "obsolete"? Younger people hear immediately that it is AI. Something we adults can't hear. There is a video from Rick Beato about the subject, and he doesn't hear its AI, but his son, also expert in music notes, directly said, this is AI.
@thesilencer6736
@thesilencer6736 5 күн бұрын
Art is and has always been all about people connecting with each other on an emotional level, it's self-expressing. Those AI pros that you mentioned lack the whole idea of it. AI doesn't have thoughts, it lacks authenticity because it doesn't come from itself personally, it comes from pre-made templates of other people.
@JulienFritz-tu1gg
@JulienFritz-tu1gg 6 күн бұрын
The music industry does a pretty good job of that on its own 😂
@muzy8768
@muzy8768 2 күн бұрын
The music industry was destroyed for the real musicians years ago. I don't see the AI as the ultimate destroyer
@morbidmanmusic
@morbidmanmusic 10 сағат бұрын
my long term theory, as a musician and recording engineer, is that recording led us to this point and that is where the problem started. Recording music takes away the first and most honest presentation. Some famous composers agree with my premise. Recording is bad for music, though history and preservation poses a issue... of should we or not. Arguments for both sides. An once it was an industry" it was over anyway.
@dykodesigns
@dykodesigns 6 күн бұрын
That first example reminded me of the lyrical style of an old new jack swing style funk rap that was once made as an advertisement in the early 90’s for HP. They even made a video clip with a Bobby Brown look-a-like dancing and rapping about the HP series 700 Unix workstations. It’s pretty a hilarious song, back then such a thing had to be created and conceived by humans spending a good amount of time on it to create the concept. These modern AI tools are a wet dream for ad agencies that need to whip together a song for an ad in an afternoon. It’s too easy. The third example reminded me a lot about the sort of thing you get from arranger keyboards that wedding entertainers use with auto accompaniment styles. But this AI version sounded like a really cheap one, some arranger keyboards sound quite decent as a lot of work is done by skilled musicians that create those auto accompaniment styles (they have a lot different genre’s in them). AI tools result in boring music, it’s a lot more fun to dissect a song of a favourite artist and try to recreate some elements from it and transform into something completely different and spends weeks on it and learn new things from it.
@boeiend100
@boeiend100 5 күн бұрын
Sueing Suno is like when they went after Napster. Good luck. This will only become larger, time to change their revenue models
@GoranBackmanMusic
@GoranBackmanMusic 2 күн бұрын
Suno is getting sued right now for training their models on copyrighted material. The evidence is overwhelming, the only question is if US law is prepared or not.
@shokuninstudio
@shokuninstudio 4 күн бұрын
Consumers of entertainment and sports want performances by people. If they didn't care then we would have seen athletes replaced with bots playing virtual sports. In the late 90s they predicted celluloid film would die and CGI would replace all actors. 25 years later top films are still shot on celluloid and CGI is still nowhere close to the level predicted, and neither is generative AI. All these new genAI tools become absorbed into the toolbox alongside synthesisers, drum machines, auto tune, CGI, VFX, etc. New tools always come with some limitations that make them hard to fully replace former tools. For example, with those generative music services you can't change notation or reorder any tracks. You need to be able to do things like that in real time. Their terms of use are usually censored too, so if you want to make a political, satirical or angry song then the generative action will fail and show you a warning message. There might be some examples of genAI entertainment that will be successful in the near future. They will claim a machine did it all but in reality there will be teams of people pulling the strings and spending a lot of money on marketing. It will be a hype driven campaign pushed by scam outlets like CNBC and reported on by smooth brained journalists whose articles are always reworded version of 'scary_tech_article.doc in their templates folder.
@ileryon4019
@ileryon4019 6 күн бұрын
what people dont understand is that AI one day is going to perfect in dithering
@Rasenschneider
@Rasenschneider 6 күн бұрын
AI IS dithering. At least the diffusion models add more and more noise to the material to a point where nothing as noise is left from the original material. As far as I understand. So how could anyone have copyrights on noise?
@freebby
@freebby 6 күн бұрын
@@Rasenschneiderbasically all noises, i totally agree
@davidcuny7002
@davidcuny7002 2 күн бұрын
Re: Copyright protection. US Courts have ruled that only works created by humans are eligible for copyright. So all this music that AI is generating (assuming the output isn't copyright infringing) is copyright free.
@richardpress9551
@richardpress9551 Күн бұрын
The best job in the music industry is being a busker, best paid too
@farley333
@farley333 3 күн бұрын
Ok. Here's my problem with this: I hate the de-personalization of music that this inherently brings to the table. Yes. Even before AI. It was easier then ever for everyone to write a note. You didn't need the schools. You didn't need the years of practise on an instrument. (...though both still exteremely valuable.) You could just click the note with your mouse. Yes. But it was YOUR note. YOU were the judge. And while that judgement was being made in your head, YOU were considering all the things YOU liked in YOUR past. With AI, that "YOU" part is gone. Yes. It writes down a note as well. Yes, it's a combination of older material. But the judgement, the selection, is based on (a dataset-sourced) probability and a little bit of noise. Yes, you can re-generate that prompt few times, but it's still ends up being a random combination of other's stuff. That intention is very limited, if it exists at all. If we normalize in listener's head that this kind of music is equal to the one made thanks to human descision making, then we say "humanity is random, there's no purpose to it". ...and to me that's a reall dangerous message to youngsters.
@RonniePenko
@RonniePenko 13 сағат бұрын
Damn it's been destroyed for a long time. Now it's just the last nail in the coffin.
@trusto1016
@trusto1016 14 сағат бұрын
Not AI, people! We let everything happen to us,we have the power to not go along with any of it.
@lorcazola
@lorcazola 5 күн бұрын
2:35. DUDE ! You got your new Theme Song right there ! Have real session musicians replay it.....
@TheCephalus
@TheCephalus 4 сағат бұрын
AI does not operate in isolation, it needs professionals to create the AI models.
@me33042
@me33042 3 күн бұрын
One place I could see this being used is in the lower budget TV movie industry. Creating a schmaltzy song or two in a Hallmark movie would be much cheaper than buying one and paying royalties.
@hasp24
@hasp24 4 күн бұрын
What's happened with the music industry definitely cannot be blamed on AI!!!
@unc1589
@unc1589 6 күн бұрын
Your passion for music and being moved by all aspects of it is what makes you unique. Can’t say the same the masses. The generation that used to be as passionate about artist/ lyrics/ music, died in the album era. The “Almost Famous” era. But lingered till the second half of the 80s. When sad girls used to fall asleep clutching their albums.
@drnabs872
@drnabs872 6 күн бұрын
That first song is 💯 an impersonation of Anderson paak 🤣 great to finally have you pov on this 🍻
@TheKanguru
@TheKanguru 4 күн бұрын
as someone who has been producing for 5 years now , I'm excited about the creative applications of generative ai for artists. if you have knowledge of your artistic field before you jump in, your creative ability and interaction skills are going to far surpass that of someone with no experience in their chosen artistic field when trying to get something desired from AI . its more applicable as a learning tool as well as an inspirational tool. if the AI music is good and inspiring im happy for it. personally being able to have a lead vocalist and an entire band to create inspiring music that i would never have been able to do without years more dedication to learning a different genres ins and outs + having to find a vocalist and spending lots of money. now we can have music we have imagined at our fingertips and personally that inspires me to hopefully one day see real musicians playing the music ai helped to lay the foundation for( thanks to the amazing human artists creativity). ALSO shifting to Movies, there is such a flood of utter trash movies these days, im looking forward to the day when a person can create an amazing story from their mind and produce it to share.
@driesketels805
@driesketels805 6 күн бұрын
When I was producing and mixing music. I based my decisions on feelings that would arise inside of me. AI can’t do that. I think that’s interesting
@nathanheinzeart
@nathanheinzeart 4 күн бұрын
Yes, but keep in mind that AI by definition takes human creations as its input. So if things like drama, tension, release, dynamics, emotion, etc. are present in human compositions, those will be translated with increasing accuracy into AI output.
@matiasmoulin2126
@matiasmoulin2126 5 күн бұрын
AI is not destroying the music business - It's boosting it by cutting the artists. Total revenue through zero payrolls. Now THAT'S A BUSINESS! Unfortunately it's too late to wake up!
@papahuge
@papahuge 4 күн бұрын
AI is destroying humanity... slowly but surely.
@EarleHolder
@EarleHolder Күн бұрын
I heard that Suno and Udio are both being sued by the three record labels. Word on the street is that they used AI to craft the 37 page lawsuit.🧐
@songwriterxandtheskeletonband
@songwriterxandtheskeletonband Күн бұрын
This song is a HIT! I'm thinking maybe I should cover it. Even the title is a hit, Carolina-Oh
@mellodope8904
@mellodope8904 3 күн бұрын
The Kendrick/Drake beef highlighted the two extremes. Drake's weird use of Snoop and Tupac versus Metro's use of BBL Drizzy. Sampling didn't destroy the industry like they said it would. DAWs didn't destroy the industry. The internet didn't do it. Creative will always find a way.
@happyshadow
@happyshadow 5 күн бұрын
There will be a new form of PRO that will deal with paying out training royalties. You will opt in or out during the distribution stage. Most people will opt in because it won't feel like a big problem. The big artists will opt out and will make loads more money licensing training data to high end tier ai generative platforms. Meanwhile a resurgence of "good old fashioned" music will take place with an emphasis on organic human performance. After a while AI models will be trained on Organic human made music styles and a new Punk AI music style will surface where creative artists take malformed ai interpretations of organic music and distort, mangle and manipulate it into a new credible genre (which will later be modelled) ;)
@gulagwarlord
@gulagwarlord 5 күн бұрын
Udio is way better than Suno, sounds less "plastic".
@SakariKaripuro
@SakariKaripuro 3 күн бұрын
the funk song is already more interesting than 99,99% of major label human produced music.
@narrator-timothymckean
@narrator-timothymckean 2 күн бұрын
AI will take low-level / entry-level work in many industries. It's an interesting dichotomy because as tools make it easier to get into a creative field, they also make it harder to get into that field professionally by taking away the entry level work.
@northwoodzhiphop
@northwoodzhiphop 12 сағат бұрын
I agree. And besides the music industry just wait until AI is fully self aware. 😳
@Ffhh391
@Ffhh391 Күн бұрын
I tried to do some traditional songs with AI in reggae style. It's the free version. Whoever heard it was impressed. If you had a pro version to edit and not to work on luck. It would be unattainable for 99% of musicians today. It is interesting that some songs can be done by a phenomenal 10 versions. While some text simply cannot be used in any style. For me as a musician, all this killed the meaning of composing. What we are left with is an acoustic instrument and a light song with company under a tree. This happened to agriculture a long time ago. The peasant manages to get a couple of large strawberries. Then comes the GMO producer with tons of large strawberries of identical color and size. And if they don't have taste, people follow their eyes. We live in the late afternoon. It's almost night... End is near
@SynthoidSounds
@SynthoidSounds 4 күн бұрын
The ironic "dangers of AI" song is actually pretty cool. Infecting the music world is extreme "genreism". In order to get anything to be listened to by anyone (like on Spotify, for example), it has to be crammed into one or more of the rigidly enforced predefined genres, based on the calculus of genre-x seems to be the popular thing of the moment, so everyone rushes in with the same cookie cutter "machine music" rendering, complete with the same generic artwork, like moths to a light, hoping to get noticed, and producers slavishly hoping they'll discover the next "big" hit version of the same mechanical genre, rather than venturing a bit outside that box.
@Makiguli
@Makiguli 6 күн бұрын
Honestly, when I listen to the audio quality of these AI-generated music creations, I think we're far from being finished... Frankly, it sounds like a bad 128 kbps MP3 and thus isn't usable in a professional environment! As for the lyrics... PFFF, they're completely meaningless... I believe listeners are looking for meaning in lyrics, if there are any in a track; it's better to have a good instrumental than a song with crappy lyrics! Well okay, we all know one or more totally shitty tracks that have become hits! (whether musically, artistically, or in terms of lyrics... but well... it's not a rule!) Where we should start worrying is when Musical AIs create a complete track by offering you stems of each instrument/track in 24/96, where you only have to do the mix and mastering... But we're not there yet! Far from it! And you know, there's no guarantee that Suno will still be around in a year, especially with a huge lawsuit underway from the three largest American record labels for plagiarism, as this AI (and others!) have been trained on millions of already released tracks without the consent of the original authors! It's clearly copyright infringement! And in my humble opinion, this won't last very long... There's so much money at stake! Music today is an industry, let's not forget that... and it's not very inclined to stand by and even less to be surpassed... In my opinion, we still have some good years ahead of us... But of course, as always, we must be vigilant and make these tools not competitors but allies... it's also our job as sound engineers to keep up with technological advancements in our field... Keep pushing, man!
@user-rm1um2lf9x
@user-rm1um2lf9x 5 күн бұрын
AI companies have stolen from many artists when training their systems. I am also careful when using the systems, as I don’t want to feed my ideas to them as there is absolutely no copyright protection for your input. Only the best producers and artists will survive and be “better” than AI. But all new producers and artists need time to grow and become good. With less opportunities and money in the music industry, there will be less and less new blood entering into the industry, hence fewer great artists/ musicians / producers in the future.
@TATA-lw9yc
@TATA-lw9yc 6 күн бұрын
The music Industry....those recordcompanies that enslave talented musicians because they have a music promotion network for airplay which is hard to get into as an outsider? Using AI to write lyrics will get you a lot of AI overused words like, echoes, shadows, neon, light, souls. I think UDIO is the best one. AI generated audio is a great thing for the future if you think about it in a creative way.
@scorpionleader1967
@scorpionleader1967 5 күн бұрын
Self-proclaimed producers are doomed, but it was a bubble destined to burst anyways.🤣
@stuseagar
@stuseagar 4 күн бұрын
I think it isn't the end. It will cause massive change its a disruptor not because it innovates but as AI advances produces to many replications of style and production techniques. Why for a short but important time it creates to much content. Perfect written and produced Hit Songs and causes total saturation of the music market. 10 of thousands of hit songs a day until its sophisticated enough to create new genres and sing styles and music techniques that are new and appeal to humans. AI that smart is too dangerous or of greater purpose than creating music so will be restricted and controlled but comes fast at us. Before that the early AI's have flooded us with too much of our own creativity reproduced. So we stop listening, Change music ourselves, produce differently and innovate as humans like we always have in music. Huge genre changes and style changes is the result until it gets replicated. AI vs Low Fi-Tech. AI makes pop music for models who sing in arenas, same thing... Weird unique creators with flaws and quirks have the same market place but perhaps more willing listeners.
6 күн бұрын
So far AI can apply what it has learned form us. We still have the creative process to start from nothing. As long we have drive to create and solve problems will be ahead of AI.
@fabguyver9979
@fabguyver9979 4 күн бұрын
@MDMvision
@MDMvision 6 күн бұрын
I'm still wondering how the A.I. computer program actually puts the music together... cannot find info about that.... Like is it like MIDI ? does it create from samples and midi composition triggering those samples? or does it just generate a blob of sound that sounds like a (shitty) band? It all sounds terrible tho, really plastic, and fake and bland, and the lyrics are always weird , without any poetry in it nor true emotion .. and the voices sound like shit too.. But then theres a lot of radio music that sounds like shit too....anyway, how does AI actually technically 'generate' sound?
@happyshadow
@happyshadow 5 күн бұрын
As a human music is complicated, full of detail. To a computer it's just a shape, a waveform with intricate angles, if you train a language model with waveforms it can very easily take key words (a prompt) and replicate parts of relevant shapes and weave them together. The hard bit is training it so that it doesn't accidentally 100% copy waveforms it's been trained on.
@MDMvision
@MDMvision 5 күн бұрын
@@happyshadow bro there isn't even good translation AI yet. ( i mean from language to another language ) AI can't even really get human 'meaning', like the way Spanish people think and use words and phrasing or UK or US english. Good translation isn't even a thing yet. Good captions by 'listening' also not. What are we talking about... 'AI music' I havent heard any Music yet coming from AI. And ChatGPT is just Google. It just googles shit and puts it together.
@happyshadow
@happyshadow 5 күн бұрын
@@MDMvision what ? lol. have you not tried using Udio or Suno? go try Udio out and see
@ChristianBoragine
@ChristianBoragine 4 күн бұрын
wanting to see things in a slightly optimistic way we could hope that AI will do to music what photography did to the visual arts, giving birth to Modernism, freeing the unconscious and experimentation in a sector that was previously mainly figurative and didactic.
@markdeboerfotografie
@markdeboerfotografie 6 күн бұрын
AI is a tool, just as any other tools for songwriters and producers. If you learn to use the tool you can benefit from that. If you do not learn to use the tool you might be caught up with time. Just the same with analog recording (or photography) vs digital. It is good if you are able to do both of them.
@lennartlennart2264
@lennartlennart2264 2 күн бұрын
”this is how we made our new album” in a youtube clip, to prove that the music is not made with AI. nerds will demand it soon
@gutterg0d
@gutterg0d 4 күн бұрын
You can't be impressed if you're biased against it and expect perfect results. I think it's impressive as hell, but it won't replace the human touch yet.
@Adiels69
@Adiels69 2 күн бұрын
The thing is to use the song and re-record it. Use it as a songwriter not a final recording. Unfair to judge it as a "released" audio recording
@michaelacostantini
@michaelacostantini 4 күн бұрын
An oddity is that these AI music sites are learning off of a lot of songs where the singer has been autotuned. Sometimes you can hear it in the AI vocal.
@v-future1444
@v-future1444 3 күн бұрын
The magic of music lies in melodies, and composing them is a skill worth honing! While AI tools are emerging, many musicians can benefit from focusing on melody writing. The truth is most musicians can't compose good melodies, they use a chord progression and play random notes over a scale and then make it complicated, that's not enough to make a song good because if any person can't remember what you composed, your song is fucking trash, I'm sorry for bursting your bubble. A strong chord progression is a great foundation, but the unforgettable tunes are what truly capture hearts. Think about your favorite songs, chances are you can easily hum the melody. Complexity can be impressive, but it will never overshadow a memorable melody. Here's the good news: By focusing on nice AI-generated melodies, you can craft music that resonates with listeners and keeps them coming back for more. Music is a conversation, after all! Invite listeners in with captivating melodies, and then explore your unique musical voice within that framework. Don't discard AI, learn something about it, maybe it can improve the horrible tunes you are composing with great AI-generated melodies. You can learn a thing or two from AI music, at least it will give you fresh ideas.
@ICanFixThat2
@ICanFixThat2 Күн бұрын
The labels sued ... BUT .... they also are investing on creating their own AI tools trained by their catalogs, that's why they are mad. At the end we are trapped in the middle.. labels (streaming services) want to own EVERYTHING, and we musicians and producers are not in their future plans.
@keithlane4705
@keithlane4705 4 күн бұрын
I don't understand how you can say it makes it from nothing, ignoring all the people it's been trained on, stolen and devalued. I had more respect for you before you said that.
@vidworxsfx
@vidworxsfx 6 күн бұрын
Both Suno and UDIO are both in a huge law suite with the 3 largest record companies for possible copyright infringement, not sure how that will work out for them as right now it seems its using CR music to scan without permission.
@dsimpson-i3i
@dsimpson-i3i 4 күн бұрын
Also at the moment no-one can own the copyright of AI art so the industry will not be able to own it the way they traditionally have. So you can freely use their art without any fear of copyright strikes as they can't own it. Can't see the industry going along with that.
@elmentor8919
@elmentor8919 5 күн бұрын
AI is only a threat for non-musicians who are in there just for money reasons. They should find another job . Good. Meanwhile, AI is a blessing for creative artists. Super !
@NikosKatsikanis
@NikosKatsikanis 4 күн бұрын
pls explain more
@damondrobinson3313
@damondrobinson3313 4 күн бұрын
Don't underestimate this because in the next 5 years this tech will advance 100X plus to be more accurate, interesting, human and much closer to being indistinguishable !
@jona_KardCiv1
@jona_KardCiv1 3 күн бұрын
Music is art and it is business. But also it is art. Make music for yourself.
@Mark-ec3lp
@Mark-ec3lp 2 күн бұрын
People who think music is free killed music, broadband helped deal the final death blow, and even worse are idiots who think being on Spotify is a good thing to 'get their music out there'. If I walk into a shop today and take items out the door without paying I get arrested and charged by the police. I can download music, any amount and worth a ton, and yet I don't even get a knock on my door. Music and films, software, all is lost on piracy and unless it's policed then unfortunately I can't ever see people earning from sales of their productions in the future.
@michaellarsen180
@michaellarsen180 6 күн бұрын
Music is trying to share a feeling/emotion you either had yourself, or that you want the listeners to have. I have played around with both Suno and Udio for some time, and I agree with you when you say it's missing soul. But in a year or two it could be good - sadly. I rarely root for labels (lawsuit ongoing), but in this case, I might.
@morbidmanmusic
@morbidmanmusic 10 сағат бұрын
The weirdest thing about the tunes are the when you make stems. Stuff that sounds normal all together sounds really crazy and atonal even, apart. My personal music stems don't exhibit that out of tune effect when split. Also,, with some work these fool even well school players and musicians... this is the early days .. so, yeah, unless we decide to unplug and never record to compete we won't win.
@AliceVixie
@AliceVixie 3 күн бұрын
When music users realize that AI music is good enough, they will throw the baby (those geniuses) out with the bathwater. Human made music will become more of a hobby. something like horse raiding. And, honestly, to me custom made Udio outputs for my weird prompts (that usually require big orchestra among other components) are already more interesting than what I am forced to consume from human artists.
@GhostWriter_Music
@GhostWriter_Music 5 күн бұрын
ai is for those who can't afford a producer, or 10 writers, or someone to master the track, or maybe a pianist, or a guitarist, or drummer, maybe female singer, male singer, a singer from any region of the planet. The real power will be when you don't have to hire these individual people. At the moment, you can only get ai to do complete songs, but when you can use ai in a daw and get it to create the bits you don't like to do, just say you are a guitarist and singer, and just want it to do the drums, bass and lead from your prompt, or maybe a female backing vocalist, from a song you actually wrote the melody for, well that will be powerful. there is also those stuck on melodies, could use a melody randomiser, or chord creator, and use those chords with the melody, ect.. AI is a little scary for those who want to create music, but it shouldn't be.
@nothority_artist
@nothority_artist 3 күн бұрын
AI can perform LIVE any dead artist it wants... And people will go to those concerts. -
@digidope
@digidope 13 сағат бұрын
No need anymore for mixing engineers and mastering engineers when AI spits out full mixes. That is not bad thing.
@emiel333
@emiel333 3 күн бұрын
Can you elaborate on some AI being snake oil? AI (Artificial Intelligence) applications work by feeding the model existing examples of whatever it has to output. In this case, Suno and Udio are being trained with existing, copyrighted music from any genre and artist you can think of. If you give it the right prompts, you’ll get an exact replica of an existing song. This is already noticed by the 3 major labels (Sony, Universal, Warner), and they are preparing a lawsuit against Udio and Suno (they already started and both AI companies are already notified of this) for infringement on copyrighted music. It won’t be over soon due to many legal challenges and contracts that describe copyrighted music in different countries and a lot more. You can guess who will win this lawsuit (obviously). You can’t get away with infringement on a copyright. AI in general isn’t even so smart at all. The only thing it does is create random numbers that correspond with the material that it is trained with. So in short, AI is a random number generator. The successor to current AI will be AGI, and that is a lot more complex than AI. It can do more and isn’t depended on existing algorithms alone. It can also do self improvement by training itself. This will be a very important step in history. And because it will only evolve as time goes by, when do we decide what it can and cannot do? Current AI like ChatGPT is sometime saying to users that it suffers. How will we measure this against a living creature? I can go deeper but I won’t. I already wrote a long comment probably no one will read (I couldn’t care less tbh).
@AMPProf
@AMPProf 6 күн бұрын
Ok what is it: User input midi to Trans Code magic bla bla (Super Maths) to Electrical Pulse code that interacts with Magnets to create Pressure waves that may or may not have Copyright paper work.. As Opposed To A computer doing it Automatically based on the data of Arranged Pixels.
@Lordxfx
@Lordxfx 3 күн бұрын
Artists will soon find a way to replace the Music Industry with AI. : ))
@astro_poly
@astro_poly 4 күн бұрын
they need a lot of funds and investors so they will continue to spread rumors. Biggest example is Midjourney. I'm working in the graphic and animation field and everyone was so afraid that midjourney would take the graphic designers jobs. But in the end it can't do something (nice) twice the same or in 1 style with the companies logos and colors. In the end its just a mangling of a million inputs and then something comes out of there. It kinda sucks but also doens't its a nice tool and i think AI wil allways (als long as we live tho) be just a tool. Its nice to come up with concepts and textures and abstract things but that's it actually. It will be the same for Sora for video, it will just be a tool like a stockfootage website is and you can do some cool abstract musicvideo's or shots you can't film yourself but don't expect it to make an entire movie with a lot of emotions and a fixed character that the viewer can connect to.
@DarioToledo
@DarioToledo 6 күн бұрын
Even as an artist there's some value in these tools, imho. I take advantage of AI in order to get inspiration on creating new music. If you think of it as a support instead of a replacement it can level up your production. It might not be a coincidence that the most common generated contents on Suno/Udio are unlikely genre mashups, like ancient china metal or pirate themed techno. Which is laughable, but also shows the possibilities of crafting new sounds.
@Dystopian84
@Dystopian84 5 күн бұрын
The value is mainly for untalented “ artists “
@amishdoink
@amishdoink 5 күн бұрын
​@@Dystopian84 If you're scared of AI music taking you over how do you perceive yourself talented or your music valued in the first place?
@Dystopian84
@Dystopian84 5 күн бұрын
@@amishdoink scared isn't the right word here ... I just like to mock those who say : " I MADE a song or a piece of music " when they have just entered a few lines of text ... something that the average idiot is able to do easily , ,they fool themselves into believing that technology allow them to finally " express themselves " lol . If one day I end up doing something like that I would accept others calling me pathetic or untalented .
@DarioToledo
@DarioToledo 5 күн бұрын
@@Dystopian84 you might not be untalented, but surely you are starting to be too old for this world (which is pretty alarming considering that I'm born in 1984 as well). Where the hell did I ever say that you should MAKE a song with Suno, in fact I did say the exact opposite, to think of it like a support and not a replacement, and yet you are putting my comment on the same league of non-musician prompters.
@Dystopian84
@Dystopian84 5 күн бұрын
@@DarioToledo That " you are a boomer "generic insult is very weak when it comes to these things . I have seen a lot of idiots saying the exact same thing , almost word for word what you just said when I was mocking those who thought that NFTs and the metaverse were the " here to stay " inevitable future lol I am not alarmed that someone born in 1984 lacks self awareness , I have seen it before . Even if you waste time using UDIO as a " tool " by the time you are done millions of imbeciles will just use AI to easily generate and not as a tool , so it won't make any difference and you will be lost in the noise .
@shinyisshiny7780
@shinyisshiny7780 6 күн бұрын
Suno and Udio both are being sued in a pretty major lawsuit. They trained their models on copyrighted music. Also, as far as the "fans want to see live music" aspect. No, they dont. Sure, some do, but the majority, especially younger generations, just want some place to go to meet hang out with their friends that happens to have music. They could care less who is playing, as long as the music is the vibe they are after. If somebody creates a brand, lets call it Mr AI, and uses AI to create the music, market the music, build their social media etc, It doesnt matter if there is a real person behind it or not. Coachella would much rather pay Mr Ai, who has 20 million followers on tik tok, and just "played" their second boiler room set, a measly $10,000.00, instead of having to pay old and boring Deadmau5 $150,000.00. Mr Ai's live sets are literally just a playlist, with cool visuals. its a party, its not about the performer, its about the vibe. Sure there will always be a niche for human talent, somebody using ableton to launch tempo locked clips (created by AI) while playing an electronic drum pad every third song will surely thrive.
@ZerOneMusic
@ZerOneMusic 9 сағат бұрын
we need Metric Halo Mixhead snake oill video !!! its worth seeing this one since very trendy
@zatzen
@zatzen 5 күн бұрын
My Answer: NO. If you really want to make your very special own music, AI will not be able to take all the decisions from you. It can't read your mind about the hundreds of details you want to have in your composition and production.
@GaragebandandBeyond
@GaragebandandBeyond 6 күн бұрын
LOL I have a very similar video coming out soon! I hope you're well.
@mrdanjames
@mrdanjames 5 күн бұрын
Musicians went from being the content creator to the content consumer. That’s the most recent issue. AI is a form of techno-feudalism with monthly rental fees. Companies want musicians dependent on their tools, so they can charge for the service. This means the money flows away from the creators and into the pockets of finance executives. Even the AI programmers will eventually be replaced as the AI starts to train the AI… but the executives that own it will always profit.
@kalidesu
@kalidesu 5 күн бұрын
Maybe play real instruments again lol.
@mrdanjames
@mrdanjames 5 күн бұрын
@@kalidesuthat’s not under threat yet. I’m talking more about the huge industry of working musicians making catalog music. I think you are considering this as a musician that doesn’t rely on making music for a living. I’m thinking more as an educator that wants to understand the future of creativity and the affordances of tools (what outcomes can they produce and what are the processes that lead to these outcomes). I am also interested in larger things like power structures the perforate society. As a working engineer with over 25 years experience making a living, this presents a huge shift that will affect how we write music. But to suggest real instruments are infallible is like saying amps will never be replaced by digital…
@photonjiagu
@photonjiagu Күн бұрын
The music “industry” has produced a bunch of crap even before AI. It’s like art made at a factory. You can’t expect it to work without working at it. Sound effects made with elevenlabs produce wonderful samples if you have an imagination and experiment. I have made interesting ambient and avant-garde with Suno. It takes some time and effort.
@peterbrandt7911
@peterbrandt7911 5 күн бұрын
Imagine one of the streaming giants includes such an engine, lets you share "your" creations and fun fact, no human involvement, no revenue, so the streaming services can keep the already ridiculous low pps. Do we really wanna give away the highest way of human communication, the only thing that really tells humans and animals apart?
@sword-and-shield
@sword-and-shield 2 күн бұрын
The consumers, as always, will be the ones determining the success or failure of any art, regardless of the creator. For artist's, they wont need to learn mix and mastering at all, soon AI will do it all, and to professional level standards.
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