You should do a vid on some Norse Gods like Odin

The hold of lies is psychologically demonstratable, identity and idea are strongly interlinked lies in and of themselves are capable of blinding anyone if you lend them faith. Faith and belief are degrees of self commitment and the cost of disbelief is a loss of the commitment or investment of self, ie existential pain or loss of self, ie the pain of fear of death. People fear death and so they will grip any belief that they are sufficiently invested in regardless of truth and they will willfully destroy the truth for fear of being destroyed by the loss of self. Not sure if you follow as I am dissatisfied with my explanation but my point is the text describing satans influence is describing the effect of pride of knowing better, when people believe they alone understand the truth it lifts people into a state of seeming transcendence where they are immune to their own faults and so feel divine. You can observe this in people when they believe they know something others don’t, they will act as if they are special, if they are wrong they will fight you in some way if you point out their mistakes. This is essentially the greatest and last temptation of man as much of the pleasure religious and virtuous people feel is a sense of exaltation of being privy to something transcendent which they are but when they ignore the fact that they are fallible regardless of their station they become attached more to the feeling of exaltation and less to faith and the virtue of humble. Therefore they allow the very medicine which has exalted them to become a poison of downfall through being attatched to the effect of the light of truth rather than the ultimate goal of supreme servitude to virtue and truth in God. Again this is not solely a religious notion anytime you feel self satisfaction at understanding something others don’t you can witness the effect of this pride on your character, you can see how it makes you more difficult to communicate with and how it makes you callous and dissimissive of other points of view. The lie is that you can understand anything at all that is divine or “truth” in its entirety (in a way accounting for all the arguments and data points) from a single limited human perspective. The notion or moral being that people will only ever have a single limited point of view and cannot firmly settle on any set of ideas without ignoring some datapoints that are apparently contradictions. It doesn’t matter if the omission of facts or datapoints is willful ignorance or oversight the minute you believe you are capable of understanding something in full, you will feel a sense of pride and accomplishment in understanding that notion and that will then create a point of weakness where you will create a conflict in service to an idea regardless if you are right or wrong because it is a point of pleasure to know what you know. Your investment in your identity as someone who knows will cause You as a being to feel threatened. Our sense of personal investment of self service extends to any idea that bolsters our sense of being special. It doesn’t matter if that sense of being special is in suffering or bliss humans value a personal identity as if it where themselves and will attack others in apparent defense of self when in fact they are just defending an idea. We guard our ideas when they make us feel unique in our understanding regardless of if they are actually true or not or how true they are. We guard them as if they were our bodies or souls when they are just words. This is pride, the ability to mistakenly invest our sense of truth and justice in our intellect or egotistical sense of personal identity. Human beings fail to recognize self satisfaction as the inswell of pride and so we accumulate ideas as a sort of social buoyant. This is actually one reason why calling people stupid is a useful way of dismissing people as you can feel superior to others merely through a sense of understanding more regardless of what that person has over you. They can be more beautiful, stronger, wealthier and more popular etc etc. and yet still we can dismiss them simply for not comprehending ideas. That is how powerful lies or misunderstandings are we can derrive a sense of righteousness simply by feeling we know more. This is the obstacle to service of God as service to religious notions can swiftly turn to service in self without our recognition as the blessings of God and the swelling of pride in our chest both feel similar. Except on who is humble before Gods greatness, ie one who understands his knowledge of truth can never reach the ultimate summation of knowledge will inherently know they are wrong because they cannot possibly understand the whole, they are always limited in comprehension and so guard themselves from downfall by being open to other perspectives ie by not investigating themselves in their intelligence and so keeping open to being wrong. Being open to being wrong eliminates the pain of loss that occurs when we believe ourselves to be right and our confronted with some truth we overlooked, a humble person is curious to understand what they have missed a prideful person will create conflict and worse to guard their position of superior knowledge. The tale of Lucifer regardless of its religious context is also an allegory for how the most righteous are also the most vulnerable to the temptation of pride because that self satisfaction of knowing and the satisfaction of knowing God are very close in feeling when they are initially felt, it isn’t til pride has a hold on us that we start to feel the corruption that comes from fighting for ideas as if they were the ultimate truth and synonyms for who and what we are. All ideas are the original source of conflict in any war and it is our servitude to our sense of preservation of the good that makes us feel righteous when we fight for ideas. Yet fighting for ideas will increasingly result in every ill and heap shame upon us and others in the end and fighting for morality and virtue will never cause us to form regret nor heap shame on those that know us. Only by observing our initial self satisfaction or by being mindful of our defensiveness when we are confr😢with differing points of view can we guard ourselves from turning the medicine of truth into the poison of guarding lies. Atleast that is until your religious sense can come to a point where conflict is seen as an evil outright and then you will understand creating pain in others regardless of how right you are is still wrong. Then that extra buffer against pride is also present as you can also be mindful of a third step of entering into conflict and let the pride go a little later in the causal chain. In any case the notion is that any truth can be a source of arrogance and that arrogance leads you astray, to covet your own notion of what is true is to make any idea no matter how truthful into a lie. This is why people despise Christianity as many Christians see it as their religious duty to act in anger when they see lies but if that anger causes harm you will end up seen as the villain and you will pervert your sense of living in truth into a blank check to heap scorn upon others, and so in guarding your sense of morality you have chucked Christs and all visions of divinity on earth which always involve grace love and forgiveness as a living example out the window in exchange for feeling a sense of servitude to the truth. In point of fact you have actually created yourself as a servant of God as an idol. You see your service to some scripture as the ultimate truth instead of remaining in contact with grace. I would submit it is in almost every single circumstance impossible to do harm and remain in grace love and forgiveness yet people will mistakenly profess godliness while openly persecute people for disagreement. When it is that faithful persons job to lead the mistaken to truth as Christ did instead people cast others out as devils not for evil but for the false sin of not knowing, instead of winning people with love they scorn people for not being in the know, instead of educating people via example they attack others as their example while shouting scripture at them. This is the pride of service to ideas in the absence of godliness. It can happen to any religious person regardless of their sainthood right until the end, that is why pride is the ultimate sin because it perverts the very mechanisms that guard you from evil as a vehicle to mandate any evil. That is why it is the final and ultimate obstacle to salvation because it can turn anyone who knows the truth to mandate their own downfall by being attached to their intellectual understanding rather than the incomprehensible actual truth which is an ever present light of limitless knowledge. Rather than idea which is merely a small ray spark or piece of that greater light that cannot ever be possessed it can only be lived in via surrender to it. When people dwell in that light they feel they are lifted up, that can go to their head and they begun to identify with their station rather than their function in servitude and down they go. Any idea when we are attached to it can be falsely perceived as sacred or so close to us that we feel threaten ourselves when the notion is under threat our our sense of defending ourselves is lent to defending a notion and that notion being ephemeral can seem transcendent right unto the moment we snap out of our defensive rage and realize the harm we have done in service of nothing but a notion. A notion being no thing at all.

Can you do video on Digital DFevil Saga's enemy atma avatars?

Satan is referred to as Lucifer because he's a shining one. Jesus is also called shining one. It's a title.

@@raymondwright7692 The name "Lucifer" is a insult towards a Babylonian king and not a angel.

Smt fans when they happen to go to church be like: Is this a motherfucking SMT reference?!

@@Zerorenren4761, SMT fans during the Intercession: ayo, _YHVH,_ can I get a law ending?

@@jasonblundelldobebussing We do need a Law or Chaos ending to happen IRL at this point, TBH.

@@ltb1345, facts

@@ltb1345 Ether Law+ or Chaos+ from SJR is good for me. Law+ creates world peace and Chaos+ revolutionizes technology and culture, turns me into a cute fairy girl, and I get all my monster girl waifus made real. Either way it's a win/win.

Yep, one of the main reasons I don't like SMTIV's depictions very much lol

Not on earth

@@Tony4You Yeah that version can burn out of my memory for all I care

Alien Lucifer (SMT IV) and Metatron Lucifer (SMT V)

Alien man

Always happy when my videos are helpful

Before satan fall his name was Lucifer

Somthing to note is that the name "Lucifer " was more of insult towards to Babylonian king and not a angel falling.

Wrong. Lucifer means "morning star" or "light Bringer". Your definition is the scientific name for the planet Venus rising.@oTomahuK8945

@@Bajannubian095 No. Lucifer is a greco-roman god. Not a fallen angel. Think about it, all angels have hebrew names but for some reason Satan had a latin name?

Thanks so much. The one thing I learned while making these videos is that there is always something more to learn

The word name Satan was never mentioned untill jesus story time and the satan word is english they did not speak english at that time

It can also be translated to be accuser, which was part of the Israelites judicial system. Almost like a prosecutor, this would imply that he tells all of our sins to the father to try and damn us along side him. It’s another interesting angle to it

Learning that Satan means "adversary" IS like cracking the code! Lucifer is not our adversary!

​@@mosampson8862yes he is

More or less

Got to love the classic “Every poltergeist is a ghost but not every ghost is a poltergeist”- Spider-man

I mean, when you read the actual passages in the Bible there never has been a single one that equates Satan, Lucifer and the Devil as one being. It was more modern religious dogma who often conflated them all into one being.

Ha-satan literally meant "the accuser"

In SMT 1 Michael is the one of the final bosses on Neutral and the final boss on Chaos representing the Law alignment. Him being the one who fought Lucifer, I just realized it makes sense for Michael to be the Law faction's champion in a game series where Lucifer leads the forces of Chaos.

Michael is God, in the form of an angel. He and Lucifer were covering cherub. Ezekiel 28:12-17. Michael is the only angel that is worshipped. Joshua 5:13-15, Exodus 3:1-5, Daniel 10:13, 21, Daniel 12:1, Revelation 12:7-9

Why would Lucifer want to be called Satan? It's not as if he's being denied anything. You act as if it's "his" title that he's supposed to own alone instead of a word meaning opposer. You can't have such a poor grasp on what the video was about, can you? And it's not Atlus dissing anything, it's just Kaneko giving his interpretation of these various biblical entities. Not conflicting at all

@@grambortino Thats rich coming from someone who obviously has a poor grasp in understanding my comment. Something 20 other people was able to do.

And that lucifer satan story has a flaw we will still find if we live to the times given by daniel and moses

lucifer is a greco roman pagan god

Lucifer is a Greco-Roman God that also appears in other pagan religions as the morning star. He is not a biblical entity at all, and most certainly not evil. Quite the opposite.

Paradise Lost is just fanfiction where Lucifer gets butthurt, loses the war, then says to God "1v1 me bitch", and backs down when God is willing to go another round.

@@ellytorty I understand the times you are referencing, but do not understand the flaw. Please explain

Thank you legend

i remember you from the anarcocabritinho discord server lol

What is SMT?

​@@PhilR870shin megami tensei

​@@PhilR870 I don't mean to offend but...are you really asking that on an Smt video?

I read a version of the Old Testament, Satan is a job title for lord of Hell, Lucifer is the head Angel that was appointed to the post Satan by God. There was no enemy of God.

@@cck4863no how do you explain his battle with Michael

@@Fallen-gryphon Michael is Lucifer's ONLY competitor for soul. Both of them have this "pride" sin for being the GOD's BEST Employee Forever. Of course they don't like each other

@@cck4863 yea you haven’t read the Bible Michael being like God is a testament to him being sinless he’s Gods greatest warrior when Lucifer tries to trick him into combat over the body of Moses he says the Lord rebuke you what you are saying is blasphemy

@@Fallen-gryphon Bible is NEW Testament, and have been re-written like how many times already? Like many have said, there are versionS.

Every time I hear Apocalypse world map theme I get excite

He is also using a track from Devil Survivor 2.

bible verses: everyone’s favorite thing to take out of context 😉

Exactly. In that passage mentioned in the video we can even see that Lucifer precedes the phrase "son of the morning". In case people don't know, the Morningstar is Venus, which Romans at the time of the Bible was being written called Lucifer. It seems to me that later Christians misinterpreted this phrase and did not realize that the planet they called venus was Lucifer, and invented a new character based off of this misunderstanding.

Can you imagine your legacy thousands of years after your death is people thinking that you are “Literally satan” 😂

Except the bible states multiple times that Satan will be the king of Babylon, where Babylon is not the city Babylon that God destroyed, but the kingdom of wickedness setup before the end of days and the abomination of desolation. The king of Babylon was not the ruler of Babylon, as Satan ruled over him.

@@macicoinc9363 please cite the passages you are referring to. To me it sounds like you're pulling from revelations. Which isn't sound to do when analyzing the text as that was written around 800 years after Isaiah. You can not inscribe authorial intent retroactively. Even still i don't see how your point contradicts the fact that "Lucifer" or "Helel" was a title applied to king Nebuchadnezzar, comparing his glory to that of Venus

This video was a long time coming to be honest

Much appreciated! I hope so too, but most of all I'm glad people enjoy them

Always love getting comments like this, thanks for watching!

Greeks derive their mythology from the Bible

@@AllGloryandHonor it's the exact opposite. Christian religion was born from a mixture of Zoroastrianism, Greek and Latin Mythology and a little bit of reinvention

Greeks didn't derive their mythology from the bible. Greek mythology existed way before christianity. But if you want to say that the greeks grabbed a lot from the abrahamic religion, then sure. Hercules is basically a Samson ripoff. Samson killed a lion in a second, Hercules killed the nemian lion, etc.

@@Anti-Alphabet_Mafia Samson came before Hercules?

Means a lot, appreciate all the support

Always happy when I get people interested in theology. Thanks so much for watching

I've been meaning to make the video for a while now, thanks for watching!

Thanks a lot! Hope to see you commenting in the next videos too!

@@Tony4You Subscribed and hopeful for even better content. XD

It would appear that way. Really entertaining to watch

That anyone would get bent out of shape about Bronze Age myths is a sure sign we have a LONG way to go as a species.

😂 I hope so. I was about to say this man is spreading misinformation about the devil. As long as he talking about a game, I won’t have to whip out the bible scriptures on him.

Cultures must take note of how Venus (the morning star) rises and sets at the horizon and that influences the depictions of Eosphorus/Hesperus and Lucifer.

@@simeonwashington9995 You see I'm Greek I yesterday found out that we had a Lucifer

@@Reno_user that's pretty cool honestly!

@@simeonwashington9995 Yeah! and all the Luis Cypher(Lucifer) versions are cool to like the Aztec one.

bringing down could mean bringing those who rebelled with him to hell or earth, after being trampled by the forces of micheal and the other of God's loyal angels

Trampling someone's country could also be metaphor for being flattened by an attacking force. As if an assault were a one sided struggle for a time before the counter attacks actually began. 🤔 1/3 of heaven fell or was trampled (the place). 1/3 of the Angels (as in heaven's population) also fell resultant of Helel's lies and deceptions through various means. Thus it is an anagogical means of describing the ferocity of the war in heaven plus exaggerations.

You realize based is slang for someone on crack or acting weird. Also it's not really "redpilled" when it's somewhat common knowledge

@@happymate8943 where is it "common knowledge" that Satan and lucifer are different entities?

@@theingeniousone5141 In the bible "Lucifer" is a insult used towards a Babylonian king and not a angel. The term "satan" has been used on people and later on angels.

@@happymate8943 your knowledge doesn't reflect common knowledge dude

@@theingeniousone5141 That's because you guys would rather cherry pick quotes and verses than actually learn about the bible or the history of this religion. Lol

Here's hoping lol

Superbook?

People just seem to be figuring that out lol. I always liked YuGiOh

Happy I could spread some of the lesser known aspects of the lore, thanks for watching!

They are fan translated online

Basically for real life there is no being directly named Satan, Satan is a title meaning adversary. Which is why Lucifer is commonly called and believed to be Satan. (which is correct as he does count as a adversary but not in the way most people think) In SMT though Satatn is a unique character loosely based on all the holders of the title, with a focus on testing man and judging sin.

From your handle name, I assume here you are a muslim (I apologize if otherwise). Based on the Abrahamic religions and lore, Satan is simply a representation or the manifestation of evil in human and djinns in the form of deeds. It also refers to evil djinns/spirits and lesser demons whose roles are to led believers astray from God. Lucifer on the other hand, while shares the same lore with Azazel in regards of fallen angel, is actually a byproduct of mistranslations of the bibles. For the context of this video, I think you should stick to Tony's explanation and your previous knowledge about him to avoid more confusion. SMT took Lucifer's lore mostly from Sumerian and Canaanite's folklore, Helel being a Babylonian king who refers himself as a god (similar to those Egyptian pharoahs, Babylonian kings considered themselves as gods too). Lucifer simply means "Morning Star", which is the planet Venus.

@@shinyanakagawa8241 feels odd, especially considering how faithful I actually am, but yeah you're right about me being Muslim, lol hm, that's a fair explanation, thanks

@@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas I just read stuff a lot, I guess. From there you'd know there are lots of inconsistencies and similarities on these folklores, myths and legends, and whether or not they are aligned with the religion inscriptions.

@@shinyanakagawa8241 that's just the way of life and Megami Tensei

I know you're talking about Metatron, but I find it funny to imagine a Transformer leading the seraphim lmao

@@liamkqn Lol, I pictured Megatron when I read that as well.

Kinda Lucifer for certain is the highest ranked angel, though Metatron doesn't actually exist and is only found in non canon texts (as in biblical canon not continuity) and Enoch (Metatron's original and human name) is instead implied to be one of the two witnesses in Revelations.

​@@TheSwordsman100>>doesn't actually exist Ok

@@enoyna1001 Take your fedora elsewhere, not only will it find no purchase, no one appreciates your derailing antics.

That demon will potentially be covered on a later video

Same demon, Persona games for whatever reason tried to give them different names, but both are Lucifer. The Angel form is just more of a disguise, while his demonic form is his true power