Who Is Galadriel?
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Timestamps:
Intro - 0:00
Lady of Lorien (Galadriel in LotR) - 1:33
An Elf-queen Emerges (Early Drafts and Silmarillion writings) - 5:58
Controversy, Confusion, and Celeborn (Unfinshed Tales and Late Writings) - 9:33
Unstained Victim or Repentant Rebel? - 19:18
Final Thoughts - 25:38
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@Valdagast Жыл бұрын
Maybe the true Galadriel is the one Tolkien made up along the way.
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
This guy gets it 🤣
@tabby_cat Жыл бұрын
**wipes tear from eye**
@arc7375 Жыл бұрын
Such poetry - such prose. I salute thee.
@TheBrothersArda Жыл бұрын
Well there goes my idea for a response video to this one! You good sir are a sage worthy of Gandalf himself.
@ishmaelforester9825 Жыл бұрын
The artistic justifies itself. The aesthetic and imagination has its own rules, on its own terms, even if it's like Hobbit lore, 'an obscure matter,' as Gandalf says. Tolkien understood this from the ancients, if not his influences in English.
@AnimeSquirrel 11 ай бұрын
The fact that, by her magic alone, the forest she lived in thrived and began to die when she left shows just how pwerful she is. Its not a direct power of force. Its something more, something greater. She doesnt need to fight, and thats power.
@angelalewis3645 4 ай бұрын
Ooooh. Well said.
@BernddasBrotB7 Жыл бұрын
I do find the idea of Sauron inciting what is effectively a worker's revolution in Hollin hilarious, if only because it lends a new angle to the whole fanon association of the Feanoreans with red. The Noldorin worker must seize the means of naval transportation! :p
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
🕊️🥥'Strange Sindar hiding in caves distributing cursed swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the Brotherhood of Jewelsmiths, not some farcical Telerin ceremony!'🥥🕊️
@BernddasBrotB7 Жыл бұрын
@@GirlNextGondor "The Naugrim were right to dethrone such blood sucking parasites, who would deny Quendi the right to their beloved mother tongue and withhold the fruits of artistry from the proletariat, hiding them away in those dank holes. Reactionary cowards may have struck down the freedom-loving champions of Nogrod, but we shan't forget our martyred comrades! Cuio i querë anann! Cuio i Celebrimbor anann!" - Probably someone a bit too excited by it all
@john-er6or 11 ай бұрын
@@GirlNextGondor “You can’t become King just because some cave-dwelling tart throws a sword at you.” 😂😂😂
@themightypen1530 Жыл бұрын
Another banger. My favorite part was the complete and total absence of any reference to The Show That Must Not be Named.
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
Thank God for Writers' Guild strikes. 👍
@angelalewis3645 4 ай бұрын
Hallelujah for both!
@dominushydra Жыл бұрын
I wish we could have gotten more insight into the relationship between Luthien and Galadriel. There is a dynamic there that is fascinating for me to imagine. Melian's daughter and her pupil. Would there be a form of sisterly competition between them? Whas it Mean Girls style? Did she tell Luthien "Eww why you slumming with a mortal?"
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Jokes aside it would be very thematically appropriate for Galadriel to warn Luthien off mortal marriage the same way Finrod seems to have opposed Aegnor and Andreth getting together. Later Finrod helps Andreth's grandnephew in his quest to marry an elf, and Ages later Galadriel not only allows but encourages her granddaughter's betrothal to Aragorn.
@Makkaru112 10 ай бұрын
Doubt Galadriel viewed humans like that. Her brother Finrod discovered them and befriended them. She was just as friendly with dwarves as her brother was too.
@MoragTong 8 ай бұрын
atrabeth finrod ah andreth is so fckin awesome
@jeffreysommer3292 Жыл бұрын
I have always had a fascination with her, and I think Cate Blanchett did a marvelous job playing Galadriel in the movies. I won't insult her by comparing her to the psychopath in RoP...
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
There is definitely a lot more to Galadriel's character and story than we get to see in LotR (book or movie). I felt like a lot of those interesting elements that could have been explored were either overlooked or over-simplified.
@aserta Жыл бұрын
RoP, the faster we bury that into pink soil, and forget about it... the better.
@jeffreysommer3292 Жыл бұрын
@@aserta "Pink soil"??
@Archgeek0 Жыл бұрын
@@aserta Pink... how much feldspar are you talking about there? Something like the red clays of Oklahoma?
@gabrielblanchard3921 Жыл бұрын
When I heard the Peej movies were being made at all, literally my _first_ thought was "I hope they get Cate Blanchett to play Galadriel." This is partly because I think she has a stately kind of beauty that suits the character extremely well (and, as a minor appearance-related point, she apparently always wanted to have pointy Elven ears!), and partly because she has, or can command, an unusually deep voice, something Galadriel is noted as having; but also she's just such a talented actress. I can't think of many people who could convincingly play both an immortal Elven queen capable of striving magically with a demonic demigod who's literally more ancient _than the world_ , and also a bored suburban housewife who decides to become a polyamorous bank robber in slightly less than an afternoon (I'd forgotten that _Bandits_ came out the same year as _Fellowship_ until I looked it up just now). Reworking a line from an episode of _Modern Family_ (if anyone still remembers that show), I'm of the opinion that Cate Blanchett could play Batman and it would be the right choice. Some months later, I overheard someone say they thought she was not a good choice for the role 🤨 because she "wasn't pretty enough" 🤬. I very nearly had my own Gimli-in-Edoras moment just then.
@jdspencer60 Жыл бұрын
She's one of the characters that Tolkien went back and forth about the most. She's my favorite character but her history is a mesh of different ideas and iterations
@istari0 Жыл бұрын
I think the statement that Celeborn and Galadriel were the Lord and Lady of the Elves of Eriador could still mean they were subordinate to Gil-Galad as High King. My interpretation of what Galadriel said to Frodo after she turned down the One Ring was that she could have gone back long ago but chose to stay for various reasons, some good, some bad. When she rejected the One (which I think was a near thing), she finally realized that when the War of the Ring was over, it would be time for her to return to Valinor. The multiple and often conflicting story lines for Galadriel truly do allow for an extraordinarily wide variety of head canon.
@joannemoore3976 Жыл бұрын
As usual Sam explains it the best 🙂 I love that beautiful, simple, paradoxical description he gives to Faramir. She seems emblematic of Tolkien's sense of receiving the story and characters as 'given things' that he then needs to find out about.
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
I was getting that impression too as I researched! I always think it's really neat when an event or character's significance 'in-universe' parallels their significance to the author and the author's creative process/experience. The tension between her unplanned 'appearance' and Tolkien's later, more consciously-undertaken work building up a rational framework around her is part of what makes her frustrating but also compelling.
@HammerdownProtocol Жыл бұрын
For me, Galadriel is a link to the awe inspiring, "Elder days before the fall of mighty kings in Nargothrond and Gondolin," of song. A link, stronger by far, than even older beings, like Bombadil or Treebeard. She also exemplifies that ineffable mystery at the heart of the legendarium, far more than any other character (in The Lord of the Rings, at least). Great analysis, as always, Lexi.
@Scrub_Jake Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! “Extra canonical Galadriel factoids” is my new prog-rock band name now 😂
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
😂
@IbexWatcher Жыл бұрын
“And it will afford me some comfort as I wander to think that you pulled down your own house when you destroyed mine. And now, what ship will bear you back across so wide a sea?' [Saruman] mocked. 'It will be a grey ship, and full of ghosts.' He laughed, but his voice was cracked and hideous.” I always found this line interesting because Saruman is directly referencing Galadriel’s song “I sang of leaves …” implying that she’s had these misgivings about her ability to go home to Valinor or for a long time, and that at least the (formerly) Wise are aware of her plight
@beregond. Жыл бұрын
Tolkien published an important paragraph about Galadriel in _The Road Goes Ever On_ (1967), which includes: "At the overthrow of Morgoth at the end of the First Age a ban was set upon her return, and she had replied proudly that she had no wish to do so. She passed over the mountains of Eredluin with her husband Celeborn (one of the Sindar) and went to Eregion." ((Yes, in the first sentence "to do so" lacks an antecedent.))
@JerryBanks572 Жыл бұрын
A mortal arrives in Faerie bearing a terrible gift. The gift of choice. Who are you Galadriel? No more wishing and wondering the Elf Queen must decide.
@angelalewis3645 4 ай бұрын
This resonates. Wow!
@muddlewait8844 Жыл бұрын
I like to see Galadriel as playing the very long game: gradually building allies and trust, learning the most important lore and skills available under Melian, and finally acquiring a domain through diplomacy when one presented itself, but largely waiting on the sidelines for the few greater powers to burn themselves out before really asserting herself. It worked: all her patience and effort brought all the power she could want right to her, but by that time, she knew better than to accept it. I like to think that what she really wanted was to prove that she could have done it, that she was at least the equal of any of the mighty lords that had gone before her, all the more so because she was too wise to actually claim that power. Moreover, I like to think that she proved that what my daughter has called Galadriel’s “girl s__t” approach is as or more effective than any warlord’s path to power.
@MasterGhostf 6 ай бұрын
Galadriel was not in the line of succession especially since her father was in Aman, there were more viable claimants to any throne in Beleriend. Since there is a patriarchal and royal attitude to family blood lines, ie only Aragon could be crowned king of Gondor; Galadriel would probably not be capable of gaining a realm through inheritance. I think she did it this way because she had no other choice. There was no time to assert her claim on any throne; with the constant wars with Morgoth; the great rulers of Fingolfin, Feanor (and his sons), Fingon, Gil Galad, and etc. She was not in line to receive any power, and would she even want that? To inherit a kingdom in the middle of a war with a valar? She is proud, confident, and originally in the beginning headstrong and foolish; but I don't think she was that foolish or arrogant. She saw what Feanor did and tried to learn from his lesson. The only time she could assert her authority was when the other great elves had vanished, and there were the silvan and sindar who needed guidance. She was able to use her charm, power, and wisdom and took over the disorganized elven Sindar and Silvan survivors. Lothlorien was never as great as when Lindon was in its glory, or the Elven realms of Beleriend, but it was one of the last elven realms in Middle Earth and with all that glory and power it entailed. She saw what war and power had brought her family and was never in the position to take it. If she had the opportunity to rule a realm early on, I think she would have taken it; but she most likely would have ended up dead just like her family and the other Noldor. She was doomed, but she escaped that doom by not getting any power herself until the ban was lifted, and she was still banned because she still desired power. I agree she was cunning, but only after learning from the mistakes of others; she was lucky in that she was never in a position to take power in the first age.
@angelalewis3645 4 ай бұрын
Muddle Wait, I love your take.
@beatleblev Жыл бұрын
Thanks Lexi! That was one of my favorites! This is what happens when you are editing your work and realize that you have personified a Silmaril, in all its beauty, peril, and power. I find Galadriel to be a great counterpoint to Luthien. Luthien is best when she's on the go. Luthien goes on Twilight adventures with her betrothed and follows him to hell. She then puts the Devil to sleep, steals one of his Quest Items, and makes the gods weep so that she can have a life with her true love. Galadriel is all about defense. She is the Third Age scion of Melian, who guards a warded magical land in defiance of the current Dark Lord. Self imposed or not, Galadriel's continued vigilance and her endorsement of the union of Aragorn and Arwen, fulfills the plan of Eru that the Firstborn equip the Secondborn to inherit Arda, ere the Firstborn leave for their Home.
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Excellent way to look at it! Both very powerful but in different, complementary ways. I'd even extend that lens to comparing Arwen and Eowyn. Obviously Eowyn takes a more active direct role, but Arwen is at least as influential, but in a different way.
@kostaxilikakis5 9 ай бұрын
I think you make a great point and I imagine that, had Luthien not chosen a mortal life, she would have become a great leader of the second and third ages. I think Sauron would have really feared her.
@TarMody Жыл бұрын
When the Second Age entered, there was no other main character who could be described as the ringleader among those who participated in the Noldor's rebellion. Therefore, the fact that a personal ban was placed on Galadriel by the Valar and that this ban was removed in return for Sauron's contribution to the expulsion process (his behavior that could be described as a test, such as helping Frodo and rejecting the One Ring) brings the story to a more coherent level. Subjecting such a test of repentance against rebellion in the desired place of someone (motivated to leave Valinor) to remain in Middle-earth seems to have been part of his purification process. I think that Nenya's change in her character had a big impact on Galadriel's rejection of the One Ring. If Galadriel had never possessed Nenya, she would have been more susceptible to being lured and corrupted by the force, in line with her motivation (one of the main traits of her character) for her departure from Valinor.
@gabrielblanchard3921 Жыл бұрын
"When the Second Age entered, there was no other ... ringleader among ... the Noldor's rebellion" -- not true, or not necessarily anyway! Maglor's disembodied stubble was presumably still floating around
@TarMody Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielblanchard3921 Whether Maglor survives is speculation, but Galadriel is certain. It is better to think in this context.
@johnmooers5594 Жыл бұрын
I have to wonder why Feanor didn’t just get some hair from Galadriel’s hairbrush rather than face repeated rejection.
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Nothing dies in Valinor... not even hair follicles 😂shedding is unheard-of in the Blessed Realm
@Archgeek0 Жыл бұрын
@@GirlNextGondor But shed hairs usually aren't from dying follicles, they're from follicles' natural growth cycle - that's why if left alone hair will usually extrude to a certain length and stop - each hair cuts off, falls out, then restarts. Moreover, wait... how does hair even _happen_ then? It's a big ol' extrusion the connected skeletons of dead cells. (I'm clearly taking this line of reasoning *much* too far. XD)
@NuisanceMan 10 ай бұрын
@@GirlNextGondor You mean, even my dog wouldn't shed there?
@michaelman957 10 ай бұрын
This man is asking the real questions
@cmath6454 8 ай бұрын
Because pride. Taking hair like that is creepy.
@waltonsmith7210 Жыл бұрын
Galadriel in the Shire would be like Galadrielzilla😂
@Nunya_Bidness_53 Жыл бұрын
As far as LOTR goes, I always assumed she was not brought up because Lorien is a hidden kingdom, spoken of only in whispers and legends. It's not like Rivendell which is basically a free hotel for travellers; they generally shoot you if you cross the border. Also one of the Three Rings is hidden there. Frodo is sternly rebuked by Aragorn when he mentions it and her outside of Lorien.
@jacobvardy 6 ай бұрын
Damn. You just made me realise that Galadriel recreated Doriath. Or rather, it was a lesser shadow of Doriath because time can't progress so long as the elves are in Middle Earth.
@mon_moi 2 ай бұрын
@@jacobvardyif you think about it, Galadriel and Thranduil both tried to recreate the glory of Doriath in their respective realms. You could make a case for either of them being more successful in this endeavor, but likely the two of them were present in Doriath at the same time (Thrandy may have been just a kid though when Galadriel showed up) and knew about the impact it had on the rest of the Sindar in Middle Earth
@nikolapavlovicsova5010 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating figure. Tolkien till the end of his life changed her role in elder days and shifted her role and influence in rebellion along side her idea about what she want and did she get some kind of permission to leave Valinor.
@chrisinglis5631 Жыл бұрын
Would the real Galadriel please stand up.
@danielhogan6255 6 ай бұрын
🎶im the elf lady, yes im the elf lady...🎶🤬dammit, ya got me! Well played friend..
@KipIngram 6 ай бұрын
"We have fought the long defeat." That is undoubtedly one of the most hard-hitting lines ever written. It just... says so much. It captures "the Doom of the Elves" completely. It was always their lot to vanish from Middle Earth, by one path or another. I'm very glad Galadriel did so by sailing west rather than "fading" - for her to fade would have been tragic. And the fact that it took her all those thousands of years to be ready to accept her Doom says something about the power of her soul.
@jonp3890 2 ай бұрын
I’ll be 60 this year. First read LOTR when I was 12, back in the Blessed Realm. So to speak. Galadriel was immediately my favorite and has remained so ever since. Anything and everything more I can find out about her is always welcome, so thank you.
@SophiesDriver Жыл бұрын
0:21 I already have something in my eyes, Lexi. Already this video breathtakingly beautiful. Thank you, Lexi
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Confusing backstory aside, no one expresses Elven regret like Galadriel 😥
@joseraulcapablanca8564 Жыл бұрын
Hey GNG, thanks, that was great stuff. I think many are fascinated by the lady of the golden wood. I think in her creation Tolkien intended mystery and long history, to entice the reader, but he like us all became fascinated by her glittering allure. He had to know more and like a fan boy writing his own fiction gave many different characters,justifications and histories too her in that “fan fiction.” As ever your insights are well constructed, succinctly expressed and like the two trees illuminating. I would just like to point out in case you are unaware a fine, piece by other hands and minds inspired by this enigmatic elf. There is a song Galadriel by a seventies British Rock band Barclay James Harvest. There are unsurprisingly many versions of this, the original album version being probably the best. Thank you for what you do.
@valaraukar_595 Жыл бұрын
You just made my lazy Saturday night even better. Thank youuuu!
@arglebargle42 Жыл бұрын
You have a very engaging narration voice and I absolutely adore the depth and detail you bring for Galadriel's various quasincarnations. She has been in my top 3 favorite LOtR characters since long before the movies. Look forward to your future works!
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Wow - - thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it!
@bigsarge2085 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I never did such a deep dive on Galadriel, well done.
@jaytucker7873 Жыл бұрын
Hit that like? No, I shall as one of Amazon disposition bind up my hair as a crown when taking part in athletic feats and smash that like button!
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Celegorm, Aredhel, and Artanis all having a like-button-smashing contest, Celegorm accidentally winning when he falls to last place, loses his temper, and starts smashing things in earnest....
@jaytucker7873 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha oh my gosh you're the best!
@wheatgrowssweet Жыл бұрын
If Aragorn is the Arthur archetype, Galadriel is one part Guinevere and one part Morgan Le Fay.
@EriktheRed2023 Жыл бұрын
Ah, Morgan... Another mighty, mysterious female character that has no shortage of contradictory stories attached to her.
@squaeman_2644 Жыл бұрын
Nah Guinevere cheated with Lancelot, she's more Morgan Le Fay for her mysterious witch of the woods appearance. And Arthur is the the archetype of the King
@wheatgrowssweet Жыл бұрын
@@squaeman_2644 that depends highly on which version of the myth. I only mean that she is a lofty queen who chivalrous knights try to win the favor of.
@mon_moi 2 ай бұрын
Galadriel is like Morgan le Fay except she doesn't get to sail back and forth from the magic fairy island in the West 😭
@nilay4109 Жыл бұрын
On the question of why, if Galadriel was the ruler of Eregion, would she allow Annatar to remain there, and for Celebrimbor to do a coup against her, I think it reminds me a lot of her brother in Nargothrond. Finrod is the King of Nargothrond, and yet the Feanorians are also there, and when Finrod leaves with Beren to fulfill his oath, they do a similar coup to gather power. It makes Celebrimbor a really interesting figure because he denounces his own father in this attempt, but then does the same thing to Galadriel in Eregion if we take that story line.
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
IIRC Celebrimbor's lineage was still somewhat in doubt when the 'coup' story was written, but that would just make it another case of Tolkien accidentally writing himself into thematic depth 😅made particularly poignant by Sauron's involvement in each case; Celebrimbor forcing Galadriel out of her first founded city and into the Hidden Kingdom that will endure longer whereas Finrod's expulsion drove him *back* to his old fortress; Celebrimbor's torment at Sauron's hands acting as a sort of referred payback for his father's treachery (and his continued silence about the location of the 3 in the face of said torment mirroring the fidelity of Finrod &co)... Sauron stripping Finrod of his disguise and Galadriel (possibly) doing the same to Sauron.... it's all very crunchy and savory, no less so for likely being accidental!
@ShaneHill-mu4yi 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree.The Feanorians the Promethean "spirits of fire"were enormously powerful with elvish "magic".Corrupted as they were I think their powers of "seduction"inthe sense of ,just like their father and grandfather before being able to manipulate large groups of people-in other words either with her there Eregion was ripe and ready for their corruption by The Deceiver.
@KipIngram 6 ай бұрын
I think the evolution of Galadriel's personality over the Ages is one of the best parts of the whole story, even though there's not a whole lot of it in literal writing. But it's totally clear that she evolved from a "nobility hungry" (I don't quite want to say "power hungry") young woman into a lady of high wisdom. It's a fantastic journey. Even though I'm not at all 100% happy with Amazon's "Rings of Power," I do think it's shown that young and feisty side of Galadriel quite well.
@Qichar 10 ай бұрын
The way Tolkien writes is the way he wants readers to view his works: as a re-telling of stories written by the people who experienced it themselves. Therefore, it only makes sense that different accounts would paint a different pictures of events and especially the people who participated in them. Galadriel always stood out strongly for me, the way a beautiful woman you see but briefly stands out. You begin to make up stories about her, what she likes, what makes her furrow her brow, what she delights in doing, and maybe even what adventures you might embark upon together. Tolkien himself doesn't seem immune to this kind of speculative reverie, and the way different characters talk about Galadriel reflects this. She is their idealized symbol of all that is beautiful and good remaining in Middle Earth, that which they are willing to fight and sacrifice for.
@carsonianthegreat4672 Жыл бұрын
Galadriel definitely has Marian qualities, likely inspired by Tolkien’s Catholicism
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Tolkien agreed in a letter that there was Marian inspiration behind Galadriel!
@carsonianthegreat4672 Жыл бұрын
@@GirlNextGondor I didn’t know that! That’s so cool
@CarnisianLady Жыл бұрын
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@valleyscharping 9 ай бұрын
The worst aspect of his writing is when his Romanist idolatry seeps into it.
@colinleat8309 Жыл бұрын
It's funny. I sometimes think we can take this TOO seriously, and there are people who do, but Tolkien treated it like it's " Real " history, and asks us to do the same. His writing, Besides it's wonderful amalgamation of existing mythology, also gives us an insight into the mind of a truly brilliant artist/scholar. 🤘😁🖖🇨🇦
@ShaneHill-mu4yi 5 ай бұрын
True indeed.Remember what Tolkien said about those who criticised those of us who loved history and myth true 😢 or false -there are those who just rin but also those who do so througha longing for beauty and truth.
@joshuacooley1417 Жыл бұрын
It is always interesting to see how Tolkien's thoughts on characters and plot points (or 'history') changed over time. It gives hope to me as an aspiring writer to see that he (a genius) struggled to figure things out and to see that some of his ideas were worse than others etc. However, I think there is also something to the work being 'solidified' by publication. In more mystical terms I might even say there is something incarnational about it. Even if the author continues to niggle and tweak and rethink, the published work has, in a certain sense, moved beyond the ethereal realm of the author's thoughts. It has, perhaps, gone from being a monologue in the author's mind, with himself, to being a conversation with other minds. I don't wish to undermine the primary authority of the author's mind over his creation, but I suspect Tolkien would in some sense agree, that a creation, in order to ever achieve the reality the creator desires, must take on it's own life, and in some sense, become distinct from the mind of the creator. PS. perhaps this will be a controversial opinion, but I think Galadriel has some of the worst portrayals in adaptions. I've always hated the over-the-top nonsense that Jackson did with her.
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Ooh, I like that perspective! - and I think Tolkien had some sense of that too, which is contributed to his spending so much time making sure all the details of his invented setting worked together believably, and why he considered the published text 'sacred' in a way even if he later wished he could change parts of it to fit his later conceptions. Aspects of the Jackson-Blanchett Galadriel worked for me in FotR, but in the Hobbit her portrayal started to veer into 'silly,' imo. I also really wish Jacksonian-Lorien was, y'know, a GOLDEN wood 😅
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
I like your take on creation. I think Tolkien would've agreed.👍
@eluthiccgol4715 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Lexi! Great video!
@jarrodcarver9001 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Lexi!
@squashedeyeball Жыл бұрын
Lexi! You are blessing us! I hope you're faring well
@louisebrouillette5580 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another insightful look into the Legendarium. Any day that I can view a Lexi video is a good one!
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it!
@WhenIsItUs 7 ай бұрын
I watch quite a few lore youtubers and you are, by far, the most motivational towards my writing. Thank you so much!
@TolkienLorePodcast Жыл бұрын
Galadriel is the quintessential example of women being beyond the comprehension of men. Even her creator couldn’t figure her out! 🤣 In seriousness though, I think Galadriel is not only an example of how Tolkien explored his own world, but also how over time he started to get more…sentimental for lack of a better word, like how Bill survives but all the ponies in The Hobbit die. Similarly he started turning Galadriel into this paragon, and I suspect it was partially his own Marian devotion at the back of that. But who knows. Galadriel is complicated lol.
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
I hope everything is going well for you and your family.
@densandwitch1251 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Thank you for all your hard work for your videos!
@MusikCassette Жыл бұрын
I would say Galadriel not wanting to go back to Valinor and She not being allowed to, are not nessesary two different things. it might be more like two sides of the same coin
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Agreed! There seem to be 3 possibilities (all suggested at one point or another in the various writings): 1) she was allowed, but chose not to return 2) she wanted to but wasn't allowed 3) she was told she wasn't allowed (or wouldn't be allowed if she refused the chance offered after the war of wrath) and said she didn't care because she didn't want to come back anyway 😂
@johnfelger9134 Жыл бұрын
I disagree. They are entirely different things. Choosing not to return to Valinor is her choice, being banned is not.
@MusikCassette Жыл бұрын
@@johnfelger9134 in Galladriels case, that might be to simplistic.
@johnfelger9134 Жыл бұрын
@@MusikCassette No, it is exactly that simple. It is also important to note that Galadriel could have returned. By the 3rd Age they had all been granted the ability to return. She was choosing to remain, and it is likely she would have chosen to have remain as long as possible. The destruction of the One Ring and the failing of hers is the only reason she sent back.
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
You might be on to something.🤔
@hiawatha.g 7 ай бұрын
This is the most interesting and insightful post I've seen about LOTR, not only from you but from the host of youtubers with LOTR channels. Galadriel captures the essence of the entire legendarium better than any other character, and I think all the ambiguity and mystery around her is a major reason for that. Well done.
@PatrickLongblkwhtrbbt Жыл бұрын
My main complaint with ROP Galadriel is that she's so damn short lol Give that actor a box to stand on or something. Elf tower lady ought to be tall af
@gelatinousjoe7979 10 ай бұрын
Elves in general should seem timeless or ageless because they’re immortal. In RoP they look like 20 year olds.
@kratos1991august Жыл бұрын
Hey mi lady I missed you and your voice ^^ good to see your vids again
@trikyy7238 11 ай бұрын
This is my new fav Tolkien nerd channel.
@55tranquility 2 ай бұрын
Great video - I think Galadriel gives us a great window to understand why many Elves stay in Middle Earth, and choose to stay for as long as they possibly can when they can freely travel to Valinor.
@AdamMichalMarkowski Жыл бұрын
None of that explains why Galadriel looks like a drown, green glowing banshee from time to time 🤣
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
She gets it from her mother's side of the family 😂
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
Well, the Elessar is green.🤔
@iurypadilha 5 ай бұрын
I think Tolkien wrote base Galadriel for the books. And as we know back in his time he received tons of letters, there might have been many questions about Galadriel that made him think and rethink about the character to the point even not long before his passing he was still writing about her.
@shanenolan5625 Жыл бұрын
Thank you lexi . Pleasure as always
@johnkamphaus2093 10 ай бұрын
Lovely essay about this mysterious and beautiful character. Thanks for sharing this with we fellow Tolkien lovers.
@GirlNextGondor 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
@ghyslainabel Жыл бұрын
As I age (I am now in my 40s), I realize that not every aspect of a story needs a backstory. In fact, learning the backstory of some characters removes the magical element, the aura of mystery around them, it reduces them to mondain people. For me, the best version of Galadriel is in the 1978 Lord of the Rings movie.
@joshuapatrick682 6 ай бұрын
3:31 the look on Celeborn's face lol
@TerezatheTeacher Жыл бұрын
Thank you, relaxing and informative as always. I've been seeing a meme that admires Tolkien's world-building while bashing other writers for adding information much later. The author of the meme must know very little about Tolkien. If I've learnt anything from your channel, it's that Tolkien just couldn't stop fiddling with his lore.
@TheBrothersArda Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back Lexi Bros Krynn here (this is my new Tolkien channel/handle), really enjoyed this video. I think that this video is important to remember that Galadriel is crucial as the 'meeting with the goddess' in Campbellian mytho-psychological analysis and that Tolkien leant into this the trouble becomes trying as you said to ingrain her in the previous lore. Personally, I like the idea of her being at Alqualonde, but I think I lean towards her being blood-stained and repentant, so that what we see is what Feanor could have been. That is to say, she was almost as great as him or Fingolfin, but the difference between her and Feanor is that she does achieve redemption, but that it is something that takes up the whole of her life (as it should). So that her character becomes one of the most complex and important in the Legendarium. Much as say Obi-Wan Kenobi is in SW, where he is a character repenting for having been a poor father, and failed his adoptive son, only to then repent of having given up on the boy he loved so much after said boy is restored to the Light. My point is that, in some ways the best way to appreciate her arc is to read all of the early drafts of Galadriel, from the First & Second Ages and to then read the Lord of the Rings. Anyways, really looking forward to your next video, and if ever you want to discuss Sauron, Galadriel or the History of Numenor there's always an open invitation (be it in livestream or podcast form) and do hope you update your channel soon with another video. Yours, Tolkien Lore & Red Book are my favourites for this sort of deep-dive.
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
If you like Lexi's content, you will like Steven's (of The Red Book), though both these Silmarili of the Tolkien KZfaq community have not been producing much content.😢
@TheBrothersArda Жыл бұрын
@@Enerdhil Am quite familier with both, Steven's a friend and Lexi and I have done a stream together X) and yes they and TolkienLore are the three Silmarils of the Fellowship of us Tolkien-tubers.
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
@@TheBrothersArda Exactly. I think you and your brother are amazing but I have no background in classical mythology, so whenever you guys make a reference to mythology, I have no idea what you are talking about. Still, I DO get a lot from the Tolkien content you guys upload on KZfaq. I think it is important for me to know about ancient mythology to get a better understanding of what Tolkien was trying to do for his own beloved country, but I am way too old to delve into such a time-demanding subject. If you guys decided to start a content series called Mythology 101 or Mythology for Dummies, I would definitely watch the very one and take notes.😁👍
@TheBrothersArda Жыл бұрын
@@Enerdhil Hmm, we've been talking about doing a folklore series maybe a Mythologie/Folklore series is in order I'll pitch the idea to Dan thanks for the suggestion my friend!
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
@@TheBrothersArda In any case, I will keep watching your wonderful Tolkien lore videos. Thanks for your hard work and dedication.😁👍
@Luciana_McC_99 Жыл бұрын
This was really good. Thank you for the great content, best wishes to you and yours.
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed it 😁
@Luciana_McC_99 Жыл бұрын
@@GirlNextGondor you're most welcome.
@mjlamey1066 Жыл бұрын
Mon Dieu! Mon amour! Réveillez-vous! Un autre video de GirlNextGondor!
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Wach auf, Baby!
@dalenlewin Жыл бұрын
Whatever we choose, we will all agree that rings of power never happened.
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
The writers' strike may spare us of Season Two.🤞
@skateboardist1686 Жыл бұрын
The art you show, it is superior to any other shows art I’ve seen yet. Very good! Show me more at once!
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
I'd advise checking the artist links 😂most of them have multiple Tolkien-themed pieces in their portfolios and that way you don't have to wait around for me to put them into a video!
@animisttoo3890 Жыл бұрын
One way to get more insight into Galadriel is from "The Stairway to Heaven" by Led Zeppelin, and to consider both "The Faerie Queen" and Morganan the Fey. Tolkien found himself involved with these themes because of his connection to the land, so his writings on it were as various and nebulous as the histories of that Great Lady herself among historical peoples.
@maxpiemuse9584 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@mandos1139 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting video, too me her contradictory and mysterious past is very present in the different ways that fans seem to interpret her story. In one fanfiction I’ve read she is very close to Feanor until the Kinslaying after which she decides to go to Beleriand to subtly oppose him. In another fanfiction she and Celeborn meet and fall in love in Valinor, and she is very strongly opposed to Feanor from the get go. Anyhow the varied ways in which her story and character was interpreted always confused me, until this video, so thank you for that.
@claudspadafora1175 5 ай бұрын
this is the best video on this topic out there, tbh
@EriktheRed2023 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't find an axe, so I used my mouse to hit the like button. I hope it will suffice.
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Improvisation is often necessary when defending the honor of elf-ladies 😂 It more than suffices; thank you!
@corvid... Жыл бұрын
Another great video, I like your takes on the characters, always interesting and thought provoking
@joshuapatrick682 6 ай бұрын
22:07 okay so the ship literally dumped everyone except Gandalf off at Eressea and dropped him off at Alqualonde before Cirdan turned around and went back one last time to wait for Sam and Celeborn? Except Elrond who was born in middle-Earth and never took part in the Kingslaying? and we know her brother Finrod eventually got to go back to Valinor once his short stay in the halls of Mandos was over after dying in the pit of Tol-in-Gaurhoth because the Silmarillion explicitly states he's hanging out with his dad Finarfin. This is maddening!!!! Honestly exile on a small island within site of your estranged family and friends has to be a punishment worse than exile in middle-Earth right?
@robinriebsomer4607 Жыл бұрын
It is highly significant that she gives 3 strands of hair to Gimli, It is not only an act of reconciliation with someone from the race of the dwares, it is also highly significant because she refused to give strands of her hair to her cousin Feanor who wanted them to help him create the Silmarils. Her mother's name was Earwen, a member of the Teleri or if you will the Solisimpi. As a feminist, I think it's important to name her mother. This is a wonderfully detailed documentary on the different attempts Tolkien made to give Galadriel an engaging back story. I find that giving her a redemptive arc is much more consistent with his legendarium. She grows from wanting to wield power over others to using power to empower others. I have also read that his characterization of Galadriel was inspired by none other than Mother Mary. I think it would be interesting to contrast Galadriel's character with that of Eowyn.
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
I think Ëowyn and Faramir's love story gives us a glimpse of the possible love story between Galadriel and Celeborn. I think Galadriel's character was fundamentally transformed by her love for Celeborn as Ëowyn's was for Faramir. That is why I hate the Amazon version of her.
@EvilSandwich Жыл бұрын
I always interpreted the discrepancy of "I passed over the mountains." and Celeborn being from Doriath and likely meeting galadriel there this way. They likely did meet, fall in love, and get married in Doriath but the war of wrath was basically a gigantic 40-year long dumpster fire and it's not inconceivable that they got separated in the chaos and found each other much later.
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the most plausible explanations. While Celeborn's possible origins are many and varied, the balance *seems* to come down on the side of 'Doriathrin noble.'
@EvilSandwich Жыл бұрын
@@GirlNextGondorThere's also such a potential story there. Two immortal lost loves trying to find each other after a continent exploded.
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
They supposedly crossed over the mountains before the Nirnaeth Arnoediad.
@louisvictor3473 Жыл бұрын
If I ever get a daughter, there will be.
@MintyScales Жыл бұрын
oh snap *looks at watch* its squad time!
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
🤣
@allisonkreutzberg6079 Жыл бұрын
Loved this! A wonderful summary of scattered information. Not easy to do 💕
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
It was not my first journey into the tangly fens of 'History of Galadriel and Celeborn'... but certainly one of the more memorable ones 😬 Glad you enjoyed it!
@Dunybrook 6 күн бұрын
I think people underestimate how good Sauron was at deceiving people since he could apparently fool Galadriel (abeit when she was much younger).
@TheMarauderOfficial Жыл бұрын
excellent video
@danielhogan6255 6 ай бұрын
Galadriel: A character you cant fully understand or know, but your happy you got to meet.. Even if it was only for a little while.. Wont lie i like the mystery about her. And i also love gandalfs complement to her at the white council. Considering her feelings of longing for valinor, and the elves state of diminishing from arda... It was very sweet thing he said. Very kind. (im basing this on movies, feel free to correct me if my info's off about the council thing)
@waltonsmith7210 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, this question has vexed me more than any other as I try to reconcile whats written in LOTR with everything else. I prefer the versions where she was more corrupted in the beginning. It seems like makes her arc more powerful and justifies her personal Ban thats made such a big deal of. I also like the idea of the elves of Eregion rebelling because we need more elven coups, not less.
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
Yes please to further Elven coups, and to Troubled Past Gally 😁
@waltonsmith7210 Жыл бұрын
Unless we're to believe the behavior pf ther sons of Feanor in Nargothrond was a completely unique and freakish example of elven political intrigue. I think it makes sense that more of the Noldor would be arrogant enough to try their hand at seizing power, especially Noldor obsessed with shady craftsmanship.@@GirlNextGondor
@KipIngram 6 ай бұрын
She was there - in the story - the whole time. Tolkien just hadn't discovered her yet. I think it's a clear example of a writer's story taking on a life of its own.
@mrmeowmeow710 Жыл бұрын
another great story by a master story teller👍👍
@Enerdhil Жыл бұрын
Do you mean Tolkien or Lexi?😅
@mrmeowmeow710 Жыл бұрын
Lexi@@Enerdhil
@oudugan8676 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, as always.
@penultimateh766 Жыл бұрын
Certainly she must be YOU, must she not?
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
"Pack up the Mirror, Celly, they're onto us again...."
@anchuisneoir3973 Жыл бұрын
Come on now, we all know Gimli melted Galadriel's heart.
@joshuapatrick682 6 ай бұрын
You know I just now thought of the reality that the Ringbearers, Gimli and Legolas all sailed West but where did they eventually end up? Did they make it to Valinor or when they got to Tol Eressea Gandalf kicked them all off the boat while he got to finish the journey?
@Strideo1 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you for all the great work! I love your essays and all the exploration of Tolkien's different thoughts throughout the evolution of his writing. This is so well researched. 👍
@27jayway-yc9nl Жыл бұрын
This is another great video, thank you for bringing up so many interesting lesser known points.
@angelalewis3645 4 ай бұрын
Such a good take on Galadriel. FAR better than all the rest in the LotR YT community.
@ranniemanangan5371 Жыл бұрын
For me Galadriel is Tolkien's version of Aslan from the Narnia series... A physical representation of a divine being....
@curtisramone Жыл бұрын
keep on keeping on
@ShaneHill-mu4yi 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely beautiful as always.I rather like the 😢fact that we have different "traditions" with her.Such is history.I like and prefer the middle tradition where she has an impact that is enormous but not too ridiculous.The last tradition for me where she remains "unstained" by the fall of the Noldor is "obviously" a later-probably the latest account from some time late in the fourth age when myth had become far mpre a part of the lore where the memory of Galadriel had become far more infused with other legends.Hence her purity and almost goddess like stature.For me this last Galadriel looses all the character traits which make her s-o interesting-her desire to rule her own realm and refusal to return into the west The last portrait of her also robs her actions with Frodo and the Ring of any real moral choice.The second account I postulate is the one closest to the truth as😮 it were.Thank you again Girl from Gondor for many hours of delight in my favourite world.
@KipIngram 6 ай бұрын
I've always found the "personal" ban on Galadriel curious. After all, she didn't actually participate in the Kinslaying, and in fact she tried to stop it, fighting on the side of the Teleri. Of course, we don't see everything about her life, but that does seem like the sort of big deal we ought to have had explained to us more clearly. I certainly think that her resistance of the temptation of the One Ring, even when it was outright offered to her and was just a few feet from her, had significance enough to revoke any ban in the eyes of the Valar. It took thousands of years, but she finally overcame her shortcomings. She WANTED it - she really, really wanted it. But she recognized the wrongness of taking it.
@AMRosa10 10 ай бұрын
I guess when someone is 8,372 years old, they have time to try out different strategies and personas, adapt, and mature. It isn't surprising that there are many versions of Galadriel, if one takes only small snapshots of time to try to define a life long-lived. Unlike Christopher Tolkien, who sees these "severe inconsistencies" as problems, maybe we should look upon those inconsistencies as actually being full of hope, in that they show that one can remake themselves and redeem themselves if they reflect on their lessons learned and, from those mistakes, attain wisdom, understanding, and compassion.
@jamth118 Жыл бұрын
Great video keep up the good work
@joshuapatrick682 6 ай бұрын
I am a massive fan of Tolkien but I find it counter to the rules of his world that the Three Elven Rings that were not made by Sauron or with his knowledge would cease to function after his defeat. The fact that they are worn by their Bearers while he exists and can still dominate the Nine despite not having the One is further proof of that line of thought. I know it fits the narrative, but I find it the only unfortunate instance of a blatant contrivance for the sake of narrative that I cannot overlook.
@jeffsnyder7290 Жыл бұрын
This afternoon I went to gaze upon a 6 story tall, 15 ton Rubber Duck in the town of Crisfield. MD. It was hot & sticky. Got home, fed the cats, and watched your video. Thanks. It beats a giant Rubber Ducky any day. As for Galadriel - an evil woodland sorceress, a gentle & loving fairy godmother, a wise & powerful elf queen. She is all that & a lot of mystery.
@Limubi1 8 ай бұрын
You make something I love more loveable - thank you xx
@davekat Жыл бұрын
I like your videos on LOTR lore and takes on characters. I actually learned some stuff I didn't know regarding Eowyn and Merry. I have to say that lately I have a great sorrow regarding LOTR though. When I read through the comments on any LOTR content, anywhere from half to two thirds of the comments are hate posting on Rings of Power. I despise being on the sidelines watching people be reactionary about it. It's almost a year later and people cannot help themselves but keep going. And it's ruining LOTR for me. I liked both the books, PJ trilogy and RoP. No take is automatically true or false because this is all escapist fantasy. I want to go to Middle-Earth to get away from the troubles of the modern day, but I don't want to be part of the fandom anymore if it means people gate keeping my escapist fantasy or stepping in someone's hate post at least once per day. The fighting just isn't worth it.
@chrisp.9380 Жыл бұрын
New vid hype!
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
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@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
Note that the Elessar tale seems to predate 'Concerning'. It has Finrod for Finarfin, which CT changed to avoid confusion. Celebrimbor is the Celebrimbor of Gondolin variant, rather than the Celebrimbor of Feanorean, descent as he is made in the mid 1960's revision to LotR. (Reconciliation mode): 'diminish and go into the West', alternatively could imply 'fade' and then her fea goes into the West. It is also interesting to note that in the various 'ageing' schemes, Tolkien is consistent in asserting Galadriel to be 'young' ('20' in 'growth-years') at the time of the darkening of Valinor and subsequent Exile. The later 'growth-rates' to maturity (1 : 1, 3 : 1 and even the 12 : 1) make some of 'philosophical rather than historical' writing about her in Shibboleth incongruent.
@GirlNextGondor Жыл бұрын
All good points! My big takeaway from the aging schemes was that as Tolkien made rebellion-era Galadriel young enough to, eg, allow her to have Celebrian in the early Second Age, Celeborn got comparatively older, leaving us with an early-20s-equivalent Galadriel falling for a 40something Celeborn as one possible scenario (that is, if I'm remembering it right). I can't help but think of this when I read Galadriel's assertion (often disputed by readers) that Celeborn is wise. Maybe she just initially mistook his greater *maturity* for wisdom, and the impression stuck 😂
@Tar-Elenion Жыл бұрын
@@GirlNextGondor In that particular variant, Galadriel was '28' when she married Celeborn, who was '45'. In that variant Celeborn was a generation up from her. In the (later) variant where he is a grandson of Elmo (rather than son), while Tolkien does not give an age, I would suspect Celeborn would be the equivalent of not more than 35 (still older, as making the husband older than the wife is another consistent theme).
@Jeffrey_Tyler Жыл бұрын
This is the best Tolkien channel on YT. It's the lore behind the lore.
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