Who is Nakomi? REVEALED!! - A Wheel of Time Deep Dive into the Metaphysics

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Who is Nakomi? REVEALED!! - A Wheel of Time Deep Dive into the Metaphysics

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Nakomi's identity was revealed in "Origins of The Wheel of Time"...or was it? Does the revealed answer work within what we know about Jordan's World? Watch and find out! Join us for the geekiest kind of Livestream where we will get down and dirty with Wheel of Time Metaphysics with those who love this level of geekery the most.
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@TheDustyWheel Жыл бұрын

Starts at 2:31

@cameronpetie8318 Жыл бұрын

I first started reading these books in the early 90s and I just tuned in to this to have the answer revealed. It's another great moment from this monumental series. It continues to deliver golden nuggets despite being finished and I'm sure we'll be discussing more theories and hypotheses for decades to come.

@philipgriessel5315 Жыл бұрын

Bella was the vessel for the creator...

@shauntempley9757 Жыл бұрын

Nakomi is like Colonel Kira in DS9. She mantled a Prophet for a time, at the same time that Jake mantled a Pah wraith. They were not avatars, they were vessels.

@VarkaThrin Жыл бұрын

To me the parallel to Shaidar Haran (SH) that is perhaps strongest is that SH could prevent channelers from touching the True Source. This implied access to a source of power... perhaps the True Power, although that was never stated. Nakomi clearly has such an option, without us knowing whether that means the True Power is from the Dark One, or just from "outside the wheel", and therefore can be granted by the Creator as well... and to me the eventual link to Rand and the pipe becomes fairly obvious then. Any of the 'vessels' over time, like Rand, or those of the Jenn Aiel, are being granted access to this Power, along with some fragment of inspiration from the Creator which accounts for supernatural knowledge.

@anaiyasgarden Жыл бұрын

Ahhhh. I'm just getting caught up on missed streams. I LOVE watching you and Chris argue metaphysics. Please bring Chris back more often to debate metaphysics with you!!!!

@TheDustyWheel Жыл бұрын

Chris is the best!

@fuzzybraindice725 Жыл бұрын

The first time I've ever had to avoid a Dusty Wheel livestream because of spoilers 😭 Fortunately I have now FINALLY got my hands on Origins and can watch this!

@Nuadu-Fireheart Жыл бұрын

Not the creator, but part of the creator sounds like an angel

@danielle.hamilton Жыл бұрын

Great show

@Playaplaya18 Жыл бұрын

I love how this isn't about the answer we've been asking for, but more about the questions and potential answers unearthed by that answer.

@albri6001 Жыл бұрын

So Rand turned into a Jenn Aiel in the end and lit his pipe with those powers

@methany8788 Жыл бұрын

I'm only half an hour in, but there are already a few questions I want an answer for: - to what degree is the Creator inhabiting this vessel? Is he in full control? Is he simply granting her some knowledge and perhaps power? (Edit: in other words: was her soul truly taken? Was her free will taken? Or was it more like "here's some information and this is what I need you to accomplish. Go!" Because that wouldn't really be different from many other things the Creator has put into his creation) - Brandon mentioned building Nakomi's backstory based on some more notes. I wonder what those were? - I disagree about the entire second Rhuidean trip being proven Brandon's idea. It certainly is possible, but it is also possible that it was in the notes and Brandon used Nakomi to lead into the part that was specified in RJ's notes? I would love to know. (Edit: got an answer for that one. Thanks, @Drew McCaffrey)

@dcaf94 Жыл бұрын

Re: the second Rhuidean trip, Brandon has openly spoken about it being his idea. He pitched the idea to Team Jordan, they were reluctant to include it, and then they finally acquiesced after reading his draft for it.

@methany8788 Жыл бұрын

@@dcaf94 oooh, that's one of my questions answered, then. Thanks

@csarmii Жыл бұрын

@@dcaf94 I wish they didn't, it's a bad sequence that doesn't work at all (the whole future plot is just nonsense). Good to know it was full Brandon so I can just disregard it entirely.

@drakedecker4874 Жыл бұрын

Before watching this video.. I place my bet that she is Rand's paternal grandmother. Master of TLRR.

@tricksyhobbitses1695 Жыл бұрын

Ooooh I like that one. Sounds way better than an avatar for creator

@christianefiorito3204 9 ай бұрын

I feel this as a little excursion into Catholic metaphysics. Like a little nod to Tolkien. Jesus is gods lamb and Rand is the sheep herder who dies and relives for the salvation of mankind from evil. So Nakomi is the female Side, a kind of Madonna figure.

@ramspencer5492 Жыл бұрын

I don't think that the creator can't take part. I think that's a human concept in the series. The Aes Sedai we're wrong about so many other things. The wise ones we're wrong about entering the flesh in TAR In itself was evil. I don't think it's that the creator built in multiple redundancies.... I think that each of those influences by the Creator on the patterned came into being for the creator to add more balance. But they were the creators influence. I also think if the creator did say I will not interfere myself.... The thought would have been in a particular context. A context of not choosing the results or making the outcome certain. The amount of imposed balance to the pattern added from the creator is pretty minimal.

@Connor_Crain Жыл бұрын

I like that explanation, if Rand=Jesus ; Nakomi=Prophet, you could also call shidar’haran a prophet of the dark one, but the dark one removes free will, and does a mirdral have a soul or free will anyway?

@shauntempley9757 Жыл бұрын

Considering they were born naturally, then they must have souls. They do not have free will, as much as the Dark One dominates their actions.

@zedwolf5556 Жыл бұрын

Something I would love to have, and would pay well for, is a highly detailed annotated version of the last 3 books. Books printed in multiple text colours based on the text source. A colour for RJ verbatim, a colour for RJ fairly specific outline written by BS, a colour for RJ said this should happen and BS wrote that, and a colour for BS totally pulled this out of his backside because he wanted to. And extensive notes on why something was written the way it was.