THIS AGED INCREDIBLY WELL

Actually, the opening of Rey's theme sounds a bit like that of the Emperor...

You nailed it. Rey's signifier theme is also a leitmotif of Palpatine's theme.

JW is a genius tbh imo

Rey is the daughter of Ashara Dayne and Benjen Stark.

You forgot the most obvious connection to the Emperor's motif! I thought it was the most clear... The main repeating motif in Rey's theme. Think about it. I don't have a video on hand haha

Rey is literally everyone in terms of the soundtrack. Makes sense if you have seen The Rise of Skywalker.

Very interesting analysis! I love these kinds of videos and it's not far-fetched when you notice Williams has done this before, dating back to the Phantom Menace with the theme of the Emperor in the end credits track sung by choirs and Anakin's theme having hints of the Imperial March in it. Great video

Awesome analysis... now if you take Rey's Theme and overlay it with the Force Motif (which is typically connected with Luke), it sounds like they accompany each other. They actually fit together pretty nicely when played at the same time...

You sir, are a genius putting this together. I just thought it was reminiscent of the force theme... didn't think twice about Vaders bit at the end.

What you analised 1. The Force Theme 2. Vader's Theme 3. Yoda's Theme What you Missed: The very first notes of Rey's Theme sound similar to Darth Sidious's Theme.

Great video! Also, if you listen to Rey's Theme at precisely 1:21 (from the album, not this video), those first 3 notes (horn sound) are very evocative of the Imperial March.

Oh boy...

Rey Sidious

I think this sort of analysis... in addition to someone's knowledge of the EU (like my own), you can clearly see that Disney is following the story of Jaina and Jacen very closely although they are mixing it up a bit with the relationships. Han's son is very clearly juxtaposed as Jacen... and the simple use of the name Ben, which was Luke's son in the EU, is something that gives fans (albeit not super obsessive fans like us) something to latch onto from previous films. They can easily remember that Ben was the name Obiwan went by on Tatooine. I wholly expect Rey to be revealed as Luke's daughter... I would be really excited to follow her story if that's the case. I feel it needs to be that way. Although it shouldn't be difficult, I feel just as taken by Rey's beauty and strength as I was by Leia's in the original trilogy.

Rey is Joda's daughter confirmed.

So - here's my theory. The theme that is playing when Rey first meets Luke is not 'Luke's' theme or the theme associated with the light side of the force. It's the theme we first here when Rey is resisting Kylo Ren. I think it represents some sort of combined light/dark force that is very powerful and lies outside the traditional boundaries of light and dark. That's why Rey is so powerful. I think that this combined or 'whole force' first appeared when Luke was teaching Ben Solo. Unable to control the power of it, or stay away from the dark side of it, Luke banished himself knowing someday someone would emerge who was able to bring balance to this more powerful version of the force. That's Rey. He devised a way to be found that only Rey - or someone with her power - could uncover. Now she is there not to be trained by Luke, but to be his salvation and the salvation of the Jedi's. We hear Luke's theme when the light saber appears. That will be the instrument that will allow Luke and Rey to bring focus to this new power. Again, the light saber waiting to be found by the one who could use it. Rey. The force that is 'awakening' is more powerful than the force that is confined to either light or dark. I think were in for quite a ride!

No. It confirms that she "is" the same Force that was within Anakin/Vader. But she is not the Grand Daughter. So the lack of bloodline. There is something even deeper in her. So the things revelated about Rey in the VIII have all the sense.

Even if theory is totally missed, I still love work You just put into this. Awesome play with sound. I really enjoyed watching your clip.

Abrams: john u little snitch

Kudos to your brilliant effort by the way.

That's some brilliant work ! Thanks for it ! I hope you'll be doing more analysis of this kind :) KZfaq needs more musical analysis :P

You make a superlative case for this theory and it was super fun to listen to, also

Someone mentioned to me that Kylo's theme and Rey's theme played together makes a similar tune to the love theme from Attack of the Clones.

Well done! Nothing Jonny does is coincidental. He is such a master at crafting the progressions and then hiding (and revealing) them at critical times!

Rey is Bastila Shan (or a form of her) She uses "Battle Meditation" against Kylo Ren in Episode 7. She will fall to the Dark Side in Episode 8 and 9. Kylo will become Darth Revan in Episode 8, but will feel the Light Side and turn to a Jedi. Kylo will make Bastila Shan see the light. Luke will become evil, taking up his apprentice in Episode 9 (Snoke) which will become Darth Plagueis. A new Jedi Order will be established. Darth Revan and Bastila Shan at the end of Episode 9.

so what we have learned is that ray is everyone

There is a certain irony in that Palpatine’s theme is dark and ominous, fitting his role in the story. And yet, his granddaughter has a theme that’s quite beautiful, and almost sad, pensive. She’s in inverse of her grandfather. He is all powerful, in control of everything (seemingly) and she lives alone scrapping junk to survive.

Even if this is on purpose, it could mean different things. It could imply for example that she has the potential to become a new "Vader" (a forshadowing perhaps?). But I think her theme resembles Yoda's and Luke's theme much more than Vader's (in Luke's case it points in the same direction).

It could also be possible that, since Anakin's now a Force Ghost, it could be a hint of his actual, Force presence around Rey, especially since you mentioned that the motif pops up whenever she was alone or in remembrance of her family.

thank you for this analysis. well done. also important to call our how the finale of TFA weaves both Luke and Rey's themes, calling to each other. (end credits)

Spoilers! So close... so close to figuring it out

Rey is Bens sister 1) that is the explanation why she was able resist him when he tried to break in her mind and why she even as a untrained force user could read his thoughts (being afraid about not being as good as Vader) 2) when she touches Luke's lightsaber she remembered being a little girl on Jakku and a little boy cried and somebody (my bet Solo) says stop it boy ( i watched the movie in german and he uses the word "junge" which means little boy in that context. So they were departet as kids.

The pitch. It surrounds us, it binds us. (Yoda quote)

*IMAGINE BEING THIS ON POINT*

The Force/Rey themes superposition is evident in The Jedi Steps - Finale around 7'30''

After 4 years... almost there, heh? She's SOMEONE'S granddaughter after all...

very intruiging analysis! I dig it!

Nice work man.. hunting big Fish there

I could imagine that ben and rey switch sides during the trilogy.

this is really awesome.

I feel like the Imperial March being in her theme is an indication that she will turn. Maybe we'll get a much darker version of her theme too, and Ben is the Skywalker that will rise

Another one: at the very close, on Mark Hamill's reveal, I was REALLY struck by the music skeletally outlining the Imperial March (G minor to Eb minor). Commented that to a [musically oblivious] friend after the showing who thought I was nuts. But it definitely falls in line with your analysis I think.

I like analysis videos like these.

SPOILERS (With a possible theory spoilers as well) ________________________ ________________________ ________________________ ________________________ ________________________ I am 99% certain that she is Luke's daughter, there is a possibility that she could also be Han and Leia's daughter but I just don't think that's true, but who knows. Anyways here are the things that I picked up that could point to the fact that she is Luke's daughter: - On the poster Rey is holding her staff parallel to Kylo holding his saber. This could either be an indication of them being the 2 main rivals or the fact that they both have Skywalker blood. - She was left on Jakku at a very young age on a desert planet. Anakin was born on Tatooine a desert planet. Luke was taken to Tatooine to be protected from his father and the Empire. Rey, most likely, was left on Jakku to be protected from possibly her cousin Kylo Ren (Who turned against her father and destroyed everything that Luke had built when he was creating a new generation of Jedi) , the Knights of Ren and the remnants of the Empire, now known as the First Order. Rey and Luke have quite a similar story so that is something worth thinking about. - Obvious one, when Rey was in Maz's castle, the Skywalker lightsaber called to HER, not to Finn who used it or anyone else, but her specifically, and the fact that she heard Luke's, Obi-Wan's and Yoda's voices also just further proves that point. - When Rey get's the lightsaber just as she is about to fight Kylo, part of the Skywalker theme plays. I doubt John Williams would have just randomly played the Skywalker theme then without any meaning. - The way Luke looks at Rey at the very end is very interesting, it's really hard to say what the meaning of that ending is but I am just pointing it out for those who have some theories.

When the opening motif of Rey's theme is played backwards, it sounds like the Vader cadence as well.

Interesting. After seeing Ep VII a couple more times when I saw Rey and her fighting style, her survival instincts and her mannerisms I saw Anakin Skywalker (grandfather) in Rey more than I saw in say Luke (possible father). The music/score pieces hinted strongly towards Rey being the grand daughter of Anakin as well. Suppose we will find out soon enough

u forgot to analyze palps

Rey could also be a Clone of Anakin. If you remember, Qui-Gon took a blood sample from Anakin to check midichlorian levels. That sample could have been stored and later used to clone Anakin (double the X chromosome to make a girl instead of a boy)

Great video! But it besides her being possibly related to vader, this could also mean that she might end up going to the dark side. Which I'd prefer to be honest - her being related to Luke/Kylo would be a pretty unspectacular way to go imho^^;

Very well done. I think the conclusion is flawed now, but the work you have put in is awesome.

The force theme is commonly equated with old Ben Kenobi's theme. Since I'm hoping that she's related to Obi-Wan I think that the similarities between her theme and the force theme hint at that relationship.

But it's called "The Force Motif" not "Luke's Motif". And there's the theory about Rey being the reincarnated Chosen One (aka not just reincarnated Anakin...bigger than that). In which case this video pointing out the links between "The Force Motif", "Vader Cadence" and "Scavenger/Rey's Motif" could likewise be used to lend some creedence to the idea that she is the new convergence in the Force, like Anakin was...the living embodiment of the Force for this next era, as Anakin was from Episodes 1-6. The theory is here: www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/3x5iqm/tfa_spoilers_theory_about_the_chosen_one_prophecy/ And it's completely captured my imagination. Been adding some ideas to it across KZfaq videos but haven't collected. I'd love to copy and paste and share for anyone curious.

I'm now starting to think she isn't Luke's daughter... rather, she is Luke's "Sister" (if you want to call her that). In some way, shape, or form she is the product of Vader. She could have been created in a lab somewhere and her backstory before Jakku could unfold during eps 8 and 9.. Sure, it's a stretch, but it's interesting. Watching this video and it made me start thinking. It's plausible and would explain a great many things.

I actually heard it too when listening to the sound track. Also in Luke's theme at the end of the movie there's a mysterious sounding intro but you can also hear a piece of Vader's theme in it before it turns into the original Luke's theme! I thought that was cool and could be hinting at Luke's emotional state (more than likely conflicted)

Could she simply be Vader himself ? A reincarnation ? In Star Wars, the Christ is Skywalker. The father, the son, and the holy Force (that has just awakens in Rey?) ?

Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin. Her Character is Vader come to redeem himself, the second coming of the chosen one bringing balance to the force. "I have lived long enough to see the same eyes in different people." Watch the film back with that in mind and see everything fit into place.

I think this adds more to the theory of her being Vader himself. That she was conceived by the force. That she is the chosen one in another form.

congrats, u've convince me !!!

There's has been a disturbance in the force, a disturbance that I have not felt since the presence of Darth Vader...

Not necessarily. He seems to be combining into Rey's theme elements of all the force users' themes from other movies. Yoda's as well as Annakin's (not Vader's) and the all encompassing 'force theme'. Perhaps he was just hinting at Rey's power in the force and kinship to the Skywalkers and other master jedis. Notice that Obi-Wan and Mace Windu don't have themes of their own for us to compare Rey's to.

She is deffinately related to the skywalker family. I think she is Lukes daughter, and her grandfather is Anakin (Vader). Sure this cloning idea is kinda cool too. Maybe vader tried to make a daughter?

Rey's theme is also similar to Bastila Shan's theme from the Knights of the old Republic.

Someone on Tumblr said that Rey's theme is Kylo Ren's theme in reverse. Can anyone prove this?

In essence, she is all of the Jedi.

Actually this seems to add a bit of fuel to the force baby theory. What people forget is that anakin was a "virgin birth" he had no father the force was his father that's why he was special. The force baby theory is basically Rey is another one like anakin a miracle baby made by the force. Making her vader's half sister.

Well that narrows it down lol. We all already know she is either Luke's daughter or Han and Leia's. She is Anakins Granddaughter regardless.

Very interesting. What's missing from the analysis, is the critical point that the force theme is also equally well known and often named Ben kenobi's theme. So if he's mixing vader's theme with kenobi's is it possible she's the granddaughter of both? Perhaps her parents are Luke Skywalker and the daughter of Obi-Wan and an unknown woman (Satine Kryze?).

They called me a mad man

bravo

Wow! Mind blown! lol

She is somehow anakin or vaders manifestation in the galaxy,as the return or RENaissance of the chosen one of the force.But this time around, to do things right and finish the job he was destined to do- Kill the plague that is causing the imbalance. Before,brushing this off as crazy, consider the BIG canon subplot of qui-gon,yoda,kenobi learning apotheosis (transcending mortality as beings of light with the force), and anakin following them later. If apotheosis is canon, why not reverse-apotheosis? Star Wars is basically the most famous retelling of the classic recurring myth of the Chosen one's BIRTH, DEATH (or fall to darkness of hell) and rebirth for redemption.

Interesting observation. I don't see any similarity between Yoda's theme & Rays theme though. Parts of Reys theme sound very much like Jane Eyre score.

what if she is Vader REINCARNATED, a lot of theories are also pointing to that and there are also some similarities of Rey's with the Imperial Theme

Yes!! I watched it again last night and realized that I was hearing Vader in Rey's theme and this is exactly the analysis I was hoping to find to confirm my thoughts. It is, of course, also in Kylo Ren's theme (although there is no concert suite "Ren" theme on the soundtrack) and it was in distinguishing the two that I thought... are they twins/brother and sister? Of course we don't know anything yet but certainly seems to point out that she is related (in addition to other clues).

Interesting analysis. I wish I was better with music so I could do some similar investigation. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the music was also a clue, but I'm wondering if other characters have their own unique themes. These similarities you observe might not indicate "family" but might indicate "force sensitive" or "similarity of outlook/struggles". I'm pretty sure Rey has no connection to Yoda, except in terms of educational lineage. (Yoda taught Luke, Luke will teach Rey.) Or possibly, the themes could indicate which side of the Force guides them, since we have some indication that Rey is primarily light side, but is a little touched by darkness in the scene where she fights Kylo Ren in the snow on Starkiller Base. Your thoughts?

Yes... and Kennedy was shot in a Lincoln.

You should have included JarJar's love theme - it becomes obvious that Rey is Yoda and JarJar's offspring.

I think she is Luke's daughter, the movie was made as stated similar to "the Return of the Jedi" with that of two family members fighting against each other, and her tears at the end of the movie is like that of a daughter reunited with her father because why would she cry to some stranger?

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So... Rey is the lovechild of... Tattooine, Vader, Yoda, Luke and Leia? ... BUT OF COURSE!!! How could we not see this before!! IT'S SO GENIUS!!!

John Williams has said before that he doesn't like to read scripts for the movies he composes scores for. He prefers to watch the film and compose to that, so that he can be surprised by the twists and turns of the storyline and then reflect that surprise into the music he writes. With that attitude, I doubt he knows who Rey is, in terms of her history and family. I think that the similarities between Rey's Theme and the Force Theme (particularly the part of the finale that combines the two) is intended to show similarities between their characters. I don't think this is in the sense of saying 'she is definitely Luke's daughter/a Skywalker'. I think it's open to interpretation. It could be setting her up as a new hero with no blood-ties to the Skywalkers. I don't know...but I definitely don't think John Williams is hiding secret clues in the score.

Wow this might actually be true!

Wouldn't Han know if he had a missing daughter? Hadn't thought about a younger, conflicted Ben Solo hiding his own cousin after killing off the other trainees as he wouldn't be completely in the control of the Dark Side; not fully Kylo Ren, yet. Loss of a daughter could have been exactly what would push Luke into retreat.

Welp. Time for a revisit.

Isn't the first part of Rey's reflective motive the exact same notes of Han Solo and the Princess, except in reverse?

She's her own grandpa.... Whaaaaaat

I've always believed that she is the sibling of Kylo Ren. Han made it very clear he knew who she was. It would make perfect sense.

Ah, leitmotifs. Williams knows how to use them, and doesn't do so without a reason, like all great composers.

They still can pull this off: ???-------------Anakin________Padmé | |_______ | | | ???____________??? Luke Leia______Han | | Rey Kylo I mean the idea of Anakin secretly cheating on Padmé :O ...that would surprise everyone. :D (I hope the family tree won't be messed up after I hit Enter. :D )

Joder... brutal tio.... xD

It also gives some foreshadowing that Rey might turn to the dark side at some point.

The ending credits the first time i went, showed her as being Rey Skywalker..but when I went to the movie the second time, it didn't show that..the first time was premier night..

Damn this may be it lol

Luke and Obiwan were devout Jedi. NO BABES which means no babies which means she cant be a daughter or granddaughter. the vader theme is present because she is Anakin/ Vader reincarnated to fix the mess he made the first time around. That's the best theory I've heard and after thinking about the movie and how she just destroys Kylo Ren with no training and has that crazy reaction to Anakins light saber, and has visions like Anakin did.... Im all in on it.

This is not technical at all...but listen to a anakin vs obi-wan from revenge of the with soundtrack, it stars at 8 seconds and plays throughout....and listen for it in Maz's Counsel from the force awakens soundtrack...it!s in-between 1:40-1:50...sounds like a subtle hint to me...in the movie, it stars right after Rey says she doesn't want any part of it after the discovery of the light saber

I read that Mark said the most popular theory is likely to be false

To my ear it sounds more like trying to prove your own initial hypothesis. However, you are right: John Williams does know who Rey is and Rey's theme as leitmotif must already expose this. I believe Rey's theme and thus Rey the character is derived from the few mysterious tones of the desert hermit Ben Kenobi, just before he becomes a jedi Obi Wan Kenobi again. I am not a composer, so you refute this. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lZiFi91hltHaaIU.html

You say 0:44 sounds like Vader's Theme? It sounds a whole lot more like the _Schindler's List_ soundtrack. Is that supposed to mean Rey is secretly a Jew? A lot of Williams pieces sound similar to other pieces he wrote, you're grasping for straws a bit I think. So do you guys thoroughly listen to John Williams music? The themes of Force Awakens sound like very basic background notes compared to Williams's real stuff. Unfortunately the industry doesn't care as much about inspiring good music in its composers these days, including Disney. Rey's theme was _decent_ but everyone shouldn't hype JW when he's already the best composer, at least I know of, show some actual judgment and standards please? Seeing the genius in every single moment of his music is grasping for straws when we know for a fact a lot of people could compose his more background-like pieces with ease. It is his perfectly orchestrated amazing moments that truly baffle us and aren't reconstructable: E.T., Star Wars IV and V, Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, Harry Potter, Superman, and many of his pieces which are tremendously catchy.

Or it confirms the reincarnation theory