“To prevent the destruction of both worlds, Kirby inhales a semi truck” has got to be one of the best sentences I’ve ever heard

Lab rats and mice often have a small hole punched out of the outside of one of their ears. The same can be seen in Elfilin’s design. It’s an interesting detail and great way of foreshadowing, tying them in to the whole ‘lab rat’ thing going on

Fun fact: In the japanese version of Chaos Elfilis is called Soul of chaos which is the exact title the Void Soul use in Star Allies. The description for Chaos Elfilis figure in Japanese also state that after Kirby beat it, it was reborn back into the tiny ball of light that return back to Elfilin which really tie its connection to Void Termina even further

Forgot how nuts Kirby lore is, I actually really liked this one, Kirby lore is so interesting to me tbh

Something about Fecto Forgo, is that when it consumes a creature, it's brought into an alternate dimension. There's one other being in the Kirbyverse which does this: Kirby himself; in Squeak Squad where you actually interact with the things he consumes, in an alternate dimension. Incidentally, Elfilin is also freed from Elfilis inside a bubble... and abilities/consumed objects are stored inside Kirby in a bubble too. And Leon himself was stored in a bubble

I think the scariest part of this is that fecto Elfilis was captured in the first place. Meaning the original inhabitants or one of them specifically is far more powerful than anything Kirby encountered in the New World

fun fact: if you attack or “damage” a waddle dee (i’ll just say wd) in wd town, they will fall over on the ground for a few seconds before jumping back up and waving at you. however, if you attack a wd in the elevator, nothing happens, most likely because it’s too scared to “play dead” or whatever the hell you wanna call it

14:57 He actually gained that ability by absorbing a piece of the heart spears. That's what the pink streaks at the beginning of star allies were, fragments of the heart spears.

I think the name of the level, “The wastes were life began” is referencing how the desert was originally an ocean, and life began in the ocean.

I’ve always thought “Fecto” was a play on the phrase “Perfecto”, since Fecto is supposed to be the ultimate (in other words, _perfect_ ) life form

I kinda wish that after Elfilin and fecto fuse at the end that his his little ear things became conplete. I think that would have been cool

Fun fact: fecto in Latin means "complete" so fecto forgo could stand for "completely forgotten" a creepy name for an unsettling boss As for chaos elfilis' second phase... miracle matter comes to mind as it uses some of kirby's abilities like cutter and burning

Honestly kirby could be all four traits positively manifested. Chaos really is just random chance with no rules and I kinda feel his copy ability fits in with an ever changing nature of chaos.

Note: Most kirby games have a acronym with thier stage list that gives the player foresight into the plot if they make sense of it. Forgotten Land’s is N E W O R LD, which like Star Allie’s, it isn’t that important to the plot unlike Triple Deluxe, Robobo, and Return to Dreamland.

Does anyone else see the skybox of Chaos Elfilis as the inside of void terminals shell (when you first go inside void termina)?

So ive ive understood it correctly then… Gooey:“let our powers combine! Dark!“ Elfillin:“Dream!“ Mirror World Kirby:“Soul!“ Ribbon:“Heart!“ “By your powers combined i am… POYO“

Fecto Forgo looks like a hellspawn, this game suprised me with Lore honestly.

You forgot to mention how every member of beast pack can't actually speak, and Leongar was only able to because of ID-F86's possession. After you free him, he doesn't say another word. It's likely ID-F86 learned how to speak because of the constant jibber jabber of the scientists surrounding it, especially after it became a tourist destination, with the words, "And here we are," basically being printed into its mind. Likewise, Elfilin can also speak full sentences, being a sub-specimen of ID-F86. The only thing that bothers me about all of this is the implication that Elfilin is 30+ years old.

I remember reading about the dark/dream/heart/soul thing, and knew it had to have implied meaning in the future. Fecto Elfilis being dream matter-related was one of the 1st things that crossed my mind!

“And here we are” that line still gives me chills

Lol the "king dededes item description" killed me

The way you hear "And here we are!" when phase 2 of the final final boss begins... it's just so creepy and eerie while communicating to you how fed up and angry chaos elfilin is from being trapped in that lab and how it wants revenge against everyone and everything!

It’s always scary when all the other characters have written dialogue, and then one has spoken dialogue.

6:34 Actually established in Kirby's Dreamland 3, with the same character. 12:05 Minor correction: the entire Ultimate Cup Z takes place on the other side of an unexplained rift. 14:55 That ability was granted by a piece of one of the Heart Spears that sealed Void.

I can hear you smiling at 9:52 when you're trying not to point out how amazing the Semi-truck section is.

I interpret Fecto Forgo’s name a bit differently. Forgo literally means ‘to go without’ and Fecto could be like perFECTiOn, so Fecto Forgo’s name is more like ‘Screw perfection, I want REVENGE.’

There's also a reference in game to Void. Bits of Elfilis' theme sound *eerily* similar to Void Termina's theme.

When I saw morpho knight in my blind playthrough I legitimately yelled "MORPHO KNIGHT IS CANNON NOW!"

Kirby really is the antithesis of below-the-surface story-telling. the boys at HAL labs are probably the best developers on average, what they do, they do extremely well, but they also don't push people out of their comfort zones if they really don't want to, Kirby really is a series for all people.

No way Kirby lore goes this hard

I think this brought up the existence of soul and dream matter. You touched on soul matter but it’s what all the final bosses look like in their soul form

I don’t really know if Elfilis is a reincarnation of void, or a creation. Sure, void has been around for a very long time, but if the ancients learned about elfilis a long time ago, either they could determine that elfilis is from void when they were in the forgotten land, or we could have gotten some foreshadowing in star allies if the ancients learned later. I think elfilis is an entity similar to void, but for a different dimension. We’ve already learned that there are parallel versions of Kirby characters, so it’s reasonable to assume void has one too, and even though it has dimension warping abilities, that doesn’t mean it didn’t have a home world.

Mewtwo: "Finally, a worthy opponent." "Our battle will be-!" _Both get defeated simultaneously by a 10 year old and pink puffball_

It makes me sad that I just learned a week ago that in the true arena inside nova ur beating his heart or soul when I gotten to that part I always thought the distorted screams are from nova because I heard cat screams, but now I learned those are haltmann’s screams in agony that’s some dark souls crap

Why does Kirby have lore deeper then any souls like

The second I saw Chaos Elflis’s attacks in his second from, it was obvious… Remember that all the attacks below, mirroring a boss mean the entity is likely another form of void Dark Matter, Zero and Dark Mind Drawcia Master Crown Sectonia Nova/Star Dream/Marx(it’s likely the powers the ancients used to create nova are the from void) Add Fecto Elflis to list…

Ah Kirby, my favorite cosmic horror franchise.

Still not over Morpho Knight deleting the soul boss, even though Chaos Elfilis exists

The implications of the ancient civilization abandoning the planet are terrifying. Fertile planets are immensely valuable and not something a civilization would leave behind without a very good reason. What was that reason, you ask? Well, recall how Leon was possessed by Fecto Forgo and understand that a king is a just a politician without checks and balances. It's likely that the ancient civilization had a capitalist system, given all of the theme parks, malls, and vending machines. I think they also had a democracy, since checks and balances are needed to counteract FF's power of possession. They likely even tried a council of elected leaders, rather than a singular president. However, despite their best efforts, I believe that FF managed to stealthily and strategically corrupt the minds of politicians, businesspeople, and religious leaders to gain power and harm society in order to instill fear. The public may have even been left in the dark because the leaders were too afraid of what people would do if they knew their leaders were being possessed by an evil psychic alien. Why didn't they kill FF if a few basic attacks and slamming him with a truck was enough for Kirby to do the job? Well, it's likely that they tried this already and it lead to something similar to what's in the post game of Forgotten Land. Somehow, FF may have been able to regain a body, leaving them back at square one and having to recapture FF. It's likely that at this point, the council of leaders decided that abandoning the planet was the best option for protecting what remained of their society and future generations from FF's influence. We can only speculate, but this is my headcanon.

Something I find funny is that before the game came out I said, jokingly, to a friend that “unless the ancients liked building amusement parks, I don’t think this game will have much lore,” and then the game heavily hints towards a connection between the long lost race and Pop Star along with the ability to travel through dimensions like the Lor Starcutter

I like how this implies the final form of chaos elfilis is just a really specific chemical mixture of Dream, heart, darkness and soul to form a void-like entity.

Could dream matter also tie into the abilities of the Star Rod and the Fountain of Dreams? Could Nightmare be related to this dream matter as well? The four knights who sealed Void Termina originally, could each one of them have represented the 4 types of matter mentioned? This raises so many questions, and I hope it sparks discussion among fans!

Something I don't see anyone talk about is that the automated voice mentions how "30 years ago" a warp experiment accident or failure happened at the facility. You know what else happened 30 years ago? Kirby's first game. What if... and I know this idea isn't true, but just what if... the accident is what caused Kirby to wind up in Dreamland?

So if Fecto Forgo is to Elfilin as Dark Matter is to Kirby then this implies other versions of Dream matter like elfilin. Even more so, Fecto Forgo being an invasive species implies that Elfilin came from a dimension with more Dream matter than what we've seen. Additionally Elfilin being a small part of Fecto Forgo that becomes good means that Elfilin isn't a Dream matter version of Kirby, but instead he's a dream matter version of....gooey. Elfilin is Gooey.

He almost cracks up when saying “Kirby swallows a semi-truck”

10:11 I wish this cutscene showed time passing before elfilin created a "stable connection"

You know what? After watching this and the Completionist video I'm fully convinced to try this Kirby game, it looks awsome!

I don’t think that the Ancients are the ones who left the planet for Popstar. I think the people left were the people who studied science and banished the Ancients. Hence the the more civilized world and science-like Lad Discovera.

Funny how the *Warp* Star and the Star Rifts have similar travel capabilities… Also, the parts where time skips around a bit seems like time runs at different rates relative to each dimension.

Was I the only one that was really surprised when I saw kirby fleeing from the vortex in the first cutscene? Usually, kirby never hesitates when it comes to protecting Popstar and his friends...

personally i believe that the forgotten land is the... lets just say 'real world'. As you mentioned in the video specimen ID-F86 came to this land through the star portals and laid waste to the land. They were eventually captured and experimented on. This lead to the creation of the ancients machines which allowed them to travel through these star portals implied by the "planetary warp technology we use today". However ID-F86 has a secondary ability, the creation of dreams, i dont know if it was mentioned in the video but the fact that 'forgo dreams' is a place that has manifested due to the destruction of one of these star portal users and created a realm where their soul resides. It may be possible that dreamland and the whole world of kirby is one such place where the starcutter was destroyed and those that were boarded on the starcutter became lost souls as did specimen ID-F86. This led to the creation of many creatures that inhabit the land such as void, drawcia, magolor, marx, sectonia and even possibly the star dream as it has a soul of its own.

This video is wonderfully informative, even with some of the speculations and theories. It is very well made.

I personally think that the ancients and whoever lived in the forgotten land were not the same, considering hyness and magolor look nothing like humans and I believe it was stated that halcandra used to be the home of the ancients not the forgotten land

what I have managed to gather is that there is a wild and chaotic force in Kirby's universe, that when concentrated with either good or bad emotions becomes a good or evil entity. Kirby is the good, Void is the evil. what this Forgo being seems to be is this negative force combined with another, a void combined with the magic of dreams perhaps, this would make Elfilin a version of good energy combined with the dream magic, the Kirby counterpart to Forgo.

I have been looking everywhere for a video that mentions the four matters of kirbyverse and finally you mentioned about it! Thank you!

"The ultimate lifeform" Shadow has entered the chat.

Elfilis really hates the voices that haunted him.

This video was amazing! Im a huge kirby fan and you did him justice haha. Id love to hear you dive more into kirby lore its so great to hear! I loved the connection to star allies that was so dope! Im super excited right now thank you haha

Thank you for make this video, I enjoyed it!

The dominant civilization-forming species in the Forgotten Land “disappeared into a land of dreams” and left the miscellaneous animals of the Beast Pack behind. I think when it says the Wastes Where Life Began it’s referring to the fact the Originull Wasteland is a dried up ocean, so if the forgotten land is akin to Earth, then life began and evolved from the ocean, which by extension refers to where the Beast Pack Originated if the beast pack just refers to all the animals left behind by the humans who ascended or whatever. Also “Fecto” means “Complete”, or “completely” in Latin, although Forgo appears to be a made up word, so perhaps the name Fecto Forgo roughly translates to Completely Forgotten? Also if Fecto Forgo was released after Morpho absorbed it, then was defeated, then I guess that implies Galacta Knight might also be okay after being disintegrated by that damn butterfly in Star Allies? Or maybe Galacta’s soul is still chilling out in the butterfly. Maybe he likes his new role?

Not an Elden Ring content I expected, but I'll take it.

When i first played Forgotten land and through Chaos Elfilis true final boss It legit gave me flashbacks of Heart of Nova Specifically Star dream in Robobot Especially with the Cutter attack both Star dream's Heart of Nova and Chaos Elfilis Use Alongside with it being the fact you literally fight their soul

I love scrolling through an Elden Ring lore channel to find a singular Kirby video

You should have more subscribers, this analysis is AMAZING!

So I'm absolutely down with kirby being a step in the right direction for void and elfilin being the same for our new friend, gooey possibly being that equivalent for dark matter as well so all of that being said..what does that make meta knight? We know what he is, same species as Kirby...but I feel like meta knight has to shed some light somewhere in this ya know?

I know its a little unrelated but Kirby music is just soo good! I somehow forget just how great it is, but remember clear as day when its played in the background of videos like this. XD

Fecto is Latin for the world complete

Great video and at 16:34 I gotta also point out that clutch win at the very end. I would've melted into sludge if I died there

This is a fantastic video. Very indepth and respective of the material.

Really interesting look into the lore! Thanks for uploading!

wait so youre telling me that a gold cage needs only 3 bird to carry BUT DEDEDE NEEDS 10?!

I like your analogies on the Kirby verse. I think with some more fleshing out of the lore there could be a really cool universe! The physical world versus dream world. Also this Forgo world got me intrigued. I noticed the theme song of the Forgo Isle is named, " faded dream of a psycho meddler ". Just really cool

The only thing I'd add is that Kirby doesn't naturally have the ability to create or throw friend hearts either. In the opening cutscene of Star Allies, one of the first notable things that happen is that Kirby gets hit by a fragment of the Jamba heart's enclosing spears, awakening him from his sleep. This shard grants him the ability to create and throw friend hearts, and access friend abilities. Likewise, in the Forgotten Land, his new ability is that of mouthful mode to operate on inanimate objects.

I just realized something, if GalactaKnight is a reincarnation of Astral Birth Void/The Elements, then The Butterfly/MorphoKnight has absorbed two of these reincarnations and might be absorbing them specifically to do... something, maybe involving an apocalypse of some kind. The theory could use some workshoping, but I feel like I'm on to something.

A multiversal threat attacks Kirby. "Ah, yes, a semi-truck, that should be enough to crush it."

Hah. I love checking the channel out and seeing this Kirby video squeezed in between elden ring lore vids. What a dichotomy.

I have never seen your work but I enjoyed it I will continue with your other work

I just finished the main story and i wanna say.... THIS GAME IS SO AMAZING!!!

That's funny, I always thought "Fecto" had something to do with being defective or imperfect and being perfect at the same time depending on which form of Elfilis you fight.

Interesting that in just two games, we seem to learn two of the most important facts about the Ancients - how they rose up, and perhaps how they fell.

See the full thread on THIS video: m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jJihgtBm2qiZo3k.html With the advent of Forgotten Land, I think I’m able to properly assess the four different Matters and I might even be able to predict what kind of villain Kirby is going to have a difficult time facing. The long and short end of this is simple: Dark < Dream < Soul < Heart < (repeats back to “Dark”) Dark Matter: They excel in strength and power. If you were to get into a fight with a being of Dark Matter, they would easily win the fight based on brute strength alone; be it Positive Dark Matter or Negative Dark Matter. They would be able to easily take down a being of Dream Matter, but would have a more than difficult time taking down a being of Heart Matter. Dream Matter: They have a natural gift of the mind; their thoughts translate to power, much like the Chaos Emeralds except without the mediator. In a fight against a being of Dream Matter, they would probably win based off of psychic power alone. They would be able to easily take down a being of Soul Matter, but have a more than difficult time taking down a being of Dark Matter. Soul Matter: Much like a lot of the Soul fights we’ve experienced already, they have a natural quickness to them and they have a decent amount of strength, and defense. In a fight against a being of Soul Matter, it would probably win based on its ability of quickness; to get the attack in before you could make the first hit. They would be able to easily take down a being of Heart Matter, but have a more than difficult time taking down a being of Dream Matter. Heart Matter: The one we have yet to see in a Kirby game, but leaves a lot of room for speculation, they say that the heart is guarded, so as such, I believe that a being of Heart Matter, positive or negative, would have an INSANE defensive ability and have a semi-speedy quality about them (for dodging attacks of course) If you were to get in a fight with a being of Heart Matter, they would probably win the fight based off of you wearing yourself down, and then they would take the upper hand of the battle. They play the long game: and for a good reason, they lack brute strength. They would be able to easily take down a being of Dark Matter, but have a more than difficult time taking down a being of Soul Matter. Kirby is a positive Dark Matter, so our would-be villain that would give Kirby a run for his money would be a negative Heart Matter being. (Feel free to add anything below, I might just pick up a few ideas if they’re really good.😉)

you deserve mor subs man

Solid vid, might have to play this game now. Fights looks good.

I forget where I saw this, but I saw somewhere that Fecto means “Completed” in Roman or something. While Forgo is a shortened form of Forgotten. This would mean Fecto Forgo means “Completely Forgotten” and Fecto Elfilis is “Completed Elfilis” But again, I forget where I saw this. I think the Kirby wiki iirc using context clues for both Fecto Forgo and Fecto Elfilis’s pages.

It's kinda weird that I found many comparable moments when I was looking at the map and thought this was many centuries after the events of Mother 3 and you can find some places in the first half of the land that resemble places in EARTHBOUND

While watching this video, i came up with an idea: Wireframe Mouthful if kirby inhales a wireframe object, idk, could be in a "science museum", kirby could make himself stretch around the wireframe shape and become some form of lightweight, living container/wheel replacement/glider that is actually strong/etc. Maybe he could become an enemy container that doesn't hurt you if you're attacked from the inside, idk.

2:17 lol the elden ring weapon box here

Kirby really be out here running hands against powerful interdimentional deities on a daily basis

I don't know much about the Kirby storyline, but this was a very good and interesting video!

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At 17:40, it looks like Gooey is holding one of Dark Matter’s flying thingys, and saying to you to eat it, I don’t, just thought it looked like that🤣

Your gonna be meteorz successor.

Somehow every Kirby Endboss is really epic despite the introduction of said final boss being the minute you fight them

17:33 Even in a video not connected with him, Gooey still somehow manages to be funny by seemingly yoinking Dark Matter with his tongue

Leaving the forgotten land and going into a land of dreams doesn’t necessarily mean they went to dream land or planet Popstar at all, but simply travelled to Kirby’s universe to find a new home, my theory is the Shiver Star was the new planet they colonized which was once earth, however something bad happened there leading the planet going into a snow apocalypse and forcing the ancients underground. I just want point out the similarities between Shiver Star’s finale boss level and the one where we fight Fecto Elfilis in forgotten land, the buildings in the background of both games are black with red lights probably suggesting they where built by the same civilization. I believe Adeline from crystal shards is the last of the ancients.

ID-F86 is the ultimate being Kirby: "And I took that personally"

the first time the team had been on top in their last five years

There were a few details I missed, so this helped.

Damn efelis got isekaid

All I’m saying is that Elfilis didn’t take/copy moves from void, but it would make sense if it was the other way around. Meaning that even in the future, villains will still be traced back to void