CM Punk has zero belief today in the things he said in that pipe bomb and one can argue he's the opposite of that person today. Steiner still believes what he said and is still that person today. Math > Pipebomb

Luke is here saying "Ospreay vs. Danielson is the best match of the year objectively" and I'm screaming at my phone like "THAT’S WHAT THE QUESTION IS, YOU ARE JUST SAYING OLI IS RIGHT. WHAT KIND OF ARGUMENT IS "it's expected to be the best match"?! WHAT ARE YOU DOING, LUKE

Biggest takeaway from this show. Oli comes prepared, Laurie is a great debater, and Luke can't debate his head out of a paper bag.

The greatest thing about Steiner Maths is it needs no context. The Pipebomb is all context.

The legend goes that Laurie was soon fired after the stream ended by Oli.

As someone who doesn’t watch NRB, it’s great to see Laurie back on the wrestling stuff. Not going to lie, his inclusion is what got me to watch this as much as I did.

I never knew I needed a wrestletalk debate show until now

We just witnessed the villain origin story of Ollie Davis. The look on his face, this is a broken man.

The result of this debate can easily be explained through some math. The moment Laurie was added to the mix, Olis chances of winning DRASTIC went down. You see Oli, in a 3 way debate you got a 33⅓ chance of winning, but Luke! He got a 66⅔ chance of winning cause Laurie KNOWS he can't beat him so he is not even gonna try. The numbers don't lie, and they spelled disaster for Oli.

Math gives us Engineering Engineering gets us bombs Ergo, Math is greater than Pipebomb

Math>Pipebomb Now. Forever. Together.

1:52:15 - _partsFUNknown would like to wish Laurie Blake the best in his future endeavours._

Oil’s face at the end when Math was declared the winner was the cherry on top.

Oli needs to have a depression storyline where he feels betrayed like Sting and returns like Crow Sting for his redemption arc

I love Luke's argument for best match of the year literally ruins his argument but he says it with so much confidence. Ollie yours is the best match of the year but it was always going to be Ok debate settled then 😂

We all know math had a 100% chance of winning at sacrifice Edit: Spelling

It’s everything I want in a video. Couple lads arguing about wrestling I love it

Oli's face at the end needs to be a shirt. Really enjoyed how you guys broke down the debate of the greatest member of the sheild, Honestly as somebody who watched from start to end Oli and Luke breaking down the rise and breakup of the faction, it was a logical starting point to begin this with the "2 birds one stone" treatment, while settling the "which promo is better" you guys also found a great way to tie the sheild breakup aftermath in nice bow. Great job.

There was a 33 and 2 3rds chance of me enjoying this

Oh how I've missed Laurie! He's the heart and soul of this company. Believe that.

Pipebomb got tons and tons of people back into wrestling. Steiner maths made people laugh. The pipebomb is easily the better promo

Love this as a new show. Hope it continues

Finally decided fair and square. As it should've been in the first place

I genuinely believe Seth is the best from the shield. Most reliable, was the one they put the belt on when Roman wasn’t ready. I think they are all on the same level but Seth always felt like the guy I wanted if I could only pick one of the 3 for my promotion.

You know I only come on KZfaq just to watch this channel. Always love the content

Great format guys! I had a blast! Keep it up! Greetings From Hungary!

Now you need to put Ollies face on a tshirt next to Cornettes. Now time to watch the math promo

The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for Oli

You can see the exact moment Oli’s heart is ripped out

We need a t-shirt with Steiner Math and Oli’s face at the end😂😂 I was in stitches watching his reaction

I’ve listened to both promos a bunch of times But I can’t recall ever making non fans watch the pipe bomb… So……

Bo's cat gimmick = Bo DalHiss

Love seeing new video concepts on this channel!

Stiener math is funny, but its just a meme, its a planned out meme at that. The pipe bomb legit brought back people to wwe who were leaving or left.

Biggest robbery ever.

Voice of the voiceless vs calculator of the dummies 😂 EPIC

The end of this video is the worst thing ever to happen on this channel.

There's no way even Luke believes that math > pipebomb 😂 fun joke though.

Oli’s reaction at the end needs to be the react thumbnail going forward

Best To Worst Overall: Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose. Seth Rollins is Triple Crown Champion and Grand Slam Champion, was the Shield member to win the WWE Champion, won the Royal Rumble and MITB. He can cut a promo, go in the ring, get over as a face or heel, he's held three different world championships and is the only Shield member who has held the NXT Championship. Seth Rollins is considered a workhorse and the modern day Shawn Michaels. Roman Reigns was the first Triple Crown Champion and Grand Slam Champion, he's main evented the most WrestleMania's, is the longest reigning world champion in the modern era and the 4th overall in superlative reigns. However he wasn't the best at cutting promos until he turned heel and wasn't over as a face for over 4 years. And I honestly don't think he'll be able to pull off being a face when he returns. Dean Ambrose is also a Triple Crown Champion and Grand Slam Champion, he's a former MITB winner, he can cut a promo, was over as a face but only partially over as a heel when not apart of The Shield. He can also go in the ring but he was never given a fair shot. He was WWE Champion once for 69 days, didn't have a memorable US Championship run, never main evented WrestleMania and was only on the main roster for a little over six years, almost half the time he was teaming up with Seth Rollins or Roman Reigns if not facing them, and if he was still in WWE he might get another world title reign but no more after.

The look on Ollie's face is one of the greatest things I have ever seen.

Tempest absolutely needs a gavel and perhaps a powdered wig. He needs to show his authority in this court! Objectively.

Movie Fights doesn't exist anymore. So this'll have to do.

Thank you guys for talking about our interview with Bret Hart , we rebranded as “digitally dreaming off the gridiron podcast” we’ve had lots of guests from Justin credible to Ken shamrock. Some of those were even better than the “ayy 👕one pod” yes I spelled it like that

Personally: Moxley > Rollins > Roman Roman's reign as head of the table (which really overstayed it's welcome in my opinion) does not make up for the YEARS of terrible booking we had to endure with WWE trying to get him over. I love Rollins and I always did like him more in WWE than I did Ambrose, but when Dean left and became Moxley again he had some of my favourite matches and moments in AEW and NJPW.

Wow,I can't believe I just got glued to the screen watching this,I enjoyed it so much

I also have an unironic love of MITB 2020. Probably one of the only proper pandemic matches I’d go back and watch. It’s just so funny.

Oli, from the bottom of my heart, don't burden yourself with this loss. Some times people forget to add Laurie Blake to the mix. Things happen, bruv

I'll rate this according to Bret Hart's criteria (out of 10) IN RING : Rollins - 9.5 Moxley - 8.5 Reigns - 8 PROMO : Reigns - 9.5 Moxley - 9 Rollins - 8.5 Look/Presence : Reigns - 10 Rollins - 8.5 Moxley - 8 Overall: Reigns -27.5 Rollins - 26.5 Moxley- 26

Better than the Presidential Debate

Can someone put chapters for all the arguments made. I wanna see the Math v Pipebomb debate but I don't wanna comb the video to find it

I can't stand phil brooks aka c.m punk, as a man and a performer. With that c.m punk is entertaining on the microphone. I gotta say punk's pipe bomb is better than Steiner math. The only promo that comes close to the pipe bomb, is Kevin Owens on smackdown years ago, when shane was running smackdown. You could feel Owens frustrations. Mainly bc they were our frustrations. Owens went off on shane and everything that's been going on.

After their arguments i searched for math and not pipebomb, thats why math > pipe, it has researchable value

I guess WT finally opened my email from 2020 where I pitched them this concept 😅

PipeBomb > Math. I will die on this hill and wouldn’t mind if someone took me out on it and buried me.

This is soooooooo good! Missed Laurie talking bout some wrestle bollocks too.

How does Laurie turn Oli into a Simpsons character at the end?!

Stopped watching after "dean ambrose is the best member of the shield" Absolutely ridiculous

It’s like Movie Fights; but Wrestling. I’m here for it.

Ollie actually swayed me a little there, but Luke brought me back, Pipebomb mattered a lot to us that watched at the time, but Maths will outlive us and be loved by every generation. Actually wild. Iyo VS Bayley is what I thought the best match at Wrestlemania was, too. Great debates, love this idea, look forward to the next one.

The loser setting fire to No Rolls Barred as we speak….

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! MATH > PIPEBOMB!!! I think Oli should have that tattooed on his chest by Scott Steiner.

YOU’RE DEAD TO ME, LAURIE BLAKE!

People need to stop saying "if you remove this stuff from this match, this other match is better." Well, yea, if you remove half of my money, I'll be poorer. But you can't take things out that actually happened. "If you take out all the things that made this match awesome, it wasn't awesome." Cody/Roman II is not just my match of the year, it's going to be remebered as arguably the greatest WrestleMania main event of all-time.

This is great! And cannot wait to see more topics debated. Best Royal Rumble. Best Iron Man match. 2nd best WrestleMania. The list of possibilities are endless!

Would love to see this take inspo from more elements of 'Movie fights' that screen junkies used to do! Been waiting ages for one of the wrestling channels to do something like this.

Reigns now is the best SHIELD member. Mox left, and the gimkick he was given destroyed his popularity, when he was out the fans never chanted "We want Dean" Rollins is a song, a gimmick, people i feel are sick of his demeanor. He is having a meaty promo with Punk, and what do the fans do? Sing. Not be entertained by the ring. Plus look at how many gimmick changes Seth has had, thats a sign that you have a short shelf life and constantly needing to be rebranded. Roman came back in the pandemic year and just crushed it. He survived the VKM dog food era, while he didnt make the ultimate plan, he executed it perfectly.

Seth's win/loss record makes him the best of the group. He has lost an insane number of matches, being trusted to put over other talents and keep his own momentum through sheer star power. Meanwhile, Roman's entire career is defined by having been allowed to win every match - an opportunity almost anyone in the company could make work.

I love seeing the guys argue about wrestling. Thumbs up 👍

1. Seth Rollins 2. Roman Reigns vs. Cody Rhodes 3. Will Ospreay 4. Uncle Howdy 5. Wrestlemania 23 6. Pipebomb, but Steiner Math is my favorite promo

Love the new format! Keep it going

MATHS! MATHS! MATHS! MATHS! MATHS!

I'm just saying I see more people recite Steiner math than the pipebomb

LOL He broke Oli MATH WINS! MATH WINS!

I think one thing that people who mythologise the pipebomb like to forget is that WWE was on board with it. They didn't know exactly what it would be but Punk did not go into business for himself to tell the audience all the things they weren't supposed to hear. It is not the Daniel Bryan-story, where the fans changed the business united behind this one guy they believed in. It was WWE's way to adress their own disgrunteld audience and bring them back ...

1:35:48 is when Maths vs Pipebomb starts

Education has won. Long live the educational proprietors who enable such great mathematical thought to be dreamt and thus win this debate. MathsGREATERthanPIPEBOMB!

If I may add something to the first debate in defense of Roman Reigns. He went through the most vitriol out of the SHIELD brothers. I remember those days of the Boos, the death and assault threats against Roman and his family, the fans throwing replica briefcases at him. no one would have blamed him for walking away. And yet he kept going and came out as one of the best wrestlers of our generation.

Kevin Owens fought El Generico on several occasions. How are they the same person?

This is fantastic! I love it. It's like a bite-sized deep dive, something I wasn't sure could be done, but you have absolutely pulled it off.

Law & Order: PFK. 10/10

Should’ve known tempest was gonna pick Dean 😂

Absolute robbery omg. That was so much fun.

Enjoy the format. Look forward to more episodes. I think you should throw in some occasional blind questions, like they used to do on Movie Fights, to see them squirm on the spot. Maybe even multiple choice so the last to pick gets stuck with an answer they might not want. For example: Who would win a triple threat for the U.S. title? Homelander Cody, '99 Kurt Angle, or Real American Hogan?

Olli made alot of quick small errors that a fact checker should've rocked him on. Lol

The swerve at the end should have been Laurie revealing a "Tear in my eye > pipebomb + maths" T-shirt, thus making the entire episode a draw.

Really like this new format the sound just needs a bit of improvement. That’s all, nice work keep it up.

Punk said a lot of stuff all the fans were saying in the Pipebomb. but it did nothing. It didn't stop Super Cena. It didn't stop Vince's tyranny. It didnt actually achieve anything at all. Which too many people seem to think it did.

Really liked this show!

Love this concept. It's movie fights but pro-wrestling.

Hell.... in....a.....cell..... that negates Laurie's entire argument that Seth never had a failure.

It's great to see Laurie Blake again, he was the best debater by far

Luke is a Great Math Debater

I hope that people are just trolling when they say that math>pipebomb because i mean come on guys, cm punk cut a promo so brilliantly that Cody changed wrestling 😂😂 I don't remember anyone showing love towards the pipebomb besides Luke because he's Luke 😂😂

Beginning the war by scott Hall is the most important prome and the best promo ever

It’s hilarious that they know political references like “can we mute his mic when I talk” but I as an American I have no clue what’s happening across the pond…. Am I a bad citizen of the world???

One point Luke missed, you can show even a non-wrestling fan the Steiner Math promo, and with no context, they will get what Steiner and wrestling is about. The Pipebomb needs the context around it. If you don't know the context you have no clue the things Punk is talking about.

The pipebomb is famous is in wrestling. The steiner math promo has been referenced in pop culture outside wrestling. Math > pipebomb.

No way in hell was 12 years of consistently horrendous booking worth getting the tribal Chief character. Think of all the names that were just thrown away because "we need to get Roman over" or "We need to make Roman look strong."

That’s crap. Laurie EASILY gave the best match argument. He chose the wrong pick but his argument was BY FAR the best