It's good to see Karl, Pheww, VeeWise and Kairi being mentioned. They all deserved it. Plus they brought a lot of pride in PH from the MLBB tournas.

Im not Mielow! Hahaha hoon hoon😊

Karltzy's achievements will speak for itself, Like being the M2 and M4 champ with 2 different play style, he Won M2 using carry jungler and In M4 he is using utility jungler. END OF ARGUMENT no one comes close

The goat debate ended as soon as mielow steps on stage

If you talk about Goat then it's definitely Karl but the best jungler right now is kairi imo

KarlTzy is the BEST player of all-time. It's not just because of his achievements, but because of his skills. His achievements are there because of his skills and how good he plays. The guy is the leader and the best player in all of his championship teams. He's the best hypercarry of all-time and now the best utility jungler of all-time. Leads MPL PH in all-time kills, Double Kills, Triple Kills, and Maniacs. Leads MPL PH in all-time Turtle and Lord takes. Whether getting kills or securing objectives, the guy is NUMBER ONE. Perfect combination of insane skills, team success, and individual achievements. Plays in the STRONGEST REGION, and the BEST PLAYER IN THE STRONGEST REGION. No one is really close.

For me is Mielow from TOB because he is better than all indo exp, he join TOB and TOB win NACT for the first time.He make history for NA and TOB for getting out of group stage for the first time in sea and first NA team to get knock out in playoff by Cambodia 😂 the GOAT Mielow 🐐

Karl, phew and vee are on the top, achievements, impact in international community and skills. Kairi might be the best right now but its still along way for him to say he is the goat

When the question is "who is the best player of ALL TIME?" and some said Kairi - I think he is the best player in This Time but not Best Player of All Time Yet. In terms of achievements and skills, I have KarlTzy and Pheww as a contender.

"ALL TIME" Karltzy, Pheww or VW are the only choices on this debate. And take note even Moonton recognized Karltzy as The GOAT.

Kairi has a good resume but he still has a lot to prove. So I think for now, It's Carl because of his achievements.

Momochan is probably Vee's number 1 fan outside the Philippines. She's just too loyal on Veenus.

Not only did Karltzy achieve more than anyone them but he's also the most versatile one out of them all. The GOAT! Although my personal all-time favourite would be BREN Yuji..he was a monster! I don't think many would remember him.

MSC and Snapdragon alone don't make you a GOAT. It's the culmination of achievements and influence you set for years that makes you the best player of all time. Karl, Pheww, and VeeWise are the strongest contenders for this.

Achievements reflect skills. All of the mentioned are the real GOATS of MLBB. U can't deny the stats and recognition coming from those players and caster. They knew too well.

If Bren win M5, there is no doubt that Pheww is the GOAT. He is cosistent even he play since season 1.

In my opinion, GOAT has done a lot of achievements in the past major tournaments with great contributions in the team, so I will go with either OhMyVeenus or Karltzy.

I remember watching karltzy before he was a midlaner then i saw him again on m2 carrying his team to victory, i missed how he was so good on assassins before 😢

off the top of my head, this would be the top 5 and kairi would be in the 6-8 range. He is amazing, probably the best player at the moment, but he needs to have those international achievements (m series, msc, or sea games) 1. Karltzy 2. Pheww 3. OhMyV33nus 4. Wise 5. Ribo

Momo's pick is also good, v33wise makes the support popular(UBE strat) and wise with his tank jungler meta

It is undeniable that Kairi is the best player as of now. But the keyword was G.O.A.T. and achievement wise the only possible answers could only be Pheww, Karltzy, Ribo, VeeWise. I'm still hoping that Kairi would be considered as GOAT soon if he would get a lot of international titles.

Not to hate on anyone and don't get me wrong. But the question is OF ALL TIME. Not the best RIGHT NOW. You can't say a player is THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME just base on one season, tournament, even a year.

KARLTZY, no questions. Already has 2 M-series championships.. kairi not even close😂

Guys we know that, we can’t pick KAIRI when it comes to GOAT topic. But the best jungler right now YES.

you know someone is disgustingly good when he doesnt have half the titles these world champs have but is still considered to be lined up with them

Momocha really loves the queen

These people should comprehend what Best Player of ALL TIME first before answering a question.

it's between Karltzy, Pheww, Ribo and Veewise.

IF KARLTZY MANAGES TO WIN THIS MPLI 2023 TITLE, THE ONLY TITLE LEFT FOR HIM TO ACHIEVE WOULD BE THE MSC TITLE.

For me karltzy because kairi when he play here in PH he just an ordinary jungler the reason why he looks so good because he is playing in weak region thats on my observation

First of all, kairi is one hell of a player even he was still in the Philippines. Even though he didn’t win any MPL Ph titles even after he transferred to different teams, A lot of potential was seen in him that’s why Onic Indonesia wanted so bad to import him. in fact I think he is the best there is that ever step foot in the MPL Indonesia even though he is a Filipino. However, when kairi was still playing in the Philippines he wasn’t able to carry his team to the finals even though back then it was still during the assassin meta, which was his favorite heroes to choose, but after he transferred to Indonesia he is able to consistently win in the MPL Indonesia. I think that speaks a lot how he is able to shine when the competition is not as intense or as competitive compared in the Philippines.

KarlTzy.. he is a winner wherever team he goes that shows how versatile he is and can adapt what environment he have while Veewise only dominate with the same team..true greatness dominate wherever he goes and what ever team he got.

Welp many says it KAIRI but in terms of achievements and consistency it's KARLTZY he's the GOAT 🐐🔥

Everyone is forgetting the 'Agent Zero' Edwad.

Thats it, no one mention Ribo. Most of pros know that its either Karltzy, Phew, and Veewise base on impact and achievements.

Bestplayer said it best. Short n to the point!

Greatest of all time These are their unique achievements Ribo - won all major tournaments Karltzy - 2time m series Phew - 3 time mpl-ph and 2 time seagames Veenus and wise - 3time mpl-ph 3 time final apearance in m series(won1) The only thing ribo is still in the list because all of the top 4 doesnt have msc champ I saw someone still commenting lemon, who doesnt have msc and m series lol

Definitely for me either Phew, Ribo, Jaypee or Hadji They have achievement, multi role that can play almost any role effectively and can play any hero

The record speaks for itself. Statistics don't lie. No recency bias to mention. It's Karltzy without a shadow of a doubt. If you want you can look at the records, and I mean ALL the records.

Aside from all time pheww i think this time is kairi on and Karl.also veenus the meta game changer specially for support heroes.

There so many beast before in ph like Yuji, Pheww, Veenus, Karltzy, and more who deserves some credits. RubyDD is insane, Albert is phemomenal, Lemon, Rafflesia, KielvJ, etc

Time has been bias on Kairi in this debate😂 your boy hasn't won any M-series yet. Yeah we could say they are the strongest team this season but so is BL in M3 seasons, Bren in M2, they are dominating too in that time so...

Great idea! The new recall king and yawi wannabe in the thumbnail!

Nice I love this guy talking ❤❤

Let’s think this through guys. Only looking at pure raw skills no one beats kairi but if we look at achievements no one beats Karl or you could say veewise as well so the obvious answer is Mielow the “GOAT”.

For me Pheww has a slight ahead over Karl for being the GOAT. 2 Gold Medal Sea games 1 M World Champ 1 IESF World Champ 2 MPL PH Champ From Core to Gold to Midlane. Only GOAT things 🐐

I think they misunderstood the question the interviewer ask who's the best all time not current best

Kairi is fantastic but he just recently showed off his skill. on the other hand Karltzy is still the two time M series champ

Momochan really loves OhmyVeenus 😊

Kairi is really the strongest jungler now, but by achievement karltzy

They didn't understand the question hahaha

Fredo Sameon made me fall in Love with MLBB❤

no one mentioned Doc Ribo 😢 the real Goat -MSC champ 2018 -M2 Champ -Sea games Gold medalist -2 time MPL ph champ

Bro, I'm from Indonesia and admit that currently there are many PH players who are very good, while the Indonesian players are overrated. In my opinion, the best players in Indonesia are Oura (M1 MVP) or Udil (you still remember at MSC 2019, this kid said "it's easy man"). When Clara part says Lemon, it's a big CRINGE. Without debate the GOAT is Karltzy. But for now Kairi so much potential is everyone's dreams he's handsome, smart, high mechanic, calculation.

Simps saying kairi Achievements saying Karl Mind saying pheww Heart saying Veewise.

As Malaysian i admire Lemon since i saw his kagura

xorn has sense of humor.. anyone who pick karl is in the right mind.. the question is who is the greatest mlbb player of all time😅

karl definelty the goat achievement and stat

The question was who is the best of ALL TIME ..not the current best player but were talking their whole career ..including the achievements and skills ..Karltzy won 2 World Championships while kairi doesnt but if he can won the M5 and use another jungler heroes aside of assasins, then maybe we can have a debate.

Well, it's indeed KarlTzy since he's a 2x M series champ. A real GOAT. 🐐

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Zane, who is the best player of all time? Zane: it’s Mobazane

Assassin Karltzy was a monster

No one mentioned "Ribo" hahaha it's like they all chose best player "now" not "all time". Anyway, yes, Karltzy it is!

KarlTzy is the current G.O.A.T. but if Phew (BREN) wins M5, he becomes the clear G.O.A.T. But honestly, right now, Kairi is the best MLBB player on the planet (regardless of positions or regions).

Hard to choose between Karl or Vee (all-time) But right now, well it's Kairi but he's on par with these two.

For me in terms of achievement its definitely karltzy however the best player at the moment in terms of mechanical skills and versatility its definitely kairi nobody play so good in using utility or assasin as a junger atm the amount of highlight he made in msc mplid and esl is unmatched and consistent

Question mentions "of all time".... Neggaas who said kairi didn't get the question.

GOAT = KarlTzy or Pheww Current Strongest = Kairi

Kairi is not yet in the GOAT topic. Stats-wise and achievement-wise, its KarlTzy. Like what Rose said, "because he's the GOAT". But don't get me wrong, Kairi is undeniably one of the strongest junglers rn.

Dude really forget about RIBO from BREN M2. But karltizy winning the M4 outstand RIBO.

Current best player must be Kairi? But we are talking about the GOAT? Either Pheww or Karltzy.

Saying Kairi is crazy 😭

Base on Achievements: 1.KarlTzy 2.Ohmyv33nus 3.Wise 4.Pheww 5.Ribo 6.Kairi 7.Edward 8.Hadji 9.Yawi 10.FlapTzy

the arguement of who's the best player of all time is this: who will we decide to play against an alien who threatens to destroy earth and will all depend on a mobile legends battle

Pheww and ribo is the the only 2 player that won every official tournament and yet they get snub

Best jungler? Yes KAIRI! But best over all, I mean GOAT? It's between KARLTZY, VEEWISE AND PHEW! But still the best MLBB player of all time 🇵🇭

Answering the question without knowing whats the essence of the questions ask😅 hahhaa it's Karltzy

every mention kairi is smart guy they know who is the goat humble

Veenus. Matalino nagiisip talga Edward. Hanap memorize niya mga gamit niyang hero Wise. Unique style. Lagging siya nauuna sa mga hero na pwede lng pang jungle Actually buying team ng blacklist.

Bro Karltzy won the M-series in 2 different teams. Do you think Kairi can win major tournaments having different team members? Let that sink in. GOAT - Karltzy

Karltzy and veewise are really good. Karltzy is especially good these past few years but Karltzy vs Wise retri battle i will take Wise. Karltzy is younggoat but Wise is the retrigod

if onic id win m5 i think indo players from onic deserved more recognition than kairi when it comes to achievement they are already champion before kairi joining them yes he is amazing player with crazy skills but when it comes to achievement if he stay onic in his whole career he cant surpassed the achievement of other members from onic id he needs to join other team first and win another thropy secure hi greatness and legacy same story with Karl phew and ribo from bren before goat discussion change when they got split in bren eSports before

"of all time" then its karl. Next would be veewise very consistent and always in the grand finals yeah they choked but being the 1st runner every season is kinda achievement. If Pheww get this m-series then he will take the crown as the goat.

I think others can't get it actually if you take as much conversation of GOAT it's probably Karltzy for now because we don't see as much who chase like Pheww and Flaptzy, also if the VeeWise make their comeback to play mlbb again. To point out yes Kairi is the best jungler in the world now but in GOAT convo Kairi can't be include as much as their are many filipino contender such as Pheww, Flap and VeeWise. But Kairi is young so he can prove a lot to be a candidate for GOAT conversation

from the past achievements wise it should be karlTzy.

Its either pheww or karl, if pheww wins m5, no one can say either way. People who says kairi when he has no worlds achievement YET

Of course the young goat 💪💪💪

Respect 👏🏻 Other Country Players Spitting Facts Over Ph Players ❤️

If you see the stat it should be karltzy,pheww,venus and wise they always in top 4 team of mpl and m series

People are sleeping sooooo hard on Pheww imo....Fun fact, He and Karltzy are the only players that has won every class A-S tournaments in the MLBB world....Those 2 are now on tie...whoever wins the MPLI or M5 will be the clear GOAT

You forgot Kirie Exports.

All-time and Current are very different

We cnt pick kairi when it come to GOAT topic

Achivement wise? Ribo definitely! Haha he got all major tittles (MPL, MSC,M2,SEA GAMES) Hes the only player holding that trophies

Mechanics wise, Kairi is the best MLBB player I've ever seen, 2nd is Karltzy and EDWARD they're equal, Skillset and Consistency and achievements.

Karltzy- 2 m series, seagames gold medalist Ribo- m2, seagames Flaptzy- m2, seagames, iesf Phew- m2, seagames 2x, iesf Veenus,wise, edward same achievements. Kairi only msc 2023,

This is truly our MPLI PH kaisen! 🇵🇭🦅

How can they claim it's Kairi when he hasn't won a single M-championship? While he's arguably the best jungler in the game "now" (although were talking 'OF ALL TIME'), his achievements don't compare to Karl, VeeWise, or Phew.

"I'm not Mielow" damn i love Hoon 🤣