11:36 “If you don’t lose, you’ve got a chance of winning” World class punditry.

Mourinho had a much tougher journey and still won. What he did in Porto and Inter Milan is unmatchable - especially at Porto. Guardiola is different. He seems to make good teams even better and his style of football is very appealing. Two giants, but for me Mourinho stands alone. It’s a matter of preference I guess.

mourinho is a defensive manager who is a pragmatist, guardiola is an attacking manager who is an idealist. Two completely different managers who are equally good in different aspects.

Pep: When I have the ball, you cannot score. Mourimho: When you are attacking, you cannot defend.

Mourinho is the man who does the impossible. Winning the league with Madrid. Winning the treble with Inter. Winning champions league and uefa cup with Porto. That's something that pep can't do.

These 2 aren’t not qualified to answer a question like this. Ask them who’s getting relegated. More their level.

How can bellamy say that Mourinho didn't have competition in serie A? Inter won the league on the last day of the season I believe.

in 2008, when Guardiola took over, how many English people were saying that Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Pique were world class? How many were saying that Xavi and Iniesta were the best midfielders in the world. I would say not many. Only after the treble and WC did people wake the fuck up.

Bellamy lost me when he tried to say Porto and Inter Milan should be winning the CL 🤦‍♂️

8:52 How can Bellamy try and dismiss Mourinho's achievements at Porto? What a clown

Guardiola had amazing players at Barca? He got rid of most of the big stars with his arrival and replaced with young, untested players from the academy. Ronaldinho, Zambrotta, Deco, Thuram - out of the door. Yaya Toure and Eto'o the following season. In their places - Sergio B., Pedro etc. I remember thinking at the time, that he was nuts and he was gonna get sacked before Christmas. Not to mention Barca had no trophies for 2 consecutive seasons before Guardiola. Now everyone is saying, that he inherited a winning team. It was the same with Bayern. How many trophies did Bayern win before the treble-winning season?

Players who played under both mourinho and pep .. are in a better position to voice their opinion

Mourinho Forever! 💪🤟❤️

Guardiola could walk on water and all the middle eastern, Asian, and london united fans would say it was because he couldn’t swim

Eric cantona said he rather watch city then United, Nuff said

Respect for this legend of a Manager, he is a champion and a fighter to the end... he is the man that can bring glory to united! Respect Respect Respect! I pick Mourinho for his style and talent.

If I was a young player then I'd rather have Pep as a mentor. Mourinho is better at grinding out results with average players. Too many idiots saying that Inter had a shit team when Mourinho took over, which is untrue since they had world class players like Samuel Eto'o and Zanetti.

Craig articulated his position with aplomb

Rinus Michels, Johan Cruijff, Sacchi and Guardiola have been the most influential coaches of the last 50 years.

Even as a United fan, I'll answer this as unbiased as possible. The better MANAGER is Mourinho the better COACH is Guardiola.

As an Man Und fan i have to pray for an victory but wihout pogba is gonna be very hard

Pep always had a good team with him like in Barcelona. Barcelona would have won the champions league with our without him but it wouldn’t be as entertain as it was and mourinho won with Porto. I rest my case Mourinho wins 🤘🏾

When they got destroyed by Bayern, Barca was managed by Tito n not Pep.

this is ridiculous, pep manchester city has net spent double compared to other EPL teams in the last 5 years. if you can spend that much on quality players, of course you will have some success. Jose mourinho has done it with lesser players and much less budget, FC porto, Inter milan. Bayern munich has won the past 8 bundesliga title, with or without guardiola they are just as good. Barcelona has won the la liga 5 in the last 7 years, they even won the UCL after pep. Now the issue is, Pep has never won the UCL without messi and that legendary barcelona team. He has always one of the strongest team every year, the year before he took over Bayern munich they were UCL champion. he has failed the trophy that every team he managed really wants, which is the UCL. but he always tried to downplay it because he knows it will hurt his legacy.

Super interview...intellectual and fact based...well done guys.

I find it hilarious when people compliment United on being huge and physical . If being very very tall made you a title favorite then West brom would win it every season because they're the tallest team in the PL.. This is football , not the WWE - who ever looked at Messi and though " that guy is decent but he will never make it because he's not tall enough ". The fact people talk about United bullying City and roughing them up just shows you nobody believes United will outplay City and are better footballers

Pep Guardiola will get your team to play attractive free flowing football, win trophies, promote young talent, develop a great team for the future, unlock potential in players they never thought they had it in them, make the players more flexible so they can cover for the players who are injured and will have a rapport with the squad. Mourinho will get your team to play ugly, bus parking, against the run of play, anti-football, win trophies, doesn't promote young players or care about building a team for the future, will throw his own players under the bus when they under-perform, falls out with the team in his 3rd season and will leave the club in a horrible state! So yeah, Guardiola is the better manager in every possible aspect!!

Bellamy is spot on! Very impressed by his arguments. Tired of hearing pep has a brilliant team all the time. Put an avg bloke as manager he is not going to achieve success as pep.

pep needs talent to make his style of play works...only thing i can say is that he cant win with the porto squad or inter squad that mourinho won with the champions league...that definitely is something...

England should be happy that Pep is coaching in England because every country that Pep coaches in, wins the world cup e.g Spain and Germany

Mourinho destroys the beauty of football. He wants to take the romance and inspiration out of football for the cost of winning. As a chelsea fan I'm grateful to Mourinho for whatever he did. But I'm definitely not grateful to the way he shoved out technically brilliant players like De bruyne and Mata ( who was the one of the best in the world at that time, look at him now). For me thus, I'd prefer Pep over Mourinho any day because I believe football should be a form of artistic expression and Pep is one of the few in the current world who has stuck to that principle and has won things as well. Mourinho is definitely a better organizer and motivater but that's not what football is about for me. Others are welcome to disagree but I believe football is art and its for bringing joy to the fans who spend their hard earned money and sacrifice time to watch their favourite teams. Conte is I think weirdly represents the a balance between the two. So COYB!

Jose greatest manager of all time

Mou won champs league with porto? Argument over

Mourinho tactically is a better manager but i simply prefer Pep especially in the long run. Look at Barca and Bayern now they are dominating their leagues and competing each year regardless of the problems of chairmans. (Barca)

The players Jose mourinho developed are still remembered today, he made mediocre teams look world class. Pep just refurbished teams which are already good. Mourinho when from scrap to gold.

This is the title decider for me. City Win = the premier league, United Win = They have a chance to win it

its pretty weird how pundits always seem to under estimate Mourinho. i actually think he likes being under appreciated.btw isnt it way too early to say Pep has succeeded in Mancity. given the stats i will say Mourinho have done far better than Pep. or am i wrong?

anyone else think bellamy speaks with such arrogance that he cannot afford himself

Mourinho is hands down the best tactician of modern times, and arguably even the best in the history of the sport. To win the Champions League with Porto is outrageous. His 04/05 Chelsea team was the greatest Premier League side in history, statistically. His 05/06 team was almost as good. He went to a struggling, ageing Inter Milan and won the treble. He then went to Madrid and led them to their first league title in years with a stunning points tally - breaking the long era of Barca dominance, as he was hired to do. He then returned to Chelsea and won the Premier League again with a mixture of gorgeous attacking football and astute defensive tactics. He revolutionised tactical approaches to the game. So many of the great current managers were heavily inspired by his style - Simeone, Conte, Sampaoli, Pochettino, etc. His tactical innovations became so unbelievably successful that the entire world of managers had to come up with a way to combat it. Tiki taka was born as a way to beat Mourinho's tactics, such was his influence. His last few years have been a bit average, but his overall career is truly great. Alongside Ferguson as an all time great.

This is how people should argue and make comparisons. Genus.

Pep is master class. Mourinho is crazy.

This shouldn't even be a debate. Pep is 100 times better than Mourinho. A manager like Mourinho who only knows one style of play 10-0-0 is not fit to be compared with Pep

2022 and still no UCL for City and Pep💯👏

Mourinho is the villain in English media but is the best manager in the prem outside of Ferguson. all these pundits despise him bc he made their playing careers hell by creating one of the best english teams ever

When Barceloan was destroyed by Bayern,it wasnt Pep the coach. Pep was on his sabatical in NY during that year and Tito was the head coach and was seriously ill unfortunately during that exact period - his cancer had return. Danny Mills needs to get his knowledge up to date. Mourinhou was the manager of RM though when they were trashed 5-0 at Bernabeu by Pep's Barca.

Re-wind the clock to 2016 before Guardiola announced that he would leave Bayern for the Man City, and before everyone knew that Mourinho was going to replace LVG at Man Utd. If there had been poll asking Man Utd fans at that time whether they wanted Guardiola or Mourinho to become their next manager, I bet that most of them would have chosen Guardiola. Both managers will guarantee trophies at a big club, but under Guardiola the team will play more attractive football. Mourinho's tactics against City were just cowardly. Plus while Guardiola falls out with big name players like Eto'o, Ibrahimovic and Hart, Mourinho's falls out with squads of players like Real Madrid when everyone hated him by the time he left and at Chelsea when the players downed tools under him in 2015/2016. So there is less negative press and publicity to deal with under Guardiola. And at Bayern, Guardiola brought in young players like Kimmich and Kingsley Coman and spent a lot of time developing them, despite knowing that he would soon leave the club and wouldn't be there for their prime years. Mourinho would never do anything like that. So Guardiola leaves clubs in better positions than Mourinho does as well.

Pep builds great teams that play some of the best and most entertaining football around, where as Mourinho grinds out wins, that aren't pretty to watch. But both managers get the job done, complete different styles though.

Many forget that Mourinho was also at Barcelona and he beat the highest points and goal tally record at Real Madrid There is a reason Deco was in Mourinho's team and Barcelona bought it

Mourinho has improved a great deal of players Varane hazard matic terry carvalho di Maria Ozil even Bailly and Jones at United

The comment section has lot of Mourinho fans but I believe these are Manchester United fans not Mourinho fans Just because he is manager of United,he is getting the Support If Pep was manager of United,the same fans in the comment section would have favoured Guardiola for playing beautiful and rebuked Mourinho for parking buses

As a football fan, i would pay to watch Guardiola's team. Mourinho's team ? Yeah, i may check the score in my phone once in a while ...

Mourinho once hailed a pragmatic genius by the English media in his first spell at Chelsea in a time when Ferguson and Arsene were in a two horse race for at least a decade. He won the treble with Porto who had Deco who was their only world class player and turned Benni McCarthy into one of the most feared strikers in Europe Brought life into the premier league with the rise of Chelsea in his first season. Took a below par Inter Milan who had Diego Milito and Lucio who were past their prime and revived Materazzi's career to win a treble in a time Barcelona,Madrid and Bayern Munich were far superior to that Inter Milan. Pep started with the Barcelona youth team with Xavi,Iniesta,Busquets and Messi. He earned his spot as manager at Barcelona when they honestly did not expect anything from them despite having Ronaldinho who was the best player on the planet overachieved and rode their luck at times against Arsenal. He knew he had to change Barcelona even if it meant getting rid of Ronadinho which is crazy to think of now and installed tiki taka as an adaption from total football which led to the rise of Barcelona for half a decade. When he moved to Bayern Munich after they just won a treble with Jupp Heyneckes who is incredibly underrated. He changed the system at Bayern which was a mistake in itself because they did not need the shift it was an already great technical team. His achievement there was improving Philip Lahm from left full back into a bonified midfield maestro. Yes he won all the domestic titles when he was there but failed to win the Champions League and will be regarded as not a failure but an unecessary luxury because they were and are managers capable of winning the Bundesliga with Bayern Munich despite the improvement of style of play. Manchester City fastfowarded the Pep effect by giving him unlimited transfer funds to buy whomever he wanted but what he did to City who had Aguero,Kompany and Toure as the spine of that already great team were not getting any younger he brought in youth even though he spent a lot of money even overspent on Bravo and Nolito. He has made City an exciting passing team didnt matter though because he didnt win the Premier league last season so he spent again this season but this time they have to win the treble to be considered successful. So Jose Mourinho is still better for me but Pep is worth a mention along with Conte,Lopetegui,Heyneckes who are also magnicifent managers. Coming from a Chelsea fan.

Pep wasn't in charge when Bayern beat them

Jose made Rojo, Jones, Smalling, Lingard, Fellaini into vital players... while all of those 5 I wanted to leave instant when José came in. All I have to say.

Tbf to Guardiola that Barcelona team he made great, Xavi thought he was gone, busquetes was a youth player, dani Alves was transformed from mediocre to world class, pique was a Man Utd failure, Messi was a world class winger but turned him into the best player in history, Valdes was a poor player but turned into a decent keeper and a good ball player. And for Bayern he turned Boateng world class, made lahm a world class midfielder he made javi Martinez a world class centre back from a good midfielder. There are countless other cases with players who have been vastly improved and therefore made these team the best players in the world.

I want to see Pep and Mou manage teams like Frankfurt, Crystal Palace, Bologna or Las Pamas.

I'm a united fan and I think peps the better tactical manager

Pep won the treble and the CL with Barca.Mourinho never even reached the CL final with Real Madrid and look how many CL Real won after Mourinho left.And look how Ancelloti struggled at Bayern which supposedly was the easiest job.

Bellamy hit the nail on the head for every point. Should be on more often.

actually, in spite of all the negative comments, in spite of these 2 lads' reasonably successful carriers, but often unintelligent outbursts on & off the pitch, both of' em show great maturity, good reasoning & perception in expressing their opinions

It's like CRonaldo (Jose) vs Messi (Pep). 90% of people with no bias choose Messi (Pep) without hesitation.

man utd fan choosing jose...i remembered how they were crying when pep become man city coach. everybody want pep to be their manager but jealousy cant let them accept it..

Well said Craig top man..

hi Craig interesting programme, as a coach I have a question here for you,what about if both coaches swap teams,I know that pep will play the same style of football but for Jose I don't know about that.

This question is just very skewed towards the manager that plays attacking football. It's like asking who they think is better: an architect or an engineer. Sure the architect paints the pretty pictures, but the engineer gets the job done and does the nitty gritty. For me Mourinho is serial winner. And that's what makes a great manager. At the end of the day 3 points is 3 points. And Mourinho knows how to get those points... Consistently.... Also, I don't see why people are praising Pep Guardiolla as if, man-for-man, City haven't had the best squad in the league for the past 4/5 years. All theyre doing is living up to your potential 👏👏. I'm not deluded I know Pep is a great manager, but Mourinho is a different level

Mills was wrong on two points: 1. The Actress's Inter Milan team was packed with star players. And he added Lucio, Sneijder and Eto'o for the Treble season. Since there was no one to challenge them they strolled to the Serie A title and Italian Cup. All they had to do was turn up for the UCL games. And they cheated and got favourable decisions in the Semi-Final against Barcelona. 2. The Actress has improved players. She hasn't done it as much as other coaches such as his eternal nemesis, Guardiola or Klopp or Conte.

Finally an actual debate. A lot former players and media personalities on this debate show just agree with each other. At least in this segment they actually had a debate

3-4years ago, would have said Mourihno. Now will lean slightly towards Pep. My only concern with Pep is, he's never coached a team you don't expect much from to make them the best. Mourihno on the other hand proved himself with Porto, Inter, & Chelsea, who not many expected much from at the time he took over. Manchester City has been winning trophies the last 10years. I want to see what Pep can do with a team like Spurs, AC Milan, Lyon, or even Atletico Madrid. That will let us know if he's indeed the best coach in the world or just the coach that plays the best football

I'm a die hard United fan, but Pep miles ahead better than Jose. That's a reality.

Craig Bellamy is on this show all the time get someone better

Jose Mourinho is a great manager

Hypothetical question: who would win more titles and cups with an average squad of players? For me Mourinho all day long - he knows how to grind out 1:0 wins, “Finals are not for playing, they are for winning,” said Mourinho pretty much sums up all... He knows what it takes to win and he is going to do whatever it takes and can do it with lesser teams... For me, I cannot imagine Guardiola taking Inter Milan with a squad that Mourinho had to the finals let alone to win the whole thing... Here is Mourinho's eleven from 2010 Champions league final: Cesar, Maicon, Lucio, Samuel, Chivu, Zanetti, Sneijder, Cambiasso, Eto'o, Milito, Pandev can you tell me what happened to "stars" like Pandev, Chivu or Milito after he left? Did Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munchen and others try to sign them? No because they were not the best players in the world....

The only thing I'm wondering is how's Pep still alive, he's been up the pundits's a$$ for a year, how is he still breathing?! Jose has proven himself everywhere he went and he can work what any squad and make it successful. Pep on the other hand, unless he has the best of the best, he won't do much. This is shown in Bayern and City last year.

mourinho is good at getting results,motivating and winning trophies but if you want everything perfect i.e. playing attractive football and not disrespecting the opposition etc then pep!

Bellamy talked that Inter had the championship by Christmas and had to focus on UCL.....So why didn't Bayern with Pep??

11101 said: ↑ Said it elsewhere but Guardiola would not have brought in the players we needed to form the core of our team. How he plays now is irrelevant, he would never get us to that point. He has always had the core of the team already in place for him. City’s fullbacks when Pep arrived in 2016 were Zabaleta, Sagna, Clichy and Kolarov. All past their prime. Joe Hart was the goalkeeper. Grandpa Toure was still a starter in midfield. Bony, Fernando and Mangala all had over 30 appearances in the previous season. That City team needed far more rebuilding than most people want to admit.

Mourinho doesn't develop players at all ,only wins with better players Guardiola develops players Messi had not won the Ballon'dor before Pep had joined Barcelona,he improved Messi as well Under Pep ,Messi won 4 Ballon'dor Without Pep,only 1

Mourinho's biggest achievement is being compared to Pep Guardiola!

Craig Bellamy is a legend. I loved watching him play football, back from the Coventry days. Seems like he talks a good game too. Hope to see him managing a team soon.

The question in the title honestly can't be taken seriously😂😂😂

I rather watch attacking fotball in a one of game then bus parking

For me,Mourinho is better coz he is more unpredictable than Pep like who would have thought that the clubs with average amount of money and star players like Inter and Porto would win the UCL?

Craig is very logical. He suggests the points of Pep's strengths and his performance eg. improvements in Sterling and KDB.

Mourinho spent all that money last season and finished 6th. Year before he was sacked by Chelsea for their worst ever start and found himself in the bottom half of the table. No comparison here.

Both are cheque book managers, but at least mourinho has shown he can win without large amounts of money.

Guardiola created possibly the greatest club team to ever play football from an average team he inherited that finished third in a two horse race in La liga. On the other hand, Mourinho won champions league with lowly Porto and not so great Inter teams. I seriously can't decide who'll go down as better. Their spells in Manchester may be the tiebreaker?

The reason Pep doesn't do well with older players is because his style of plays demands extraordinary physical fitness. Whereas parking the bus can be done very well with experienced (30+) players.

hang on a second was that yoga speaking or Craig Bellamy what a wise dude loool

if i were a pro player, id end up a much better player for pep for 5 years, compared to playing for Jose for 5 years.

I'd love to play under mourinho cause he can win everywhere and he can win it just fine!

This is simple, when Murinho won with Porto and went to Chelsea it was all about him and he destroyed SAF, and every other manager and a team, when Pep won everything with Barca he just became and stayed that coach, nothing else after that for a long time, common

"If you dont lose you got a good chance of winning" Good one Danny

Guardiola, is the best ever, He really is great 👍 He knows his system and he is so clever to play with any team, He is just amazing 😉 💕 😇 😘 🙏

Pep all day every day!

As a liverpool fan i want to see mourinho stay as manager of man Utd! This is the best comedy ive seen for years ! Thank you jose for replacing the Arsen wenger show

It's a very tight question but statically Man City recently have been winning the league every other season !! So it's no surprise there running away with the league , pep was shocking last season gone out and spent ridulous amount of money and is seeing the results what do you expect , mourinho has won champions leagues with Porto and inter and there's no way pep could of done that

GUARDIOLA

Angry angry united fans

I agree why have too former players from City you could of had a Neville with a former player of City

Mourinho has pretty much stopped man united's free fall on his own and has them as a solid team again, Pep inheritied a great squad and spent 500m to upgrade it. Such a 'genius'