Who is WR2: Malik Nabers or Rome Odunze?

Who is WR2: Malik Nabers or Rome Odunze? | PFF

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3 ай бұрын

PFF's Steve Palazzolo and Sam Monson discuss who they think is WR2 Rome Odunze or Malik Nabers.
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@basedlord88 Ай бұрын

Separation numbers: (stop basing scouting on a handful of highlight reels) 3.54- Xavier Worthy 3.25- Ricky Pearsall 3.03- Xavier Leggette 3.00- AD Mitchell 2.86- Rome Odunze 2.72- Marvin Harrison Jr. 2.59- Malik Nabers 2.58- Brian Thomas Jr 2.26- Keon Coleman Rome got better separation than both Napiers and MHJ, his highlights are full of contested catches cuz those are the best for highlights, people act like experts with no ball knowledge just watching a 2 min reel

@aidanschulz 2 ай бұрын

Bears should draft Rome and then he can work with Keenan and DJ Moore on his route running. No ones better to teach him that’s currently in the league

@hofftipus4132 Ай бұрын

As a Bears fan I'd be happy with any of them. As it is, I'm thrilled to have Odunze!

@basedlord88 Ай бұрын

Separation average in cfb last year: 3.54- Xavier Worthy 3.25- Ricky Pearsall 3.03- Xavier Leggette 3.00- AD Mitchell 2.86- Rome Odunze 2.72- Marvin Harrison Jr. 2.59- Malik Nabers 2.58- Brian Thomas Jr 2.26- Keon Coleman

@lorenrich2525 3 ай бұрын

All i know is Rome played against Jaylon Johnson, Christian Gonzalez,Jack Jones and lined up against trent Mcduffie in college practices and played against all-pros in college

@ryansmith290 2 ай бұрын

Sir, Jaylon Johnson has been in the league for 4 years (drafted in 2020). Odunze didn't even start college until fall of 2020. They never faced each other.

@lorenrich2525 2 ай бұрын

@@ryansmith290 sir, it still doesn’t take away from my point, do you want me to throw in Clark phillips ???… the Pac-12 is producing sooo many talented CB’s…. Rome is battle tested, played against REAL comp

@blacksheepmiracle1433 3 ай бұрын

Lol at "if Odunze, make it to the Jets at #10". No waaaay, the Bears pass on him, if he's still there at #9. Jets would need a trade up.

@williamhermann6635 2 ай бұрын

As a Packer fan, I HOPE the Bears draft Odunze. It would be the typical bonehead move the Bears are known for.

@triplea8636 2 ай бұрын

Well, this aged like wine

@OhNoTwisted 3 ай бұрын

MH & Nabers are likely better between the 20s, but Odunze will probably be the best RZ and EZ target in this class. And I don't think it's close. So if you want to move up the field and get big plays? MH & Nabers are your guys. If you want to score TDs in the RZ, Odunze will likely be leaps and bounds better.

@CallaRan24 2 ай бұрын

You can get big plays by Rome mossing dudes 45 yards down the field

@pauliej345 2 ай бұрын

Im gonna go on a limb and say hes at best a #2 wr in the NFL. I dont see enough speed or separation. seems more of a contested catch possession wr. I think he should be drafted in 2nd - 3rd realistically. Keon Coleman is similar player who runs a 4.6 and i see Coleman with more separation and hes borderline 1st rd guy who prob is better place in rd 2. I would draft Nabers, Harrison, Thomas, and Leggette over Odunze in a second

@michaelehaddad2659 Ай бұрын

@@pauliej345 He runs a sub 4.4 40 at 6'3 212. That's elite for his size. I was skeptical until we drafted him but I'm anymore. All around good at everything and elite at splash plays, contested catches, and route running. The WR1 in most drafts will be really good with the potential to be elite.

@pauliej345 Ай бұрын

@michaelehaddad2659 he ran 4.45 at his pro day where guys usually run better then the combine. He just doesn't separate well at all. I do think with Moore , Allen, and Kmet he's in a good place to get a lot of 1on1s with smaller nickel corners which should help his game until he learns to run routes better

@borntobehated1758 3 ай бұрын

Nabers wins at all 3 levels and even utilizes his speed with YAC, he’s still learning how to shake defenders with his route running, he has a chance to be the best out of the 3

@123shoshan 3 ай бұрын

Ad Mitchell is better than nabers and nabers is much better than Rome

@jessicabergie1181 3 ай бұрын

ad mitchell is a bum

@dewanewelch1744 3 ай бұрын

Nabers can't play outside though.

@borntobehated1758 3 ай бұрын

@@dewanewelch1744 he definitely can play outside, he can play inside and outside with his speed

@rzawistowski33 3 ай бұрын

I see it like Nabers gets you big plays(Odell), Odunze gets you 1st downs(Fitz)

@Sakitsura 3 ай бұрын

Opposite?

@RKGrizz 3 ай бұрын

I would love to see a point by point side by side comparison between Harrison and Odunze. I honestly don't think there is much that Harrison is objectively better at than Odunze. Similar size, speed, athleticism, ball tracking, yac, etc.

@LC-ue1jh 3 ай бұрын

Harrison is better at all of it by a considerable margin tbh

@RKGrizz 3 ай бұрын

@@LC-ue1jhwhat do you mean by all of it if they are same age, size, comparable athletes and similar production?

@LC-ue1jh 3 ай бұрын

@@RKGrizzHarrison is better speed athleticism ball tracking and yac also he's got more size he's 6'4 vs 6'3 quite literally at everything ur comment was just wrong which was weird

@RKGrizz 3 ай бұрын

@@LC-ue1jh Harrison isn't 6'4 though... and Odunze has a 9.92 RAS which is basically as good as it gets.

@LC-ue1jh 3 ай бұрын

@@RKGrizz Harrison is 6'4

@Snowboarder16 3 ай бұрын

Nabors is the better player. And Chris Simms is wrong most of the time. He said that Zach Wilson would be better than Trevor Lawrence!

@winstonsyme5899 3 ай бұрын

No. He is right more often.

@magmax76 3 ай бұрын

Simms 2022 wr rankings were terrible. He had Jamo and Christian Watson 1 & 2 ahead of Olave at #5 and didn't have Garrett Wilson even in his top 5 😂

@lordtryforce 3 ай бұрын

I remember last season when he ranked the edge rushers. He ranked Will Anderson Jr. as the 5th Best. Kid ended up being the defensive rookie the year.

@onetime3137 3 ай бұрын

He said Christine Michael is a probowler😂

@GeorgeVreelandHill 2 ай бұрын

Malik Nabers is the WR1 in this draft. His career in the NFL will be even better.

@troybenson5767 2 ай бұрын

I think he will fill the void in NY that OBJ left there and has yet to be filled since.

@dder5 3 ай бұрын

Malik Nabers is WR1

@thevoxdeus 3 ай бұрын

Nabers is probably more dynamic, but as a Bears fan I want Odunze. He feels like a more "foundational" WR.

@123shoshan 3 ай бұрын

Adonai Mitchell is better than both of them

@timregalado1677 3 ай бұрын

Odunze is likely a better compliment to dj moore as well

@djkevgar 3 ай бұрын

@@timregalado1677yes nabers plays a lot like moore

@timregalado1677 3 ай бұрын

We're all about to find out if the falcons are capable of drafting a defensive player in the first round. tbh wouldn't be mad if they took odunze here

@pfireintenze 6 күн бұрын

welp

@iurunner34 3 ай бұрын

Anyone with eyeballs knows it's Malik Nabers but Nabers character concerns make it more of a conversation. In this day and age, the media wont say it's a character concern though. You have the Giants at 6 who have the Plaxico situation, OBJ shenanigans, DeAndre Baker, Toney. The media doesnt want us to be surprised when the Giants finally get wise to avoid problem people.

@magmax76 3 ай бұрын

I haven't heard anything about his character. What isn't being said that we should know.

@iurunner34 3 ай бұрын

@@magmax76 google his arrests

@joserentas8294 3 ай бұрын

What character problem?

@andrecastillo2612 3 ай бұрын

@@joserentas8294got caught with an illegal firearm

@moqurban10 3 ай бұрын

If Nabers is sitting there at 6 giants taking him

@evanchristensen5200 Ай бұрын

I’m drafting both MHJ and Nabers in dynasty this year

@tdbowenmusic 3 ай бұрын

Odunzes game will translate and have a better shelf life.

@irvgotti9271 2 ай бұрын

These dudes are hilarious

@stevekaufmann8109 2 ай бұрын

they just copied what steve smith said a few weeks ago

@joserentas8294 3 ай бұрын

I think LSU receivers are doing just fine in the NFL

@turneryoung905 21 күн бұрын

Odunze is the most complete WR in a longggggg time. Longer, faster, skinnier Larry Fitzgerald or if JaMarr Chase was 6’3

@onetime3137 3 ай бұрын

Nabers shakes 👇 THEN HE BAKES !!!! SHAKE & BAKE !!! GET SOME !!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@miltonalbright1606 3 ай бұрын

Well speed dose help six foot he needs speed milt

@Swerve-Online 3 ай бұрын

Marv is 2. NABORS IS WR1.

@wferomega 3 ай бұрын

Why is all the talk about separation when there are numerous ways WRs could be useful and good in the nfl. Like leap into the air to take the ball out of the sky in the back corner of the end zone is just as important today, or no? Isnt that a way that Odunze could translate into the nfl quite easily? Guess it is just me thinking of other ways a wr can be dominant besides speed or separation and seeing that in Odunze I think he will be pretty good out of the gates and also has room to improve. I think certain teams would benefit from Nabers more. And vice versa The Giants have a very short nfl wr room imo. They have basically a 6 ft room that isn't about going up and getting contested big catches. And probably won't have a qb that can zip that it into the extra yard of separation window for an easy completion. That team would benefit from Odunze more imo. At the end of the day, any team that gets to draft the top 3 of MHJ Nabers Odunze, will be ecstatic

@MattPeters80 3 ай бұрын

It is fair to say that Odunze's absence of stellar separation could get him to fall into the teens a little bit. I find it hard to believe there's 3 teams inside the top 10 willing to use their pick on a WR. Odunze is the clear odd man out because contested catch guys who have separation concerns historically have bigger bust potential. I like Odunze, but he needs to turn his concern into a strength. I know he can separate and has all the cutting ability to be a great route runner, but I think he plays a little too finesse for his size with a, as you said, fairly basic understanding of route running. I want to see him use his hands more to create separation during routes. He currently only uses his hands to separate at the last second. You have to constantly manage the DBs hands or he'll be there grabbing all game long. He let's DBs hand guard and anchor onto him without contest. He runs routes like he's a 4.3 guy, when he's just a 4.45 guy. Give him some Michael Thomas and Demaryius Thomas tape and let him grow into playing bigger on his routes. Those guys never let DBs put hands on them without a fight. RIP to a legend.

@stevekaufmann8109 2 ай бұрын

nabers is electric it's hard to pass on that game breaking ability

@digitalhunter42 3 ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s a good idea, but I really would love if the Lions moved up to take a top 3 WR.

@megatuan01 3 ай бұрын

………

@miltonalbright1606 3 ай бұрын

How tall are these two guys Milton

@joshuamiranda4266 3 ай бұрын

odunze is almost 6,4 nabers is 6’0

@syntaxghost3547 Ай бұрын

DJ Moore WR 1 Rome WR2 KAllen slot

@rexgoodheart3471 3 ай бұрын

Silly discussion. Nabers is WR1, and any team that drafts Harrison over Nabers will regret it.

@theamreinshow 2 ай бұрын

While true, you quite simply can’t draft Nabers over MHJ. With the consensus around MHJ, if he flops, it’s just bad luck. If you take Nabers at WR1, and he flops, the ridicule you’ll face for being an idiot will ruin you as a GM forever.

@dlemieux9405 3 ай бұрын

Odunze disrespect is wild. His route running is phenomenal and 4.45 is plenty fast enough for ANY wr in the NFL. ALSO BIGGER AND STRONGER than nabers or Harrison.

@d_rod3 3 ай бұрын

No disrespect to Rome, but phenomenal is STRETCH lol.

@truehype 3 ай бұрын

His game play speed is faster than his 40 time would have you think. He's an extremely smooth athlete as well.

@mitch8508 3 ай бұрын

His route running sucks. Gets no separation

@shr3dnasty707 3 ай бұрын

His route running is not that good idk what you’re seeing

@Jeremy-ko2pe 3 ай бұрын

I really like Odunze as a prospect but his route running is not phenomenal and he doesn’t get separation. He’s got amazing hands and body control for contested catch situations.

@OGTirpleOG 2 ай бұрын

Heres my comp for them Nabers = taller steve smith sr. Rome = faster deandre hopkins

@ThatBigCactus 2 ай бұрын

Horrible comparisons lmfao

@SanMan2k5 2 ай бұрын

Giants drafting Odunze 1st round Penix 2nd round or trade back into the 1st to get Penix

@KOTJ412 2 ай бұрын

Nabers for me! Cos I’ve seen a lot of LSU games than Wash games to know he’s a legit going to be a star WR in the NFL! But Rome has game too.🤙🏾

@johnthe_don 3 ай бұрын

Nabers is the best of the 3. Are you people blind???

@andyc312 3 ай бұрын

Nabers!

@kiko4675 3 ай бұрын

1.Nabers 2. MHJ 3. Brian Thomas Jr

@doctormix6569 3 ай бұрын

Giants motto is smart, tough, dependable that is odunze. Nabers and mhj have a hint of diva so if you don’t get them there numbers you will hear about it. I would be happy with any of them just saying.

@borntobehated1758 3 ай бұрын

And I’ll tell you rn daboll prefers WR who are fast and seperate over contested catch receivers who rely on catch radius, if you give daboll and schoen the option of the 3 they’re going to pick nabers everytime

@Lyfe2Shortz 3 ай бұрын

Rome for sure. He played in an nfl pro offense and his game translates more to the nfl. Doesn’t run by every single defender (which you never will in the nfl unless your Tyreek) and is still effective

@d_rod3 3 ай бұрын

It's impossible to say who will be better... But Rome played in the Pac-12. Doesn't touch the SEC. Nabers created space against better defenses. Rome is going to be an excellent possession receiver. But you still need to create space at the next level

@Silencer21 3 ай бұрын

1. Nabers 2. MHJ 3. Thomas jr. 4. Odunze

@AstroStoner 3 ай бұрын

Boy you smoking putting Thomas jr ahead of Odunze

@123shoshan 3 ай бұрын

Thomas is the worst receiver in draft

@123shoshan 3 ай бұрын

@@AstroStonerAdonai Mitchell Ladd worthy and many others are better than Brian thomas

@graysonbuttercheeks3136 3 ай бұрын

Odunze….no twitch. Lots of contested catches. Can’t get separation= no YAC.

@williamhermann6635 2 ай бұрын

Odunze isnt even the 3rd best receiver in this class. I'm taking MHJ, Nabers, or BTJ over him and I wouldnt take Odunze in the first round at all. Separation is king in the nfl. Odunze is Nkeal Harry 2.0.

@InvalidUsername2113 Ай бұрын

This screams "I don't know ball. I just watch highlights."

@williamhermann6635 Ай бұрын

@@InvalidUsername2113 And your comment screams "i have no argument but I'll talk shit anyways cuz im a fanboy and i just cant help myself"

@InvalidUsername2113 Ай бұрын

@@williamhermann6635 lol no. That's you projecting. Check Rome's route tree success compare it to the others you mentioned then get back to me. Check out his average separation compared to the others you mentioned then get back to me. Check, yards, tds, contested catch rate, success versus 1 on 1 man then get back to me and let me know if I don't have a argument, friend. You're completely entitled to your opinion...but your opinion is wrong and seems not very evidenced based.

@williamhermann6635 Ай бұрын

@@InvalidUsername2113Act like dickhead, get treated like one

@sharendavis9216 8 күн бұрын

@@InvalidUsername2113bro never came back 😂