They always have in everything I'd watched on subject on British TV anyways

Not forgetting Bill Tutte, who did the maths that formed the basis for that computer.

Colossus and Tutte’s work were for the Lorenz cipher machine, not Enigma.

And not forgetting Mabel the tea lady who had a big part in beating the Germans. Who cares after all these years.

Space bar stuck Baz?

I have his book. Not forgotten

@@SW-qr8qejust looked him up. I’m seeking the book out. Thanks

And who was the truly great of this bunch who invented signals intelligence and moved to America. Much of that contribution is still secret.

It's one thing to know how it worked, it's another to decode messages received in the 24 hour period before the settings were changed.

He betrayed himself

@@davidrennie8197 No. You deny his self. Get your shunning priorities in a bunch.

@@lewiscoacher7781 Is English your first language or was that some new WokeSpeak?:) He went out of his way to get arrested after paying a man for sex. He possibly died via stupid accident instead of suicide

@@davidrennie8197 He got arrested due to antiquated laws that demonised ALL Gay People. And he didn't pay for sex, you have lied there. In reality, Turing met a 19-year-old named Arnold Murray in Manchester. Their relationship involved sexual encounters. However, Murray stole money from Turing, and suspicion fell on him during a burglary at Turing’s house. Turing reported the burglary but gave the police a wrong description, which ultimately led to his undoing. He was arrested and later admitted to “acts of gross indecency” during his trial. As a result, he underwent chemical castration, a treatment involving anaphrodisiac drugs to reduce libido and sexual activity. Also, Prof Jack Copeland argues the evidence should be taken at face value - that an accidental death is certainly consistent with all the currently known circumstances. The problem, he complains, is that the investigation was conducted so poorly that even murder cannot be ruled out. An "open verdict", recognising this degree of ignorance, would be his preferred position. None of this excuses the treatment of Turing during his final years, says Prof Copeland. I suggest you learn the truth and stop lying and showing you are homophobic.

You are absolutely correct. The Polish contribution was essential to the outcome of WW2.

Of course! Poland was swallowed by USSR and not part of the West after WW2. So the Americans took credit because they had the money...

And not just on this subject. I think it could easily be said that the Poles really took it in the yarbles during WWII from all sides. Sure they were our allies and their invasion really got the ball rolling, but they were treated pretty shabbily. Especially taking their contributions into account.

They built analog computers called "bombas" with which to do calculations, and this was pre WW2. They are indeed the unsung heroes of Enigma code breaking.

@jonnsmusich: "... So the Americans took credit because they had the money..." Seems your parents didn't have the money for your proper schooling. Alan Turing and Bletchley Park are British, not American.

It is annoying, and probably makes it hard for non native English speakers to understand.

So many videos are ruined by this awful background music. I had to give up.

It's not only revolting, it's patronizing, as if we need that noise to tell us this is fascinating stuff.

Some artsy self-entitled editor put the music on the background because of his/her quite large Ego.

@@robertmclean3951 Not to mention the countless videos with "special effects" like shaking, zooming, flashing you name it.

There's still a bit of work to reverse engineer the Enigma device, once a working sample is acquired.

This narrative is entirely fake, both sides of the war were working to precisely the same plan (kill as many humans as possible). Why do we always fall for their lies eh?

As I recall from reading "The Ultra Secret", published in 1975, the Polish group started with commercial versions of the machine produced by Scherbius & RItter, Gmbh. Those versions had two cylinders, the German government/military adopted a three cylinder version by the outbreak of WWII, which evolved into a four, then five cylinder version by the end of the war.

This is not true. You may want to read a record of actually happened. It is not a secret anymore.

Yes there is an account of how this took place by a Polish gentleman on KZfaq somewhere. He explained that this package was due to be delivered to the German Embassy, but it arrived too late on a Friday as the Polish Post Office had already closed for the weekend.. The German diplomats made strenuous representations to the Polish authorities about it, but the Polish refused their requests by saying that it wouldn't be delivered until after the weekend, which gave them the time to open it and examine the machine. I'm not sure that the fact that it arrived by train was an error as such as theoretically at least it was a diplomatic package that normally shouldn't have been opened by anyone other than a German member of staff at their Embassy.

What is sad is according to the history books I’ve read, the Polish military was very poorly treated by the British and often scapegoated for British failures. Super sad to me - and I’m a damn yank 😊

Alan Turing acknowledged it in the very minimalist terms allowed by security

This narrative is entirely fake, both sides of the war were working to precisely the same plan (kill as many humans as possible). Why do we always fall for their lies eh?

Britain declared war because of Germany's invasion of Poland. It had zero chance of winning a war against Russia when the war was over and Russia occupied Poland. Britain did support the polish government in exile till around 1987 when democracy returned to Poland. The government in exile was then disbanded and official polish seals were returned.

Incorrect ill informed whinnying

Poland was just the ruse that Churchill used to declare war on Germany, On the orders of his paymasters, certain ‘bankers’ from the City of London.

Hitler had signed a Peace Treaty with Russia but then; Invaded Russia, Operation Barbarossa. Russia was THE key enemy of the Nazis and instrumental in winning WW2. Churchill invited Stalin to remain in the countrise occupied in the push to Berlin. Stalin agreed, in part because Russia had been invaded so many times before as well as the USA rebuilding western Europe while Russia rebuilt the East. FDR didn't like Truman , he preferred his previous VP; Wallace and so do I. Churchill and Truman got their Cold War, JFK was negotiating to end it but that credit was given to someone preferred by the wealth class; Reagan. It was Gorbachev who deserved the credit however .

*dud = failure. Dude = male person.

@@1258-Eckhart Get to the point......... the point that matters.

Wtf are you saying, what betrayal??

@@davidtuer5825 ask a Pole.

@@alexbowman7582 NO, you're the one i responded to. You spoke of a betrayal. YOU explain.

@@davidtuer5825 we left them under Russian Stalin communism. We had a treaty with them and broke it allowing Russia to occupy Poland. It’s more than likely Churchill permitted the NKVD to murder Polish leader in exile Sikorski and his entourage in Gibraltar disguised as a plane crash to prevent Sikorski making public a dossier he had received in Egypt from a German spy on the massacres of 21,000 Polish officers by the Russians.

Which betrayal?

Never heard about that. Can you tell more ?

Britain went to war because of Poland. How much better do you want ?

@@andym9571 Went to war, but then sacrificed them to the Russians. Remember it was both Germans and Russian who invaded Poland. It was Russia who kept Poland.

We did sacrifice our best young men, our economy, empire and post-war economic success to assist Poland. Having completely destroyed our country and ended up bankrupt, I'm not sure what more we could have done for a war we could easily have dodged by signing a pact with Hitler and simply sitting it out on our island.

@@chairmakerPete Churchill knew eventually Hitler was going to come across the Channel. It is better to fight him with allies still standing than after they have all fallen. That is why Great Britain was allied with France and Poland. The Soviets were a bloody mess at the end of the war without the Wests assistance millions more Soviets would have died. Churchill and Roosevelt should have insisted on the liberation of all Eastern European nations completely free to choose their own paths. The Soviets were in no position to push back. The US had the atomic bombs there was no reason not to push to free Eastern Europe except apathy.

@@matthewhuszarik4173 Unfortunately Britain could do nothing about Poland's fate after WW2. Churchill tried but it was to be decided by the Soviets

They built on what the Poles had done. With the UK Post Office engineers they went on to build the first computers for running through all the combinations necessary to get the day's settings. And then shipped that technology to the Americans because they had the power to manufacture lots of machines. So: From Poland to America via England.

The work on Enigma in Poland started in September 1932 and the code was broken in December 1932. The work continued for the next seven years.

Poland knew. You can not gather a million army from 3 sides of Poland and Polish people can not see it? Germany changed the code of Enigma a few months before the attack

You must be joking. The Poles have never liked or trusted any Russian Govt, the Soviets or the Tsars. The Russian Bear was only interested in itself,.

Poland had only regained its independence after the 1917 revolution and WWI. There was no way they would invite the Russians. Stalin was in power by 1930 and the Poles knew exactly what he was up to.

Completely aware of the Polish contribution to breaking Enigma ; most good documentaries highlight the fact . However , it’s never too much to remind us all of their ground work which enabled others to advance. “ if I have seen further it’s because I stood on the shoulders of giants “/