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Forget Aegon, but seeing Sunfyre crash like an airplane was rough

Nobody won, and that is the point of this whole show.

Figuring out why Alyn shaves his head and facial hair was rough enough! We were rooting for you Corlys!! 😂

I love the smile Aegon had when he was petting Sunfyre!! I was pure bliss. He would have been happy to just be the queens brother and a dragon rider. Crazy how his elders plans ruin his life. Only his dad knew what was good for him and the lands, but every thought he was just old.

To Rhaenys and Meleys 🌹

Jessica, “Drunk dragonning” I lost it! LOL!

We also can't forget that Vhagar was the dragon of Visenya originally, so Vhagar is battle tested.

I was screaming at Rhaenys to leave and when she turned around the first time I was like okay now leave and when she turned around a second time I accepted her fate 🤦🏽 😡 😢😂

I think Rharnys knew a one on one fight with Vhagar was unwinnable, but she had too much honor to run from a fight. Still, she nearly inflicted enough damage to make it out of their trap. Sadness.

27:07 that nudge from Sunfyre made my whole ass day lmao big “you silly fuck what are you getting us into now” vibes. You could tell in that one scene how much Sunfyre was ride or die for Aegon and how strong their bond was.

Vhagar is the oldest dragon on the show and was Visenya's, Agon the conqueror's warrior sister/wife. Visenya becomes more of a sneaky character after he and their other sister/wife die, and as she ages. So it makes sense why Vhagar is a careful ambush hunter.

I knew what was coming but I’m still devastated 😢

It’s so crazy how the smallest choices in the past could have changed everything. Like Laena dying cause if she still had Vhagar the greens would be screwed.

It's all pyrrhic victory, a Queen who doesn't have a drop of Targaryen blood started its civil war. An ambitious family who always felt secondary and unloved by a King started this war.

Daemon is going full King Lear and I'm 100% here for it

The maid with the brows aka Larys' plant, is visible behind Rhaneyra and Darklyn as they are walking through Kings Landing toward the Sept, so Larys may very well know about the meeting.

Rhaenys was one of my favorite characters so that really hit me hard and if Laenor comes back it’s really gonna be sad that she didn’t get to know that he’s alive before she died.

I feel like Rhaenys thinks she could take Vhaegar and Aemond with her. I don't think she had any delusion of beating them in a 1v1, but she hoped she could take them with her.

"this meeting could've been a raven" is hilarious

Kingmaker is a reference to the real Earl or Warwick, Richard Neville, during the War of the Roses. He orchestrated the York's victory getting Edward IV on the throne. He eventually fell out of favor, switched sides, and was executed. It's not a perfect comparison, but still

That one was DEFINITELY rough..😢

LARS SAYING TO ALYSSENT: "COMEON BABY, GIVE ME SOME OF THAT TOE JAM!" LOL!!!!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

Rhaenys knew Meleys was too injured to out speed Vhagar and retreat, so she knew they were dead either way. That prompted her to go out as a true Targaryen, in battle on the back of her dragon.

I think Aegon is still alive! In the post show where they talk about the episode, one of the guys said “We don’t know Aegon’s condition”

Thank you for bringing the dagger up Brandon! I knew you were my favorite for a reason! Lol! I think there's going to be a turncoat switcharoo, Aemond already saw the prophecy in the dagger and SURPRISE! he switches sides.. It was kind of dark but unless I am mistaken, Mayleis and Sunfyre were grappling and Aemond took out his brother via a quick blast of fire from Vhaegar? Or am I crazy?

The scenes Aegon and Rhaenys have with their dragons is so cute lol

I like Aegons dragon, Sunfyre, the most. So beautiful and majestic in gold.

Gwayne is what the military folk call a "haircut"

Is Alys Rivers even real? Unless I missed something I don’t think she ‘s interacted with any other character and no one else has acknowledged her presence. What if Alys Rivers is a manifestation of a victim of the burning of Harrenhal?

Daemon takes the cup but won’t eat the peas. LOL!

I needed this laughter after working overnight. I love the Aftershow! 👏❤️

I kind of like that Gwayne hates Criston lol!

I seriously needed a second after seeing all that...

I’m really upset that I just found this channel, but also super happy!! You guys are so much fun to watch! Just as knowledgeable if not more so than so many of these other GoT and HotD review channels but nowhere near as serious about the content!! You can tell you guys really enjoy it! This was a breath of fresh air, and I laughed so hard! Instant sub.

Baby Daddy Cole... knocked up Ray Ray and Alicent!

Did Aemond wait because he knew his rash brother would show up after the dressing down he gave him? And he was his actual target. Would he have killed him with his sword if what's his face didn't wake up?

I know condoms don’t exist in that world but the pull out method is universal. They should try it sometime.

I LOVE this episode, the energy and vibe is great and I laughed out loud A LOT 😂😂😂

This Meeting could'a been a raven !..... HAHAHAHHAHAAAA

With Aemond, at least, we know that the carpet MATCHES the drapes😂😂😂

Poor Rhaenys n Meleys man watching her fall was tough but in all honesty she seemed to know this was gunna happen when she volunteered for the fight. N was Aegon dead they didn't make that clear.

Makes me happy when both Brandon and Zach are on the show.

Everyone needs an Axel impersonation in their life!!!😅

Spoiler but Sunfyre does fly again, he also kills two more dragons after that fight

Vermithor was bonded with King Jahaerys. Silverwing was bonded to Queen Alysanne.

10:32 Nah. Dad looked 60, Son looked 45. Makes sense

FYI I’m pretty sure cpr does exist or at least we know during the time of game of thrones it does. Robbs wife tells him a story about her brother who almost drown in the rhoyne. She pulls him out and thinks he is dead, but a slave pushes on his chest repeatedly and he coughs up a bunch of water

Vhagar is a female, this is really bothering me so much lol I'm so sick of people saying he like no SHE is a bad ass dragon !!

Melisandre, guys. But all the M named women are as confusing as the Targaryen family tree

Funny how people be praising Cole and Aemond for their battle strategies, but they were all up in arms criticizing Daemon for his planning at the end of season 1. If people were listening to him, Rhaenyra would be already sitting on the throne now. And with not as many people dead either, or dragons. A lot of Daemons inner conflicts steam from people not listening to him. If Rhaenyra showed a bit more trust, we wouldn't be here wondering where his coin is landing.

Are we not gonna talk about how Aemon attacked Aegon to make him crash? Did I see it wrong??

Damn I really hoped that Laenor or Rhaenyra at least came to Rhaenys to talk about the fake death, so she could get some closure about her ONLY SON before the Dance of Dragons took off. Rhaenys didn't deserve to be lied to, cheated on, ignored constantly then used as canon fodder.

The fact Aemond wasn’t even wearing armor!!

I did not read the books, but I thought both Alan and Adam are Corliss's sons and they know it.

Am I the only one that took it as rhenys purposely sacrificing herself and taking one for the team? I feel like that’s why she locked herself in and went back. She knew the war was gonna get bad and felt bad after Aegon went down. She knew she didn’t want to see everything go down and possibly get worse. So instead she went back to injure Vhagar for her to be easier to take down in the future. That’s why she kept telling Melys to attack not just fire.

Something that doesn't come up but could inform things, Jacaerys, Lucerys, and Joffrey DO have Velaryon blood, and Corlys also has Targaryen blood, which is where Adam and Alyn get the dragon blood from. Targaryens and Velaryons have been intermarrying since the Targaryens came to live on Dragonstone. Vaelaena Velaryon was mother to the three conquerors. More recently, King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne were both half Velaryon. Queen Alyssa Velaryon also mothered Boremund Baratheon, who is the current Lord of Storm's End's father, and Jocelyn Baratheon, Princess Rhaenys's mother. I know this isn't how genetics work, but Rhaenys is mathematically half Velaryon, which doesn't matter, but is interesting. Jaehaerys and Alysanne were both half Velaryon. Their children, Baelon, Alyssa, and Daela, were therefore also mathematically half Velaryon. Viserys was the son of Baelon and Alyssa, again making him half Velaryon. Aemma was Daela's daughter (also a grandchild of King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne.) So she would be a quarter Velaryon mathematically. So Rhaenyra would still be approx three eighths Velaryon. Point being, Rhaenyra's great-great grandmother was a Velaryon. Jace, Luke, and Joffrey have Velaryon blood, trueborn or not. In addition, by marrying Baela and Rhaena, their children would be direct descendants of Corlys and Rhaenys either way. Summary: Rhaenyra's children by Harwin Strong still have Velaryon blood, as Targaryen's and Velaryon's have been intermarrying for centuries.

Corlys was born a few years before the parents of Rhaenys. So that is something to think about. He is also probably older than all of the dragons on Team Black.

"This meeting could've been a raven" should be a shirt

I would say its a marginal win for the Greens. Rhaenys and Meleys were a far more powerful and experienced dragon and rider combination than Aegon and Sunfyre. She volunteered to go to Rooks Rest because she knew she was more expendable than Rhaenyra the Queen, Jace her heir or Baela who was bethored to the future king. While Aemond is also somewhat expendable on the Green's side, having Vhagar pretty much negates any threat bar you know who. Aegon had pretty much been sidelined at this stage anyway, with Aemond and Cole running the war. So having him out of the way for now gives the Greens a free hand to pursue the war they want too. Plus there's the fact they actually stormed Rooks Rest and slew one of Rhaenyra 's councillors is another small win for the Greens.

This doesn't go live right?

Keep in mind, Meleys was first Alyssa Targaryen’s dragon and Vhagar was once the dragon of Baelon Targaryen (Viserys & Daemon’s parents). Meleys flew with Vhagar in war and in peace back in the day. The Red Queen knew what she was in for and knew they couldn’t win alone. 😢

I feel like Rhaenyra will make Corlys hand as an apology for Rhaenys

Sweet baby Jessica trying to explain " trifling"

Hmmm good point, in episode 3 daemon hesitated to drink even though they were being so open with him, then the creepy lady gives him some dramatic concoction and he’s like yeah sure, she up to something

Rhaenys wouldn't leave her people undefended. She knew she was going to die, but made her peace with it.

Vermithor was King Jaeharys’ dragon..Queen Alicent’s dragon was named Silverwing and will be claimed by one of the dragon seeds named Ulf the White, and Vermithor will be claimed by Hugh Hammer

49:11 DragonFire is more powerful than regular fire. Some Targaryans can withstand the heat of regular fire without injury, but DragonFire is on another level.

I’m pretty sure rynera was also still in the same sempra dress from the last episode. The head covering was just removed

Allan and his brother both know who their father is, you've probably forgot that they said so.

Definitely best episode of the series for far. The first real time seeing dragons fight was great.

lol Zach, that stray hair curl is killing me..

If you say gwayne in a high pitch, it sounds like an arc reactor

50:49 Vermithor was King Jaehaerys' dragon, it's Silverwing that was Queen Alysanne's

I can’t help but draw parallels between characters of this series and characters of the original. For example, there’s similarities in Daemon & Jaime’s personalities (although their arcs will be very different); Otto and Tywin are stoic patriarchs who controlled their children, and the realm for a time, in often compassionless ways; Mysaria and Varys are lowborn who have risen to have a modicum of influence on their rulers and with regard for the common people. There are plenty of others for which those who discuss these things have mentioned. But during Criston Cole’s execution of the lord of Duskendale in last night’s episode, it suddenly reminded me of Jon’s execution of Janos Slynt in GoT (as well as Ned executing the deserter in the pilot and the Starks’/Jon’s overall creed of pass sentence/swing sword). Sure, you could also draw some parallels between Jaime & Criston, especially both being morally ambiguous (at best) Lord Commanders of the Kingsguard. But Cole now feels to me like a twisted version of Jon Snow. Both value duty and honor above almost all else, although Cole more often doesn’t carry it through in practice. They both carry a lot of guilt for their actions, but Jon tended to learn and grow from that, while Cole just keeps digging himself deeper and deeper into depravity and dishonor.

33:02 i wouldn't say NONE of these characters make it. I'm pretty sure that's Melisandre

And when you come to think of it, the real winners were the friends we made along the way… Sun Tzu or Vhagar perhaps

That was a hard episode to watch. Def made me tear up.

This meeting could have been a raven. Should be on a t shirt

Daemon's 2nd wife

If the red witch showed up in this show i would not be surprised shes out there somewhere. Also no way aegon is dead.

Personally i think Rhaenys knew she couldnt beat vhagar. god im probably butchering these names. but my inkiling is that she needs to injure vhagar enough so that the other dragons the blacks have, now have a shot, or B, injured enough to have to be resting when the Greens need him. Its like a chess move, even though she knew that she would die as a pawn/rook however the saying would go.

RIP , Rhaenys , The Queen who should have been, also Vhagar is turning out to be a lil pus-dragon, all major moves are back stabbing, not head on !

HOUSE OF THE DRAGON WAS PHENOMENAL 🔥🩸⚔️💪🏼 THE BATTLE WAS HEARTBREAKING AND EPIC!!! IM SHOCKED BRAVO HBO 👏 The Queen who never was 🥂 #HouseOfTheDragon

I think Rheanya had to die (and she died like a champ! her and Mayles) to set up for the BIG SHOWDOWN BETWEEN AEMOND AND DAEMOND. Vaygar is huge but she is battleworn and old and there will be more dragons to take her down. it's gonna be on and poppin next episode.

Vermithor was Jaharys dragon Silver wing was the good queen Allisayne’s dragon.

Aemond. That's the answer.

THAT WAS CORLYS BASTARD?! DUDE I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE OMG

THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!! FAVE EPISODE THIS SEASON🎉👀🍿 RHAENYS IS BETTER THAN ME-I WOULDN'T HAVE GONE SOLO!!😮 THEY'RE JUMPING OVER THERE & DUDE LEGIT TRIED TO KILL HIS OWN BROTHER 🤯

I have never hated a cgi character so much as I literally hate Vhagar - I don't know what is sadder

Can we stop the woah as me I'm Alicent and nobody is on my side. Like cry me a river. Also Im thinking Larys might turn on Alicent if she becomes a liability. 🤞

My 3 FAVES. 🥇🥇🥇 Um, you touched on it briefly regarding the dagger but not entirely, aemond was the one that injured Aegon. His full intention was to kill him because he’s become a liability & obviously Aemond would be a better war king. Rhenys was more than qualified to take Aegon out on her own but Aemond did it. I think the dagger will come up in conversation between Alicent & Aemond because unlike Aegon Aemond is perceptive & very studious. Idk how but some kind of way I think it’ll come out if not through aemomd than haelena.. it changes nothing but it only heightens the condemnation alicent feels, her part in all this. I think the loss the blacks took was only to balance the scales. Blood for blood. Nobody wins in this war. It’s a tragedy. A good episode & it doesn’t even feel like we’re only on ep4 so much has been covered. All the actors are doing so well, really happy for them.

It’s called “Blackwood Blackout”

You gonna Dye here. It means Daemon will change his hair colour to black or something 😂

How is Adum if hull going to be a dragonrider if he is corlys son. I would understand if they were leanors

38:03 You ok Jess?😢

Dude, R. totally rode the bomb, Strangelove style.

As someone who hasn't read the books, I just don't see how Team Black could possibly win (this is coming from a Team Black supporter)

YESSS CHAPPELL ROAN REFS EVERYWHERE

Why 1 dragon? They coulda sent 4 dragons… and then finish the job quick, avoid aemond and vhagar, and just put Cole out of his misery. And probably get Aegon