Who Really Won The Korean War? (4K Documentary)

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Only five years after the end of WW2, the major nations of the world are once again up in arms. A global UN coalition and an emerging Chinese juggernaut are fighting it out in a war that will see both sides approach the brink of victory - and defeat.
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Presented by: Jesse Alexander
Written by: Mark Newton
Director: Toni Steller
Editing: Toni Steller
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@realtimehistory 22 күн бұрын

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@flashgordon6670 17 күн бұрын

The same winners of every war; The Worms!

@rickden8362 16 күн бұрын

Have you ever seen a picture of the Korean peninsula from space a night: the south is lit top to bottom almost solid...the north is nearly totally dark with a few white spots. How can you say there is a doubt who won or lost the war. Would you really rather live in N. Korea than S. Korea!

@kimobrien. 13 күн бұрын

@@rickden8362 The US carpet bombed the North such that no building over two stories high was left standing. The government in the South was merely a military puppet dictatorship of Washington. Like other capitalist miracles in Asia it has a population that is not reproducing itself.

@bradhorowitz2765 11 күн бұрын

Who won? I like how the video didn’t answer this. To me, Korea is a wasteful stupid war that gave no wholesome benefit. 1)the civilians death rate is horrendous and unexplored ordinances I believe still continue. 2)both sides supported dictators who killed their own people, either cooperated in wholesale massacres, or at the very least gave the book. 3)Soith Korea may be remembered as a positive democracy, THAT WAS NOT THE CASE until the 80s; Rhee’s tenure was an authoritarian nightmare. The North Koreans technically came on top economically but that eventually gave way to a rising tide of North Korean racism nationalism and Kim’s authoritarian mindset pulling the country more into the evil it is todays 4)the U.S. army, as Thomas ricks journalist on military history, and as the video pointed out were wholly unprepared for the war and its internal command structure was fractured and formed times eschewed by egos. Rick’s pointed out the problems of commanders lying to their superiors, the U.S.’s rotating policy on sending troops to replace veterans, a failure to understand the battlefield, to adapt quickly, and a limited political will to enter a war were lessons were ignored. 5)China became more paranoid because of the costs of the war and it may have encouraged Mao to be harsher. It’s worth noting that while China did become closer to both Vietnam and North Korea, those friendships were dubious. Vietnam and China would duke it out the 70s (among their other diplomatic disagreements), and North Korea has rarely been an economic powerhouse that could benefit China. It’s now could be considered to be a ticking bomb that China dosnt want to touch. It has nuclear weapons and its collapse means that millions of refugees could come across Chinese border. 6)the US became more paranoid as Joe McCarthy rose up to power. 7)despite being integrated, U.S. nonwhite troops came home to horrific racism.

@rickden8362 11 күн бұрын

@@bradhorowitz2765 How can you look at the 2 Koreas today and conclude the south didn't win in the end.

@pencilpauli9442 22 күн бұрын

Whatever you do... Don't say it will be over by Christmas. It never is.

@manupontheprecipice6254 22 күн бұрын

If I had a nickel…

@randbarrett8706 20 күн бұрын

People really start to believe their own bs The USA invaded Iraq without any strategy or plan for victory because George Bush really believed everything would just work out

@mammuchan8923 20 күн бұрын

😅

@MarvelousSeven 20 күн бұрын

They never said which Christmas...

@Monkey.D.Shinchan 18 күн бұрын

@@MarvelousSeven fair enough

@DabaksolGuardPost 22 күн бұрын

I'm pretty sure the winner is Korea and the one who lost is Korea.

@MM22966 22 күн бұрын

That is probably the best summary I have ever heard. You could put it on a seal, or a memorial.

@Archimedeeez 20 күн бұрын

a draw

@darkbut8864 20 күн бұрын

@@Archimedeeez the war is not over they have armistice but to peace treaty

@andrewclimovech9967 18 күн бұрын

Facts

@bmyers7078 18 күн бұрын

@@darkbut8864: only because Dr. Rhee was too cowardly a President to secure peace for his country.

@jeffe9842 21 күн бұрын

I'm a US expat living in Colombia and people are aware of Colombia's participation in the Korean War. It's not the "forgotten war" as it's called elsewhere.

@stefanodadamo6809 21 күн бұрын

Right amidst La Violencia.

@RobertBrown-wm9ob 19 күн бұрын

Sadley in the USA it is the forgotten war. Not to many Americans left to tell their story. For years it was always about Vietnam. I knew many veterans who fought in nam and Korea. They all said nam didn't even compair to their fight in Korea. They said their was no comparison and I already thought that from my research.

@DY-fy2jh 18 күн бұрын

It’s only forgotten in the US, all other major participants clearly remember it

@williamkline7922 17 күн бұрын

I had no idea Colombia participated in the Korean War. Thank you for telling me and nothing but love for our Colombian friends.

@MORE_BEANS_PLZ 17 күн бұрын

@@DY-fy2jh lmao it's not forgotten they teach the Korean war in American schools

@CliffCardi 18 күн бұрын

The real winner was Japan, who then had a 30+ year long economic boom after the Korean War.

@jeremycase3047 12 күн бұрын

they always win when it comes to Korea so its no surprise

@user-eu8fg4vf5r Күн бұрын

ばれたか

@El_basrista_de_la_casa 21 күн бұрын

Thank you for the video ! As a south korean, My grandfather was forcibly conscripted by the Imperial Japanese Army and assigned to the 50th Regiment of the Kwantung Army in Manchuria. In 1944, he was ordered to move to Tinian Island near Saipan to defend against the US Marine Corps landing on the island. However, when the situation for the Japanese army became unfavorable, he was ordered not to be taken as a prisoner, but to commit suicide by jumping off a cliff as a soldier of the Japanese Imperial Army. He was able to survive by secretly leading Koreans who had been forcibly conscripted like him to surrender to the U.S. Marines and telling them in Japanese that they were Koreans and had been forcibly conscripted by the Japanese Empire. After World War II ended, he returned to Korea and joined the South Korean Army. Later, during the Korean War, he fought against North Korean and Chinese forces. After the Korean War armistice, he was sent as a military advisor to Vietnam in the 1970s.

@realtimehistory 21 күн бұрын

thanks for sharing his story

@randbarrett8706 20 күн бұрын

Wow, that’s quite a ride

@KalashVodka175 19 күн бұрын

Thats an impressive journey from war to war

@user-jv9wx3wz7i 17 күн бұрын

Cool story, I served in South Korea once at K2 AirBase (Daegu Air Base) and a second time at K55 (Osan Air Base). Love Korean food and culture!

@jacobgleisner5630 12 күн бұрын

Freaking soldier for sure man. 🇺🇸🇰🇷

@Halcyon_games 19 күн бұрын

My Grandfather fought in Korea as a supply truck driver, he talked about a British officer who offered him some tea which he accepted, shortly after a North Korean mortar attacked the base and a round landed where he would have been standing had he not accepted, crazy to think he could have been the 24th NZEF death

@Cancoillotteman 17 күн бұрын

"Saved by a cup of tea" should have given him British honorary citizenship ! X)

@Omega0850 15 күн бұрын

I bet he never again had a day without tea.

@pencilpauli9442 22 күн бұрын

Oh dear. Never use British understatement to an American when talking about important issues. Things could go a tad awry! lol

@colindunnigan8621 21 күн бұрын

Just a smidgin, quite so...

@robertjarman3703 21 күн бұрын

Kim Il Sung is carrying out a cunning plan sir!

@randbarrett8706 20 күн бұрын

I hate the American habit of exaggeration & hyperbole Wild braggadocio is almost standard in American business today

@yeedbottomtext7563 19 күн бұрын

“Malay emergency” “The Troubles”

@juliantheapostate8295 19 күн бұрын

@@randbarrett8706 There is that 'shouty-happy' presentation style they have also. Teeth-grindingly awful

@indianajones4321 22 күн бұрын

Fun fact: Michael Caine fought in the Korean War in the British Army

@MIRobin22 22 күн бұрын

He's quoted in the video 🙂

@indianajones4321 22 күн бұрын

@@MIRobin22 yeah, I had made this comment before getting to that part, my bad 🫠

@zainmudassir2964 20 күн бұрын

@@indianajones4321 it's okay.

@maxasaurus3008 20 күн бұрын

You guys saw that too eh? 😂 sharp eyes.

@MightyMouse76 20 күн бұрын

Now, not that many people know that.....

@kungfuchimp5788 22 күн бұрын

Man, Real Time History has to be one of the best history channels for conveying detailed information in a short format regarding the history of world conflict. Jesse's narration is clear, concise and well delivered. Always excited for notifications of new episodes... if I get them.

@HieronymousCheese 22 күн бұрын

I'm always waiting for the smartass comment at the end. I am never disappointed. I love this channel so much.

@imperfectclark 22 күн бұрын

@@HieronymousCheese💯

@jessealexander2695 21 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@aaronblank2318 21 күн бұрын

Easily the best military history channel on KZfaq, as far as I'm concerned.

@kungfuchimp5788 21 күн бұрын

@@HieronymousCheese Me too.👍

@heyuhmark2025 22 күн бұрын

I was just trying to find Korean War documentaries when I saw this uploaded 11 mins ago. Great video

@HistoryHaty 22 күн бұрын

They never talk about the Korean War because It was right after World War II.

@keiming2277 17 күн бұрын

Japan and Taiwan (ROC) Japan : Thanks to the military demands, they revived their factories Taiwan (ROC) : Because China sent their forces to Korea, China (PRC) stopped their plan to attack Taiwan

@doujinflip 15 күн бұрын

Crucially, the Beijing expended their most experienced soldiers in Korea, so by the time the shooting stopped there, the PLA were left largely with conscripts who lack the experience of sustainably fighting on an offensive.

@Niever 14 күн бұрын

@doujinflip And yet it still ended in a stalemate

@tvgerbil1984 13 күн бұрын

The PLA lost a lot foot soldiers in the Korean War but it also gained many categories of soldiers it previously was short of, like MiG pilots, tank crews, artillery officers. This was the result of gaining greater access to a wide range of Soviet weaponry as a condition of Chinese entry into the Korean War on Stalin's behalf. On the whole, the PLA in fact grew stronger as the Korean War went on, particularly in its airforce. However, the death of Stalin in 1953 changed everything and helped to bring a quick end of Chinese participation of the Korean War.

@dennismetzger9287 5 күн бұрын

My grandpa served in the Navy during the war, i made sure to sit and listen to the stories! Glad this part of history is gaining traction, more should know the sacrifices made.

@dezmondwhitney1208 16 күн бұрын

My father served as a British soldier in The Korean War. When I did some time with the army He then decided to tell me more about his experiences, which were most harrowing. I thank you a lot for this Excellent video about this Korean War,

@jamesorth6460 22 күн бұрын

Yeah, my 93 year old dad was over there when he was nineteen and half turning twenty in December of 1950. He was a financial clerk in the Second division HQ in Pyongyang when he was transfer to the 23rd Infantry Regiment in December of 1950. Two battles he fought in were Twin Tunnels which took place at the end of January 1951 and the battle of Chipyong-ni mid-February. In both battles there was a French Battalion attached to the 23rd Infantry Regiment that perform many galant bayonet charges that blunted many of the Communist Chinese attacks.

@activationfunction 19 күн бұрын

The French Battalion had a tragic tale. French strategic command treated them like a disposable sponge and they suffered heavy casualty in Indochina after Korea. Then, they got shipped to Algeria and suffered more hardship w/o adequate supports during the Algerian Revolution. There was probably nobody from the original 1000 men who managed to survive all that madness.

@tedl8178 17 күн бұрын

did the french go the diem bien phu a few years later?

@MrSwareism 16 күн бұрын

@@rich453 It was Bataillon français de l'ONU, look for it , they have a wiki page about this one. After Korean War, they was transfer to Indochina and form part of the famous Groupement mobile 100, which then got ambushed and nearly wiped out in Battle of Mang Yang Pass. In just a few months after arrived in Vietnam, this battalion suffer casualty equal to 3 years in Korean war.

@jasonwillis7961 6 күн бұрын

@@activationfunctionThey were Legionairres. Legionairres are disposable as far as the French are concerned, unfortunately.

@cmn6772 21 күн бұрын

The tiger face markings on the Patton tanks at 22:40 are gnarly

@jyveturkey1894 21 күн бұрын

Was very excited to see a new video. Thanks!

@bigsarge2085 22 күн бұрын

Incredible as usual, thank you!

@BigJoe2.0 22 күн бұрын

Love these documentaries. Very fun to watch and informative.

@gegwen7440 15 күн бұрын

Informative yes , but fun ?

@team3am149 16 күн бұрын

The best video on this topic in the entirety of KZfaq, bravo!

@xwormwood 22 күн бұрын

You guy do a great job - this is an awesome documentary. Thank you so much!

@andrekeith3836 21 күн бұрын

These deep dives into historiographical questions are my favorite things you guys do! Please keep creating content like this!

@user-sy8bi5xk8i 22 күн бұрын

Great video. Well done!

@Ed_Stuckey 21 күн бұрын

Both my brother and brother-in-law participated in the Korean War. Personally, I served in the US Army and was stationed there in two separate periods: 1962-63 and 1963-64. During both tours, I was stationed just a few miles south of the DMZ at Camp Hovey and Camp Casey. Recently, I went online to look at current images of those areas, and each time I was astonished by the stark differences. While I was there, I had the opportunity to travel to Seoul and Pusan, and the progress and advancements I witnessed throughout Korea were equally remarkable and comparable to the changes that took place in the areas where I was stationed. Although I was young and found the whole experience interesting, I have no desire to revisit Korea at this point in my life.

@stephenhood2948 14 күн бұрын

Thank you for your service!!

@RavenGent 17 күн бұрын

My grandfather was in Korea from 1951 to 1953. He would always tell me what he saw, I mean everything . This video very informative and well done. Including facts as my grandfather told me.

@user-qi5hb2px1s 5 күн бұрын

저의 조국의 평화를 위해 헌신하신 할아버님께 감사드립니다. 고맙습니다!

@Livelaughandlaughmore 22 күн бұрын

Let’s goooo going to finish this video after work

@frankiefierro7129 18 күн бұрын

The biggest winner was Japan who saw US policy of deindustrialization reversed due to the need of a local supply base in future operations in Asia

@nicholaswhite9760 16 күн бұрын

Yep. US rebuilt Japanese industry system to support Korean War in a short time. That’s the engine boosts economic blooming from60-80s’.

@mingouczjcz3800 16 күн бұрын

True. In order to further Japanese goal, now Japan prods the U.S. to directly have a fight China

@keiming2277 13 күн бұрын

And later South Korea factories got a giant military demand for US military in Vietnam War

@UzumakiNaruto_ 12 күн бұрын

You make it sound like none of Japan's pre-war industrial based survived or something which allowed them to build the navy that they were able to build to go to war with. They certainly did get aid and help from the US, but they also became the nation they are today through their own hard work and perseverance and their drive to succeed.

@frankiefierro7129 12 күн бұрын

@@UzumakiNaruto_ They were in the process of deconstructing their heavy industry under U.S. supervision with plans to focus on agriculture and light industry. Thankfully their heavy industry was allowed to rebuild due to need for war material. Yes, they were able to rebuild with their own hands and sweat but it was because they were allowed to.

@mohammedsaysrashid3587 22 күн бұрын

It was an informative ,incredible, and wonderful historical coverage work shared by an amazing ( RTH) channel...thanks for sharing

@1969Risky 19 күн бұрын

Jesse & team, that was a brilliant documentary, but it did skip a couple of important battles. Not to mention that Australia was barely a footnote in this documentary along with New Zealand. I would suggest to everyone to read up on the Battle of Kapyong 22-27 April 1951. I know it's hard document everything here but you could have spread it out over 2 parts. People tend to forget that it was the first time that the UN had a unified command of troops from different countries. It's also the first forgotten war.

@Mario-qf2hg 22 күн бұрын

Interesting take on the Korean War. Usually this is presented in a very pro-america/UN forces standing against waves of Chinese. With what little time you had, it felt a little more even handed.

@jessealexander2695 22 күн бұрын

Thanks.

@Mario-qf2hg 22 күн бұрын

Absolutely. Really enjoy your content!

@eliech7112 22 күн бұрын

Thank you very nice video

@jonathanguitard984 Күн бұрын

My oldest uncle signed up at 17. Canadian. He came home from basic and stood godfather for my mom who is the youngest. He sewed lead weights into his pants because he didn't weigh enough. Wound up serving 25 years. He in his 90's now

@Invertmini1212 14 күн бұрын

Without the Korean war I wouldn't be Alive right now which is crazy to think about... My mom and her twin sister were 2 at the time and got on a war plane full of other kids and were flown to Arizona to be adopted. Her and her sister were adopted by an Air Force Captain and he raised them in Arizona with his wife. My moms been living in America her whole life and married my dad and had me... She just turned 70 and is so healthy and full of life.. I think about this all the time how wars shape our history more than we know.

@johncurtis6815 14 күн бұрын

Thank you for sharing this 🙏. I’m glad you’re here. Now go give a big hug to your momma.

@TheFlubber06 18 күн бұрын

Over 30,000 Americans lost their lives in Korea and asked for nothing in return but a patch of land to bury their dead. As a result of their sacrifice, there are millions of people who live in relative freedom today instead of the worst kind of totalitarianism in the world. All you need to do to confirm this claim is to look at a satellite image of the peninsula at night. This is a major victory for the cause of liberty and the idea that it can be considered anything else is absurd.

@macgordonaberese-ako4587 17 күн бұрын

And confort. Do not forget. One of the richest countries on the planet. Thanks to USA.WEST GERMANY BRITAIN AND ARROGANT.

@macgordonaberese-ako4587 17 күн бұрын

Arragant France: Marshall plan.

@Cancoillotteman 17 күн бұрын

@@macgordonaberese-ako4587 sure, here's the gratuitous hatred of the French XD You're welcome mate ! Who else would you hate if we weren't there ?

@flashgordon6670 17 күн бұрын

But without France we wouldn’t have been sucked into WW1 and 2, or Vietnam. Or the Napoleonic wars for that matter and all the Medieval wars we had against them. So we have to thank them for helping to start all the biggest wars to begin with.

@flashgordon6670 17 күн бұрын

...and the Colonial wars.

@OwenPhillipsMBA 9 күн бұрын

Superb video as always - balanced and highly informative. Thank you

@alpha3488 22 күн бұрын

"Mc Arthur predicts victory before Christmas". I heard that on this channel before.

@Blodhelm 21 күн бұрын

Right up there with "what could possibly go wrong?" and "it's quiet, too quiet."

@1809steph 19 күн бұрын

Monty also predicted the war will be over before Xmas with his operation market garden .monty and MacArthur could have been twins .

@troystaunton254 16 күн бұрын

@@1809stephMonty was arrogant. MacArthur was arrogant and incompetent. Thats much worse.

@markgarrett3647 15 күн бұрын

@@troystaunton254Actually the War in Europe would have ended sooner if we had a MacArthur-esque as SHAEF.

@markgarrett3647 15 күн бұрын

@@1809stephThe difference is that the quality and quantity of troops that Monty had were higher than what MacArthur had in Korea.

@martinbevk1695 22 күн бұрын

Haha...."we are not retreating, we are merely advancing in another direction" :D

@YAH2121 20 күн бұрын

One of the best history channels on YT

@KainWT 7 сағат бұрын

My great grandfather was an engineer/artillery man in the Korean War. Dude had some crazy stories

@dantankunfiveancestorsfist 21 күн бұрын

"US refused to come to the aid of the French at Điện Biên Phủ because the US is afraid of China intervention" That kinda said a lot.

@louisvaught2495 18 күн бұрын

I was pretty convinced by that, but the counter-argument, that China never invaded Taiwan, is equally strong. More than anything else, that probably shows how no one really "won" the Korean war. Both sides didn't want to try again.

@dantankunfiveancestorsfist 17 күн бұрын

@@louisvaught2495 China have proved that they meant want they say and will do what they say China intervene in Korea war and Vietnam War and now China is saying sending the same warning to the USA to back off Taiwan or face war again. That is why the USA can only force Taiwan to spend as much money to buy US weapons so that at least the US military complex and economy can benefit from it. The difference the US is giving away billions to Ukraine but not with Taiwan, Taiwan have to pay for all the military equipment. It would seems the USA can only sell military equipment to Taiwan not clothing, shoes, furniture etc.

@kimobrien. 14 күн бұрын

The French Imperialist were driven out of Vietnam and Algeria.

@Johnny53kgb-nsa 8 күн бұрын

This would be similar to China trying to invade Mexico and fighting America on their door step.

@freedumb_3.0 Күн бұрын

@@louisvaught2495 China never invaded Taiwan because they didn't have the logistics to put 300k men in Taiwan. It's that simple. As far as no one else wants to try again. Not true. The Americans have been goading China into a war. What history has taught us is that dying empires never win wars against rising ones.

@onthatrockhewillbuildhisch1510 21 күн бұрын

Saddened to see so little mention of Australia's contribution. Her Air force squadron based in Japan (British Commonwealth Occupation Force since 1945) was the first UN force to join the US attacks. Her Infantry Battalion made up a third of the British Commonwealth Brigade and had an important victory at Kapyong after the heroic fight of the Gloucestershire's Battle (along with New Zealand artillery and the nearby Canadian defence). Her Navy's Frigates and an Aircraft Carrier made early and important contributions to the conflict.

@niuchajianfa6222 19 күн бұрын

War criminal aussies

@douglasgreene9340 18 күн бұрын

Old faithful 3rd royal Australian regiment

@troystaunton254 15 күн бұрын

@@niuchajianfa6222everyone does war crimes. But when you win it doesn’t count. I wonder, do you support the terrorists or communists who hid behind their wives and children until we got bored and left, or do you support the many we beat in open conflict? Because that’s the 2 options.

@tictac-bl4so 14 күн бұрын

@@niuchajianfa6222what warcrimes ?

@niuchajianfa6222 14 күн бұрын

@@tictac-bl4so A whistleblower who helped expose allegations of Australian war crimes in Afghanistan has been sentenced to five years and eight months in jail.

@therealuncleowen2588 16 күн бұрын

This video was excellent.

@HwangSimok 10 сағат бұрын

As a citizen of the Republic of Korea, I express my deep respect and gratitude to the participating countries and allies who fought against communists for a free Republic of Korea.

@stephenconroy5908 14 күн бұрын

~1000+ British casualties doesn't seem much at first, but seeing them on the Armed Forces Memorial at the National Memorial Arboretum, for all post-1945 conflict, those names loom large over you. It is hugely humbling for so many reasons.

@sankarchaya 19 күн бұрын

.... that photo of Kim il Sung in 41:56 looks so much like his grandson I thought it was a current photo for a split moment ...

@Colin21233 18 күн бұрын

Love "The Korean War" by Col. Hickey, fantastic book!

@user-ct3vc1xo1b 10 күн бұрын

늘감사합니다

@seanbumstead1250 22 күн бұрын

It's not over,so their can't be a winner

@arlobones3410 22 күн бұрын

Yes it is, the ceasefire was over in like 2018

@seanbumstead1250 21 күн бұрын

@@arlobones3410you are wrong their was no armistice sign ever so it's still a active war,learn some history

@MMCUSN 19 күн бұрын

@@seanbumstead1250 The 1953 cease fire was called an Armistice (with the transfer of POWs), but no Peace Treaty. The treatment of POW's by N. Korea was and still is a major point of contention preventing a Peace Treaty. Many N. Korean POWs didn't want to go back.

@markgarrett3647 15 күн бұрын

There's no substitute to victory.

@Niever 14 күн бұрын

@MMCUSN Yes, the treatment of POW's is why no peace treaty was signed. Not the stalemate. Boy you are smart

@flashgordon6670 17 күн бұрын

The same winners of every war; The Worms!

18 күн бұрын

It is always fascinating to get more context for such historic events. I wonder how the Australian light infantry of 1943/44 that fought at places like Buna/Gona and Lae would have fared against the Chinese. Those guys knew all about all round defence :)

@AccordGTR 2 күн бұрын

I visited Gwangju South Korea in 2019 and was surprised to talk to an old man in a bus who remembered Filipino soldiers in the Korean War and was grateful. South Korea and the Philippines are great friends.

@williamwerner7599 22 күн бұрын

My grandmothers brother was Army infantry and was there in 1951 I think.

@RedFail1-1 18 күн бұрын

That's your Great Uncle.

@williamwerner7599 18 күн бұрын

@@RedFail1-1 that is correct.

@bohan9957 20 күн бұрын

The best unbiased documentary of the Korean war I've ever seen.

@projectlessweforget 10 күн бұрын

My great grandfather fought in the Korean War (U.S) sadly I didn't get a chance to talk to him about his service since he passed a few years ago.

@hughboyd2904 18 күн бұрын

I love this channel!

@tvgerbil1984 21 күн бұрын

The only victor was Taiwan. Communist China had already started attacking the outlying islands of Taiwan in 1949 but the invasion stalled because it needed Soviet material help to go further and Stalin was receptive of the idea. However, the Korean War put the invasion of Taiwan on hold as Soviet and Chinese resources flowed into Korea instead. Then Stalin died in 1953 and the Korean War ended. The US saw the Korean War as a Communist plot to take over Asia and made the commitment to defend Taiwan by signing a Mutual Defense Treaty with the Chinese Nationalists in Taiwan in 1954. So Taiwan was in effect saved by the Korean War and became the only victor.

@gameragodzilla 19 күн бұрын

South Korea was also a victor since their only true goal was the preservation of the South Korean state. While it would’ve been nice to fully unify, ultimately the only real losers were the North Koreans as their initial aim was to forcibly unify Korea under the Communist regime. Otherwise, the US and South Korea got what they wanted (preservation of South Korea) and so did China (preservation of North Korea).

@tvgerbil1984 19 күн бұрын

@@gameragodzilla South Korea paid a terrible price for the survival as a country with nearly a million South Koreans killed and many times more injured. The capital Seoul was battleground for multiple times and severely damaged in the fighting.

@gameragodzilla 19 күн бұрын

@@tvgerbil1984 Sure, but they survived North Korean aggression.

@ShubhamMishrabro 19 күн бұрын

Vietnam paid a heavy price too with millions of Vietnamese killed but they're free@@tvgerbil1984

@brucetucker4847 18 күн бұрын

@@gameragodzilla And I'm betting their children and grandchildren are very glad they did.

@nvelsen1975 22 күн бұрын

This is another of those wars where the answer to 'who won? who lost?' is actually 'yes', isn't it? All got some of their strategic objectives and failed a significant amount of their strategic objectives. Also 17:22 Peng Dehuai is worth a read. Poor guy was a brilliant general by all accounts, but ended up getting purged by Mao. He's been reinstated after death as a bit of a hero by the anti-maoist faction of the CCP though.

@johnwelch6490 9 күн бұрын

Dr. Arthur G. Neal was one of the 42 survivors of Pork Chop Hill. He had all the payroll in a satchel and Money Orders as the battle started on payday. He was from rural West Virginia and was a professor of Sociology at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.

@juanrodriguez6707 19 күн бұрын

My boss (Ron Broward)and co owner of sudwerk brewery was in the marines and fought in the Korean War. Thank you Ron and may you rest in peace🙏🏼🇺🇸

@yaoypl 19 күн бұрын

Americans called the Korean War "the Forgotten War." That conveyed a lot about who truly won the war. You don't call a war "a forgotten war" if you are the winner of the conflict.

@user-ov1ep5rf2l 18 күн бұрын

That's because absolutely nothing changed for any American civilian whatsoever. It was a distant war fought for a motivation barely understood by the public. If kore fell or not, the average American did not care.

@ShubhamMishrabro 17 күн бұрын

By that same logic British commonwealth group including Chinese who fought the Japanese are known as 14th infantry or also forgotten army. Then surely they must have lost because that division is forgotten? Illogical comment

@Johnny53kgb-nsa 8 күн бұрын

What was each countries death count?

@ll0l0l0lolo0l 7 күн бұрын

The war of 1812 is forgotten by both the British and the U.S. I guess it was the green space men that won that war.

@chaosXP3RT 5 күн бұрын

North Korea's goal was to conquer South Korea. South Korea's goal was to survive. It's pretty obvious on who won the Korean War.

@fosterfuchs 21 күн бұрын

In this video, Inchon is spelled without an "e". I'm used to it being spelled "Incheon". Both the airport and city. Their own branding. Is both correct, since it's just a western translation of the original Korean, anyway?

@proCaylak 21 күн бұрын

I can't speak or read a word of Korean. But as far as I know, some transliterations like ㅓ"eo" and ㅡ"eu" are represented by individual symbols in its original and they are distinct from ㅔ"e", ㅗ"o" and ㅜ"u". Keep in mind that in Hangul, Korean writing system, symbols are put together in a block instead of being written in a single direction. It's quite modular in my opinion. I recommend you to check Korean writing system for more info.

@realtimehistory 21 күн бұрын

both work, but the Battle was referred to as Inchon landing back then.

@stephenhood2948 14 күн бұрын

I've always heard it spelled Inchon. I suppose it is a Korean city, so there could be something changed in translation??

@BANDERSJR 11 сағат бұрын

It is indeed Incheon. The Inchon spelling is just the easiest what to phonetically spell it in English. Similar to the Chosin battle.

@user-cd4bx6uq1y 22 күн бұрын

This sure would make a great drama

@noureddin83 13 күн бұрын

This is among the best video repots on the Korean War. Thanks! and I look forward to viewing other videos in your channel

@labtec514 19 күн бұрын

Imagine what could've happened if the US had listened to the Chinese

@trelkel3805 21 күн бұрын

Who won? Neither. Both Sung and Rhee claimed the entire peninsular and wanted to reunify but neither could ultimately do it despite huge amounts of personnel and hardware from China and the USA.

@shelbyle375 5 күн бұрын

This documentary is a lot more informative than the other ones.

@jessealexander2695 5 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@oliverborromeo8460 10 күн бұрын

Really well written episode

@brianmcevoy1990 22 күн бұрын

Damn I never knew about the Soviets boycotting the UN while the korean resolution vote happened. Quite the "what if" moment if they had been there to veto the vote. Would the Americans have still gone to war without UN backing?

@MM22966 22 күн бұрын

Probably. It would have been some 1950 version of the "Coalition of the Willing", i.e. the Free World powers without UN mandate.

@brianmcevoy1990 21 күн бұрын

@@MM22966 Looking at it today the US has no regard for international order, but back then it was soon after the United nations was formed so maybe they would have been reluctant to make such a bold move.

@San_Vito 21 күн бұрын

The US went into Iraq, with a coalition of allies, despite the UN arguing the casus belli was not real and thus the invasion illegal. So yes, a Soviet veto wouldn't have mattered much. Unlike in Iraq, N. Korea was an active threat.

@MM22966 21 күн бұрын

@@San_Vito Also worth keeping in mind is that UN was so new, nobody was sure what it was supposed to be. A rubber-stamp for Western powers? Some neutral observational body/sounding board? An active third power in the Cold War? A shelter for neutral countries that were trying to steer clear of the East/West blocs? I guess it ended up being all of the above.

@saint4life09 21 күн бұрын

Thank you for highlighting the British (and British Commonwealth) participation. As with most wars involving the US on our side, the world (specifically the US) tend to often ignore our efforts.

@edgehoward4290 17 күн бұрын

the whole war is ignored in the US not just the british or commonwealths participation in it

@saint4life09 17 күн бұрын

@@edgehoward4290 It's no more ignored than it is here in the UK. It's known as the forgotten war for a reason, but obviously I'm talking about the people who do know and talk about it.

@stephenhood2948 14 күн бұрын

It's only "The Forgotten War" by those who gave chose to forget it. I will never forget the sacrifice made by so many brave men and women who chose to fight for freedom. If we wish to be free people again we may very well have to make similar sacrifices at some point. Freedom isn't free.

@dimitriwolfs9370 16 күн бұрын

My uncle was part of the Belgian contingent in the Imjin river attack where he got wounded and won a Silver Star there. Cpl Henry Wolfs.

@Phantom2316 18 күн бұрын

I love this channel

@Losantiville 22 күн бұрын

My children’s Great Grandfather and grand uncle were executed by KPA , their Grandfather escape to the hills. Spent the whole war with an American unit. His family was on a list.

@killzoneisa 22 күн бұрын

Isn't the war still on going ?

@Ro6entX 17 күн бұрын

Couple of incidents when bullets and other projectiles were fired in anger since then but it’s more of an all bark and no bite situation, similar to a Cold War.

@johnyang6969 21 сағат бұрын

In war, no one really wins. If calling destruction and death is a win, you have never really seen war.

@yangmichael1521 20 сағат бұрын

대단하시네요 여태까지 제가 본 어느 누구도 한국전쟁의 인도차이나 전쟁에 대한 말을 하지 않았습니다 가장 좋은건 균형잡힌 시각이네요 애매한 전쟁결과...

@douglasturner6153 21 күн бұрын

Just look at the current situation in each Korea and you can easily see who was best for their country 😊👍

@pablosalazarsojo3877 21 күн бұрын

*looks at south Korea birth rate 💀

@douglasturner6153 21 күн бұрын

What does that mean about South Korea's birthrate?

@pablosalazarsojo3877 21 күн бұрын

@@douglasturner6153 at 0.8 per women, they are dying as a nation

@copter2000 19 күн бұрын

Somehow worse than Japan and China..

@HyzersGR 18 күн бұрын

@@pablosalazarsojo3877 That's what happens when countries become more prosperous. Birth rates fall in all prosperous nations. Nigeria has one of the highest birth rates in the world, but no one would rather live there.

@bullpupgaming708 19 күн бұрын

Girls with a time machine: "I'm your granddaughter!" Me with a time machine: "Stop just south of the 40th parallel. You'll save everyone a whole lot of headache later."

@jona.scholt4362 19 күн бұрын

I was hoping Jesse and Co would cover the Korean War!

@markzepp481 17 күн бұрын

Both my grand fathers and my great uncle served Korea

@drewinsur7321 22 күн бұрын

35:36 in this exact segment explains perfectly who won, such a embarrassment your own soldier's prefers to be a prisoner than to return home.

@janusjones6519 19 күн бұрын

Not really. The Americans allowed Nationalist agents extensive access to the prisoner who conducted extensive work trying to convince them to defect. This was also aided by the fact that there were large sections of the Chinese army that were comprised of ex-nationalist units, given this was only like a year after the civil war there

@itinerantpatriot1196 15 күн бұрын

Who won the war? Take a look at the satellite images of the Korean peninsula at night. South Korea went on to become a successful capitalist nation and millions of South Koreans avoided the fate of the South Vietnamese who ended up enduring the harsh treatment of the reeducation camps or falling straight into the hands of communist butchers and winding up buried in mass graves. On a tactical in-the-moment level you could call it a draw, but in the long-run the South won, hands down.

@Mrpotato-gs2ur 14 күн бұрын

Nothing to do with Vietnam war, they are not the same war. You think north Vietnam really aggressive first attack the South Vietnam, before Vietnam war ho chi Minh ask freedom reunification to US but US reject that. So what start it huh. You don't mention south Vietnam dictator. How ignorant you are.

@TheFlubber06 13 күн бұрын

@@Mrpotato-gs2ur Found the commie

@snowsnow4231 8 күн бұрын

@@TheFlubber06 check up death rates on French rubber plantations that caused the communist uprising in Vietnam. Small hint - it was on par with German concentration camps.

@The_ZeroLine 18 күн бұрын

28:49 - that must have been the most awkward few hours in world history.

@user-gs9br7px4u 18 күн бұрын

So interesting 😁😁👍👍👍👍👍

@kevinwahl5610 22 күн бұрын

I can’t tell you who won but the Korean people as a whole lost being a battleground for great powers to this day.

@lap125 22 күн бұрын

So deep

@iamlordeyayayaaa7060 22 күн бұрын

I'm sure South Koreans don't feel the same way, being as they are still free.

@norrisphillips4360 21 күн бұрын

Yes ask some n Korea citizens how things are going but you cannot use the internet to do it. Also most are trying very hard not to starve

@iamlordeyayayaaa7060 21 күн бұрын

@@norrisphillips4360 I think my point was that the people of South Korea wouldn't consider that they lost. Check the battle lines the democrats were nearly overrun totally.

@kevinwahl5610 20 күн бұрын

@@iamlordeyayayaaa7060 But they are under constant threat from North Korea and they are weaker as a people. I'm not saying they should be under communist dictatorship but it is a shame that the peninsula was to be divided due to foreign ideologies.

@doughty7876 15 күн бұрын

Thank you for UN Army including US, British and all those heroes who lost their lives for this war . Korea won‘t forgot your support and sacrifice.

@indianajones4321 22 күн бұрын

Notification Squad Reporting as Ordered Sir!

@karlsenula9495 15 күн бұрын

My uncle (a recent German immigrant) was drafted into the Marines and was at Chosin Reservoir.

@PrideWang 15 күн бұрын

My grandfather and his two younger brothers were both members of the Chinese People's Volunteers. The second grandfather was blinded by the bombing, the third grandfather disappeared, and my grandfather was unscathed. It can be seen from the Korean War that the US military, whose weapons and equipment are far superior to China's, can only draw a tie with China, not to mention that China's weapons and equipment are now second only to the United States. In terms of fighting will, China has never been afraid of any country. Therefore, we ask the United States and its allies not to interfere in China's internal affairs and just take care of themselves.

@Jake-mi3bj 11 күн бұрын

America needs to keep it's nose in line. The communists won

@Lex_Lugar 9 күн бұрын

We could ask the Chinese to stop doing so many toxic things like illegally immigrating to the USA or stop manufacturing and sending fentanyl for example but that would be naive.

@cellinedillon1861 8 күн бұрын

@@Lex_Lugar Fun fact: If you talk to most of the Chinese immigrants, they would all claim that they're "fugitives" and "victims" of the Chinese gov. and are not welcomed by people back in China, whilst strongly believing in the American dream.

@EpicLouisiana 21 күн бұрын

The Korean War like Vietnam were simply large scale battles in the vast Cold War. Given that South Korea is not only a free and democratic nation but also has a huge economy and a well fed population, it's not a stretch to say who really won the War but also the long term struggle of not only the Cold War but also for being a serious player on the World stage. Without North Korea starving it's already desperate population to acquire a few primitive nuclear weapons to bluff the planet, North Korea would be a forgotten failed state on par with Bangladesh or Somalia. Also. In the larger balance of power game, we're now seeing China become a stagnating country with a rapidly aging and dying population that is on task to lose half of it's current population by the end of this century due to it's horrible demographics crisis and bad economic planning.

@brucetucker4847 18 күн бұрын

It's easy to say who LOST the war: the people of North Korea.

@pirate42069 17 күн бұрын

China’s birthrate is literally the same as the US. Wym?

@stevenbaksh5545 15 күн бұрын

Lol mention China's aging population problem and not South Korea. We are quick to forget up to the 1980s North Korea was doing better than South Korea

@3komma141592653 20 күн бұрын

This Video needs more likes! You got mine!

@covenant05 3 күн бұрын

Are we really debating over which Korea got the best deal after the war? Not really an argument when you just have to look at how the two Korea's developed up until the present day. Satellite images of what the two countries look like at nighttime shows which one is struggling to keep the lights on.

@waveygravey9347 22 күн бұрын

Quick answer, the South Korean people won. They don't have to live under a dictatorship.

@theotherohlourdespadua1131 22 күн бұрын

Because they were living in one...

@flarvin8945 22 күн бұрын

You might want to check up on history. South Korean was under dictatorships much of its existence since the Korean War.

@waveygravey9347 22 күн бұрын

@@flarvin8945 Yes I know. I'm talking about today.

@arlobones3410 22 күн бұрын

@@waveygravey9347yea but it’s very misleading a victory kinda implies the immediate aftermath

@stanleysmith7551 22 күн бұрын

One of the richest and technologically most advanced countries vs the poorest most cruel backwater dictatorship. Seems like a no brainer to me. 😏

@johnmiwa6256 21 күн бұрын

One look at the Korean peninsula from space will tell you who won.

@GrantWaller.-hf6jn 19 күн бұрын

At night yes.

@brucetucker4847 18 күн бұрын

Or at least who lost.

@zeyaoliu311 17 күн бұрын

Almost same info as many Chinese version documentary, very objective

@mustafacalkap26 14 күн бұрын

One of my relatives was about to be deployed in korea but war ended before the deployment. He was known since as Ahmed the Korean

@brandonarmienti6875 22 күн бұрын

"Who won the Korean War?" Well...look at both Korea's today and ask yourself: "Which country is a thriving democracy and isn't a failed state?" And you'll get your answer.

@podemosurss8316 22 күн бұрын

So, North Korea won, then...

@zachjordan7608 22 күн бұрын

to be fair south korea was a brutal dictatorship until the 90s infamous for using the collaborationist japanese police, and even now police violence, anti union activity, lack of workers rights, etc are enormous problems in south korea. i would not call it a thriving democracy

@brandonarmienti6875 22 күн бұрын

@@zachjordan7608 All true. But they have come a long way and South Koreans are living better than their neighbors to the north. All countries have their problems but not as bad as North Korea's.

@zachjordan7608 22 күн бұрын

@@brandonarmienti6875 until the late 70s and early 80s this was reversed, and northern higher industrialisation led to higher standards of living regardless, i don't think you can claim outcomes that came decades later primarily driven by other factors as a victory. we have to look at what happened as a direct result of the conflict ending in the moment of history it did, not on what happened decades later

@JaMeshuggah 22 күн бұрын

Conflating democracy with success

@dv4497 22 күн бұрын

Will watch the video later but from my current understanding of the conflict - The South Koreans/US won in the long run. North Korea has been a drain on China/Rest of the world while South Korea is one of the US' Strongest and userul allies in the world while having a robust and advanced economy.

@JaMeshuggah 22 күн бұрын

Robust and advanced in a depression

@dv4497 22 күн бұрын

@@JaMeshuggah better than being robust and advanced in starvation

@rafaelrmaier 22 күн бұрын

Meh... North Korea 'sold' millions of shells to Russia during the Ukraine invasion, so they are not deadweights either

@uameamalositagatanofoalii7226 21 күн бұрын

US propaganda 😂

@San_Vito 21 күн бұрын

South Korea is just a big military base you Americans have to keep safe. Payed by your tax dollars.

@HistoryHaty 22 күн бұрын

Thanks for another great documentary Real Time History. I learned a lot about the Korean War. 31:12 Thanks for mentioning the secret Soviet pilots in the war. The US were fighting Chinese MiGs and were wandering why some Chinese pilots had more skill then others.

@ericfuchs123 12 күн бұрын

Dang, really thought you’d break out your Michael Caine impression.

@rationalthinker2200 18 күн бұрын

The Chinese were never going to invade Taiwan province in the 1950s ..The Chinese in 1950s till the turn of the 2020s never did have the ships ,firepower and carriers to ferry an invasian force over a 100 miles of water..not with the non existent PLA navy then...so the narrative that somehow the Chinese were deterred from reunification of Taiwan was because US aircrafy carriers or warships were on the Taiwan Straits..and somehow the war in Korea distracted the Chinese...is totally false.. The D day landing on Normandy showed the amount of logistics and air superiority is required to pull it off which the Chinese does not have..then. Today however is a different scenario any conflict within the 1st island chain between US and China appears to favour the Chinese ..and this balance continues to lean to the Chinese as time goes on. Today no US aircraft Carriers are within a 1000 km of Chinese mainland let alone transiting with impunity the Taiwan Straits as it was in the 1990s... And with China upgrading and speeding up its nuclear deterence capability ..a head to head confrontation becomes unlikely

@bluerationality 16 күн бұрын

Chinese actually did try locally in 1958.

@rationalthinker2200 16 күн бұрын

@@bluerationality it was an attempt on one of the smaller island nearby The mainland..never was there a full scale attempt...as a Seaborne invasion over a 100 mile Straits defended by KMT military with US equiptment and survellance was never going to end well for the PLANavy then... Only in the 2020s did the balance of military power within the first island chain shift significantly enough for a probable Chinese victory