Yes indeed. They have watered much down and character is one. They/RTD seem to feel tha children must be wrapped in cotton wool. Another huge difference between PROPER WHO and this version. Whatever it is.

I get what you're saying, but I took it more as a joke against the cliche that when the cameras are off behind the scenes they're unpleasant. Which happens a lot with TV villains.

EXACTLY! Minions may play with this crap, but SUTEKH????

It's clearly inspired by "Dracula AD1972" in which Dracula, having been resurrected hundred years later decides to use the pseudonym Johnny Alucard. It was dumb then and it's dumb now! The Riddler can do this; that's his schtick and either he secretly wants to be caught because he is actually proud of his crimes (because his motivation is vengeful and he sees it as "justice") and/or he wants to laud it over the stupidity of his enemies at failing to solve his riddles. Either way he is looking forward to revealing what he has done; that is his character's through line. It doesn't make sense for Sutekh nor did it make sense for Dracula. But I think RTD is so enamored of that generic plot device that he doesn't care about the rationalisation. And for that matter; why is Kaled an anagram of Dalek? Thank god that is never spelled out in Genesis just a one-line saying something like "kaled? K a l e d. That's interesting"- if Genesis was written by RTD the cliffhanger of episode one would involve the Doctor hacking a computer screen with his sonic screwdriver, like it is a magical tv remote (it only has one button but you can program a power point presentation with it instantaneously!), just so it could demonstrate via a flash animation that the letters of "Kaled", if you put them in a different order do actually spell the word "dalek"; we would watch the letters rearrange themselves on the screen just so we are absolutely sure) only for all the computers in the room to suddenly display the word "dalek" repeatedly as if in hysterical sympathy with the first computer, and the camera gives ever more dramatic close ups of each monitor screen! Now, if you wanted a rationalization, what if his name had to be uttered in order for him to manifest himself, like kandyman? In that scenario he would have a motivation to leave a clue to his identity in plain sight. Consider this plot is written by the same people who thought you were a crazy conspiracy theorist if you speculated that the Wuhan novel bat coronavirus might feasibly have escaped from the research virology lab in Wuhan that is specializing in developing new strains of bat coronaviruses. Maybe it was the lack of anagrams that made that story seem far-fetched! Maybe if a Doc V I Nineeten had been running the lab they would have found it more credible!

@@markpostgate2551 Agreed. A narcissus like the Toymaker or the Master or Q or the Riddler might conceivably use a puzzle to announce themselves, but not Sutekh. That Kaled reveal, complete with swelling orchestral score, is 100% what they'd do for modern audiences!

The added problem with RTD and his little anagram games is that S Triad is not really an anagram. You removed the letter you couldn't fit. The added added problem is that if you play by RTD's rules for making anagrams what can we make using the word Ncuti? (Spoiler? Not safe for work). Well done Davies.

@@DoctorHowTV It just occured to me how funny it is that they don't care that most of the audience won't know who Sutekh is but they will hold the hand of anyone who doesn't know how an anagram works?

That's fair enough I feel!

Understand totally

Lets keep our fingers crossed! Thank you so much CD for your support!

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It would be very very odd if he didn't. He 'lives' down the road! No wait... what? He's off planet in his TARDIS? With Donna? Oh I see ... how convenient.... what? Oh and in the TARDIS? Which Sutekh is hiding in...? Hmmmmm.....

​@@WhosViewsHe had a different Tardis.

It's all he can do. Being a writer calls for imagination.

And one we can never let him forget....

Isn't it though, but the signs were there for all to see, we just didn't want to see them.

Yes! But RTD has made him into a God. Hmmmm

Brilliant!!!

hahahahhaah that's fab @Mslaur13! But don't blame me if you do! LOL

Good point!

Totally agree Meddling. We are of course now seeing the beginning of a breakdown that will last for the rest of the year as this particular section of fandom deny reality. But they do that on a daily basis anyway.

LOL! On the button!

Thanks for watching Lynne!

Another confusing element. It's with Tennant 14th incarnation. Down the road from UNIT. And Sutekh is inside it....

Don't joke about things like that. It could happen.

That made me chuckle

His.

Not many according to the feeling here in the UK!

And not in Osirian? Good Point

The sad thing is, he thinks he's good...

You get no arguement from me! Hope you well!

Good points. As I said in the show, I just wish he'd started with this sort of writing and maybe, just maybe the series would have been stronger and successful. Thank you so much Doug for your support and for your superchat, means a lot.

​@@WhosViews my pleasure mate. Just a small contribution to future therapy sessions for the team I know watching this series has been a slog. Despite not always agreeing with you guys you never fail to make me smile and are clearly diehard fans like myself. Looking forward to The Pertwee Show....My Doctor 👍

@@dougsims4242 Oh bring the Pertwee on asap I say LOL Lord I need that so much!!

Well, we can't really say my friend...yes he appears, but in the last few minutes and voice only. So next week is when we will know how RTD takes on one of the greatest Who baddies EVER....

Scotch wasn't it? No, serioulsy, the VHS was CCTV footage in the show from nearby cameras. Apparently. Incredibly detailed wasn't it? LOL

hahahahahhahahah, ere no! Stop mucking about!

Now this sounds very likely!

Thanks Nigel, welcome to Who's Views. This is the danger of continually referring to the past, especially now the show is so old. I think the only things relevant from the shows fab history are the Daleks, The Cybermen, The Sontarans and at a push, The Master.

@WhosViews I think you can successfully bring elements of the past back. You just can't take it for granted that the youngsters will know them, so you have to do it cleverly. If instead of just having a random woman appear in every story, they'd actually dropped some hints about something from the Doctor's past coming back, that could maybe have built up the anticipation. They could have had subtle clues relating to Egyptian mythology in a couple of stories, too. In a weird way, they did this a lot better in the McCoy era for a villian who had never actually been in the seriss before. Fenric. As part of Ace's story arc, we find out (in a story written by her creator Ian Briggs) that Fenric was behind her being transported to Ice World and it makes sense of a throw away scene in Silver Nemesis where the Doctor plays chess. No one was expecting an arc back then, but Curse of Fenric manages to create out of nowhere a powerful enemy from the Doctor's past and make it feel like there are big stakes. It also adds layers to the Doctor, he knew something was going on before the story but kept it to himself, making Ace not trust him. Ironically, this revelation helps save her.

One thing about this team is that they express their views, but welcome others. They'll be happy you enjoy it. But RTD struggles to stick a landing, and more often than not he fails to deploy the undercarriage, comes in too fast and kills all on board whilst crashing into the terminal and shouting "best landing EVA!"

Thank you MasterMyles. This was by the far the best of the 7 episodes. As I said in the show, whymhe just couldn't deliver this sort of escapism from day 1 I don't know. There are still issues that a good script editor needs to cut out and tone though.

I will disagree completely. 'The Doctor' is not sexual. HE IS AN ALIEN. A Time Lord from Gallifrey. He is not a screaming, wincing, mincing Ninnie from Camden. They've destroyed this wonderful character for years now.

True. But again ... why not something new? Oh yeah, he doesn't have that ability...

@@WhosViews Just so.

Hello there. In our ratings analysis, we have proved that the overnights ARE important. Of course they are. This shows just how popular the show is on broadcast night. I've said this over and over. Prove to me that the show is being watched by the Great British public Jordan on the I player and not just a minority of die hard fans going back over and over again. We also hear that the iplayer views are not that strong. We are looking to discuss that when we get the official figures. We look at all the figures, overnight and consolidated - which are still poor - Dot and Bubble is the lowest viewed ever - in our HEADLINES show. Go look at those.

Its going to be Donnas son and his super powers that’ll save the universe.

I think that's a very good point, actually. I hadn't thought about it quite like that, but I can see where you are coming from. It seems rather obvious if you think about it. The Doctor is secondary to Ruby, and that's a pattern we've seen repeatedly from Marvel and Disney.

Hi there, Yes RTD was behind the first four series plus the 2009 series episodes. He did bring in other writes however to share the workload.

Good point. I haven't watched the episode. But even so a child as UNIT's advisor seems ludicrous. And Rose is only supposed to be 15, apparently.

Nice one!