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I believe Stolas said it best "I would feel bad if it hurt you, but it didn't". Their marriage was for political reasons, reasons that were already fulfilled. So the only reason they would still be married is to save face. I believe Stolas was wrong for cheating, but compared to Stella, that is incredibly minor. Stella was obviously the toxic one in the relationship. From what we see, she doesn't actually "care" about the family life, only the name. Stolas was trying to work it out for years, but Stella clearly was never invested in the relationship, so Stolas found no need to as well. Again, Stolas was in the wrong for cheating, which he admits too. However, Stella is by far the most toxic one.

In the beginning I wouldn’t judge Stella since it felt like she had actual reasons to be mad at Stolas but after the season 2 episode I realized that Stolas was more of a victim than Stella cause he experienced a lot of abuse and pain that was mainly caused by her.

Something I find most people are neglecting to mention Is the fact that it was *heavily* implied that Stella was abusive both mentally *and* physicaly because in the scene where he asked for a divorce she goes to hit him and he knows exactly how to stop her. You don't just gain reflexes like that even if it was an "in the moment" situation also stolas says that he would feel bad if he hurt her by cheating on him but he knows that he didn't do that and since she doesn't correct him I can imagine that she never gave a sh*t about him so I think that Stella is definitely in the wrong!

Stella was in the wrong. She treated him like garbage for years and mocked and belittled him. That would drive people to cheat on their spouse.

you know, this actually makes that dinner scene where Stella was on the phone worse - Stolis didn't hardly react to her yelling because he's just so used to it.

I don’t condone cheating, but I’m not sure I view what Stolas did as cheating with the new context. To me cheating is a betrayal or breach of trust in a relationship; but Stella and Stolas’ marriage is less of a relationship and more of a agreement or partnership to achieve the goal of having a heir. There was never any trust or affection in what they had; Stella didn’t even tolerate him. And as Stolas says Stella wasn’t hurt or betrayed by his actions; it was more the circumstances - the embarrassment of him sleeping with a imp and the consequences of this within the social circle they are a part of. I don’t think Stella would care as much if there wasn’t the reputation implications and it wasn’t discovered in such a public way. But that’s just my interpretation from how Stella said she keeps bringing it up to hurt Stolas

When you look back on episode 2 when Stolas and Octavia had their talk. You realize that Stolas was trying to keep Octavia from learning everything that was truly happening. The reason why Stella actually hates Stolas, the reason she was born for, what they expected from her, and maybe a forced political marriage. He didn't want her to face the cruel horrors he went through. He truly wanted to get her a normal life without that bullshit on her shoulder. Imagine if Octavia did learn of everything. What then?

Between the two of them i think Stella was the most wrong, because after all the years she abused and openly insulted Stolas she deserved to be cheated on well that and because Stolas and Stella never liked each other in the first place, and it's like Stolas said now that an heir to the Goetia family has been conceived there really was no longer a need for them to stay married they both did their job on that part. but anyway yeah Stella was the most wrong.

Can we talk about how great Viv's team worked out the smallest details in this episode? I can't stop rewatching the moment from the ending when Stolas argues with Stella. How much about the characters says their body language. The way Stolas steps back in fear when Stella starts raising her voice. How Stella froze and looked in shock at Stolas' hand when he stopped her hit. This is beautiful in its perfomance and how scary it becomes from the realization that Stella probably abused Stolas all these years, not only morally but also physically.He is literally afraid of her and how I want to hug this owlet... He found the strength to stand up for himself. This is truly my favorite episode!

Stella’s personality was explored a lot in this episode.

I think it is pretty clear who is in the wrong. Cheating certainly isn't 'right', but it PALES in comparison to physical and/or verbal abuse. They are not comparable. On another note, I really hope we get to see Blitz feeling bad about that night at the club. Blitz is using Stolas just as much as Stolas is using him and the fact that the crystals suggest Stolas is going to give Blitz a way to reach the human world without needing him is actually heartbreaking. Stolas really feels like he is completely alone.

3:04 Those were not stuff toys, they what I call fly dogs/ fly chihuahuas (until it has an official name) they were first seen in the looloo land episode where one latches on to an unconscious Millie and drags her off screen at the end of the episode (unless I'm wrong and they've been seen before, either they were living animals, that wasn't stuffing it was tears

To be brutally honest with ya. At first before this episode, I *was* sympathetic with Stella simply because of Stolas cheating on her but after seeing this episode, I genuinely feel bad for being sympathetic with Stella cause now we see that Stella was nothing but abusive towards Stolas during the entire arrangement and it's hilarious that she has the audacity to even think to have any ground to stand on after getting exactly what she wanted here. Stolas clearly had this childhood crush on Blitz and was only using his book because he was hoping that if he held it over Blitz head then maybe Blitz will actually want to hang out with Stolas since he genuinely wanted to hang out with Blitz but Blitz was more in this simply for his business rather than to be with Stolas so I would put both Stella & Blitz to be more in the wrong (Though Stella is 100% first place in the wrong more than Blitz) here and Stolas isn't in the wrong by any sort of means cause since Stolas & Blitz where kids, Blitz was more of a bought out friend then later on when they became adults a prostitute that Stolas was sorta tricking himself into thinking that Blitz feels the same way when really it was the opposite of how Stolas felt. It does make me happy that Stolas was able to free himself from Stellas abuse and hopefully things will get better for Stolas in the future.

Before the new ep. It was half and half. After the new ep it's all on stella. They may have been locked in the marriage but stolas atleast TRIED to make it work.

I think it's weird and messed up that we look down on abuse victims for "Cheating" in an abusive relationship. Once the relationship is abusive it's already been broken and it's weird to hold someone to these monogamous standards when abuse is happening. FYI, if you're in an abusive relationship and you feel lonely, scared or unloved know that you don't deserve any judgement, and sometimes having a fling can be the first step to breaking out of that cycle of abuse.

Honestly I really appreciate how this isn't really a black and white portrayal of a broken marriage. It's extremely accurate on how its a very grey thing that no one is really right on. Sure Stella is pretty terrible, but I think we're definitely gonna see more of her.

Before watching: I'm of the mind that Stolas did wrong by cheating on Stella, but given everything seen of Stella? She's verbally abusive, neglectful of anything and everything but her own image to her peers, selfish, and even by Hell's standards callous. Plus the whole assassination attempt thing. Also latest episode adds physical abuse along with public degredation and humiliation to the mix. So while Stolas is nowhere near the image of perfict husbandry. Going off of what is seen, he made attempts at making things work, and seeing Blitz right at the height of Stell'as 'I will humiliate my husband for the sake of personal image' is when things tipped. Stella's a status climber, gold digger, and she will do everything possible to hurt Stolis for not falling into line kneeling before her GROVELING.

As a victim of abuse in relationships, family and romantically, Stella was always and was from the start in the wrong, every red flag was there, every hit and scream and look, I knew from the start- and I am so glad that Stolas finally was able to become free of that witch. Every time she went at him, he could perfectly dodge it, every insult she gave him, he was clearly dissociating and masking whenever she talked to him, the video creator said it best himself, this was never an even playing field.

Also, I won't be surprise if Stella tries to manipulate Octavia against Stolas, but I don't think Octavia is that naive to don't see that her parents relationship is toxic.

Stolas was in the right. He was in a loveless marriage and Stella was definitely cheating on him as well, she even said she hated having sex with him so she was probably with other men. At least Stolas tried to make it right. Stella straight up brutalized Stolas.

100% stella. It was an arranged marriage, she practically belittled him every second, she's a rich snob, physically and verbally assaults him, and no doubt threatened to go to her brother if things went south. As for stolas, the man just wanted some form genuine affection and was willing to do anything to keep blitz around

I like how he is doing it FOR Octavia. I’ve known People who had to live with toxic people and keep face while rasing a child. And Coming from a family that divorced while growing up, it really emotionally fucks with you. (For years I thought I was the reason they divorced. And it was until my grandma sat down and told me what happened I made peace.) And him standing up to the abusive and manipulate wife made me tear up and cheer.

It is implied that Stella was never bothered with Stolas cheating in the first place. She was only pissed off because Stolas cheated on her with Blitzø, an imp, a lower life form. That alone would indicate that Stella was never really bothered with infidelity in the first place, but more so because of bigotry.

Adding this context really put things into perspective. Everyone on the internet assumed that Stolas cheated on his wife, and that caused her to become unhinged against her husband, throwing things constantly and even ordering a hit on him. In fact, she’s been this way the whole time, which is why Stolas cheated. He wanted to feel wanted, which he never did with Stella because he was never enough. His speech when he asked stella to leave is spot on. He didn’t hurt her, and this marriage is nothing now that the only thing it was for is almost an adult. Her pride is what is hurt, pride and reputation, even though she was the one outwardly saying she was unhappy in gossip, and tries to use this against Stolas as if he feels the same, bringing up her brother (who is probably higher on the food chain), to try and threaten him. You can say what you want about the relationship, but Stolas has put up with abuse, depression and mocking among other things just for Octavia to have a normal life. You can never say he’s a bad dad, and I hope he gets custody of her for the remainder of her years before 18, if that’s how it works in hell (I’m guessing so, as loona was adopted at almost 18).

At first it seemed as though Stella was reacting very angrily to Stolas cheating, which is understandable. You could see that there was probably never too much love between them. But this episode shows that Stella has been verbally abusing him for YEARS. And anyone who paid attention to the ending can see that she probably hits him too.

I've always thought Stella was kind off a hot head from the beggining, but it was mostly Stolas who ruined their relationship. This episode really proved me wrong. I never expected Stella to be the one who was abusing Stolas and their relationship. Though I feel like there's more to unpack here. I'm interested in learning more about Stella's childhood and especially the whole Andrialpus situation. Edit: Someone's mad in the comments, lmao

Yes, Stolas cheated on Stella with Blitzø which was because he was drunk and did have a crush on him when they were kids while he was arranged to be married to her at such a young age. But, I honestly thought Stella was a good person during the pilot, but now that we got the backstory, Stella is more to blame because of how abusive she is (both emotionally and physically based on how Stolas caught her arm before she smacked him, implying that she has slapped him before.) She more wanted the status than an happy marriage, Stolas tried everything to keep her comfortable and happy while taking care of Octavia. All she wants is the benefits of being married into a higher status.

I think blitz and stolas DO love each other in the truest, purest form, but all of their past baggage has made it impossible for them to have a proper relationship without some SERIOUS work and proper communication. Stolas did do blitz wrong and used him, but blitz also did stolas wrong too and was also using him. Deep down they both crave someone who truly loves them, and I believe by the end of season 2 they would definitely start a genuine relationship built on trust and love, however the road to that relationship will be long, difficult, and full of emotion.

Even though I don't agree with him cheating on his wife. I'm going to be honest Stella is a heartless nut Job. And I'm so proud of him for finally kicking her out. I really hope you find someone who truly loves him. It's yet to be seen if it's blitz or someone else

I keep seeing people reiterating that they don’t agree with cheating, and I feel like that misses the plot. That’s basically wearing blinders where you ignore the dynamics of their relationship and choose to think in terms of marriage as we know it. This was a forced political agreement. It was not, in any sense, a marriage between two lovers who wanted to make vows and be together forever. Therefore, cheating is not held to the same standard, at all. The only reason cheating is bad is it is a breach of trust and commitment. There’s neither trust nor commitment in their relationship to breach, so to still harp on Stolas cheating feels like an attempt to still justify Stella or an attempt to have two guilty people. Let’s just face the facts as they’re laid out, the canon. Their relationship was forced. Stella always hated Stolas, probably because it was forced. But Stolas tried to make it work despite not loving Stella. And unlike what some have implied, he did *not* say “to make Octavia comfortable.” He definitely cares about Octavia, but what he said was “to make it comfortable for US.” Stella chose to abuse him. And she even admitted that she doesn’t really care that he cheated, she just sees it as a new way to torment him.

You really have to read between the lines to get this but I think it's possible that Stella was cheating on Stolas long before he ever cheated on her. I think openly talking about how sexually unsatisfying he was at the party indicated she may have been getting satisfied by someone else, probably also an upper class bird. We may very well see her coupled up later with this affair.

I just loved how this episode pulled the rug from under the people who sided with Stella and how her anger towards stola,although abusive,it was justified. Chief,she's like that since childhood.

After this episode, it’s definitely Stella she was an absolute nightmare in their past. Their prequel only gave us a bit of what she was probably like with him, but it seems like she was always like that

kinda interested for Stella’s backstory now, since usually the parents makes their children worse version of themselves

It was Stella who was in the wrong from the start. Stolas finally stood up to her and defy her. She took this as an insult. Sleeping with an imp humiliated her.

I had an interesting theory that before Blitz got the book from Stolas, he was using Verosika for Asmodean Crystals. I got curious after Blitz said he does business killing people, mostly because at that time he shouldn't have had access to the Grimoire. How could he do his business in the living world without any way there? We also have a good idea that because Blitz is okay with sleeping with Stolas, especially now that we know it was *his* choice, that he was most likely out of the relationship with Verosika at this point. And because Asmodean Crystals are given to Succubi to do their business in the living world, why wouldn't Blitz take advantage of that?

"That first photo of her is basically her strangling stuffed toys" I don't think stuffed toys cry. I'm pretty sure she's strangling some sort of living pet.

While I may have had some sympathy for Stella before. This episode has officially ended that. Stolas was forced into a marriage with Stella for the purpose of making a heir. He never loved her and from what we saw from the pictures of her and her treatment of him even before he cheated she was making his life miserable. Having to take more and more meds just to get through the day. Even if you try to take the stance that Stella was trapped in a unwanted marriage too. That gives her no right to be verbally, emotionally, and physically abusive to Stolas who was trying to at least make things comfortable for her. And all she did was continue to be abusive and emasculated him in front of her friends. It makes no sense whatsoever why he should have to keep up this sham of a marriage when Stella isn’t even trying. And that he’d be starved for any form of affection. It also makes perfect sense now why he had such a hard time expanding things to Octavia. All Stolas ever wanted was for her to be happy, and at the very least have the image of a happy family life, even if it wasn’t real. There’s no way Stolas could have explained things to her without making it sound like she was in a way responsible for her family’s unhappiness. On one hand she is, because she’s the physical reason why her parents were put in a unhappy relationship. Yet on the other hand her father loves her more than life itself, and is one of the brightest things in his world.

"That first photo of her is just her strangling stuffed toys to death." Imma be real with you, homeslice. I don't think those were toys.

Stolas genuinely cares for Octavia and Blitzo while Stella on the other hand doesn’t seem to acknowledge her daughter and takes enjoyment in his misery.

If your spouse bullies and abuses you, you have every right in the world to find someone who loves you and be with them (Blitz and Stolas have their issues, but this applies to everyone) Stella has no right to hit him and he has every right to cheat on her and have some agency and control in his life. Stolas' only "crime" is not finding a way out sooner and that is NOT his fault at all. He did what he felt was best for Octavia and I really hope she can come to terms with the fact that her mother is the literal devil and her dad loves someone else and is trying to do what's best for both her and him.

I believe Stella was in the wrong, because she never really loved Stolas and she just married him for a higher status.

The whole Ars Goetia family is really interesting to me and I'd love to see them explored more. They're mostly assholes and that's typical in Hell, but even then they're so interesting. That's why I'd personally hate for most of them even Stella just to be generic jerks, make an evil character yes, but even evil is complex. But to be honest I'd say the largest jerk in the Ars Goetia has to be Paimon. Dude is a father to how many kids, doesn't remember any of their names and literally would buy a child to be a playmate for his own kid if it stopped them from crying or whatever. That on top of all of them likely being forced into unhappy marriges.

I think that Stolas most likely feels betrayed by Blitz and outright admits to himself that all their relationship was just a “comfortable lie” (Blitz gets the grimoire, Stolas gets some attention and everyone’s happy as long as they both play along and don’t think about it too much). I think that the next thing Stolas will do is giving the asmodean crystal to Blitz and taking the grimoire back. That way he’ll be able to continue on with his duties and test Blitz’s intentions.

Those who saw Impcut fully animated at the end are the real fans.

This is mostly playing devil's advocate (pun not intended) but I do feel like Stella's point--of-view should be considered here. Stella gives me Cersei Lannister vibes. Someone who is incredibly cruel and cold, but also deeply vulnerable. First, there's Stolas's assertion that his cheating didn't hurt her. Stella doesn't argue otherwise, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily true. Stella doesn't love Stolas and likely never loved him, but she's at least invested somewhat in their marriage even if it's mostly for selfish reasons. As far as we know, she hasn't cheated on Stolas (wouldn't be surprised if we found out otherwise, but for now there's no indication of it) She also seems to retain a bizarre attachment to Stolas. Not only often choosing to remain in the same household, but also being within close proximity to Stolas himself. Eating dinner at the same table as him, implying that she was close by when he was singing (and that he does it often which annoys her). She explains that this is to "torment" him even though Stolas is already extremely miserable even when she's not around. When Stolas re-asserts that the divorce is going to happen she looks taken aback for a moment, like she still doesn't believe Stolas plans to go through with it despite everything that's happened. It's almost like she's trying to make Stolas to come to his senses and admit fault, rather than just wanting to take revenge. I think her constant abuse and humiliation of Stolas may be largely a defense mechanism. The picture we saw of Stella as a child implies she's naturally an abusive, toxic person. While this may be true, that doesn't mean there wasn't a time where she was more optimistic about their relationship. Maybe she was even enthusiastic about marrying the princely, charming Stolas, but when it came to consummate the marriage she found her husband unattracted and unloving towards her. Stella even describes Stolas's sexual disinterest in her to her friends stating she "had to do all the work". I imagine this made her feel rejected and undesirable. She could've began belittling him to deflect from her own feelings of inadequacy. I notice Stella nearly always insults Stolas in front of others, and is keen on making sure that he hears it-- making it clear that she is the one rejecting him, not the other way around. However, Stella knows deep down she's an unwanted wife and it's taken an emotional toll. It's clear she pretty much hates Stolas at this point, but she may hate even more that she was forced into a marriage that was pretty much dead from the start and had no chance at love or affection. Stella likely feels that she was at least willing to shoulder the burden out of a sense of duty to the family. True, she mistreated Stolas, but she might've considered this tit-for-tat given his romantic distaste for her. However Stolas (in her view) selfishly abandoned everything for a cheap thrill with an imp, robbing her of her dignity. Again, could be mis-reading all this, but I can see a potential sympathetic side to Stella's motives and I think we may find out there's more to Stella's character as the series goes on.

I'm so happy Stolas stood up for himself. The incoming slap made me worry, and I kind of wonder if Stella has hit him before (I wouldn't be surprised). This entire episode was beyond worth the wait. The horny shift had me dead. 💀

Stolas didn't teach himself to accept being abused as love, his father and Stella taught him. It's not Stolas' fault

Perfect timing to hit the home button, was waiting for another cartoon universe vid about helluva boss :)

I can already imagine that Stella is gonna be the new Amber Heard in this season, but much more sinister.

I'd say both are in the wrong. Yes stolas cheated but with how Stella was treating him & also their royal situation I don't blame him

Stella is definitely in the wrong because of the constant insults she keeps throwing at Stolas in addition of being a neglectful mother to Octavia it's pretty obvious that in this episode she never loved Stolas and is only doing it out of greedyness and hunger for power

I'm not on either side as the episode was really trying to narrate on how Stella very unlikable and basically bad person for now. I truly believe that's what Viv is honestly trying to inform in the episode, Stella is the bad guy but I guess everybody has their opinion.

Honestly, I believe they trying too hard to me feel bad for him it is his fault a lot of this happened because of he also noted how he never called his daughter by her name at the end of the ep

I am starting to wonder if episode 2 takes place right after Blitz steals the grimoir.

THEORY HERE- I think stolas was trying to be better then the rest of his family, for his daughters sake. His dad didn't take him the circus, yet he desided to go with his daughter and even get body guards for the job. Yes this could have been a way to see blitzo again, which I do believe is true. But he see's blitzo as his ideal partner, so he probably throught inviting him and his daughter to the circus, would be like having a "family day out". Something he never got to have. And the big climax of that whole episode was that things were slowly starting to break and stolas' vision of a perfect life was being to break because of the way he treated hai daughter. Going to the circus cheered him up as a kid so why won't it be the same for her? And for blitzo, it was almost like when blitz, asked him out on a date; was another opportunity for a (blitzo) arranged date/marriage. We can see this is how he was taught when he was younger, because of the resent episode. He was copying his childhood, almost like an act of desperation, to make his family overall successful, while still holding on to his royal lifestyle, as he was doing exactly what his father did before him. This is just a theory through.

Being honest, even though I heavily criticized Stella, part of me wanted to see her side of the story, and see if it was just that resentment because of the cheating made her act in a totally unjustifiable way, but things didn't look like that. And this episode was the nail in the coffin for that theory. Being honest, I admitted that Stolas cheating was something that was bad, if understandable due to the sittuation, now I don't even feel that. At this point, I am more interested in Stolas getting free from his "gilded jail", because honestly, after seeing the person he is, and the things he has gone through, the man deserves to know what real love feels like, and find someone who truly cares for him. I want him to be happy after so much pain. And what happened at the end of the episode, definitely is the step in that direction. Stella is not a character I can feel sympathy for, because she was not only agressive and cruel in a way that many abusers are to their couple, but also, because she doesn't even feel remorse for it, like Stolas said it "I would feel bad if it hurt you, but it didn't". What Stella got mad for was not being cheated on, but the fact that someone she considers so beneath her slept with her husband, and her husband, who she also feels inferior to her (after all, she disrespects him knowing he is close, and even looks at him before saying "What a pathetic man"). Honestly, yeah, Stolas was agresive in the way to deliver the "we're getting a divorce" line, but honestly, can someone really blame him, just being a little more enthusiastic about getting away from someone like that, and still, he tried to act as if things were ok as much as possible in the dinner when they were both together for their daughter (even though, she was in HIS house), while she was screaming about how she wanted him dead to the assassin she hired to kill him. No matter what happened, there's no way I can feel any sort of remorse for her, went past the point of no return. Blitzo and Stolas, on the other hand, they are a lot more nuanced as a couple, and I can feel wrong for both of them, and more or less understand how they have been hurt for what happened (their relationship is also a rocky one, but not for the same reasons). I honestly hope they can end up together, because at the end of the day, they seem to love each other, even if it all started for mutual gain, I don't think it's that anymore, even though none of them is willing to give the next step

It makes me happy that something that is free and mostly better than most things today is just one click away. The episodes always feel like a warm hug aswell so that's a plus

I think the most telling is their portraits. In every picture of him and Octavia both have genuine smiles, but any time he's seen with Stella both have a look of contempt or misery. He loathes his wife for the life he's forced to share with her, but he loves the daughter they created so much and it shows. You really get more of an understanding of Stolas's rambling to her as they sit in the ride and he's unable to convey why he and her mother hate each other; they were an arranged marriage that never loved each other.

I had a lot of mixed emotions about stella at the start but the last episode really cleared it up, like obviously you'd be super angry if your partner cheated on you, but if you've been purposefully tormenting them even before that happened then you're clearly in the wrong + she's taking way too much credit. if someone cheats on you then first thing would probably be cutting contact completely but stella just goes and rubs it in, so yeah stella's deffo in the wrong here, not to mention she's literally trying to kill stolas lol

Stolas was treated horribly by Stella but we don't know how it started. Maybe Stella started being mean to him because he was uninterested, never showed interest in her, never enjoyed their time together etc.

You posted another video?! Thanks so much!

As Stolas says, he tried to make the relationship and family work, just to be criticized and judged even before he "cheated" on her.

The way that Stolas talks about his family really says alot about how neglected he actually was as a child, when he was given that book was most likely one of the longest amounts of time they had spent together. Not gonna lie though, Stolas is speaking for every domestic abuse victim when he straight up tells her how it is and stops her backhand.

i feel like people keep forgetting this is all set in HELL. i mean other denisens laughed Moxie and Millie out of the club for being wholesome, so i think a more relaxed standard of morality should be applied to everyone

I loved the new episode, and excited for the new content my man.

Honestly even early on it was hinted that Stella wasn't upset about the cheating but about the station of the one cheated with and it getting out. She only really cares about her station and status. I at least gave her a bit of leeway early on thought because cheating is still a betrayal in a relationship. But with this episode....there was no relationship. They never cared about each other and Stella never even pretended, with Stolas suffering through mental and physical abuse for years and years if just for the sake of the daughter he created. Which makes it even sadder because the cheating ended up hurting her and made her home not feel like home, her home life only being something that only came to be due to her father suffering in silence for so much of his life. Overall though their entire marriage is basically a sham and there was never any love, trust, or care there to begin with, especially from Stella's side, which makes the cheating only really feel like that in the legal sense. Stella was an abusive, toxic person and Stolas was locked into being around her so I can understand Stolas wanting to have something with someone who he actually cares for and can feel comfort with, even if he knows he is being used there too. Though on the topic of Blitz the reveal of those crystals likely explains a fair bit about what happened with him and Verosika, along with him telling Stolas that he was already killing humans on the night of the party. Like a lot of his relationships shown so far it is very likely not started out of genuine wanting of it but as a means to steal from them. As a kid to steal from Paimon, later to steal from Stolas the book, and likely before that to use Verosika's ability to travel to the human world. I imagine that is probably what caused that break up, she probably found out he didn't care about her but used her.

A whole episode dedicated to Stolas love it. I love that his father is the same voice actor as Jafar. I’m glad he stood up to Stella an emotional and physically abusive ex wife.

I do agree with the people saying that stella is more in the wrong as she is physically and mentally abusive to stolas. Cheating on stella was also wrong but it is nothing compared to what Stella did. What I am curious about is why is Stella like this? Children don't beat and tear their toys for no reason. It means that she has a lot of pent up anger and no one to get it out on. So she made her toys her outlet and now Stolas is her outlet. She dosent really care about Octavia. Is she simply being a bratty daughter of a wealthy family or is there more to it? Her brother could be a reason since sibling rivalry is normal but in wealthy families, it's usually more then rivalry because of comparison

3:06 Those are not stuffed toys but real pets in hell. Valentino had one called Queef.

Really hyped for the Cartoon Universe movie, it looks so cool. :)

the one thing I hate about this debate is that people keep acting like stolas is a " sweet uwu baby " it's so upsetting he's not innocent at all and don't think I'm trying to defend Stella because I'm not which brings me to another thing I hate about this damn debate anytime someone brings up the wrongs of stolas people instantly think you're trying to defend Stella which is completely idiotic neither of the two are in anyway shape or form right Stella leans more on the wrong side while stolas leans closer to the right he isn't in the Right

I'm not gonna lie I'm kinda upset on how she was portrayed, they have so much potential to give her depth, people seem to forget she was ALSO forced into marriage. Maybe she wasn't held in such high regards in her family constantly being told she only need to marry someone high ranking and have their kid no matter what she wants? That's bound to mess somebody up, stolas is way higher rank than her, hes a goetic prince and she's just a noble family's daughter, yet here it kinda feels like they went the lazy route with her "Spoiled rich girl who only cares about herself" why does she have way more power than stolas? I feel like they did this just to make her another antagonistic

I think it’s worth noting that in abusive relationships like this, it’s usually not as simple as getting a divorce or breaking up with the abusive party, because more often than not they hold some sort of illusion of authority over the victim (I say illusion because technically they don’t have any power, but rather it’s the fact that they can easily threaten/manipulate/guilt trip the victim into staying). Stolas cheating on Stella was probably his only way out of the relationship.

The animation looks so awesome

To be quite honest, after watching the most recent episode, I was expecting Stella would at least show a little genuine emotion, but it seems unlikely. I wanted to feel bad for her because I believed she had a legitimate reason to be upset, but when I discovered she was the toxic one, I was let down. Yes, Stolas' cheating was wrong, but I'm not sure what Stella was expecting for. Likewise, Stolas had already stated that their Goetia family heir had been established, therefore there was really no purpose in continuing their marriage as they had already fulfilled their obligation to create an heir. Even worse, Stella could care less that Stolas's infidelity was wrong on its own and believed that the imp with whom he had an affair was to blame. She hated imps, which is why she was furious when Blitz told her outright that he had an affair with her husband. He always found Stella to be rude, egotistical, self-centered, and vain, but the violence only begins when she discovers Stolas's adultery, which is truly awful. I still think there's a chance that a later episode may disclose Stella's true character and maybe even show that she has good intentions. But it's improbable. So, yes, she is undoubtedly at fault.

Stella was abusive even before Stolas slept with blitz

This episode really made me feel bad for stoles and I always did sense something was off between Stella and stolas relationship from the get go.And idk if anyone noticed but stoles is taking some sort of happy pills its that small detail that really shows stoles is unhappy and trying to look happy for the public eye, his family and Octavia. A very small and sad detail in this whole character.

I love Stella’s character and her voice actress’ performance. Just so interesting and engaging my eyes were glued to the screen whenever she was on.

I always thought they were both to blame for the failure of their marriage. Before this episode Stella was always shown as an aristocrat prick that thinks only of herself. And Stolas was never a good father, although he loved Octavia, he never tried to understand her and would rather buy her happiness instead of actually solving any family problem. This episode basically shifted all the blame to Stella by presenting her as a purely evil abuser with not even a single saving grace. I'm not really happy with Stella being such a 1-dimentional villain, a pure evil that needs to be stopped. I really hope they will give her more complex backstory and personality because in a show where every major character has a reason to behave the way they behave, she really stands out in a bad way. I really liked the idea that Stolas had a problem with no easy solution. In order to be who he really is and follow his true feeling he would need to destroy his family. It would have been so brave for them to tackle such a hard and complex issue. But no, I see they are going for the easy answer. Stella bad. Remove her = everyone happy.

Love this

Not much I can add that likely hasn't already been said but this episode felt like we were being beaten over the head and told who too side with other than letting it happen naturally. Stellas abuse should have been spread out among multiple episodes, so we slowly see her for the evil creature she seems to be (I say seems to leave some wiggle room in case we find out she was taught to be that way, I would not put it past Goitia royalty to teach their kids to be abusive.) and then coming to Stolas side would have been our choice.

I have no Earthly idea what is going on but your voice actor for Blitzo saying you'll never make it into the show was spot on!

Honestly, it feels like we have finally been filled in on an abusive celeb relationship. It was easy to make excuses for Stella until we got the full picture.

Really hope they don’t turn Stella into a one dimensional villain type. I want her past to be explored more. People aren’t born bad theyre made that why by their experiences. I wanna know how she became the way that she is, not that it would excuse her or her actions but it would give much needed insight to this so far underdeveloped character.

The "okay but you two have the same exact plot" line was perfect 😂

Love this and we r waiting for episode 2 season 2 but I love the first episode

both were put in that situation without any of the adults considering the outcomes, but stolas never hurt stella, and i think is pretty clear that she hurt him a lot(probably just not verbally by the way he flinches and backs off when she lifit her arm at him) and clearly on purpose, even mocking him loudly in front of a party, him cheating is not fine either but also she kinda deserved it.

I think that stolas was wrong for cheating on her because of the emotional effect that it had on Octavia but honestly a Stella didn't drive him to that point it wouldn't have happened. Have any self-control.

Those 'dogs' in the picture isn't stuffed toys. They are actual species that are used as pets. We've seen them before, both in the posts from 'Vox' where he had a pet called "Queef" (sp?) and then at the end of S1 Ep2, one these dragged Millie off screen.

Well if you watched the episode of season 2 Stolas said he'd feel bad to hurt Stella but he didn't do that. She and him were arranged marriage and for one reason to precaution an heir to the family nothing more. Even though he tried so many years to make it comfortable for both him and Stella but alas it wasn't enough, the only reason he had to put up with Stella's constant insult's and cruelty was for Octavia to have a normal life.

I actually still have quite of a soft spot for Stella. After all, don't forget. This was an arranged marriage for her aswell. Not only that she had to "pretend to want to have sex with him" meaning she had to get pregnant even though she didn't want to. The child wasn't her choice, because they were both supposed to create an heir to the throne. You're supposed to have a choice in getting pregnant. Stella didn't. Also, Famous people who fall down from their status get sent to rehab as we now know from episode 2. Stolas leaving Stella means she would be given a lot of backlash, humiliated endlessly and most likely sent to rehab. This could be why she abuses stolas. She wants to be in control so stolas is less likely to leave her. And less likely sent to rehab. This could also be the reason why she wants stolas assassinated, because she can get out of the relationship without falling from her status. If stolas divorced her, she would be no longer queen, most likely sent to rehab. But, if stolas was assassinated. Then she would still be Queen. Therefore maintaining respect from hell. And also getting out of a relationship she aswell does not want. So. That is why I (sort of) have a soft spot for Stella. (P.S This comment is not to back up or support abusive people in relationships, nothing can make it okay, this is just my thoughts on why Stella may be acting like this. Have a lovely day! 😊)

I think it was confirmed a romance between blitz and stolas will be explored in season 2. And we saw a human stolas with a human disguised blitz in an animatic, so I don’t believe there’s a breakup. But definitely a needed talking to and complete transparency. Both stolas and blitz have suffered. Blitz doesn’t believe stolas loves him or that blitz deserves it. Stolas is barely now realizing how blitz was annoyed with their arrangement at the beginning he doesn’t realize blitz has developed feelings for him. So much communication Needs to happen. Not to mention the kind of drama stolas will go through with his divorce

Oh, so that's what the purpose of the Asmodean crystals was... totally passed over my head. But I knew it was important.

It was an arranged marriage, Stolas is not straight... It was doomed from the start. (Stolas didn't even really cheat tbh)

Personally, I think they both are esomewhat in the wrong, but Stella is definitely more at fault here; but at the same time, their parents are the ones who paired them together, forcefully, so really they are both victims of their parents decisions and @buse Of course, just beacuse you've gone through trauma and @buse doesn't mean any of your actions are correct, understandable yes but not justified, because the victom...is their own person, they make their own decisions We can actually kinda see their is Stella and stoles, dealing with Octavia: Stella seems to have continued the neglect both their familys contained, while stoles broke it

Awesome trailer

Dude that movie is gunna be awesome

I wouldn’t be surprised if Andrealphus ends up becoming a bossy CEO of sorts over I.M.P., taking over Stolas’ role in Hell, and by proxy, his grimoire. I could imagine him using it as an asset and diminishing Blitz from his boss position. Perhaps even Millie and Moxxie would be affected, leaving the business in turn leading to their own personal problems.