FPTP is an absolute clownhouse.

Have the Conservatives tried being competent? That might do the trick

I love how impartial toycat is. Makes me feel educated rather than demeaned/praised.

Big problem is they lose too much, 10+ cabinet ministers (which are notable MPs) lost their seats while the notable MP who reelected are more toward right(Kemi, Patil or Braverman). So they dont have much candidates to pick

"sussy big chunges" - nigel

In the 21st-century, Brits wanted a conservative government. Unfortunately, the Conservative Party is anything but “conservative“. Not patriotic, not fiscally responsible, not defenders of border. It lost due to self-inflicted wounds.

Man how the f are you so energetic? Is it Redbull? Coke?

"left wing majority" and it's kier starmers labour lmao

Wait, aren’t you the Minecraft guy. Polar bear in Texas

A fourth strategy is the CDU/CSU of Germany. You make an agreement with UK Reform to only campaign in specific areas of the country. Conservative would then be competing in 300 odd seats and the UK Reform would do the same without them both being on the ballot at the same time. This will focus money and effort on a smaller area rather than having to compete nationwide.

Honestly watching more of these vids on toy cats 2nd channel instead of his main channel! Love his deep dives into his geographical and political interests - keep it up! 💛

Interestingly, instead of moving your own party to people's opinions, a good alternative is to move people's opinions closer to your party. This is what some pundits think Polievre is doing in Canada with his conservative party.

Mark Collett is the true leader of the opposition.

*Bryan has pointed out my error. This is a 2D spectrum but projected as a semi-circle rather than a square, I had failed to see this without the axis lines going from non-voter to voter.

Yet another amazing video

The cutoff age where someone is more likely to vote Tory than Labour is 64. Meaning your average reliable voter is likely to be a retired home owner. Whose main concern is protecting their pension and value of their home. Depending on such people is not a viable long-term strategy. So they're going to have to do something radical if they wish to remain relevant. Otherwise, they'll likely be replaced by Reform.

Conservatives are done. If they want to key their seats, they should join reform.

The amount of "safe" seats that flipped this cycle is insane. Not only did Labour win Liz Truss's Southwest Norfolk seat, overturning a 70 percent 2019 margin with a measly of 26 percent, but Labour lost places like Leister South where they won in 2019 with 67 percent of the vote.

Sunak looked tired

"You don't need to move you policy as much as your messaging" would be a pretty naive cynism. If you move your messaging you are inviting the pressure to also change your policy. Both by making promises and by allowing more extreme candidates on your ballots and into your institutions.

yikes that jump-scare terrified me!

Niko has it we all know

Tom t or kimi b will be the 2 that go to the membership i think

Worth noting that Labour actually got less votes not more as you stated early on. As you pointed out, the Tory collapse is what caused the Labour Majority.

"thats how david cameron won, moving his party to the centre, supporting gay marriage and weird things like that" ok toycat i see you 💀(6:15)

With PR and therefore far less tactical voting, then reform would have more vote share and seats than the conservatives

2:55 Arrr a fellow Horseshoe theorist.

This kids is why you dont do drugs... unless you want to run a marathon after 😂

Aww you mentioned Wisconsin 😳

I feel like a hybrid approach, where the conservatives move to the centre while simultaneously implementing reform’s ‘net zero’ migration promise would be highly effective. They would absorb the reform vote while avoiding alienating its more centrist voters

I think you forgot to mention the benefit of moving to "an extreme": - Uniqueness: The more your strategies match those of your opponents, the less distinct you are, so conservatives just straight up matching labour policies does not only drive right-wingers away, but also runs the risk of people thinking "why vote Conservative when I can just vote for the party who has the exact same policy and is already in power?", being unique works specially well when the current government is a failure, since voters are more likely to go for new policies than to go for similar policies to the ones that have failed. This pretty much adds an anti-establishment touch that benefits you when something has already been proven. Essentially, while moving to the right could drive some voters away from a more moderate part, it could get a lot of enthusiasm and support from the non-voters and the voters disatisfyied with the current government, and give a sense of distinction that could help you a lot if the other government fails, and I think it's a reason why the "far-right" has risen in Europe, it ain't much about people loving the far-right, but more about wanting to prove new policies to the ones that were previously on place, some that tackle rising issues ignored by others, and unlike the left-wing which has become more mainstream, the right-wing remains pretty fringe in places, with them being excluded from alliances, from a voice, and pretty much from everything due to the bad history the "far-right" has had, but this only increases their anti-establishment credentials, in places where the far-right has gotten into government they have become more mainstream, and as such less popular or to the same level of other parties in the country. If the Conservatives UK were to move to the right, I could see more support from the "far-right" or "dissapointed" voters, but there is a big problem trying to catch this part, the Conservatives are and were pretty much the establishment, and they don't have the same excuse of the GOP of just being the other party since none other is important, so it will be harder than other parties, however, I can see how they manage to do it, but at the expense of growing the Lib Dem support and their more moderate image.

When I listen to channels speaking political, I still fail to see how liberals are considered "left", weren't they always the cousin of right wing politics? They typically pander to the whims of rich business owners, while conservatives who usually cater to those wealthy in capital like land. Take this argument without a bias for whichever party either of us stand for. I can't believe the left known as socialists have much to agree on with liberals, as you often find liberals tend to believe in equality of outcome and dispensing privilege based on a persons labels, where as socialists usually ask for equality of opportunity and want to judge individuals by their character or merit. Which is why you see socialists angry at Israel's conduct yet the liberals support israel. Also socialists were known for being skeptic of the EU, they fiercely opposed joining EU in the first place, where as Thatcher was pro liberal and her government took UK into the EU, and when brexit came about Labour were just as divided on Brexit, as were the Conservatives with the Cameron half of them were more liberal, and the Boris side wanted to leave. And this is why we recently saw Kier Starmer purging all socialists out of Labour on pretty dubious claims while he parachuted his liberal friends in. and this is also why Reform managed to steal so many of the old tory voters, they don't like the liberal agenda either. If we also looked at politics in America, a country that has always been scared of anything actually left wing, it's just 2 right wing parties playing musical chairs with each other, to suggest either of them "left" is hilarious. I once saw a politics chart that explains things much better, with 4 directions, with pro authoritarian verses pro libertarian, and pro collective verses individualistic, which explains far better why liberals aren't really a good fit for labour nor do they sit well with conservatives, and also how socialists and conservatives are the real divide between labour and tories, its liberals that blur the lines between the two and liberals are WHY Labour and Tories get called 2 cheeks of the same backside. Or how you find Hitler and Stalin so opposed to each other ideologically, while Bernie is also very different to stalin, yet these 2 men would both be considered "left wing".

I genuinely have no clue what toycats’s pollititcal views are

The US is a different animal with it’s only two party viable system…If you move to the wings, you might find voters that would otherwise not vote for anyone. Independent centrists might be a much smaller constituency then the totals available at the wing.

Toycat for PM, free lobster rolls for everyone!

In the US the Republican Party has only won the national popular vote once since 1988. So there’s that

Esther McVey would be good, since she's one of the few *good* Conservatives.

The title is misleading...it's not talked about in the video

There's an opposition to Labour after that election? That's news to me.

Conservatives should dissolve and move to reform.

i don't remember subscribing to a uk politics channel, what was this before.. pains of being on youtube since 06

I don't wanna be that guy but that 'horseshoe' is 1d not 2d

It’s even crazier how 70% didn’t vote for valour yet they get that huge seat share

Kier Starmer looks like you with a different haircut. No wonder no one has seen you and him in a same room together

probably just a slip of the tongue, but I would recommend not calling gay marriage a weird thing

keep up

LOWESTOFT MENTIONED!!!!

who will lead the party next?? *scrolls past 3 foreigners*

As someone who lives in America, I will.

I’ve never visited the Uk…although, many of my ancestors came from there…and over 82% of my DNA is English, Scottish, and Welsh; with a smattering of Irish, Germanic Europe, Finnish and Norwegian. I’m certain if I lived there and was eligible to vote, I’d be a Labour Party supporter. I vote for the Democratic Party candidates in the US.

Trump ran pretty clearly to Romney's left in 2016. Then he ran a hard right administration and became super unpopular and lost.

Toycat rebranding as a "minor public intellectual" as Vlad put it.

Havent watched the video but just saying the thumbnail shows the exit poll results not the actual one

They will cope

calling it a “left wing majority” is a bit of a stretch, more centrist than anything

😮😮😮

Guildford is pronounced "Gill-fud" not "Guild-Fud"

To be fair, the Conservatives did try going more right with Liz Truss... But she got couped out. You're not allowed to be publicly right wing these days without people losing their mind.

Niko omilana of course!(i haven't watched the video,and i dont know shit about UK politics💀)

Conservatives getting flashbacks from 1945

If the Tories want to recover from this and build back up again, they need a moderate/centrist leader. Part of the reason why Reform UK has done so well is because they have ran on populism and have appealed to voters looking for a fresh alternative to the establishment as they struggle during times of economic difficulty. If the economic situation improves under Labour which I believe it will then that market for populism will be smaller, and if the conservatives move towards that with a "hardliner" they will be unappealing to centrists. Another way of putting it is that if someone has voted labour in this election, and their life has gotten better, why would they vote for the more radical option, which includes both extremes of the political spectrum and reform UK.

I feel that Suella Braverman will be the New Tory Leader.

Constantly saying 2D when talking about left-right is infuriating

Theres a lot of alt-right people in this comment section who appear to know little about UK politics

If Labour does not deliver people will seek a new alternative, which is worryingly because people will fall for populism. As a result, I fear that reform is going to surge massively because neither the Tories or Labour will deliver. I predict this because there is a significant shortage of money in the pot and the fact that external factors will influence this governments behaviour. To be honest I think the chances are reform are going to be potentially the next opposition.

Wonder when Naughty Nigel will join the Conservatives, itll be the only way he can hold labour to account

bro is going bald

one problem i have with these videos on the uk election is that people put the conservatives on the right wing of the spectrum. They are not right wing. They are probably exactly center or even a little left of center. Reform should be at the position you have the conservatives on. The reason they dropped so many votes this election is because the people on the right wing of the spectrum decided to not vote for them since they are not right wing. If they try to go even further left, then they will destroy themselves 100%.

How about they just actually come up with reasonable ideas? The state of politics is a mess. The parties need to “do” very specific things to get into power. Instead of actually you know… having real ideals and sticking by them. Even reform are no better.

Farage. He has been influencing the Tory party's strategy and position on most matters for years. The recent comments from the remaining members suggest that they are leaning towards a more Faragist approach, rather than trying to appeal to moderate voters and potentially become electable again in the future. While they work on resolving their internal issues, I hope they spend decades in the political wilderness, engaging in internal conflicts, rather than being productive.

Liebour will be lucky to survive 18 months in Parliament before Crumbling .

The Westminster collapse has started . Here’s hoping the SNP will join Sinn Fein and withdraw from Westminster and start building a free nation behind the border . Westminster has been giving the Scot’s the finger and it’s time to work with others same thinking people that see colonialism as the illegal instrument that Westminster has used to deny people democratic rights . If Westminster ain’t listening,stop talking and speak to those who are interested in what you say and have to offer . It’s the first use days of a huge change and Westminster doesn’t actually get it ,as their only show in town doesn’t allow for change . So Scotland should outlaw all union jacks as a flag and symbol of oppression and slavery , like American doesn’t like the confederate flag . The wind of change is blowing and will only rise in strength over a short time .

We need a modern day Oswald Mosley.....

Reform are pretty left wing economically and socially right wing. It's sounds closer to blue labour if anything Conservative are the opposite i.e. neoliberal

The Conservatives moving more to the left would be suicide for them, in my opinion. There's no chance of them "stealing voters" from Labour, as their reputation amongst Labour voters are poor & they would further alienate people expecting the "Consevatives" to actually be conservative. I think as is, I wouldn't call them "centre right" at all, which is why people went to Reform in the first place (who are centre right, not far right).

Answer to the title is Reform UK

So many things in the UK are ludicrous. Why are british warships fighting the houthis in the red sea ... and losing? Why was the last prime minister not even English? Why are there people like that guy in the UK in the first place?

Ibx I'm the best kebab voter :o