Hi Bert, Thanks for the report and sharing info on your favorite beans!

Hi Bert, You are welcome and thank you for the comment sharing your Magenta love! Yes, some users get a little worried with the first extractions being weak. It's just the machine adjusting to the coffee and dose you are using. Once it has a baseline they get so much better. Our favorite drinks are similar although the Americano tops my list. Marc

Hi Todd, Not wrong at all! Just be careful with all the caffeine! Thanks for sharing your initial thoughts, love and of course your patronage. Happy to hear the Magenta hit the sweet spot for you. I read your about. Man, you've had an interesting and wild ride! Best wishes for your future treatment. I've had my own brush with the big C. Marc

Hi KJ, Thanks for your feedback!

Glad it was helpful!

Hey VB6000, Thanks for the feedback and your patronage! I love the Cadorna as well. It's been one of our daily drivers in the studio for about 7 months now. At least 2 Americanos daily for me and an Americano Red Eye every once in awhile on those long days! The Magenta is a very similar machine but without the 4 user profiles. Marc

Have you made a decision? If so, what did you decide on? You're exactly where i am at.

Iv been looking at the philips also

Same here with Philips. Just today explored this Gaggia

Hi MDLB, Thanks for your detailed comment and question as well as sharing your love after using the Magenta for 3 months. The cappuccino you are making is relatively large. Your 70ml of espresso is being made from a coffee dose of ~11.5g at max strength setting. That's a light dose for 70ml volume. Couple ideas... 1. Keep your milk at 140ml and reduce your your espresso to 35ml. Make that and then do another max strength espresso of 35ml over the top. 2. If you like a coffee forward milk drink try the flat white. When you make a flat white the machine will do 2 grind cycles automatically for more espresso flavor. The flat white flips the prep order so it does the 2 espresso first then the milk. In the flat white the espresso and milk mix more than in the cappuccino. It's personal preference of course but the mouthfeel of the flat white is very enjoyable and coffee flavor will be more pronounced. Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks, Marc. Yeah, I had already stopped the 70ml cappuccino for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I went back to the default cappuccino setting of 40/120. It's better, but not enough CAFFEINE or enough total volume. On the other hand, 23g of coffee is a lot in the afternoon. So I'm going to try a flat white with 140ml of milk, but drop down one Bean in the Aroma setting and 2x35ml. If I update this at 3 AM, you'll know I overcaffeinated.

Hey u, Thanks for the comment. No spec for daily limit but it's intended as a home use machine.

Hi Elena, Thanks for the comment. Yes, easy to do on the Cadorna Milk! Marc

Can you tell me how you do the flat white on the Cadorna Milk? I’m thinking of purchasing that model but was a little bummed it didn’t include a flat white preset! Thanks!

Hi aw, Thanks for the question. The amount of frothed milk can be programmed. If you're referring to the density of the milk foam, then that is not adjustable. The machine does not add air to the crema. Internally the brewing process is similar to semi-automatic machines using a portafilter.

Hey WJ, thanks appreciate! Marc

Hi, you are welcome and thanks for the question. Coffee temps out of those machines are the same. If looking for extra hot milk froth understand that automatic machines do milk to ~120-140F. This is the temperature where milk has best flavor due to heating and where a well trained barista froths milk to. I understand some like the milk hotter. If that's the case for you I suggest a machine with a manual wand frothing option. On those you can make as hot as you like and create a very fine micro-foam. Automatic frothing typically produces an airier traditional cappuccino density. Here's a Gaggia Cadorna with manual steam wand: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-barista-plus-automatic-espresso-machine-dark-chocolate-straight-grain

Hi L, Here's a video discussing E05 causes and solutions: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hamjl6Zqv7nZY5c.htmlsi=Oi1DxWAx0CUQHaOq&t=878 Hopefully that helps. If not and you purchased the machine in the US/Canada please contract our tech support staff here for additional assistance: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/contact-us

Hey Mg, Thanks for the comment! Marc

Hi GC, Thanks for the question. The rinse cannot be turned off. It's done to keep the machine clean and operating properly. All super-automatic machines regardless of manufacturer do a rinse on startup and shutdown.

Hi Anna, You are welcome for the video. Answer depends on what is important to you. Is it price, features, drink selection, ease of maintenance? I can say for the most part all fully automatic machines brew in a similar fashion and have similar reliability. Choose a machine based on the features that are important to you.

Hi Cory, the full drink menu on the Magenta Prestige offers a total 12 selections including: ristretto (x2), espresso (x2), espresso lungo (x2), coffee (x2), americano, cappuccino, café au lait, café cortado, frothed milk, flat white, latte macchiato, and hot water. Use the lower right button to navigate through drink option screens. Not all machines come with a filter in the box. The water filter is available here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/mavea-intenza-water-filter-for-gaggia-and-saeco

Hi DN, thanks for sharing the love! The dark roast should be fine so long as the beans don't have more than 25% coverage with visible shiny surface oils.

Hi ab, My favorite is the new version of Gaggia Accademia. It's their top of the line machine and makes the best espresso I've ever had from a bean to cup machine. Super easy milk drinks, programmable milk froth density, huge drink selection, fantastic touch-screen interface, all metal case and lux glass front panel. Next in line is the Cadrona Prestige then the Magenta. Check out the new Accademia in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMCHhpZpxLDLlWg.html

Hey Bruce, Thanks for the comment. It is easy! Marc

Hi Marina, There are so many choices! For a good strong espresso go with a machine that does 2 grind cycles automatically when you select a double espresso. All Gaggia machines do that. There are a couple more recent Jura machines that do it but they have high price tags. I really like the Gaggia Cadorna which uses up to a 22g coffee dose when making a double. The Cadorna is our daily driver in the office. The Magenta does the same dose I just prefer the UI and build of the Cadorna. It's also good if the machine will be used by more than one person as it has user profiles allowing for storage of 4 custom versions of each drink. I also appreciate the slide out front access to the water reservoir. Whatever machine you get if you like it strong be sure and set the grinder to its finest setting, coffee strength to highest setting and temperature to high. From there program a single espresso to produce about 1oz/30ml liquid volume. When you make a double you'll get a 2oz/60ml espresso made from 22g of ground coffee. If that's too strong you can back off on coffee strength. If you don't do milk drinks very often or are okay with manual milk frothing the Cadorna Barista Plus is a good option: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-plus Hope that helps! Marc

Hi gb, Not certain why they are priced that way. Personally I'd go with the Magenta for higher dispensing spouts and drink variety.

@@Wholelattelovepage I wonder if it's the stainless steel body?

In my experience, do NOT get the LatteGo. I had one, and the milk based drinks left a lot to be desired. First of all, they were miniature. Also, the espresso it made was mostly sour to my taste. But the most important reason is that despite the milk I tried, including whole milk, the consistency of the milk was terrible, and disappeared into the coffee shortly after it was processed. Forget about latte art quality in this coffee maker. if you are looking at the 4300 line you are better served in getting the one with the classic milk frother, and save about $200.00. This way, you can make the milk to the consistency you want.

Hi Bernard you are welcome and thanks for your question. It is possible to make with a double shot. With the Flat white that's automatic - you'll get 2 grind cycles yeilding a ground coffee dose of up to 23 grams. For other drinks you can always add a shot manually or do milk froth separately and do a double shot before or after the milk is dispensed. Marc

Hi m, Not recommended - it's not intended for commercial use.

Hi GS, Thanks for your patronage! I would not add sugar to the milk carafe. It may cause issues in the frothing components.

Hi DDX, Actually Ceramics stay sharper longer than steel burrs so long as they do not encounter foreign objects like small stones. I've ground many hundreds of kilos of coffee through machines and have only once run into a small stone - it's very rare. Should you have a ceramic burr go bad you just replace the whole grinder. The entire grinder assembly part runs about $70. Marc

Hi r, A small amount of water is normal - especially with the first milk drink due to condensate in the steam system. In most cases any added water is negligible in relation to total drink volume. Whenever milk is steamed, even on prosumer level machines a small amount of water is added. If you'd prefer not have it you can move the cup aside for the first release of milk. Another tactic is to run a small amount of just frothed milk from the machine immediately prior to making a drink. Hope that helps and thank you for your patronage.

Hi ml, Yes, you can use the machine without the filter but will need to descale more frequently. Filter life depends on source water hardness. The harder your water the sooner you need to replace. For water with mid-range hardness filter capacity is 400-600 cups.

Hi YH, Thanks for subscribing! If you have not been there already, here's a link to the machione on are website. 35 reviews there: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-magenta-prestige-super-automatic-espresso-machine Warranty on the machine is 2 years parts and labor through us. No extended warranties are available. We are the Gaggia Certified repair center and located in NY. Gotta take what you read on Amazon with a grain of salt. Satisfied customers are much less likely to leave a review. These machines are highly reliable so long as you do the basic maintenance. We get regular reports of well in excess of 10,000 brew cycles with nothing more than routine maintenance. It's like any product with moving parts and liquids involved - ignore taking care of the product and you're likely to have trouble at some point. Hope that helps!

Hi Y, You're welcome! Yes, the "gunk" is a food safe grease applied by the manufacturer for lubrication of the brew unit. Do not wash off or remove the grease. For cleaning take the brew unit out about 1x/week and rinse at sink with room temp water under faucet. Allow to dry and re-insert in machine. Yellow discoloration is some coffee residue in the grease which is okay. We have this video which shows how to deep clean/rebuild the brew unit in which the grease gets re-applied: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fq2dmdF4s8WugXU.html Video demonstrates using brew unit from a Gaggia Brera but procedure is essentially the same for the Magenta's Marc

Hi Jacob, I am well and thanks for asking. Hope you are too! The milk froth is very nice on this machine. It's not as fine as milk manually frothed by someone with barista skills but quite good and similar to that from other decent auto-frothing machines. One thing that makes a big difference in mouthfeel/apparent froth quality is the ability to flip the milk prep order to be correct for the drink being made. Many machines always do the mik prep first. The Magenta Prestige does that for a cappuccino or Macchiato but flips to espresso first as needed for drinks like a flat white. I would not call the machine loud but it does make noise when grinding and brewing. Unlikely it would wake up the house unless they're in the same room. I have a similar machine at home which I use in the main floor kitchen at 4:30am while the wife is sleeping upstairs about 30 feet away behind a closed door and no noise complaints. Marc

Hi H, Thanks for the question. I have not used the 5400 so cannot give opinion.

Hey p m, The Cadorna Prestige has XL Latte Macchiato and Cappuccino on the menu. The XL Latte Macchiato can be programed to to use up to 11.5oz frothed milk and 3oz of espresso for total of 14.5oz drink. Max size for Latte Macchiato on the Magenta is 12.4oz using 10.1oz milk and 2.3oz espresso. Hope that helps! Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage very helpful, thankyou!

Hi WG, Thanks for the question. Super-automatic machines like The Magenta Prestige are ready to brew in about a minute after turn on. You can be drinking a cup from whole beans ground fresh in bout 2 minutes!

Hi AJ, Too bitter generally indicates over-extraction. Corrections for that are set grind coarser, lower brew temp, reduce coffee strength. But you might also try a different coffee - no idea what types you were using but if dark roast you might go to a medium roast.

Hey Nalm, That is normal including seeing a bit of steam come from the machine during certain portions of the milk prep cycle. Marc

Hi GJ, The Magenta Prestige sounds like a good choice for you. Another option is the Cadorna Prestige. It's very similar but has a nicer interface and allows one to save 4 versions of each drink in user profiles. Also has front access to the water reservoir which works out well if the machine is placed under cabinetry. Check it out here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-prestige Marc

Hi Dulce, Thanks for the questions. You can use any beans you like except for beans with anything more than a minor amount of visible surface oils. Visible surface oils are more common in very dark roasted beans. Beans are often roasted extra dark to cover flavor defects in inferior beans. You end up tasting the roast and not the flavor of the bean. You do not have to buy beans from us or do a subscription. Shipping on orders over $50 is free. Sales tax is added to orders shipping to New York, Indiana, and Wisconsin.

Hi BG, Thanks for the kind comment and question. We get regular reports of >15,000 brew cycles with nothing more than routine maintenance. Most important is using quality water to prevent limescale deposits and descaling machines when alerted to do so. We suggest keeping the brew unit clean with a weekly rinse at sink with room temp tap water and a deeper cleaning and lubrication of the brew unit every 6-12 months depending on usage level. Take care of these machines and they will take care of you for years! Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for the tips Marc. And keep up these great reviews. We'll let you know how we're doin' with the Gaggia.

Hi YR, No, the Magenta does not have a cup warmer. That's a fairly rare feature on automatic machines. The new premium level Gaggia Accademia dose have an electrically heated cup warmer: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMCHhpZpxLDLlWg.html

Hi JC, The Magenta is a good choice if it matches with the features you want. Gaggia is a trusted name making making super-automatic machines for many years. Unfortunately I have no access to or experience with the other manufacturers you mentioned. Marc

Hi JM, Not something we've tried but I suspect it may be too thick to work well.

Hi Bea. You are welcome! Cadorna Prestige has: Slide out front access to water reservoir, ability to save up to 4 versions of each drink in user profiles, upgraded external case materials, nicer user interface with larger screen and soft touch buttons. Hope that helps. Also, here's a video with side by side comparison of Magenta and Cadorna models: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/htR7ds54z9_WXX0.html Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage Brilliant. Just watched it. Exactly what I needed to make the decision. Thanks heaps.

@@beajay1179 You're most welcome!

Hey Wayne, Thanks for the question. You've got it right. A quick rinse is fine for daily use so long as it's done within about 10 minutes of making your last milk drink. Then, give it a deeper cleaning at least once a week or if you notice a decrease in frothing performance. Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for your feedback Marc. Your attention to detail to people asking questions here is always appreciated. Thanks for your feedback!

Hi CT, hahaha - no smoke that's steam!

@@Wholelattelovepage thanks .. so is it normal performance (not to say feat) of the machine? Also, small tray under the brew group seems to be filled pretty quickly so the machine spills liquid residuals pretty soon ... another feat I guess? Other than that, annoying thing is that certain process (i e clean cycle) cannot be stopped or cancelled, or at least I am not managing it.

Hi Richard, Thanks for the questions. I'll be doing a direct comparison between the Cadorna and Magenta machines in the next few weeks. Until then some key differences. Cadorna: Set up for multiple users with ability to save different versions of drinks in 4 user profiles. XL drinks, front access to water and used coffee drawers, larger carafe with a little more clearance under the spouts. Magenta: Reservoir does remove from the top of the machine, capacitive touch interface (Cadorna has physical buttons), brew group is the same and drinks on both machines made in the same way. Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage thank you the only answer I've looking and searching for the past couple of hours. it would be nice to have this summary writing under each video with a drink comparison. you said Magenta comes with 2 years warrant?

Hi v, No apologies needed! If you make a coffee you can then select just milk froth and add a pre-programmed amount of milk froth to your drink. That would be a 2 step process. For a 1 step process you could program a café au lait on the machine with a very small amount of milk.

@@Wholelattelovepage makes perfect sense, thank you! One more question, can this do an 8oz coffee?

Hey L, Thanks for the comment and question. Yes the machine can use alterantive milks. Here's a video where we use a bunch of non-diary milks in this type of machine. Some do better than others: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLVpn5qgqrTVYYU.html Marc

Hi YR, Yes, the Magenta has a bypass doser for using pre-ground coffee.

Hi M, Thanks for the question. You can program the shot size to your preference so a single is a standard single. Marc

Hi DV, You are welcome for the video and thank you for your patronage in the past. They are similar in some many respects and you are correct with the ownership. One key difference - all Gaggia machines are made in Italy. That's not the case with Phillips branded products.

@@Wholelattelovepage The 5400 is made in, or rather assembled in, Romania. I hope that wouldn't make a difference since they most likely just receive the components from elsewhere and put them together.... I really appreciate the fact that you respond to comments and provide such a wealth of information about the machines and how to take care of them. That's the reason why I try to buy all my machines, coffee, and supplies from you guys whenever I can!

Hey MDLB, Thanks for sharing your experience with the Magenta. Here's a video I put up on Friday comparing the Magenta Plus to the Magenta Prestige. In the video I make a flat white using Crema Wave on the Magenta Prestige: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7GSl7l3y8uRc5c.html My flat white recipe w/Crema Wave... I like them strong so I go with strength level 5. At that setting the machine will grind ~ 11.5g of coffee and when making a flat white it does 2 grind cycles automatically for a total coffee dose of 23g - that's a triple shot so it's a stiffly caffeinated drink! I set the grinder to it's finest setting (always do), temp to high (always). I set espresso volume to 2.5oz and milk volume to max of 3.8oz. That's a morning drink for me as I would not sleep if I downed that much caffeine in the evening! Marc

Hi Sam, Thanks for the comment and question. It should make good iced coffee. You have options like making an Americano over ice where you could decrease the amount of water added to the espresso to make up for melting of ice. Or you could make a stronger coffee to do the same. Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc! Would you recommend this machine, Magenta Prestige or the Delonghi Dominica if you make iced coffee. Are they comparable machines? Thank you!

Hi V, Yes there is a warranty: Term (Refurbished): 6-month parts and labor through Whole Latte Love.

@@Wholelattelovepage hello! Thank you for the reply. I decided to get a new Cardona prestige with the current discount. I can’t wait to receive it.

@@voltaire7412 You are welcome and good choice. It's what I use everyday!

Hi Cam, Well... Not familiar with that grinder. But if me I'd go Gaggia Classic Pro. Bambino is a pressurized basket appliance. The Classic Pro is a true machine that'll last a very long time and is easy to service for a home user if needed. If the Bambino fails it's not very user fixable and sending it out for repair generally cost more than residual value. But the big thing is the Classic Pro can grow with you. It has a true 58mm commercial size/weight portafilter. It comes with both a pressurized and non-pressuirzed filter baskets. So you can start out with a not so great or no grinder at all with the pressurized baskets. Then turn your game up with a decent grinder and the non-pressurized basket.

@@Wholelattelovepage I've actually changed my mind and decided to get a breville dual boiler. Skip straight to a high end machine. The Gaggia seems fine if you want to spend a ton of money and time modding it, but honestly it's not begginer friendly at all, Temps can range 30 degrees or more without a pid, and the opv isn't 9 bars. Not to mention is a pretty ugly box looking thing to put in a kitchen. Preciate the reply

Hi TB, Here's a link to the manual which describes cleaning and maintenance: support.wholelattelove.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/4416303123219/Gaggia_Magenta_Prestige_User_Manual.pdf

Hi KS, Congrats on your new machine! Not sure why it looks different but think the solution is simple - just press down while turning the grind size adjustment knob. Like you were opening one of the child proof pill bottles. Hope that does the trick! Marc

Hi Rich, Congrats and thanks for your patronage! Dosing range is approx. 6.5 - 11.5g per grind cycle. So lowest strength gets you 6.5 and highest gets you 11.5. That's approximate as it depends a bit on the beans. Lighter roasts are more dense than darker so a bit more or less depending. No variation in dose weight based on the drink selected. When you first use the machine keep in mind it takes about 5 grind cycles to adjust to your beans. First few drinks are usually a little weak as the machine adjusts. Also, I recommend setting the grinder to its finest setting before adding any beans and setting coffee strength to max. After the first 5 or so brew cycles you can back off grind fineness or strength if needed. Hope that helps and enjoy your new machine! Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage Wow! Thank you for the amazingly fast response Marc. So glad I purchased from WLL.

@@Wholelattelovepage hi Marc. Just want to make sure I have the grind setting in the right place. On the dial in the hopper, the smallest hash mark / indicator is the finest grind, correct?

Hi Craig, Thanks for the question. A main difference is multi-user programming on the Cadorna line. One can store 4 versions of each drink on the Cadorna. Colorm screens are similar but the Cadorna has physical buttons instead of the capacitive touch buttons on the Magenta. Water and used coffee drawer pulls out from the font of the Cadorna and beans go up top. In Magneta water and beans load from top and used coffee drawer comes out the front with the drip tray. Hope that helps! Marc

Hey Chris, Thanks for the question. Forgetting about the price difference I'd for sure go with the Magenta Prestige. For more capabilities and much better user interface. Marc

Hi MC, If you want automatic milk frothing the Gaggia Magenta Prestige featured in this video is my choice and it's currently $899: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/super-automatic-espresso-machines/products/gaggia-magenta-prestige-super-automatic-espresso-machine If you're okay frothing milk manually then I'd step up to the the Gaggia Cadorna Barista Plus. Currently $999: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/super-automatic-espresso-machines/products/gaggia-cadorna-plus

Looks like you found our video comparing the machines!

@@Wholelattelovepage Where's the comparison, I can't find it. Can you post a link...

Hi Marc, Depends on what you like. For a classic Italian style espresso try Lavazza Super Crema: www.wholelattelove.com/products/lavazza-super-crema-whole-bean-espresso-coffee or Maromas Orphea: www.wholelattelove.com/products/maromas-orphea-whole-bean-espresso For a modern take on classic Italian that's fresher than roasted in Italy coffees try Crema Wave which is a 100% Arabica blend using only specialty grade beans: www.wholelattelove.com/products/whole-latte-love-crema-wave-whole-bean-espresso Read the reviews at links above and see what fits your taste. Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage Bought the magenta waiting for delivery! Can't wait

Hi MA, Thanks for the question. Time to make milk drinks on the machines is essentially the same. Actual time depends on variables like finished drink size. Cappuccino at factory settings took one minute twenty-six seconds start to finish on the Cadorna. Hope that helps! Marc

Hey Andrew, You're welcome! Guessing you're outside of the North America? Through special arrangement with Gaggia our Cadorna Barista Plus in North America has the manual/professional style steam wand. It's a little bit longer than the wand on the Magenta. I like the longer wand for better reach into the pitcher. Panarello wands are good for those who do mostly traditional style airier cappuccino frothing or don't want to learn frothing techniques. They are not good for frothing to super fine microfoam for latte art. If choosing between manual wand and Panarello I'd go with the manual as I appreciate the finer frothing capabilities. Hope that helps! Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage thanks again Marc! Indeed, I’m in the UK and even the UK Gaggia distributor can’t get the Cadorna Barista Plus otherwise it would be a no brainer! I’m with you. I think even though the Magenta isn’t as good as the Cadorna in a few areas, the steam wand makes up for it here.

Hey AA, You are welcome! Marc

Hi SHG, Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison of the Magenta and Anima Prestige machines: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MTU0NTk4NTY1NDg0Myw2NTY4MDk0ODkyMDg2

@@Wholelattelovepage I decided to order the Magenta. Can I use the Wemo switch to turn the machine on & off?

Hi GM, No new Magenta models but there is a new new updated Gaggia Accademia: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-accademia-espresso-machine

@@Wholelattelovepage yes waiting for you guys to review this one

Hi v, Thanks for the question. We provide direct customer support and service for Gaggia machines. Take what you read from others with a grain of salt. If properly maintained Gaggia machines and Jura's are very reliable and we get regular customer reports of machines from both companies doing well in excess of 10,000 brew cycles with nothing more than regular maintenance. It's those who neglect regular maintenance like descaling or cleaning of brew units who run into problems requiring repair.

Hi Mazin, Thanks for the question. For small office I'd go with the Cadorna Prestige. It has 4 user profiles so 4 versions can be saved of each drink. The Cadorna is a slightly more recent design than the Magenta. Marc

Hey Phil, If looking for a machine with aluminum case check out the Jura ENA 8 Massive Aluminum: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-ena-8-espresso-machine-aluminum There's also the Gaggia Babila which has some aluminum skinning on some body panels: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-babila-one-touch-coffee-and-espresso-machine

@@Wholelattelovepage thank you 😊

Hi Rob, Yes, 4 profiles on the Gaggia Cadorna machines and 1 on the Magenta. Marc

Hey j, For sure. Brew your espresso over ice and add some cold milk.

You are welcome and thanks for the question. Espresso quality is nearly identical between the machines. Personally, I prefer the flexibility of the true Americano on the Magenta Prestige to the long coffees on the E8. One can make an Americano on the E8 but it's a two step process done by pulling a shot then manually adding hot water from the machine. Also like that the Magenta runs 2 grind cycles when making two coffees at a time. The E8 just passes more water through the ground coffee. Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage thank you very much for your advice 💪

Hi Jaime, Thanks for the question. Here's my video review of the DeLonghi Elleta: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m5eKdM56ndiZdZs.html The Elleta has been around for a number of years. It's +25% price of the Magenta and has less modern interface. I prefer the UI of the Magenta. But it may have some other features which appeal to some like adjustable froth density. Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc, I have the DeLonghi Eletta Top for two years now. I have found the interface is confusing and was very impressed with your video and how user friendly it is. Basically I want to know if I will be missing out on anything from the DeLonghi if I buy the Gaggia from you? Thank you very much.

Hi Jaime, User interface on the Magenta is a lot nicer than the Eletta! Your machine does have the adjustable froth density on the carafe control. The Magenta does not. But Magenta does flip milk prep order to be appropriate for the drink made. I know you will find the Magenta much easier to use with the more modern display with color drink pics and names plus the ability to make any adjustments to drink before it's made. After drink finishes you can easily save changes if you want. Hope that helps! Marc

Hi Marina, Thanks for the question. In my experience the Magenta is a little warmer than the E8. Have to be honest I have not done a direct measurement of temperatures out of the E8. But, I have used the E8 and other Jura machines extensively and the Magenta is hotter IMO. Marc

Hey Mark, Thanks for the comment and question. Coffee dose range is 6.5 - 11.5g per brew cycle. So if you choose to make a double espresso range is 13-23g. You are correct dose weight is determined by coffee strength setting. Here's a link to full specs of the Magenta Prestige: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-magenta-prestige-super-automatic-espresso-machine#product-specs Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc that's very helpful.

Yes you are! Was waiting for you!!! Marc

Hi Selman, Compare the features that are important to you and let that guide your decision. Personally, I'd go with the made in Italy Magenta.

Hi JW, Thanks for the question. The wand version allows the user to texture their milk any way they want. It takes a little skill/practice to do it, but you can go from traditional cappuccino coarse to super-fine texture capable of pouring latte art. Beyond that you can froth to any temperature desired. Machine which froth for you from attachable carafe split the difference so you'll get a medium fine froth. What helps a lot on the Gaggia Magenta Prestige (w/carafe) is the changing of the frothing order depending on the drink being made. Doing that you get excellent drink quality with proper mouthfeel.

@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you! ☕️

Hi Dan, I passed your comment along to our lead service tech who gave this advice... Assuming there is water in the tank, because the machine would tell you to add water. My next thought would be to make sure the water tank is seated properly. Make sure there is nothing in the water tank holding area that wouldn't allow it to seat all the way down. If the tank is slightly up, it will draw air and not water. If there is a filter in the tank. I would remove it and then test to see if water moves then. A video would be helpful also. Any errors or messages that come up on the screen when it doesn't complete rinse? I'm guessing it's something simple, since it is only a couple of days old.

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for caring firstly :) Secondly, the rinsing is only not happening on start up - I see no water coming out at all. On shutdown, it does rinse, strangely! So rinsing does work, just not always when it should. No error messages come up - rather I get the message that rinsing is taking place and I hear noises that suggest indeed some part of the routine is working. Could it be that on start up the result of the rinse does not come through the nozzles that dispense the coffee but somehow the water finds it's way directly to the tray? I have noticed that the tray always seems to be fuller than I expected it to be. On shutdown water does come out of the coffee dispenser, so it could be a false expectation that the same should happen on start up.

So actually, the start up rinsing cycle only sends water to the drip tray not through the dispensing nozzles. So, all good!

Hi Irene, we're waiting for the new Dinamica Plus to come in (hopefully this month), then plan to do a full video comparing that to the Magenta Prestige! AJ

Hi HA, Thanks for the question. Often when asked this question it's because someone want to use in a commercial application. If that's you, know this machine is intended for home use. In reality no problem making many cups cups per day but it does not have a specific cup per day capacity rating.

Hi David, Thanks for the comment and you are welcome! The Synchronika with FC is a whole other beast compared to automatic machines. With the right coffee, some skills, knowledge and a bit of patience one can extract world class espresso. You nailed it, super-automatics are convenient and consistent. Marc

Hi CC, The Magenta ranges from 6.5 - 11.5g per brew cycle. Selecting 2 coffees to brew automatically runs two grind cycles so dose range for that is 13 - 23g. Marc

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks

Hi JJ, Like all super-automatic machines frothed milk is dispensed in the sweet zone of 130-145F. At those temps milk gains the most apparent sweetness from heating. Same temp range a well trained barista manually froths milk to for best flavor. Frothing hotter reduces sweetness. Marc

Hey Sonja, Choices right? Magenta Prestige is very similar to the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige. Slightly higher price on the Cadorna gets you front slide out access to water reservoir, 4 user profiles so you can store 4 versions of each drink, XL versions of some drinks. Internal brew group is the same on both machines and drinks common between the machines brew in the same way so both do Americano, true double shot flat white and flip the milk prep order as needed for drink. Hope that helps! Marc