I'm actually mad now that I forgot Behemoths were Monster Hunter references. It was like their whole design and I somehow missed it lol

Aliens did have a signature ability - they had abilities! It's easy to forget that enemies with procs were not always a thing, and while nowadays all traits have them, the aliens were the frontrunners.

Extremely good and complete analysis, very very well done. It's insane how badly behemoths were implemented and basically singlehandedly begun the trend of enemies with obscene amount of health for no good reason and extremely monotonous gameplay. When people ask help in behemoth stages, you could suggest using 5 slots of research combo (or 3 slots for research and 2 for attack), 1 or 2 meatshield, cancan, maglev, and courier, and it would unironically work 90% of the time. Sleep as hell. Also I would say I disagree on 2 things, 1 being behemoth visual design and 2 being zombie reception. Definitely personal but I genuinely really like Behemoth designs as they reflect Monster Hunter creatures, and imo they did a great job replicating these monsters into battle cats style. Darkjo and Ahirujo are similar because they're based off of monsters of the same family, Yian Garuga and Yian Kutku, while Magamojoe is a bit different since its based off Kuluyaku. And regards of Zombies, I don't think they're necessarily badly received by the community. Outbreaks was badly implemented but I don't think that really makes people not like the trait. From my experience, people disliked zombie simply because it shakes the meta massively due to burrow destroying a lot of uber spammers. Which, in my opinion, is a good thing. Zombie is one of my favorite trait due to how insanely different they play, but unfortunately they made Holy Blast and then its downhill from there... but thats a different story. Overall, extremely well written and well edited video. I think some of the things you talk about here are too off-topic and could be made more concise or even unnecessary to be in the video, but otherwise it's a very good analysis!

Regarding about design choice of Behemoth enemy. This is actually problem with PONOS translation. In JP version, Behemoth is called "超獣" that roughly means "Superbeast". If we want to make it as accurate as possible, the best possible translation would be "Monster" or "Beast". This translation would fit more because all Behemoth enemy is pictured as fierce variant of pre-existing enemy and also a direct homage to Monster Hunter game. In this context, Behemoth translation choice doesn't make sense. Especially when we already have Colossus/Baron for big-enemy arch-type.

"Surge immunity? What unit does this counter?" Dark Kasli, obviously. That's the whole reason they were given that ability.

I absolutely hate the behemoth trait because of how hilariously inflated the stats become thanks to the existence of Courier Cat.

Amazing analysis of the two traits. Aku enemies were definitely a fun addition to the game that made some rather bland enemy variants actually interesting to fight, such as Fallen Bear and Le'Behemoth but man Behemoths could have been executed so much better. I love that most of the Behemoth enemies are based on Monster Hunter enemies (even if I never played any of the games) can lead to some very cool designs like Scissorex. The issue with Behemoth enemies imo is like how you said it leads to over centralization of the Behemoth meta to the point where only a couple of Behemoth Slayers are even worth using, like Courier and Mushroom. Courier definitely played a big part to messing up how PONOS treated Behemoth afterwards. Hazuku is the biggest example, as a backliner with that much damage AND surge can sometimes make him straight up unfair to fight. For those who have played Birth of True Man, you would know. Behemoth Stones I feel wouldn't be as much of an issue if some units didn't have such a high cost. Cactus Cat is probably one of the worst offenders of the amount of stones needed. While on the topic of stone evolutions, the issue with them could be solved by allowing you play the stages multiple times a day so it doesn't take ages to get any of the true forms. I have been grinding out the Behemoth Stone stages almost daily on two of the 3 map available and currently only have Courier, Catarzan, Mushroom, Radical, Haniwa, Supercar, Armored Firefly, and all of the UL true forms outside of Luza. When 12.0 first came out in Japan, I grinded stones to get all of the UL true forms outside of Luza and even when the update was released to the other versions, I only just got all of the stones needed for the 4 other UL true forms. I got to say well done on this analysis!

PONOS on the office like: "Yeah bro let's make a FARMING stage that you can only clear ONCE per day but requires up to 20 fucking clears for a single true form to make it so that players aproaching the end of UL or returning players that stopped playing for a bit are time gated for a fucking MONTH (if not more) to be able to get to experience the end game content" On a more serious note my biggest problem with behemoth is the fact that PONOS is just giving it so much focus and spotlight in the recent updates, like I didn't really hate behemoth stuff on release (other than behemoth stone farming), I knew it wasn't a super interesting addition but I just thought "it's just a sub trait like colossus, it's not gonna be super relevant aside from it's dedicated stages", but now we are into 9 months of behemoth focused updates and SPECIALLY, Legends Zero seems that it's going to be heavily focused on behemoth, I'm really worried about how good and fun end game content and Legends Zero as a whole is going to be in the future

31:56 NOOOO THE DRAGON STACK

THE FOLIVOREAN: I'm playing both sides, so that i always come out on top.

Here's an idea: what if the cat army found an uncharted area with the behemoths in them, and had to defend their base from behemoths instead of attacking other bases? In order to win you would have to maybe to things like "kill x amount of wild doges" or something like that? Awesome video and great analysis, keep up the good work!

Everything about this video is facts, i really hope behemoths get a blanket fix before ponos goes too deep with them. RNG and busted stats based enemies make for some of the most boring and unfair stages I’ve played in a long time

*Me find something to listen while editing video* btw pretty good analysis by far I'm somewhat ok with Behemoth concept because it gives us Courier which make everything easier... a lot easier that make me worried. Courier ended up being one of the most used units for every player which is the exact same as Dasli case when it came out (except that it's free unit). This absolute broke the balance of early to mid-game which I'm not impress about. As you said, it makes the memorable stage that I love when I play 5-6 years ago become unmemorable. I only hype on Behemoth update only because of the design because it's MonHun reference and it's the franchise the I play the most in my entire life. I'll not going to give my opinion on Behemoth power scaling because my unit is uncomparable to others. In the perspective perspective of grinder, Behemoth Stone is nightmare for us since it's limited farmable resource. Even though, I can still farm all of them whenever I want (with a power of Dark Magik) but it still annoying to do.

I also think that not enough time was given between traits. Whereas when zombie was implemented we did not get relics until after SoL was over, we got aku and a couple of updates behemoth, which was not handled as a real trait and thus led to the balance issues noted on the video

If I remember correctly, the original translation for behemoth enemies were beast enemies, and I don't know why they didn't keep that. It fits the designs so much better, and we already have colossal enemies, so why make another subtype referencing size?

33:16 ponos: **adds an aku behemoth**

Awesome video, good job I feel kinda bad because this is the BC content that's worth watching, but it ends up getting overshadowed by BCU bullshit Hopefully this and your other videos eventually get more attention

"Aku and behemoth are the newest enemies" Me with a colossal enemy on my bag: 🍷🗿

Absolutely loved this video, extremely good commentary, I really enjoyed listening to this, please keep making more content and I will keep supporting you!

Awesome video!! You have a lot of knowledge and explain it all really well! I'm really happy from having you making videos for the Battle Cats Community!

Mamon was my favorite enemy from aku realms, wasnt hard but felt like a final boss

I think Ponos should be less hesitant to change aspects of the game. Usually if they make an underwhelming update, they usually push it under the rug somewhat (i.e, talent orbs) or try to fix it via additions (i.e behemoth). I get why they are more hesitant to do this as if they were to potentially nerf a gacha unit that someone spent a lot of money on to get, there can be some illegality issues there, but for units like courier I don’t see why they don’t just strip it of it’s behemoth slayer ability. It’s perfectly fine without it and would still be one of the better counters to behemoth red duche anyway

Thank you sir. This was a very informative video that explains things I never even ask before. Plus makes me want to go back and play battle cats.

9:09 Me having an anxiety attack about how tight the battle in the background is getting

Well, seeing as PONOS's new idea of resolving a unit's problems is by hiding the patch behind lv60 super talents (Kuu), I don't expect courier or any of the egg units to be fixed any time soon... All they have to do is nerf courier's attack stat a small bit and allow CC eggs to affect any B-unit, albeit make it weaker on non trait-target units so its not more power creep.

If the owl didn't have a blindspot i wouldn't bother trying to fight it Also beating the whole aku realm before unlocking cactus because I never get yellow rocks to drop, i have done every single behemoth stage and grinded the two that can drop yellows every time they show up, but since the update I have gotten just 2 of them

Fantastic analysis. 11:20 Strangely enough, this is a very common pitfall I've seen plenty of times in different kinds of games, my mind immediately goes to Afterbirth and Dead Cells, the former of which noticed that late bosses like Blue Baby and the Lamb were getting melted by solid runs and decided to make sure Hush and Ultra Greed (and Delirium later on) soaked up a tedious amount of damage not only generally but because of automatically boosting their health based on your attack. It's not exactly hard to guess why this didn't fly all too well and why we all remember Dogma so much more. The latter had a massive trouble in making enemies later on feel different from early stages, so this happened mostly from affixes and general weapon issues, late game enemies soak up such an unreasonable amount of damage that you have to constantly worry about crit conditions and affix setups, despite the fact that the game doesn't want you committing to one weapon, meaning you'll likely be wasting a lot of weapons and get stuck dealing with spongey foes left to right while you painfully watch your timer go up. It's kind of a shame that this kind of make or break pitfall is generally difficult to avoid, and that Ponos likely won't patch any of this but here's to hoping more devs learn from these kinds of design struggles.

so glad this video exists. the way ponos is handling the behemoth trait makes me hate the behemoths in general

damn this is one of the best battle cats video i've ever seen, amazing job!

Damn this video is so good, you are underrated my man.

Great video! I will say that I do have a soft spot for behemoths (I'm a monster hunter addict and I've been catered to) but they really could have been implemented better. Some of the more recent pterowl stages in particular have just felt like I'm brute forcing it over 10 minutes.

100% agree. The Aku Realms was a lot of fun. The Behemoth farming stages are just tedious

Despite not struggling on both behemoth and aku, I just find behemoth kind of boring. When playing behemoth stages, it feels like I am just tapping buttons to kill enemies with no meaning. Aku is different however as it changes core gameplay. From what I have written I can conclude that even if you do not struggle on behemoths, it won't make the game interesting as Ponos doesn't really introduce anything new. Same play style with no new changes (actually the playstyle does change however not in a good way. Cc is now non existent against behemoths with the only way to beat them being brute force. )

I forgot if I left a comment here already but this video is so well done. I have seen it at least 3 times since last summer and about to view it for the 4th. Methinks that with all the behemoth stuff out now, it has improved a little. But it won't be able to fix what it has done, and it is the reason why I have courier cat doing the 'ah eto bleh' face drawn in my phone.

Underrated subs for a video this good, subscribed

Let's go! I've been listening to the world of goo soundtrack lately

"death surge is the 1st ability to activate on death" Survive left the chat

Amazing music selection you earned yourself a subscriber just for that

I think the sub-trait concept has the potential to be done very well if the enemy units of the next sub trait have an interesting mechanism and cat units used against them don't target regular traits. Like if there's a sub-trait enemy, it can be countered by cats that target the trait or cats that have the anti-sub-trait ability.

Badass video. There aren’t enough documentary style bc videos

I think they have a road map for aku stuff ready, but Someone Get baby rage mad about Their "super cool Beast/Behemoth Trait" was rejected so they somehow manage to conviced the highers up to make the Team focus on it instead

Looking back on akus after behemoths ended their culling stages and the subsequent brainwashed true forms really reminds me of the comparison between realm of carnage and aku reincarnation. They are like the manic cats of mid game with some interesting support. Also I’d like to point out that behemoth slayer most likely came from the the magi madoka and evangelion collabs with their XL collabs that allow their tougher bosses to be beatable it’s fine for a collab to have broken enemies with almost 10M health. I hope we can see a follow up when possibly am realms chapter 2 drops in a few months

Very well worded. I always knew that something was up with Behemoths that I didn’t like, but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it until watching this. Very well done Also I thought that Behemoths were referencing Kirby and the Forgotten Land, since they were originally translated as Beasts, but no :(

Surge immune for the black duck makes sense due to adventurer Kanha or whatever the pirate girl from girls and monsters is called

Very well thought and made video :)

Can't wait for the video on Colossal since they were implemented probably just as bad if not worse than Behemoth.

i hate how commonly enemies have immunities. it's basically the games way to artificially force you to grind for more (usually new units) to specifically counter behemoths and nothing else

Anyone remember when the Epic cube farming stage was released and it was nearly impossible to beat it consistently without legend cat true forms (or very specific ubers)?

Ponos has been on something why would they make pumpcat target black beast enemies when both of the current ones are immune to freeze

your analysis videos are amazing!! :)) keep up the good work!

Stone farming is incredibly stupid. They make it so annoying to farm them and unless u get a hunters map you aren't guaranteed any particular color. I'll go out of my way to play all 3 stages for the day and only get red stones or purple. Blue green and yellow are incredibly rare even tho I'm playing stages with the best chances for them. Rainbow stones u can play up to 3 times and if they added that to the other stone stages it would be nicer. Late game players suffer to evolve true forms because of this mechanic and if they're worried that low level players will get powerful units...well lock the content behind a skill check like having access to UL first

One would hope they'd just take the L and nerf behemoths and their counters

A behemoth and colossus integrated story might be interesting, tho that might be difficult to pull off lol

Really well made analysis video. Aku was implemented so thoughtfully so behemoth completely dropping the ball was pretty disappointing, although with the reception it has gotten I feel that PONOS will take some sort of option I also really love the analysis of Aku on the thematic side, I feel the visuals and themes of battle cats aren't talked about that much despite how important it is to the game's charm. The analysis of alien and zombie were also really interesting, although personally I really like the implementation of zombies, aside from the huge difficult gap between the normal stages and the outbreak stages Behemot trait as a whole is pretty bad, but I think Courier and behemoth stones are the worst inclusions. Courier is just a horribly designed unit, and introduction of more variety in farmable material just feels lame

What a banger analysis

being a kasli-carry hearing "what does this unit counter" rattled my bones

I have a feeling that Zero Legend will expand on behemoth enemies, mostly because the UL legend true forms are anti behemoth. The same thing happened with anti relic true forms for the SoL legends, so I wouldn’t be surprised. I guess ponos meant for behemoths to be a late-game venture, which is why the farming stages are so hard, but that still doesn’t excuse courier’s existence lol. Courier really did throw the meta off balance, and I hope they nerf the unit somehow despite never doing that before. Either way, the video was really well edited, good job man

the world of goo ost is amazing and it fits this video really well

Behemoth stages were just straight up "Wild dogs will mess you up bad", meanwhile I have ZERO anti Behemoth units and its just trying to get red stones to evolve a courier cat. And that feeling, is not a good feeling. Compared to having a barrier breaking unit ready to go for Cosmos or Aku in at least my Fencer Cat. Then expanding on it with other units as when I need them. Whereas these Behemoth stages are just "You lose" or "Its a grindfest to deal enough damage" where I have to just meatshield and hit things hard and pray. And yep its Can Can and meatshields. Then wait a million years to win. Its stages that feel bad to lose your energy on when their difficulty star is placed against others. It doesn't feel like a puzzle like other stages do feel like.

All this time later and I look back on this video again and again. Behemoth is by far one of the most infuriating things to fight, especially scissorex, hazuku, rajakong and maybe even vermilingua (Albeit to a much lesser degree). Behemoths just make me feel weak… and because of the system for stones being super limited until you fight these insane monsters, I can’t get stronger like with the aku realms. At least I’m making progress through the realm, maybe I’ll beat jagando and beat empress afterwords, but behemoth is just a wall that can fight back… doesn’t matter which enemy, it’s nothing more than a wall w/ a different position. Months in… and I only have courier… I don’t even wanna true form other eggs cause I’m trying to get the major counters to progress… and w/ my luck… I proceed to not even get yellow stones… like… at all… all I feel is pain 🥲

Now theres sages, uh oh

As a monster hunter fan I love how many references are in the behemoth enemies, like the dogs signature Canyne X on the forehead

About the zombie part "the treasure boost is almost useless when you get them", I got the outbreaks of eoc 1-3 and thought it might improve itf treasure chances

Other sub traits (eva angel killer and witch killer) work because eva angel enemies and witch enemies are collab enemies, and, as collab enemies, they are always either trait less or, rarely, floating. Eva angel/witch killer stacks with other boosts like massive damage and strong vs., but this usually doesn’t happen. And when it does, it doesn’t matter much because the enemies with this subtrait, and, by extension, the subtraits themselves, are collab-exclusive and not part of main progression.

I love how this video made your sub count increase by a lot

Hello, this is a formal letter from Crucatious & Historiananic. We are currently reviewing your video, and we must say, we are disturbed, shocked, and overall terrified to notice that throughout the length of the entire video, you have been misspelling Courier Cat as Courrier Cat. The extra unnecessary R has shook us to our very core. Fix this, or our lawyers will be in contact. -Mason and Ethan

I was stuck on mining epic and ironically enough i wasn’t using courier thinking that megamojo surge made him unusable but with enough of courier spam i finally won the stage Money may not solve problems but enough of it definitely can

Honestly, i think they just rushed with behemoths. They should have focused more on akus and take more time making behemoths because they could have been such a good implementation. "Recently" behemoth content almost completely shadowed aku content and it's so sad because in each update behemoths just get somehow worse . I think if they focused on akus and then took time making behemoths , it would have been much better instead of releasing units like courier and bad implementations like behemoth slayer Edit : amazing video btw, it's 34 minutes of straight up facts

i wish behemoth wasn't a trait but a type of THEME ya know like instead of behemoth enemies having over 1.5 mil hp and 20--40k attack they just have unique abilities! like rajakong is the only BIG (design wise) while the rest spawn in groups like the Casaurian variants the casaurian variants should have definitely a group type enemy where they are kinda buffed but spawn in groups of 3-4 for like 2-3 waves periodically instead just 3 buffed and annoying things! (imo at least) edit: i also wish ponos went for more of a dinosaur-like design to be a bit more original for the behemoth instead of just copying and pasting already but what's done is done at the end of the day i am still a hardcore BCplayer and will continue to play BC until the games services is done

Hello Canned Juice, doubt you'll see this but I wanna ask anyway. With behemoth Culling (and most likely the behemoth saga overall) finally reaching it's end with the final culling stages and Ensanglion the calamity, is there any chance you'll remake this video or make an analysis video on the behemoth subtrait as a whole?

Haven’t played the game in years but still watching this

I like the video but I would disagree in something: most of the units against Aku that are not ubers only focus on status effects but those doesn't apply if the shield is up, and the only shield-breakers are Aku researcher and Li'l macho legs with talents. Yeah, you can chip down the shields but that's worth it only if you have the cash to summon stuff enough to stop the akus and fellas from walking to your base. What I think they could have done it's to give some units like Fiend cat the shield-breaking ability, similar to what happens with Zombies, since even if you dont have ANY anti-zombie, you could just use Thaumaturge cat as an improvised zombie killer and lots of meatshields (yeah, I know that exists Shigong but Onmyoji cat is a more often draw from the gacha, and im talking of DESPERATE times), while in the Aku meta you don't have the same oportunity since shield-breaking is another RNG fiasco from PONOS' hands that limits to 2 non-uber units. Also as a footnote: the shields INCREASE in health with enemy magnification while Alien barriers dont so you'll eventually would get Mexico'ed if you dont have any anti-aku uber. I liked your investigation for the video, but I needed to get this out of my head. Have a nice day👋

world of goo music instant perfect video (and the rest of the video is pretty great too)

I very much appreciate the World of Goo music.

This feels like something I would talk about in vc with the only other irl friend who likes Battle Cats I honestly really enjoy Behemoths as a whole, they gave us some of the most powerful cats, albeit being extremely difficult to beat. I simply think that enemies being extremely strong isnt necessarily a bad thing, as the stronger enemies begin to appear the further you grind Behemoth Stones, and therefore you'd have the necessary units to beat them. Basically like unlocking anti-Aku is necessary for a lot of the later stages of Aku Realms/Aku Advent stages. But I do agree that Behemoths were badly implemented to the game, tho. They could've polished the concept a lot better so they were better received by the community. I enjoyed this video a lot!

LET'S GO WORLD OF GOO OST WOOOOO YEAH BABY THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 🥳🥳🥳🥳

i love that you used world of goo ost

The first 3 traits in the game were at its realease,traitless,red,and floating The first enemies with these types: Traitless:doge Red:Pigge Floating:Mooth

Very detailed analysis. Three things to add though: 1. The way they handled Wicked Cat stage schedule is not the ideal to say the least. You have to do those stages for convuluted schedules. Basically, if you miss any of the stages due to any reason, you have to wait for them. There are 12 pre stages before you get to fight Wicked Cats, that's a lot to miss if you aren't actively playing BC. The way to circumvent this is to time travel to trick the game, which is very bad as you are now incentivized to use cheating method to progress. On this department, at least culling stage schedules are much more friendly to many players. It's very unlikely for you to miss them at all. 2. Speaking of culling stages. Those stages have pain in ass "one clear per day" restriction. This is very bad for grinding stones for many egg TFs and UL legend TFs. The only way to get stones faster is to do enigma. And there's an exploit for players to use to farm enigma in much faster rate. Once again, Ponos gives you more incentive to cheat the game. Both reasons so far pointed out that Ponos literally ask their players to cheat the game to progress more smoothly and to make the behemoth stone farming not being too painful. But there's the third point which actually affects the core gameplay. 3. Those immunities on Behemoths change how you play the game significantly. Ducks have slow/freeze immunity making cc units like Cyberpunk or many CC ubers overall less desirable. The best way to deal with them is to bruteforce with the DPS. And we have Courier as reliable behemoth DPS. Which is like you said, it centralizes the game too much on behemoth slayers units while also make many CC units to be straight up worse. Bad. Game. Design. In the end, I am not happy how they implemented Behemoth traits. Bad game design while asking players to cheat.

That's because Aku is a shape-shifting master of darkness

I totally understand the Behemoth backlash. For some reason I just feel annoyed by Aku though. Maybe it's because the scarcity of Shield Piercing units makes it more of a challenge. Of course there are other useful counters, such as talented Fiend, talented Lils, and Cat Cactus(who I got last because of the stupid Yellow Stone farming... yuck), but it also made the grind to get through a little more rewarding. I learned more about timing through Slime and Supercar, wished I had more Surge Immune units in my repertoire, and cried knowing that the only other Aku Advent drop kinda sucked. But through those hardships I gained newfound knowledge of how to better strategize for stages, and what cats I should use to help out. Boulder was a big lifesaver for some of those stages too. But then I got Iz the Dancer of Grief and stomped my way through stages till Mexico. Well, at least the shields are only 50% on regen. XP Bonanza is pretty fun too! Only Aku enemy I hate without a doubt is Midnite D and even that is a bit more rare. Aku Gory's savage blow is scary, but mostly negligible, and with good enough timing Condemned Peng can fall victim to a Slime, a Supercar, or just Bullet Train. Overall a very nice trait! Just... never pair Akus with Angels ever again. Please.

Aku felt like a pure typing to me like howz traitless, alien and all that shiit is behemoth is a sub typing..which for some reason ponos is trying to make a main type. They don't have special characteristics only being they are stronger then regular variant which is kinda boring tbh. Aku having shield, alien having barrier, red having immense dps but most of them having low range, angel dps, higher def and knock backs, kinda well rounded enemies, black being high dmg, high kb nd fast, relic have their curse, zombies have burrow ...and we have behemoth being like, "I'm just a boosted ver."

Ok, you may be correct amazing analysis of the two types but one thing is for certain, courier is OP

Not agreeing with some places but respect for making a huge video about it

On the debut stage for the black behemoth crocodile in that stage there is a behemoth with a death surge

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The beserk angel gory's wave immunity is a pain in the ass for momoko users

*defidently not me with talented Kai one shotting the barrier of the cyclone

13:11 isn't radical cat the counter for pterowl hazuku? like a direct counter to that enemy unit as he is surge immune and is strong against floating

7:24 darkjo surge immunity is most likely to counter dasli because of its toxic ability

28:22 rip, barely outdated info Great video though, thank you for making this.

Cats of the cosmos’ halfway point is deneb. The first two chapters have generally good, hard, stages. The third is a stage that introduces Axoloty.

Heard a mouse click at around 32:45 and it was really random.

For some reason after watching this video, I wanted to play battle cats again, so i transferred my account which i haven't used in 3 years and....I did. Thank you, The game is way better than i remember.

7:45 i saw this slide into frame and felt nothing but pure dread seeing gory as a rajang good lord

8:48 with the exception of awakened urs and gorgeous groovin cat, which have 30% and 8% dodge chance respectively.

i got mintama from my first 11 draw on a new account, Used it to grind some catfruit stages and sold all other units i got from the draw to get her to lvl 15. im a happy man

Playing through both, behemoth isn't a bad update, however, it was power creeped to all high hell. I think courier should've been nerfed (strong instead of massive would be best imo and behemoth slayer is too strong nerf it ponos please). It requires you to grind, grind and grind all the C U B E S required for the key units, and not key as in the best, key as in required. In my opinion lock and key design of the both of em are a stark contrast of how they're viewed. Aku obviously has a lock (shield) and key (shield pierce) you can brute force their high hp shield, giving them a dynamic feel, do you shield pierce or do more damage? A genuine question you ask and answer on the fly, it's quite fun. Their death surge complements this also, gato amigo goes from forgettable 4-star meatshield to a strong aku meatshield but not required, you'll lose alot of ground without him though. This opens aku to a unique lock and key design that allows you to sorta pick the lock, or even just breack it entirely making the key irrelevant. Behemoth on the other hand behemoth, is long, grindy, unbalanced, powercreeped and worst of all makes most if not all previous units unusable. The key (behemoth slayer) is the only thing makeing the stages take a reasonable amount of time, a REASONABLE amount of TIME, I don't think I need to explain why that's bad design. However I think beating behemoth into the ground is overdone. Let's talk about the good. Immunity, I think it could work, frontlines being immune to freeze could be a way of forcing unique strategies, how about backlines immune to wave, peons immune to surge, how about a rusher immune to weaken. If picked carefully, Immunity is strong without being op, making the usual key not fit and forcing the player to look through their other keys on their comically big key chain. Second behemoth slayer, could be a way to make a key without them being too op, yeah Ponos definitely could've done better, but I'm sure if they went back and tweaked a few things it could be better. Thirdly, applied effects, eh, gimmicky at best, I wouldn't bet on anything being too good, but it could be fun and funny, and for a game, that's important. TLDR, man I hope Ponos tweaks behemoth.

My man out here speaking absolute FACTS

At 27:30 you can see one the flaws of behemoths. Courier cat is tooo op and is a requirement for almost every behemot slay