Why America's School Funding Crisis Is Only Getting Worse (HBO)

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7 жыл бұрын

American education spending fell by about $600 per student between 2009 and 2014. Meanwhile, public schools are enrolling a growing segment of students who cost states more to teach: English language learners.
By 2025, almost 30 percent of all children in U.S. public schools will be Hispanic, according to the Department of Education. Many of them will be taking classes in English, even as they learn the language.
Schools in Dodge City, Kansas, where education funding has dropped significantly since 2009, are experiencing the effects of these converging trends firsthand.
Read "American educators teach longer for less pay than their foreign peers" - bit.ly/2hYv70P
Watch: "Make America Sick Again: the three stages of a political catch phrase" - bit.ly/2ikFCYf
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@Valivali94
@Valivali94 7 жыл бұрын
Very smart place to cut costs, really VERRRY smart. What could possibly go wrong?
@joavalgoli
@joavalgoli 7 жыл бұрын
Valivali94 Nothing,apparently by the *VERY SMART* forsight of the conservatives.
@flaplaya
@flaplaya 7 жыл бұрын
Oh God no it couldn't be the genius greedy GOP. They are *weigh to smart to make any misteaks.
@Agamerrobertjr
@Agamerrobertjr 7 жыл бұрын
It will bring jobs they said :D haha Didn't I hear that somewhere else? OH YEAH! TRUMP. Good luck America. This is a train wreck waiting to happen...
@ronnieDaking
@ronnieDaking 7 жыл бұрын
United sates out spend every country on the planet on education
@Agamerrobertjr
@Agamerrobertjr 7 жыл бұрын
That might be true but per student that is false. The country is so large that is the only reason why they spend as much as they do.
@alexc2265
@alexc2265 6 жыл бұрын
Why do we always screw the kids when we do tax cuts?!
@ohsweatbret
@ohsweatbret 4 жыл бұрын
Alex C you mean those overpaid administrators and contractors for the state should take a pay cut? Get out of here with your logic
@crucisnh
@crucisnh 4 жыл бұрын
1. Kids aren't voters. 2. Not all taxpayers in the school district have children, and will often not be all smiles and puppy dogs when asked to pay more in taxes for those that do have kids. 3. When you have a portion of the taxpayers not getting raises themselves for a few years, it's a hard sell to get them to vote in favor of tax increases to give teachers raises. Those tax payers are just as likely to say something to the effect of "when I get a pay raise, then I'll think about giving you one".
@tmgclips5300
@tmgclips5300 4 жыл бұрын
Alex C because someone gotta flex and it ain’t the kids
@Calmdowndude
@Calmdowndude 2 жыл бұрын
Immigrants need to know English before entering this country.
@EmpressMermaid
@EmpressMermaid 5 жыл бұрын
I think those packing plants should chip in. They are the ones benefiting from all that cheap labor and the workers aren't really paid enough to contribute significantly to the tax base. I know this won't happen. But it should.
@joekrebs964
@joekrebs964 5 жыл бұрын
It will not. Don't worry though, owners of those businesses send their kids to private school.
@mauricegeorge4320
@mauricegeorge4320 4 жыл бұрын
They have paid property tax already.
@AxelSituation
@AxelSituation 6 жыл бұрын
Well you can all thank Betsey DeVos for taking a bad situation and making it worse.
@alexspike7331
@alexspike7331 7 жыл бұрын
Learning English is pivotal in these kid's lives, I hope they get more funding so that they can more effectively acquire the language
@deleon3139
@deleon3139 7 жыл бұрын
Hume Spike tell that to the Republicans.
@scaryfaced1
@scaryfaced1 7 жыл бұрын
Society SHOULD be responsible for school funding. The only way to be successful as a country is to have a well educated populous, its creates more people that can add to the country's wealth and productivity and fewer idiots who can't support themselves or the families they create.
@scaryfaced1
@scaryfaced1 7 жыл бұрын
Let me put it this way, if you don't pay the incredibly small amount you're required to pay to fund schools, you will create a generation of people who can't contribute to the society you live in. This raises crime rates, murder rates, homelessness, poverty, across the board. You're minuscule amount of taxes paid into the education system will help improve your life directly, as the places you live in and work in will not be burdened by the people left behind. You help yourself by helping other people. Private schools CAN'T meet the demand for education that this country requires to remain competitive in the modern world. Our public school system is already underfunded and overwhelmed. Privatizing can's solve everything.
@alexspike7331
@alexspike7331 7 жыл бұрын
Funding decreased in Kansas, the video said that
@scaryfaced1
@scaryfaced1 7 жыл бұрын
No, funding hasn't increased. It's been repeatedly cut, mostly in Red states. Funding is only a part of the problem, but privatizing doesn't fix any of these problems. There are currently private schools in this country that teach children that the Loch Ness monster is a real thing to help deny evolution. That's what private education can get you, no standards for content, zero oversight and children brought up with a tenuous grasp on reality.
@mariamoultrie3552
@mariamoultrie3552 5 жыл бұрын
I work in public education...this is prudent planning by our government officials. They are getting rid of public schools so they can give money to their friends to start and fund charter and private schools. Unfortunately there is no real oversight for charter and private schools. Teachers do not require to same education and certification than public school teachers require. They are making public education impossible. Welcome to the new era....it’s deplorable.
@zackarymorgan2754
@zackarymorgan2754 3 жыл бұрын
Only if your poor that's what yall don't understand the black people who wanted all these immigrants because they are there brothers right? They will be the ones that suffer not the rich white people and the white people tried to warn the blacks and tried to stop immigration but yall wouldn't hear it yall made your bed now lay in it!
@covenawhite4855
@covenawhite4855 3 жыл бұрын
@@zackarymorgan2754 Education budget did not go down because illegal immigrants.
@Nairobin
@Nairobin 11 ай бұрын
@@covenawhite4855???
@j6nix22
@j6nix22 7 жыл бұрын
This is why we're legalizing marijuana lets us fund our schools and not have to deal with this shit
@j6nix22
@j6nix22 7 жыл бұрын
do you not see how Colorado has handled it they have taxed the hell out of it and have one of the most lucrative school funding systems in the nation and small business thrive off it. and in regard to minors smoking it dude they are going to get it no matter how hard we try.
@ShidaiTaino
@ShidaiTaino 7 жыл бұрын
J6Nix yea while people are using weed as a bandaid for their stress, we can use it to fund schools. Perfect. I'm not being sarcastic
@themadlibrarian2933
@themadlibrarian2933 6 жыл бұрын
If memory serves, the first $50 million annually of Colorado's marijuana revenues goes to building and maintaining schools. After that, it goes the general fund. There are two tiers of taxes on marijuana: state tax and city/county tax.
@AKumar528
@AKumar528 3 жыл бұрын
What a logic 🤣🤣 only a stoned person can come with it.
@j6nix22
@j6nix22 3 жыл бұрын
I love that people still reply to this 4 years later.
@richardredlak3407
@richardredlak3407 7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the contrast between the spending on education and imprisonment
@scottbc31h22
@scottbc31h22 6 жыл бұрын
Far more money spent on imprisonment
@justsimplygoodcooking3176
@justsimplygoodcooking3176 5 жыл бұрын
Smartest comment on here. Well said
@idontmine7215
@idontmine7215 4 жыл бұрын
Scott BC31H imprisonments is techically a part of education, since you are punishing them, so they remember not to do what they did. You may think that it’s much more easier if you just leave them their. But, then it would be inhumane
@carrotcake6572
@carrotcake6572 4 жыл бұрын
I Don't Mine right except prisons systems are more so designed for punishment. Coupled with the fact that the system preys on under-educated and low income individual whilst locking up millions of low level drug offenders. Prison sentences consistently increase and the focus on punishment instead of rehabilitation leads to an 80% recidivism rate. So yeah, it’s a waste of money
@jsebby2284
@jsebby2284 Жыл бұрын
@@scottbc31h22 factually incorrect
@gregmiller4387
@gregmiller4387 7 жыл бұрын
it's illegal to have private schools in Norway where they have the best schools in the world maybe that should be tried.
@rhi6798
@rhi6798 7 жыл бұрын
Norway is one of the best countries, we should all follow its lead
@azelo00
@azelo00 7 жыл бұрын
Greg Miller moron, this is such a low effort and oversimplified way or thinking about this issue.
@CarsonSchmidt419
@CarsonSchmidt419 7 жыл бұрын
Norway is only so good because of its extreme tax rate. Americans would revolt if they had anything above 30% tax rate, even if it meant free healthcare and post-secondary education.
@redswift31
@redswift31 7 жыл бұрын
Fist off no and second private schools are a good things considering they dont need state funding.
@redswift31
@redswift31 7 жыл бұрын
***** They still cost less and produce better results.
@joeysparetti7276
@joeysparetti7276 7 жыл бұрын
MILLENIALS, GET INTO OFFICE AND MAKE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE!
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 7 жыл бұрын
Joey Sparetti >gets into office >destroys political career challenging the status quo >goes out like Budd Dwyer
@carrotcake6572
@carrotcake6572 4 жыл бұрын
Lesbian Amazon Sister obviously he isn’t telling every millennial to run for office. But this who can should
@flarcyflarcy1
@flarcyflarcy1 4 жыл бұрын
Joey Sparetti blame the boomers they fucked us over
@ThatCrazyGamerz
@ThatCrazyGamerz 4 жыл бұрын
All they do is swallow tide pods so I doubt that will ever happen
@JuanRG360
@JuanRG360 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right!
@salvadororozco8340
@salvadororozco8340 7 жыл бұрын
I was one of those kids when I was in 1st grade but I learned English in 3 years only by watching TV and asking questions
@WaveRider1989
@WaveRider1989 Жыл бұрын
It took 3 years though? I came to US when I was 9 without knowing english and I started speaking English jn 3-4 months. Now it took me few years to catch up in my writing and reading levels. But kids should learn any language quick.
@101yayo
@101yayo 7 жыл бұрын
Teach me Spanish, I will teach you English.
@rgetty999
@rgetty999 6 жыл бұрын
If the meat packing industry wants the cheap labor make them pay for educating the workers kids.
@joeysparetti7276
@joeysparetti7276 7 жыл бұрын
In New Britain, Connecticut, it took a judge to fund it's school system when the state didn't want to. Even after it gladly gave 1 million to a school system full of millionaires. This country needs younger leaders with vision, ambition and justice. Tenacity and patience. All you need is commonsense, good judgement which is intelligence. There's experts and department heads for what you don't understand. Get educated and run.
@dogguy8603
@dogguy8603 7 жыл бұрын
Joey Sparetti young people today make their judgements on "feelings" not actual facts, much like saying their is more than two genders, honestly my generation is completely fucked
@joeysparetti7276
@joeysparetti7276 7 жыл бұрын
dog guy We must not give up on a better future for there a some who can lead our generation correctly. Give it time.
@dogguy8603
@dogguy8603 7 жыл бұрын
Joey Sparetti until malenials stop asking "give me free stuff" then I will vote for a newer generation, because I will not vote to pay for someone's collage tuition so they can get a gender studies degree
@joeysparetti7276
@joeysparetti7276 7 жыл бұрын
dog guy Bernie Sanders is a socialist. Certain college degrees and trade schools should be free. College as mandatory as highschool. No dropping out. Non compliance will result in military or prison but doing this will reduce and eventually eliminate welfare dependence and the other consequences of dropping out and lack of education. We need leaders with radical ideas. The millenials need a millenial leader. Millenials are starting to get into politics so give it time.
@dogguy8603
@dogguy8603 7 жыл бұрын
Joey Sparetti I do agree with you on trade schools but also remember tuition is considered a tax break, so is everything associated with it like textbooks, and even computers
@luisraulraudales2468
@luisraulraudales2468 7 жыл бұрын
"Yes, there are better places where the money can go, like the military" -republican logic
@aniceboxofkraftmacandchees5544
@aniceboxofkraftmacandchees5544 4 жыл бұрын
luis rodriguez gotta get that oil somehow
@jakeg3126
@jakeg3126 4 жыл бұрын
School funding isn’t the main problem, it’s the classroom structure. They focus on results not the needs. In elementary school, there’s the math nerds that could probably start pre-algebra in like 3rd or 4th grade. They should get to move on or spend more time on English or whatever they need to improve on instead of being stuck with equal time on everything on a level that isn’t best for them.
@crucisnh
@crucisnh 4 жыл бұрын
Luis, the military is a constitutionally mandated requirement of the federal government. Education is not. Case closed.
@anthonymolina7416
@anthonymolina7416 4 жыл бұрын
Schools are state funded
@mr.derpyface558
@mr.derpyface558 4 жыл бұрын
Not adequate in some areas
@iroekyjHD
@iroekyjHD 7 жыл бұрын
maybe if we could stop wasting all out tax money on military and police gear we wouldn't have the need to cut back on taxes
@animeandstuff5377
@animeandstuff5377 5 жыл бұрын
iroeky lmao u think trump is smart enough to understand that the us has enough nuclear bombs to f the whole earth they really should spend on other stuff but I’m not America 🇨🇦
@crucisnh
@crucisnh 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, you're just wrong. It's the Federal government's primary responsibility to defend this country from enemies, foreign and domestic, which means military and police. Education, on the other hand, is a local responsibility!!! Sounds like you failed civics in school, if you don't understand this.
@bris0rv105
@bris0rv105 4 жыл бұрын
Usa spend 18% of tax money on Education And only 13% for millitary www.usgovernmentspending.com/ And education is paid by property tax that is state tax, while millitary from federal taxes So you won't increase education spending by reducing millitary It's different budgets Anyway education is about smart teachers and understable books, you cannot buy anything of this with money All you can buy is equipment that is useless for people that don't know theory
@jsebby2284
@jsebby2284 Жыл бұрын
This doesn't even make any sense
@michael2351
@michael2351 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect that many Latinos to be living in Kansas
@VICENews
@VICENews 7 жыл бұрын
American education spending fell by about $600 per student between 2009 and 2014. Meanwhile, public schools are enrolling a growing segment of students who cost states more to teach: English language learners. By 2025, almost 30 percent of all children in U.S. public schools will be Hispanic, according to the Department of Education. Many of them will be taking classes in English, even as they learn the language. Schools in Dodge City, Kansas, where education funding has dropped significantly since 2009, are experiencing the effects of these converging trends firsthand. Read "American educators teach longer for less pay than their foreign peers" - bit.ly/2hYv70P Watch: "Make America Sick Again: the three stages of a political catch phrase" - bit.ly/2ikFCYf
@deprogramm
@deprogramm 7 жыл бұрын
we need to stop the hispanic migration. its been killing our country for the past 30 years.
@Vempsterful
@Vempsterful 7 жыл бұрын
VICE News With the shit you've posted today how can anyone take you seriously anymore.
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 7 жыл бұрын
Nathan Warrington Did you forget that the whole mission statement at Vice is to report on the absurdity of the modern condition?
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 7 жыл бұрын
Vasting No, we need to stop anti-intellectualism and blaming immigrants and poor people for our problems. Hispanics work harder in poorer conditions for less pay than anyone I've ever met. I'd like to see white people do some of the jobs that Hispanics do.
@mableyatts2832
@mableyatts2832 7 жыл бұрын
Minarchist hahahahaha! Blaming immigrants and poor people eh?
@pewpew4545
@pewpew4545 5 жыл бұрын
Aircraft Carriers > Education Oil > People Racism > The Planet Here in the west the U.S. is the core of our modern world, but that doesn’t make them perfect..
@Moonlitwatersofaqua
@Moonlitwatersofaqua 5 жыл бұрын
The military will tell you they hate education cuts. People have to have a certain level of intelligence to join the military. And you need smart people to build all that fancy equipment.
@pewpew4545
@pewpew4545 5 жыл бұрын
@@Moonlitwatersofaqua "certain level of intelligence to join the military". Yeah, I mean, you're the boss, but I'm not so convinced to be honest with you..
@Moonlitwatersofaqua
@Moonlitwatersofaqua 5 жыл бұрын
@@pewpew4545 No seriously they have tests. One of those is the ASVAB.
@pewpew4545
@pewpew4545 5 жыл бұрын
Holly Snow sure but I don’t think you have to be 120IQ to pass one..
@Moonlitwatersofaqua
@Moonlitwatersofaqua 5 жыл бұрын
@@pewpew4545 The goal of school is to get you to a 100 IQ not 120.
@iidkwhatnameuse
@iidkwhatnameuse 5 жыл бұрын
Schools districts are the problem. Money wasted on useless staff with some superintendents making 300K a year, all while violating the Equal Protection Clause due to the fact that just based in ones location they get a different education.
@aliruelopez
@aliruelopez 4 жыл бұрын
I’m straight up homeschooling my child. They would learn more in home than in school nowadays.
@stellarbabe
@stellarbabe 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a high school student in Missouri and I think it's interesting to hear that a state right next to me is significantly underfunded. I think I'm lucky in being where I live, we don't have a lot of money but I go to the best school in a great district. I use it to my advantage, I want to be as educated as I can. However, I can't think of any way a school system could be perfect, and we still have to push for funding. I mainly have tons of respect for teachers, I can't really think of many jobs that would be more difficult.
@wildhearses
@wildhearses 6 жыл бұрын
Geese I'm 32 but I remember in like 5th grade a girl named Natalie who was in my grade who didnt understand english at all at first- I remember her crying because she was so uncomfortable. She was fortunate enough to work in a good school system with a tutor, not much later I remember her proudly showing off her "baby teeth" earrings which seemed like such a weird and cool idea to me. She seemed confident, with a little help. I've certainly needed some help also. All children deserve this.
@southernfriedscandal9004
@southernfriedscandal9004 4 жыл бұрын
wildhearses FACTS
@JeffSimon247
@JeffSimon247 7 жыл бұрын
Vice news, can you come to California to investigate how the government spend $73 billion every year in public school ? I don't think any country comes close to that figure of educational spending.
@ishanbansal3560
@ishanbansal3560 6 жыл бұрын
John Kim sweden and canada 😅 american imaginary supremacy not based not on facts need to be broken
@lilvexeno1289
@lilvexeno1289 6 жыл бұрын
John Kim ny
@theuglykwan
@theuglykwan 6 жыл бұрын
That stat is usless as you need per capita spending for a comparison. Otherwise total spending in CA will obviously be high given she has the highest population in the US and even has a high population compared to many countries.
@alexc2265
@alexc2265 6 жыл бұрын
California is the most populous state and has a population larger than most countries. Their expense per student also isn't the largest in the US.
@shub
@shub 5 жыл бұрын
"California schools spent $10,291 per K-12 student that year, or about $1,900 less than the $12,252 per student spent by the nation as a whole." Based on data from 2013, "EdWeek, a publication that covers K-12 education, ranked California 46th in per student spending, also using a cost of living adjustment." (all from Politifact California)
@mistermood4164
@mistermood4164 7 жыл бұрын
education should be focusing on how to think creatively and solve real-world problems, instead of teaching people how to a drone.
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 7 жыл бұрын
Mister Mood They don't want people capable of critical thinking, because then they begin to question their leaders, the powers that be, and the status quo. They aren't interested in having a well-educated populace. They want people just smart enough to run the machines and dumb enough to passively accept it.
@flaplaya
@flaplaya 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah and in several parts of America (now hundreds) science books are being replaced with the Holy Bible.
@djgranny8438
@djgranny8438 7 жыл бұрын
fla playa prone to hyperbole?
@ShidaiTaino
@ShidaiTaino 7 жыл бұрын
fla playa where
@basstion4146
@basstion4146 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Von Wolfenstein I understand this because I have adhd and adhd kids are treated fairly
@CHLOCHLOLP
@CHLOCHLOLP 6 жыл бұрын
We spend 53% of tax money on the military and 6% on education. If we spent more on education, maybe we could figure out how to run the military more efficiently.
@alquinn8576
@alquinn8576 5 жыл бұрын
wrong, public spending for the military and public schools is roughly the same
@joshuakelly1846
@joshuakelly1846 4 жыл бұрын
Al Quinn no
@bris0rv105
@bris0rv105 4 жыл бұрын
Lier, usa spend only 13% for defense And 18% for education www.usgovernmentspending.com/ Education is about smart clear teachers and understable books You cannot buy one of this with money And according to you usa have only 1,6 trillion tax money While government budget is 8 trillion
@CHLOCHLOLP
@CHLOCHLOLP 4 жыл бұрын
@@bris0rv105 I was talking about federal spending, that includes state. this is the website i had used, I wasnt lying lmao. www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/
@CHLOCHLOLP
@CHLOCHLOLP 4 жыл бұрын
​@@bris0rv105 But also you can pay for teachers and good books with money, thats the whole problem. People are not willing to invest and learn to become a teacher because the return on investment is abysmal, their pay is shit. Money would absolutely incentiveise more people to become teachers, something we desperately need, as the ratio in my area is around 30 students to one teacher. Another issue with the system, specifically the state funding system is that schools are funded based on the economic status of the people in the school zone, so schools in rich areas get better funding. a lot of the funding is state, and that is what is unequally distributed to rich schools. So that federal spending amount I was talking about earlier is the only part that is universally distributed to all schools, and im not even sure that that money gets properly distributed. SO i guess really the main problem isnt just the lack of money, but the fact that most of that money ends up in a very small portion of the hands that need it. www.ascd.org/publications/educational-leadership/may02/vol59/num08/Unequal-School-Funding-in-the-United-States.aspx Also its my understanding that a good chunk of the funding goes to superintendent paychecks and the salaries of other higher ups, not actually to resources for the school. but I dot have a direct source for that.
@hazmatcinemaxxx
@hazmatcinemaxxx 3 жыл бұрын
When I was in the 1st grade there was a girl in my class whos parents were from Russia and were doctors in the U.S. now. She spoke little English. The other girl students helped her every day with words she didn't understand. She now speaks English very well and graduated College judging by her Facebook profile.
@Jackwagon
@Jackwagon 5 жыл бұрын
More corporate welfare. They get the cheap labor and we foot the bill.
@batgirlp5561
@batgirlp5561 5 жыл бұрын
I visited France. The French basically refuse to speak English to you. "Lucky" for me I had learned enough French to get around before I visited.
@ARyan-yk9qh
@ARyan-yk9qh 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the U.S. did the same. It would be a better place.
@batgirlp5561
@batgirlp5561 3 жыл бұрын
@Tamera Bonner not exactly. They speak to you in French and once they are satisfied with you struggling through the language enough then they start speaking English. Funny Black French people were not at all like that. Very kind and friendly and helpful.
@Nobodysbby
@Nobodysbby 7 жыл бұрын
16 years ago I would be around 8 years old. Our class sizes were already 30+ to a class. Most all of my friends were hispanic. Class sizes are a huge problem... I never felt like the esl kids slowed down the learning process.. At least in grade school. I went to an art school from 6 to 10th so I have no idea what it's like has esl kids in my class as I grew up so im not sure of the impact on everyone's learning. My point is this has been a problem (oversized classrooms, not much one on one learning) & until billionaires & people with money start stepping up nothing is going to change. We cannot fundraise enough to build new schools and hire new teachers. They can barley afford paper. 16 years ago we were sharing text books, one textbook for every two people.
@southernfriedscandal9004
@southernfriedscandal9004 4 жыл бұрын
inthezone FACTS
@TokenBlackman7
@TokenBlackman7 7 жыл бұрын
Guess it's time to get the hell outta Dodge!
@miaa7097
@miaa7097 7 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the children. I came to Canada I attended ESL class. Today I'm registered nurse. America u need to invest on these children if you wanna them to become great member of society
@Loganthered1
@Loganthered1 6 жыл бұрын
So if the meat packing plants stop hiring migrant workers and employ citizens that already speak english this problem goes away. The businesses and city created this problem let them figure it out. If the school board raises taxes to pay for the classes the students need the meat packing plants are going to have to reevaluate their hiring practices.
@ValenciaStables
@ValenciaStables 5 жыл бұрын
Having recently finished middle school in a New Mexican School, I can testify that the US needs to up their spending. Teachers are payed dirt, and everything they need for the students, often comes out of their pocket. It's ridiculous because with a lack of materials and counselors etc, our school had so many issues, and it was evident that kids were struggling to do well.
@jsebby2284
@jsebby2284 Жыл бұрын
US is a top spender on education and teachers are paid some of the highest salaries in the world
@buddy-mt4cl
@buddy-mt4cl 7 жыл бұрын
here comes the anti-everything trump people
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 7 жыл бұрын
buddy and people who forget that the whole mission statement at Vice is to report on the absurdity of the modern condition.
@djgranny8438
@djgranny8438 7 жыл бұрын
yeah why can't they see that democrats and republicans are not the same party at all smh
@evideliagomez7468
@evideliagomez7468 4 жыл бұрын
It is so weird that America the greatest Nation does not invest un education
@JadedJassy21
@JadedJassy21 6 жыл бұрын
These kids want to learn. These parents want their kids to learn. The system sucks.
@southernfriedscandal9004
@southernfriedscandal9004 4 жыл бұрын
JadedJassy21 FACTS
@robertmoore6149
@robertmoore6149 4 жыл бұрын
Oh thats real simple. Big business doesnt profit off of K-12 education. The minute a company can make ten of millions, you will see education funding increase.
@thatgui88
@thatgui88 2 жыл бұрын
How would that even happen
@robertmoore6149
@robertmoore6149 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatgui88 Drive public schools into the ground through lack of funding and excessive assessment testing. Charter schools are then brought in paying teachers and other staff half as much, but executives 4x as much. These schools instantly have little to no assessment testing giving both more instruction time and less knowledge how much kids are learning. Lastly these private schools will pick and choose their students artificial making themselves look fantastic. Legislators (receiving donations from these executives and companies) then in turn are given more funding.
@tom-ot8kg
@tom-ot8kg 5 жыл бұрын
I live here Arizona United States! In a small city called Casa Grande about two hours from the border. What I remember in my middle school is that they would send the kids with below average grades to a program funded by WAL-MART DISTRIBUTION to teach them about their warehouses and CAREER CHOICES to work at Wal-Mart or their warehouses across the state's as if they were colleges. When I was middle school I had no idea what was going on but now that I'm in my early 20s I'm thinking what kind of SICK FUCKS would do that to children? That's right AMERICA. This all facts and 100% sure it's still going on today. This was around 2011 btw.
@southernfriedscandal9004
@southernfriedscandal9004 4 жыл бұрын
midnight marauder FACTS
@inthevault9603
@inthevault9603 5 жыл бұрын
The superintendent seems like a very sincere caring man and believe me I don’t say that lightly as a teacher who has seen a lot of ugliness in school administrations.
@staceycartnal9447
@staceycartnal9447 5 жыл бұрын
Incomes are low so people don't want to be taxed. The middle class needs a living wage!
@bris0rv105
@bris0rv105 4 жыл бұрын
Middle class have living wage But problem that only half of USA is middle class now
@Nenaleon07
@Nenaleon07 5 жыл бұрын
Great job, Vice. More videos like this please.
@jewatokes5211
@jewatokes5211 5 жыл бұрын
My ass always failed at that tower building group work. 😂
@muhammadfarisbinrahmat5770
@muhammadfarisbinrahmat5770 7 жыл бұрын
With this educational situation,I can say one more thing. Time to get the hell out of Dodge.
@guccithofgangeth7679
@guccithofgangeth7679 6 жыл бұрын
That's it U.S., invest all of your money in defense spending and soon enough there will be nothing left worth defending.
@basstion4146
@basstion4146 5 жыл бұрын
It costs 9,000 dollars for one student
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist 7 жыл бұрын
Good thing there's free education online
@24k.purelife
@24k.purelife 2 жыл бұрын
God bless that woman Maria teaching those children after being one ☝🏾 of them herself the world 🌎 needs more ppl like her
@christinetilton4562
@christinetilton4562 5 жыл бұрын
Over crowding. It’s a real problem.
@erickguize
@erickguize 7 жыл бұрын
I came to Spain and I didn't know the language (like a lot of children here) and well, i learnt it pretty fast as other classmates... I don't know if we have a better 'special' teachers or something in this matter but I dont know why it is a huge problem in the USA... we have different people here like chinese russians arabic etc and everyone speak spanish easily (in my opinion of course)
@jglobetrotter2830
@jglobetrotter2830 5 жыл бұрын
Yet apparently you didn't learn the difference between an anecdote and research-backed facts. No, people do not magically learn Spanish easier in Spain, no, the problem isn't teachers. There are plenty of people in Spain who don't speak Spanish-- sounds like you don't get out much. Also, Basic Intercommunicative Skills (BICS) and Cognitive Academic Language Proficiency (CALP) are not the same thing. So you hear someone chat with a friend in Spanish, and and argue they have learned Spanish just fine, but the professor grading their research paper or their the boss reading their email is going to have a totally different opinion.
@WaveRider1989
@WaveRider1989 Жыл бұрын
​@J Globetrotter kids can learn any language fast. It's the adults that can't. I learned English when I was 9 in America and it was pretty fast, but reading and writing it took few years to catch up to standard grade level. The ESL class was only for an an hour a day rest of the time was regular classes.
@Randolo10
@Randolo10 7 жыл бұрын
some middle schools and elementry schools are day cares to some parents for their kids lol
@thejayscottascension7297
@thejayscottascension7297 7 жыл бұрын
I'm an immigrant. But if your kids don't speak English they shouldn't be in public school. There's already enough stress on the public school system. Companies need to stop being cheap and hiring immigrant workers at a discount and just hire Americans. There's nothing wrong with hiring immigrants, but your reason for doing it should be that they're the best candidate, not the cheapest candidate.
@JessicaA777
@JessicaA777 6 жыл бұрын
I found the segment interesting and informative. The comments not so much, I scrolled down and read. I was just about to give up until I noticed your comment. Thank you. Your comment has given me peace of mind that there are some people who are thinking critically about this issue. Again thank you.
@jessicastapleton6491
@jessicastapleton6491 6 жыл бұрын
The reason they pay for cheap labor is to keep the cost of products down. If we start paying people because they are the best candidates, then be prepared to pay the price!
@JessicaA777
@JessicaA777 6 жыл бұрын
Jess A If your working and making a decent living then the cost of the product isn't a problem. If the comapnies aren't hiring Americans but they expect Americans to buy their products, well the price of the product won't matter because with no jobs no one here can afford to buy it anyway! Duh
@ssun190
@ssun190 6 жыл бұрын
"But if your kids don't speak English they shouldn't be in public school." What??? You learn English by going to school. I didn't speak English when I first got to the US. I learned English in a public elementary school and last year I graduated with a Ph.D. in physics from Harvard. How is not teaching immigrant children English a solution to anything? How many languages where you fluent in when you were 5 years old? To require children to speak English before moving to a country or be able to go to school is laughably stupid. Fix the country's broken school system. Immigrants didn't give tax cuts to the rich and make budget cuts to public schools. Immigrants are not the problem.
@genieglasslamp5028
@genieglasslamp5028 5 жыл бұрын
If these children didn't attend public schools then states would have to come up with a entirely different way to get them to learn. That in and of itself would take it's own budget, teachers, supplies ect. Its honesty cheaper to just group them together with other English speaking children in public schools. Also the video states that many of the children are poor. Their parents can't afford to get them private tutors or special classes outside of public schools.
@user-mz2tw8yk8o
@user-mz2tw8yk8o 3 жыл бұрын
There are hundreds of billions of dollars of tax exempt endowment money from our universities why can't we just allocate them to those public schools?
@MrWinter2
@MrWinter2 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I had no idea. Thank you for posting!
@shermarie2876
@shermarie2876 2 жыл бұрын
All the time and budget it takes to make the classroom viable for non English speaking students…. When there is not enough time and budget to just teach the curriculum. What?!
@subhabratadas4087
@subhabratadas4087 5 жыл бұрын
The K-12 education industrial complex is failing due to excess union involvement.
@jasonilgenfritz4958
@jasonilgenfritz4958 7 жыл бұрын
Erie, Pennsylvania is looking to close all Middle and High Schools due to lack of funding. The only coverage has been local - extensively - but it would be nice - very helpful - to see larger coverage.
@princediop8190
@princediop8190 7 жыл бұрын
Are you serious? After i was born in the US, i left and lived elsewhere for a few years, so English wasn't my first language. But when i came back, i was around their age and learned English over summer. you really don't need these programs, just let them learn naturally.
@krabes8613
@krabes8613 5 жыл бұрын
I see this as an opportunity to change our horrible education systems. Kids aren’t learning they are be trained to memorize and forget
@zephead843
@zephead843 5 жыл бұрын
The teachers unions will make sure no changes are ever made to "their" system. Remember that it's "their system", not yours. Governors are complicit in the extortion game, because they know who "runs the machine."
@rgrifferon
@rgrifferon 2 жыл бұрын
Most Private Schools are segregated, yet they benefit from taxpayers monies.
@fpshightide
@fpshightide 5 жыл бұрын
I live in the USA and I can honestly say that school is overrated a lot it’s pointless the education system needs a real change
@southernfriedscandal9004
@southernfriedscandal9004 4 жыл бұрын
Kickazzmikey pain FACTS
@mountaindewitt
@mountaindewitt 7 жыл бұрын
As an expat kid I started learning English at the age of 5 and Mandarin at 6, and I managed just fine, better than my parents and teachers had ever hoped. How that "teacher" believes those Hispanic kids can somehow "lose hope" or feel "overwhelmed" by learning a new language beyond me, especially since they are at an age where they just sort of passively absorb knowledge. They are at a stage of growth where they pick up a new tongue far more easily than adults.
@jglobetrotter2830
@jglobetrotter2830 5 жыл бұрын
BS. Research says otherwise. Nice that you think you magically learned languages despite the fact that there were certainly tons of resources being poured into teaching you, but your anecdote is meaningless anyway. Sounds like when you were "absorbing language" you missed out on some other key aspects of education.
@ShidaiTaino
@ShidaiTaino 7 жыл бұрын
Why are new bathrooms for a third gender more important than this.
@harrison6082
@harrison6082 7 жыл бұрын
I guess the better question is: "Do you want to live in a society with slightly dumber people?"
@justsimplygoodcooking3176
@justsimplygoodcooking3176 5 жыл бұрын
If the meat factory is bringing in and employing immigrants they should also contribute to the education budgets for their children. It's obvious the government not going to do it
@FeWolf
@FeWolf 5 жыл бұрын
the amount of money we spend per student, is not getting a good return, maybe we need to rethink our system, www.cbsnews.com/news/us-education-spending-tops-global-list-study-shows/ One of the biggest cross-national tests is the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), which every three years measures reading ability, math and science literacy and other key skills among 15-year-olds in dozens of developed and developing countries. The most recent PISA results, from 2015, placed the U.S. an unimpressive 38th out of 71 countries in math and 24th in science. Among the 35 members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which sponsors the PISA initiative, the U.S. ranked 30th in math and 19th in science.
@superfinevids
@superfinevids 7 жыл бұрын
If you don't spend money on education think about what else the city or state is not spending money on and how that correlates to bad grades.
@jsebby2284
@jsebby2284 Жыл бұрын
Good thing the US spends an incredible amount of money on education then
@RileygoodVideos
@RileygoodVideos 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen how shitty some schools are, even in good neighbourhoods. I work with steam traps, which are important for any building with steam in it, I.e. a school uses steam for radiators to heat rooms. Half of the schools I go to are either being scammed by buying overpriced traps that don't work, or have traps older than some of your grandparents. It's sickening to see something as basic as keeping a school warm during the winter gets overlookes.
@harrison6082
@harrison6082 7 жыл бұрын
Even in states that spent a lot of money on education still sometimes need help. My highschool district lost its big surplus multimillion surplus in a blink of an eye due to poor finance. As a result they were bailed out by the government.
@hugojaime9565
@hugojaime9565 6 жыл бұрын
Lets remember where this case in particular started, the MEAT INDUSTRY one of your favorite protected and subsidised businesses, WHY DONT YOU DO A VIDEO ABOUT THAT VICE?
@MrKAHutch
@MrKAHutch 6 жыл бұрын
Great story, Vice!
@JCosio-bs9xr
@JCosio-bs9xr 5 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't necessarily be more expensive because it's not that specialized. If you just teach everyone that way as a default you can cover many of the needs of ELLs and many students with IEPs and 504s. Inclusion from the start may be more cost effective than mainstreaming.
@nategz9875
@nategz9875 5 жыл бұрын
Honest question. In bilingual education I’ve seen students born and raised in the USA get to 6th and 7th grade barely speaking English. (They sounds like someone who just came over) I’ve seen newcomers learn English and speak it faster (maybe cause they feel they have to). So my question is should we push English on them or should we wait until they test better in English?
@jl4414
@jl4414 6 жыл бұрын
this is why somebody like trump can win the election lol
@shauncameron8390
@shauncameron8390 5 жыл бұрын
Not according to CNN's own exit polls the night Trump got elected. LOL
@invictusbat7225
@invictusbat7225 7 жыл бұрын
Uh PARENTS learn and teach their kids English
@bobbywright6062
@bobbywright6062 7 жыл бұрын
Gtfo of dodge!
@jeffdetmer9967
@jeffdetmer9967 6 жыл бұрын
Sure we need to fund education! But what is the pay of the new worker moving into Dodge (are they driving down wages and hurting unions)? Wages affect the tax base Maybe slow down on mass immigration, fewer people that will need help with English and high pay for workers, that will bring in more Revenue for the school.
@christinetilton4562
@christinetilton4562 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps our lifelong politicians who have become multimillionaires while in office could bolster the school budgets.
@erich84502a
@erich84502a Жыл бұрын
And nobody wants to teach because parents and students are afraid of authority
@haydc608
@haydc608 7 жыл бұрын
These are exactly the type of immigrants we want, the ones willing and able to learn English and wanting and seeking gainful legal employment. I hope the Trump administration can help these types of immigrants and get rid of any who are unwilling to try learn English or unwilling to work legally.
@lizb2620
@lizb2620 2 жыл бұрын
Education in this country at every age & stage, from early childhood to post secondary & beyond, is an utter disgrace.
@gvi341984
@gvi341984 7 жыл бұрын
$12,731 for per student in the US? How come Americans want more for scores that will not improve? Money is was never an issue and it seems like propaganda pushed by educators who earn very inflated salaries. Why would Americans press for ESL courses? It seems so counter productive and costly.
@christinelanasa9694
@christinelanasa9694 4 жыл бұрын
If the government can’t fund education we the people will so stop taxing us for it! Period.
@southernfriedscandal9004
@southernfriedscandal9004 4 жыл бұрын
Christine Lanasa FACTS
@UnrelatedAntonym
@UnrelatedAntonym 3 жыл бұрын
Kansas gave tax cuts and it didn't help the economy. Huh, why is that? ... TOP INCOME TAX RATE WELL THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM! STOP GIVING TAX CUTS TO THE WEALTHY! How about giving tax cuts to working class people... you know... so they can buy goods and services instead of penny pinching to survive.
@tjude1922
@tjude1922 5 жыл бұрын
Just wondering how there can ever be a shortage of something that is man-made and printed... As a matter of fact, we don't even need the printed dollar anymore, we have ATM/DEBIT/CREDIT cards now... I wish that we would just rise up and own the fact that the power we vest in currency is an illusion!!!! Barter and trade is the real MVP!!! "In trade, barter (derived from baretor) is a system of exchange where participants in a transaction directly exchange goods or services for other goods or services without using a medium of exchange, such as money."
@Da-wu5mk
@Da-wu5mk 5 жыл бұрын
tjude1922 damn you’re fucking stupid
@bris0rv105
@bris0rv105 4 жыл бұрын
Education is about smart teachers and understable books, you cannot buy any of it with money
@Number1Irishlad
@Number1Irishlad 3 жыл бұрын
Its way more than that m8
@trick29420
@trick29420 7 жыл бұрын
You can sum this up in one word. PENSIONS.
@crucisnh
@crucisnh 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's a huge problem. Public sector pensions are out of control.
@joekrebs964
@joekrebs964 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, we can cut pensions while keeping wages the same. That would help recruitment.
@GeckoNovice
@GeckoNovice 7 жыл бұрын
Bravo for those that chose to immigrate legally, but if you are going to raise kids priority 1 should be English comprehension.
@horusocotv6496
@horusocotv6496 5 жыл бұрын
What about if education had like military budget they could become SUPER EDUCATION LIKE THEY ARE SP
@harrissyed1603
@harrissyed1603 3 жыл бұрын
people say tax cuts are bad but this is where the money goes
@coolworx
@coolworx 5 жыл бұрын
But by all means, lets open up the borders so we can further stress our teetering social systems.
@joekrebs964
@joekrebs964 5 жыл бұрын
Best comment on this thread.
@waverly2468
@waverly2468 6 жыл бұрын
The budget squeeze will continue to get worse because of the unfunded public pension crisis. This may come as a surprise to education advocates, but states cannot print money like the federal government. If these English learners need more, then hurry up and eliminate after school sports, music, arts, and pre-college classes.
@zephead843
@zephead843 5 жыл бұрын
Want better teachers? Replace pensions with 401k's and you'll get them.
@cecilycook5592
@cecilycook5592 5 жыл бұрын
My county is +90% .... the school funding is only one part of the struggles that come along with it. This story sounds EXACTLY like my area/state.
@flaplaya
@flaplaya 7 жыл бұрын
Could it be state lottery corruption/embezzlement?
@mamzersdream1
@mamzersdream1 6 жыл бұрын
ESL should be banned
@mistermood4164
@mistermood4164 7 жыл бұрын
fort lauderdale shooting.. :(
@tonyblack5552
@tonyblack5552 7 жыл бұрын
There's a direct correlation between school performance and income. Wealthier parents tend to work less and don't work as hard, allowing them more time and resources towards nurturing their kids. Of course, there are outliers. Some poor kids are born gifted and don't require excess resources, some rich kids are dumb but use their parents connections to succeed where they failed at school. I've even seen smart people from middle-class families utterly fail at life due to having no drive.
@BarnGeek
@BarnGeek 7 жыл бұрын
The Easy and free answer to this problem, is the very platform this video is on. Everyone who speaks Spanish can learn to speak English, or dozens of other languages, taught by the finest teachers in the world right here on youtube... And nobody has to pay for it. School is obsolete.
@televisionblitz
@televisionblitz 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah but most people don't use the internet for education they use it for porn and cat videos, most people art disciplined enough for self-education.
@alquinn8576
@alquinn8576 5 жыл бұрын
"American educators teach longer for less pay than their foreign peers" -- why is that the case when the US spending on public schools is in the top 40% of OECD countries as a percent of GDP?
@gregnulik1975
@gregnulik1975 3 ай бұрын
At the rate funding keeps being given to public schools , they could start endowments.
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