It was a terrible breakdown. Pretty much everything she said was wrong.

Also Lynn might want to oppose Putin then since the Russians are the ones mining Ukraine to fuck. The privilage she has to say "my son died from a legacy weapon so let's just ignore the literal hundreds of sons and daughters currently dying". Imagine if she were alive when Hitler was rampaging through Europe, imagine if she took the "can't we all just get along and stop war" stance there. Not only is it horrific to take because it guarentees the invading nation kills more citizens but it also means the area they have the opportunity to mine (because the AGGRESSOR WHICH IS RUSSIA IN THIS WAR IS THE ONE WHO PLANTS THE MINES) in 50 years time there will currently be incidents like this which is horrifying to think of.... And Lynn wants MORE? Absolutely disgusting.

I agree

The TU and LP are not blinded by tanky loyalty to a now Fascist Russia.

Nope she's suffered a horrific loss and it's blinded her to empathy for others who loose their children. While her loss is great you could find 10-15 mothers easily who have suffered the same losses NOW and since RUSSIA is the aggressor destroying and mining the country at the moment what Lynn is saying is "Let's let the mines pile up by reducing Ukraine's fighting capacity" imagine if that HAD happened back when Hitler was doing the same as Putin? Lynn's son would STILL have died but the Nazis would have mined MORE area, not just France and the sea but also more of Frances beeches than they already did, potentially Holland, the entirety of Europe could have become a minefield. The way to avoid deaths like Lynns is to end the imperialists progression. I always wonder with the Russia apologists how they think they could stand to be in the room with an actual Ukrainian.... Like imagine it... "My son and husband were killed by Russians in the donbass, I've had to leave my home and there are parts of my family I don't know if they made it." "Yeah well mine had a freak accident with an old bomb so I don't think Ukraine should be supplied with weapons" HORRIFIC.

@@StuartAtkinson4467 You just littrally invented all that drivle. How will prolonging the war with British and American weapons help the Ukrainians ? please do explain. The war mongering money makers are talking TEN MORE YEARS ...are you actually serious ? The only ones to benifit from that will be the weapon makers like SUNAK and BIDEN for instance .Why is no one talking PEACE ?...including YOU ?.... dont you want people to live in peace ? Take a deep breath and except NO ONE deseves to be blown up ever ....for any reason and NO ONE should be trying to justify or score it either. You have no argument if you are offering more death and distruction as a solution .

She seems to dislike Hitler but not have any idea about what stopped Hitler, and forced the Nazis to agree to peace: A war.

These are all lies. But what do I know, I’m Ukrainian who’s lived through it.

absolute piffle.

​@@patzan48I find that all English people are totally aware of how the political system works too. That's why the country is in such a great state

When Eastern Europeans have a revolt against Russia, it’s a ‘NATO coup’. When anyone has a revolt against the US, UK, or Israel, it’s a heroic resistance. The Tanky/SWP left in a nutshell.

Well put. The US backed resurgence of Nazism in the Ukraine is a danger not just for Russia but for Europe as a whole, especially as its economy declines.

Russia also negotiated the removal of the third largest nuclear arsenal on the commitment to observe Ukrainian sovereign borders. and Ukraine only requested NATO membership after the invasion. So, if you are going to reference history, be sure to reference all of it not just the elements that suit your narrative.

@@JB-br6kqyet Russians saw 8000 ethnic Russians massacres by Nazi Ukrainian security forces, Victoria Nuland admitted the USA installation of biowarfare labs in Ukraine and here you are acting all knowing 🤮

exactly and they have been bombing ethnic russians in the donbas ever since

@@JB-br6kq as far back as 2008 nato membership was discussed

@@dm32904 They applied for the MAP, which is a process where full members can review application for membership but due to the requirements laid out in the application criteria this was shelved in 2010. This was due to the "way things were at the time" Times change and therefore the option only became realistic after the invasion.

Nope stupid virtue signalling that only the Western removed from war people would ever say. When war happens you oppose THE AGGRESSOR MINING AND KILLING. That's Putin. Ukranians have agency (though the "left" are thristy for them to die) they want to fight off the horde. They want to protect their people. They want to prevent his annexation of Crimea, the Donbass and eventually Kyiv because each new front they manage to open they're reducing to rubble and mined land. Lynn's grief is real but people are saying "Now let's let that happen to as much of Ukraine as possible for the next 80 years by not giving Ukraine enough support to stop the ambitions of Putin." Who has already mined what people estimate will take near that long to remove.

Thank you Susie x

​@@lynngunnigle9999all respect and support and love to you Lynn. You have seen the truth. Keep on speaking it. Xxx

Putin wanted to recreate Greater Russia (confirmed by the Belarussian President ) and invading Ukraine was the first part of this plan .Why do you think Finland and Sweden wanted to join N.A.T.O.Putin was going to invade them after Ukraine and the Baltic States. Instead of being a Putin apologist do some objective research .

Stop the War Coalition are not Absolute Pacifists in the literal sense of the term, as used at the beginning of twenties century, when Jingoism was all the rage, especially among the ruling-classes, and bourgeoisie.

Ukraine took up arms to stop its people being killed and its country destroyed. What were they supposed to do?

they have the right to do that but NOT expect every other country to support them in their regional dispute with Russia@@user-zc4yd9ss7h

"red lines" you mean the whole not one inch thing someone said in a dinner convo once with Gorbachev? Yeah glad NATO never did and the countries that freed themselves from the Tsardom were free to make their own alliences. The whole "Poor Putin all his fwends were leaving because the EU and NATO seemed so cool with all their NOT KILLING POLITICIANS AND CITIZENS" What choice did he have?!?! Let Ukraine just exist without the Czechnia, Georgia, Syria, Libya treatment? No couldn't have had that.

@@user-zc4yd9ss7h Didn't Russia take up arms to stop ethnic Russians being murdered by US-approved neo-Nazi brigades in the Donbas? Why do you expect the Kremlin also not to have a breaking point, or deny it the right to define what constitutes a casus belli for itself? If invasion of one's own territory is the only justification for military mobilisation, then the British were wrong to declare war on Germany over Poland in 1939.

Where is Putin and Russia in your post .

OH I WISH. But most old lefties seem to do it for a laugh rather than the principle of stoping war they think WESTERN war is bad and then the moment any other country does it they go into full bloodthirst mode. "Yeah strip the Ukranians of their defences, they're almost dead I'm gonna cum" it's been horrific seeing the left so COMPLETELY tip their hand that their issue isn't imperialism or war it's "the west". So long as the "team" is as opposed as possible to "the west" then yeah Russia can engage in the same fuckery in the Middle East and Africa doesn't matter they're not "the west". Putin literally admits it's blood and soil "we view them as Russian so we're going to kill them all and move the Russians in" meh that's fine he didn't say it in English.

@@davidmontgomery9846 So you don't agree that wars are bad ?

@@jameselliott8203 all wars are bad but some are necessary .

@davidmontgomery9846 Yeah but not this one

Your comment leaves me wondering as to how Trade Unions are faring in Russia? Any info?

@@SmolDeBrol Russia is a neoliberal country, so I'd imagine unions are in a similarly dire state as in the West. Granted, they don't seem to be huge fans of neoliberalism after '90s shock therapy - and they have a fuller social state than we do - with free university, free healthcare, and years of paid maternity leave. If you can get past the paywall, Zelensky wrote an editorial in the Wall St. Journal (Invest in the Future of Ukraine, Sept '22) where he said they'd abolish the right of labour to join labour unions, and abolish the right to collective bargaining; all labour rights in the Ukraine constitution are null and void. He also rejects all EU labour laws, and rejects UN labour laws. (Via economist Michael Hudson, on Geopolitical Economy Report, with Ben Norton)

Get on board with the Project for the New American Century/the Wolfowitz doctrine. Together we'll turn back the tide of history. 20 years of perpetual war; 4.5 - 4.7 million people killed in post 9/11 war zones; more than 38 people displaced; two thirds of the world sanctioned; annual US military spending nearing $1 trillion dollars. EU military spending to increase by €70 billion euros...and 735 million people go hungry each and every day. As Madeleine Albright said about 500.000 dead Iraqi babies, it was a difficult decision but we think it was worth it.

chevron, boing and raytheon dont

NATO expansion is the crux of the matter and likening Putin to Hitler is absurd.

To get perspective, consider how the rest of the world sees it? The global south sees what Deepa Driver sees. This is what Professor Mearsheimer sees. This is what US Colonel Mcgregor sees. It's what economist Jeffery Sachs sees. It's what anyone interested in the history of geo-politics sees. NATO starts a war with a coup in 2014, and the BBC tells you the war started when Russia invaded in 2022. The coup and the 8 years of NATO helping Ukraine bomb it's own civilians is conveniently omitted. This is the world of information warfare: manufacturing continued consent for war

I feel sorry for the colleagues in your workplace. You appear to embody all that is wrong with the trade union movement and why it is in the dire state it is in.

@@TREVORALLMAN what like organising pickets of my workplace during a strike that increased their pay and government funding for their workplace? Like helping to organise illegal strikes over health and safety at the height of the pandemic and saving lives in the workplace and the local community as a result? What have you ever done for your union or colleagues? Simping for Putin?

@@pipeandpotter1236 I've done all that and more, whilst not supporting a Nazi regime, unlike yourself.

every single one? theres absolutely no possibility theres just one from Ukraine?

the US started all this in 2014, when the CIA engineered a far right coup to get rid of the elected government for a nuland pyatt government