Why Are Battlefield 2042 Players So BAD?

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6 ай бұрын

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@TheRealAssix
@TheRealAssix 6 ай бұрын
On Redacted no one is pushing tunnels. 5 medics walk by you. No one is dropping ammo. It sometimes feels likes bots are trying more than actual players…
@alexdasliebe5391
@alexdasliebe5391 6 ай бұрын
Bots are way better. Me and my human 2042 buddy run together give ammo, laze, shoot rockets. Everyone else retired to “single player w company” Call of Duty. No teamwork. It’s the whack-a-mole section at a county fair. 🤣
@jonathanrowland9963
@jonathanrowland9963 6 ай бұрын
Since no one does i try to fill the gaps. Ill post up laying down with the m240b and just spray the whole clip over n over down the hallway
@ramoydagad
@ramoydagad 6 ай бұрын
tunnels are useful for flanking but otherwise are annoying to fight in
@karnesjeremy113
@karnesjeremy113 6 ай бұрын
Attacking in breakthrough is usually a loss. If you get a good team it’s bearable, but that once in a blue moon. Defending is a crap shoot too.
@SomeDadGaming
@SomeDadGaming 6 ай бұрын
FACTS! LOL 😂
@jamescamille84
@jamescamille84 6 ай бұрын
The amount of times I push aggressively.. to get passed a choke point, clear the path. The rest of my team just watches me and dont move up. Is beyond frustrating.
@provalivay
@provalivay 6 ай бұрын
right! bitches just afraid to die in a computer game.
@toucansam8164
@toucansam8164 6 ай бұрын
It’s like they don’t comprehend what just happened
@KrosslKiam
@KrosslKiam 6 ай бұрын
Same here. Other players just care about how many kills they can do from a safe spot... they don't care what's the game about...
@provalivay
@provalivay 6 ай бұрын
@@KrosslKiam actually good that game has some kind of a guarantee that you can end Redacted like 34-3 being 10th if you just camp
@user-qm6jb9id3q
@user-qm6jb9id3q 6 ай бұрын
I'd spend entire games back raging an enemy team literally wondering how it isn't possible that one of the players out of the other 31 people that are on my team, aren't capable of going around the campers. It's not like most of them are looking behind them all that much lmao
@greyseraphim
@greyseraphim 6 ай бұрын
The most frustrating scenario for me is playing against a team with competent vehicle users while I'm the only person on my team that tries to take them out.
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 6 ай бұрын
Just had a match of that on breakthrough. I was running soflam and Rao. Lighting everything up. But no... The heli lasts til the 5th and final section.
@Cha_Koibito
@Cha_Koibito 6 ай бұрын
It's like your team dies because of enemy tank or heli and all your teammates are still Falk and no engies XD
@mdk81
@mdk81 6 ай бұрын
That is so frustrating! When you get destroyed for 45 minutes straight and all the other 63 players are fine with that. 😑
@doomed_mtb
@doomed_mtb 5 ай бұрын
Getting that vehicle to a “one shot” on your own! and NO ONE DROPS AMMO!!! So you can finish it off 🤦🏻‍♂️
@aesemon5392
@aesemon5392 5 ай бұрын
​@icepickiii have they fixed the rao/soflam issue where team mates can't see your designation?
@R3dBubbleButNerfed
@R3dBubbleButNerfed 6 ай бұрын
Totally agree about the extra angles and the distances. When someone can kill you from 100 meters with a smg...
@peterrycroft6639
@peterrycroft6639 6 ай бұрын
Cos it's full of cheats I'm lvl 265 an a lvl 16 took 20 rounds and nothing he hits me once an I die lvls mean nothing
@jonathanrowland9963
@jonathanrowland9963 6 ай бұрын
@@peterrycroft6639 what are lvls supposed to do then man. If that was the case the game would suck even more ass
@98gmc1500
@98gmc1500 6 ай бұрын
@@peterrycroft6639 I think it’s the cross play, the pc guys have it figured out so they have an advantage over a controller player, were in milliseconds reaction time, the stupid bumper buttons suck ass on x box for example.
@golgariplague4746
@golgariplague4746 5 ай бұрын
​​@@98gmc1500 They have cronos and promax and other crap that give them 95% aimbot lol pc players are ridiculous bad since they don't even try the pc plays for them. They just need to press a button.
@iiN3onHD
@iiN3onHD 5 ай бұрын
@@golgariplague4746how to tell everyone you’re jealous of pc players….
@slayerbrayan
@slayerbrayan 6 ай бұрын
It's definitely overwhelming, having McKay go wherever he pleases and Sundance fly by dropping C5 it's impossible to cover all angles
@joebidenisagayretard2410
@joebidenisagayretard2410 6 ай бұрын
Especially on console playing against pc tryhards like ender
@jefferyroberson987
@jefferyroberson987 6 ай бұрын
Funny cause those are the two I hate the most. You don’t need skills or a team to use them and they can go anywhere as they please.
@likemybluepants
@likemybluepants 6 ай бұрын
yeah DICE definitely shot themselves in the foot with those two since they essentially break every map design
@clintshidwood4511
@clintshidwood4511 6 ай бұрын
@@likemybluepants usually in bf games you know the rat spots and very rarely do you get a surprising "oh wow, i didnt know you could get up there" moment. there were a lot of sneaky rat spots in bfv you could get to with the vault mechanic and people would find even sneakier spots by parachuting off a plane. but you could still some what anticipate a weird position. but now every spot is a rat spot, any crate, shipping container, roof top and cliff side is a rat hole. nothing is out of reach for a grapple hook. and then they can effortlessly rotate too, and go to the next rat spot with a push of a single button. ggs
@capolean2902
@capolean2902 6 ай бұрын
@@likemybluepantsid understand mckay but how did sundance break map design lol ?
@remyvuff9984
@remyvuff9984 6 ай бұрын
In the past battlefield games I always had a certain trust and confidence in teammates when we rushed to a sector and try to capture and hold it that each of us will take an angle and defend it. But in this game I feel like I have to look over my shoulder constantly because people are dying over and over again. Another thing what frustrates me is playing assault trying to make a move or flank: 1. People don't follow up and try to push. 2. When I'm out of ammo when playing an assault class, I am fucked, because most of the players wont drop an ammo box. Yes I know I can take ammo from enemies, but I also don't want to get caught in the open trying to reach it. It sucks
@karnesjeremy113
@karnesjeremy113 6 ай бұрын
Or when you’re a medic they expect a Rez when they’re out in the open.
@remyvuff9984
@remyvuff9984 6 ай бұрын
@@karnesjeremy113 exactly, spamming the ping button
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 6 ай бұрын
I spam the heck out of the need ammo comm rose now. At least we have that now over previous BFs. I remember one exchange in BF3. I turned on my flashlight on a support player then pointed it to the ground, flashing the light at the ground. Like 5 times repeating this. They didn't put down any ammo ....
@Zackarco
@Zackarco 6 ай бұрын
Even picking up ammo is entirely useless because it just gives you 15-20 bullets. It would be better if it would give you more ammo based on how low you are. Like if you're empty it would give you 2 magazines worth of ammo. Sure, it would make support players useless but none of them drop ammo anyway so they're already useless..
@octapusxft
@octapusxft 6 ай бұрын
Many times my K/D does bad. My excuse: I am actually trying to play the objective while others in my team put stacking their K/D above all else so I just end up sacrificing myself. It goes better when my platoon also plays with me so I am more likely to be revived and have someone watch my back or me watching theirs
@PDXCustomPCS
@PDXCustomPCS 6 ай бұрын
Yeah it's not your fault on the KD man. I'm an OG BF2 player. I get 10 or more revives per game in 2042 and the other medics(TD usually 7-10+) get 0 the majority of the time. Its so bad.
@octapusxft
@octapusxft 6 ай бұрын
@@PDXCustomPCS It is so insanely easy to stand out in these games if you decide to take reving, resupplying and repairing seriously !
@PDXCustomPCS
@PDXCustomPCS 6 ай бұрын
@@octapusxft Too easy my friend! Completely agree.
@realchabstick418
@realchabstick418 5 ай бұрын
I manage to stay even on the KD most of the time with (usually) the best support score of the game im in, while most of my teammates have 50/60 pts at best (most of em have 0). People just dont care playing as a team. They'd rather go for their personal stats.
@DantexSmith
@DantexSmith 5 ай бұрын
I remember in BF3 & BF4 the team work with the engineers to take out vehicles was so good. Now the engineers dont even try to band together to take out tanks so you just killed over and over by the same vehicles
@rbonnifet
@rbonnifet 6 ай бұрын
You summed up my early experience with this game perfectly. I was completely lost, it seemed impossible to stay alive. And because the medics seemed so useless I decided to play as a medic full time. That’s the only class I play. My only concern is healing, reviving and supplying my team. This has actually helped me learn the maps a little better as well.
@stephencollins9062
@stephencollins9062 6 ай бұрын
Ma Man💪👍same
@Scuffkin412
@Scuffkin412 6 ай бұрын
Actually this is perfect timing. A friend of mine just bought 2042 since it was on sale (big mistake but he's having fun so can't blame him) But he instantly picked up on that the players of this game are genuinely lobotomized. He's already consistently top fragging and understanding how the game works fundamentally. Which is why i'm so fkn confused how the average 2042 player still havent caught up and gotten good since it's been out for 2 years at this point.
@johngrisham3784
@johngrisham3784 6 ай бұрын
Honestly a decent size portion of this player base doesn't even have an understanding of the fundamental aspects of the game. I can't count the amount of people I've talked to that think killing isn't the most important thing in this game. If you can't kill effectively then you can't capture or defend objectives. Many are bad at killing, and instead of trying to learn and get better they just convince themselves kills don't matter the most. I've even seen people say kills don't matter at all...in a first person SHOOTER. Lol.
@andrewb229
@andrewb229 6 ай бұрын
Exactly how it feels for me right now lol. Every lobby I get in I'm within the top 3 players and completely destroying everyone. My KD is like 2.2 when on BF4 it's like 1.4 lol. Not sure if the VHX is just broken or something but that combined with literal bots on the enemy team (not the bots that Dice adds, these are real players) makes the game too easy. I've literally seen some real players that didnt even shoot 1 bullet before I had killed them, and I was well into their line of sight. Either its all little kids playing these days or these people just suck that bad.. Cause I'm not even an amazing FPS player, my highest KD in any game is 2042 and CoD BO4 2.2 and 2.0.
@griffin1366
@griffin1366 6 ай бұрын
@@johngrisham3784 Don't visit the red*it. They are absolutely clueless.
@Scuffkin412
@Scuffkin412 6 ай бұрын
@@andrewb229 for sure, my k/d in 2042 is significantly higher than in the other battlefield games on my end aswell. And i kinda generally suck in comparison to others in fps games too.
@Scuffkin412
@Scuffkin412 6 ай бұрын
@@johngrisham3784 And i genuinely don't know if it's just the battlefield gameplay loop that is confusing for people or that the players are just that dumb sometimes. But i'm leaning towards the latter since the only other battlefield game my friend that recently bought 2042 has played was bf1. And if he's already consistently better than 30 other people with 7-8 hours of playtime.. The higher leveled players really do not have an excuse to be below him on the scoreboard in that case i think.
@eelnikar
@eelnikar 6 ай бұрын
The main thing enders missed is this is the first crossplay bf. The Console experience is the opposite due to crossplay
@provalivay
@provalivay 6 ай бұрын
sometimes i notice quite good consolers in my squad and enemy team
@EndersFPS
@EndersFPS 6 ай бұрын
Disagree
@chrisalves11
@chrisalves11 6 ай бұрын
As a console player i only feel at a disadvantage in air vehicle fights vs pc players
@eelnikar
@eelnikar 6 ай бұрын
@EndersFPS go ahead and ask maxiq, he has 200k subscribers and he plays on console. Or try playing with a controller and you tell me.
@mrdappernature8861
@mrdappernature8861 6 ай бұрын
​@@eelnikar i play on pc and use a controller all the time. Its kinda of different on pc due to higher frame rates. Alot of the console guys just sit on the couch and try to be like Chris Kyle snipping in the back not doing shit. Even when I was on console some guys just want to sit back and tickle their ass while the team get steam rolled.
@CheekiBreekiExplorer
@CheekiBreekiExplorer 6 ай бұрын
Also I’ll like to point out the amount of players that stand with a tank on a certain point of the map doing nothing while the infantry is getting crushed by vehicles, I know that you have all kinds of tools to take down vehicles as infantry but sometimes it can be really hard, unless there’s at least two engineers
@cliftondavis2028
@cliftondavis2028 6 ай бұрын
And what happened to "spotting",that goes a long way towards helping with knowing where the kill is coming from!!I've read a lot of comments with people saying "too much spotting" in BF,but that's a part of dealing with snipers and campers.Too bad only "squad mates"(?)see your spot,should be anyone close by.And BF players,play K/D ratios too much,hiding and camping afraid to get down and dirty!!🤔💪🏾💪🏾😎
@georgethomas7045
@georgethomas7045 6 ай бұрын
If they are on my team, I spawn in as Angel and smoke them until they fight or the match ends.
@fowlz1427
@fowlz1427 6 ай бұрын
I think you’re spot on. I knew where to expect players to be in past BF games. In 2042, I die from the most random bs. It’s almost always when I’m trying to get from one point to another. It’s a very frustrating game to play.
@provalivay
@provalivay 6 ай бұрын
it's not a prob to get close to the flag, you have a transport, you have a paraschute, you have a brain to plan the safest route. It's all about brain, which is missing usually when it comes to casuals.
@ngunuss6482
@ngunuss6482 6 ай бұрын
​@@provalivayMost people don't even want to carry smoke grenades and expect to not get shot while running in an unconcealed area
@MALOK003
@MALOK003 6 ай бұрын
Before in the older games when you didn’t have charachter customization and specialists it was much easier to differ what to expect from a encounter, i new imidietly wich class i was fighting against, that disapered in bf5 and 2042, and made it more gunrunning
@provalivay
@provalivay 6 ай бұрын
@@MALOK003 lol what you can expect from an encounter if it usually happens for 0.5 sec upon seeing the enemy. Either you die or getting a frag. That's simple.
@MALOK003
@MALOK003 6 ай бұрын
@@provalivay nah man that’s because of the gunrunning, wasn’t like that always
@Hulivilivoo
@Hulivilivoo 6 ай бұрын
To give first aid to the verticality overload is to take ziplines, grappling hook and wing suit out of the game
@provalivay
@provalivay 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing this topic up. I would partially agree on map design & weapon mechanics that would create a problem for the casual gamer, but in that case why 90% of team is braindead on Redacted? It's quite easy map to read in comparison to 128p Manifest. I believe this phenomenon of braindead teammates is lying deeper than we can imagine. I have like 20+ years of xp in FPS games and there always was something in common in all of those games that is related to why ppl are so bad. BF2042 is just better exposes this psychological problem: AVG PLAYER simply afraid to die AND in the same moment he is simply loves to FARM easy frags staying in a safe place behind teammates back. We can perfectly notice this while playing Redacted. Imagine vent room with a 'nades flying here and there, bullets hitting you through smoke and stuff... kind of dangerous to go there, right? Better i stick to the edge of the frontline and farm some frags while being healed & ressed. This can take the whole Redacted round time and both sides will be not able to push as there's simply NOBODY trying to get through this. THEN: after 20th times of try harding i finnaly manage to enter Vent room and hold it for a minutes alone. What is my team doing in the moment? Right: they are still on the previous edge of the frontline waiting for another portion of FARM. They are still don't realize that room is empty and what is needed is just to step inside and fortify it. Then fucking maccay finds me there and all my efforts were useless - frontilne moved back to the previous point and everyone happy farming it again.
@chrisalves11
@chrisalves11 6 ай бұрын
You got it. People seem to loooove staying right on the edge of where theyre supposed to be, whether its standing 1m outside the conquest flag, or 1m outside the breakthrough zone for no apparent reason
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 6 ай бұрын
​@@chrisalves11 Facts. I make a point even if I am playing Casper to be in the breakthrough zone for defense.
@paulsayers3578
@paulsayers3578 6 ай бұрын
My favorite point you brought up is people being ‘afraid to push up’. Time after time is see this, especially on breakthrough. There is a wonderful thing called a ‘smoke grenade’. In their wild confusion and panic, most battlefield players like the dopamine hits they get from lucky frag grenade kills and opt to use those predominately, but I’d argue that your three frag grenade kills a match aren’t worth in the long run when you’re losing every game, so swap those frags for a nice, helpful, team-supportive smoke grenade, and start pushing into those objectives!
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 6 ай бұрын
Almost Tier 1 on smoke grenades. Got like maybe 30 frag kills. I'd argue that the emp grenade is also a very useful tool. As it wipes out equipment during a push. And doesn't get shot down by Irish APS.
@Phoenux289
@Phoenux289 6 ай бұрын
Add to what you said the fact that the "plus system" amplifies the fact that everybody can shoot everyone at any distances. In previous BFs, you would choose your attachments based on your playstyle and your weapon would be better in close, mid or long range. You needed to adapt and choose your engagements based on that. Now with the "plus system", you can just change your whole arsenal of attachments on the fly and engage fights that you would never have done in previous BFs.
@jefferyroberson987
@jefferyroberson987 6 ай бұрын
I totally agree. I thought that was a bad idea from the start cause now there’s not going to be a bunch of weapons to choose from like it was with bf4.
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 6 ай бұрын
Yeah with the only limit being 3 items for each class of attachments 🤦
@rickdagrexican7351
@rickdagrexican7351 6 ай бұрын
It's the variety of attachments that make the difference
@rramrez32ja
@rramrez32ja 6 ай бұрын
See I think the Plus system is magnificent because when I run into a situation that isnt close combat then I can switch to a more effective scope not to snipe. The problem is that all the guns are available to all the classes instead of having class weapons.
@jefferyroberson987
@jefferyroberson987 6 ай бұрын
That’s why you should pick your attachments carefully, as a recon class naturally your worst case scenario should be close quarters. The plus system is ridiculous and I should not be able to switch ammo type, sight and barrel in 5 seconds.
@pschellerg
@pschellerg 6 ай бұрын
I would add some complements, IMHO: - Based on my experience on previous titles, BF2042 is more fast-paced. The characters moves much faster and in turn it's harder to hit them - especially those that have gadgets involving movement, like Mackay and Sundance; - Operators changed the "builds" compared to previous titles. The majority of their gadgets where spread and restricted to some classes on other games. In this one, some operators have more advantages compared to others; - In previous titles, gunplay was restricted to a "specialization": we used to spawn with a certain gameplay in mind (i.e.: long distance, close combat). With the possibility of attachments, the game became more dynamic an I think that take some time to understand it; - The previous topic affected the engagements. You and an enemy wouldn't shoot each other depending on the distance and gun because you know it was worthless. In this title, almost every distance permits engaging; - Regarding weapons, I disagree: snipers and DMRs where easier before (i.e. BF4) because the movement and mechanics where different. Since the characters were slower/heavier, shooting moving enemies or predicting their position were easier. Despite close combat with these weapons was hard, hip fire with DMRs at least was consistent. In BF2042, the accuracy was so affected that sometimes you believe that you hit an enemy, but no shot is accounted (what takes me to next point) - This game appears to have a hard time with netcode (you even mentioned that DICE as looking for something about it involving the number of gadgets). I don't have solid evidence of course, it's based on my experience (and maybe I'm a mediocre player 🥲), but I feel that the game simply doesn't register hits as it should be.
@nyuuuuuuui
@nyuuuuuuui 6 ай бұрын
Great analysis, now if someone at DICE was aware of these issues and how to solve them
@alexdasliebe5391
@alexdasliebe5391 6 ай бұрын
💯Instead, Enders will get suspended again. 🤣🙄
@TheGamingDefinition
@TheGamingDefinition 6 ай бұрын
Notice how Enders stretches out the webcam to fill the whole screen? This is to give you the illusion that his forehead is the biggest in the gaming space, but unfortunately this is absolutely not the case, I still hold that title. Nice try Enders!
@wabaloo7141
@wabaloo7141 6 ай бұрын
I think the way the specialists are spread out also doesn’t help, in bfv I can play as a support player and just drop ammo and forget about it. Now for me to do that I have to play as angel who is listed as a medic for some reason so I’m also worrying about reviving people. Combined with the fact I can die from anywhere makes it just too much to do and still have fun
@drmcstroks
@drmcstroks 6 ай бұрын
Spot on. What I notice to... The longer the round gets drawn out, the more people are sitting in the back of the map "sniping". That's when I look at the scoreboard and there's always 5-6 teamates that are something like a 6-24 kd.
@jhonatanjhs
@jhonatanjhs 6 ай бұрын
I'm a casual player and I agree 100%. The infinite angles you can get shot from and the distance to kill with any weapon. I only play with friends so we can help each other, but even then some (most) matches are just frustrating. From time to time I do try to play solo, maybe I'll play one match before quitting.
@GreatNinjaman
@GreatNinjaman 6 ай бұрын
Honestly, this video perfectly illustrated my BF2042 experience thus far. I started on BF3 and went on to BF4 and BF1 and I was good at them. Not ringing my own bell or anything but I was. BFV came out and it just felt too different from what I was used to so I couldn't get into it. BF2042 took what I didn't like about BF5, a sprinkle of some other bullshit to piss me off (bad spawns, rubber bullets, etc) added horrible level designs, and basically every criticism you've described.
@roderickgladwish
@roderickgladwish 6 ай бұрын
This is me too. I was always below average as a pure shooter. In previous BF games, until 5, I could be useful PTO-ing and healing, res-ing, supplying. I die so much from strange angles when res-ing I’ve been doing it less. It happens a lot when repairing too.
@travisstock
@travisstock 6 ай бұрын
Great points Enders! I think you summed up many of my games. I'm by no means a great player, but I do my best to play support when I'm playing Support. Revives, Resuplies and pushing with my Squad/Team. The angles and map design is very difficult for me to anticipate all the angles. Sometimes I'm beat by better gun play, props, but so often it comes down to an angle that I didn't anticipate. There are SO many differnt angles. And to your point about the accuracy of weapons at distance - I find many of my deaths coming from a player I didn't even register until I'm getting shot. Goes back to having to know EVERY angle on every map and where you could be shot from at any given time. Thanks for that great insight!
@man_ilovefishing
@man_ilovefishing 6 ай бұрын
I just don't feel that "loop" that previous bf had. In 2042 randomness is way too high, that's why i stay off ground.
@Zwaolin
@Zwaolin 6 ай бұрын
I somewhat agree. I also think a lot of good players have quit the franchise. Now you are left with ppl who don't want to improve. As you said, they are perfectly fine hiding in spawn with a sniper.
@josephbrainard441
@josephbrainard441 6 ай бұрын
Every time I play be like: Enemy Team: Everyone has a clan tag, shows no mercy, person I killed gets revived two seconds later, caps most flags within 10 minutes My Team: Can't aim for shit, can barely keep A flag, heads straight into the heat of battle, 10 people die after 5 seconds, I revive two before getting stabbed or sniped(Something important to know is that I usually go for a full revive), one guy with defibrillator ignores everyone, another tries to revive me but dies before he can release M1 Anyways, I'm off to go play BF4
@zDyl
@zDyl 6 ай бұрын
I agree. I got shot across the map so many times and I don't have much map knowledge due to not playing so I feel like I have to flank across the whole map just to shoot them and by then, they have changed positions or I get shot by someone laying prone in the middle of no where. Thats why I only play redacted, but even with that I got bored and uninstalled due to everyone using the scanner and glitches
@dandylion1987
@dandylion1987 6 ай бұрын
The battlefield playerbase hates good players.
@hjk3351
@hjk3351 6 ай бұрын
I play often. 3.2 kdr and im constantly matched up against players as good as me but my team will be full of lukewarm iq players going between 0.50-1.50 kdr its really frustrating when you are carrying your team consistently but the players on your team dont do anything but die. They dont revive, dont capture objectives, arent competent at using vehicles, but somehow the enemy team always has as many wildcats jets and tanks as the map will allow. Oh dont forget all the enemy players using liz rockets javelins and fxm missiles to lock me every 10 seconds. But my team cant seen to get it together to do that. Some days ill play multiple games in a row before i win because my team is so trash
@jackrabbit8255
@jackrabbit8255 6 ай бұрын
Same bro. I feel that. I have 3.1 kd as an infantry. People just fail to do the most basic actions in 2042. Apparently just pressing the trigger when an enemy is near your crosshairs is now a skillful move instead of expected.
@ivang8655
@ivang8655 6 ай бұрын
Same. When I play with a squad of friends, game is great. With only 2 of us, painful, no revives no ammo. We will be top squad, then next like 5 best squads are enemy team and end up loosing.
@DontHesitate140
@DontHesitate140 6 ай бұрын
2042 u can't be successful like other games
@tacobandit1926
@tacobandit1926 6 ай бұрын
No we dont 💀.
@digitalmontenegro
@digitalmontenegro 6 ай бұрын
I think that is clear that in 2042 you have to be extra aware of your surroundings, on top of that, there's the explosive spam that somehow is now semi-contained. The below average player just can cope with the amount of information thrown at them and the reality is that in some lobbies you can get stomped in little time.
@lucki--
@lucki-- 6 ай бұрын
Played a round of Conquest earlier today and an AI on my team finished in 5th place. That was not a fun round I’ll tell you that much 😂
@andress8384
@andress8384 6 ай бұрын
AI shouldn’t be on servers, bf1 and bf4 don’t have AI
@tigim88
@tigim88 6 ай бұрын
my biggest problem with the last few bf games is that they are like a Quake game on a bf map .. it gives quake feeling not battlefield, just chaos
@matthewgerbutavich4582
@matthewgerbutavich4582 6 ай бұрын
The hit register and servers. I find myself constantly dumping 30 rounds into an enemy's chest, get them within an inch of their health, only to die by a couple rounds from a G57. Also, I feel the servers are terrible. Players are shooting through walls, crates and feel like theyre about 5 seconds ahead of me with the trigger already pulled by the time I turn a corner.
@Antivist_
@Antivist_ 6 ай бұрын
I swear 60% of rounds i've played at least half my team is seemingly nowhere to be found as if they are AFK the whole round. Many times it seems like only 1.5 squads on my team are active in the round. While the enemy team seemingly has every player active and sweating like their life depends on winning that round.
@Cha_Koibito
@Cha_Koibito 6 ай бұрын
Yup it's f magic sh*t right there... What's f wrong with 60 ppl in team omg XD Because even bots now is way better doing stuff like flank or take enemy home points.
@jkulcsar100
@jkulcsar100 6 ай бұрын
excellent video and so true. in addition to everything you have said, the zones in breakthrough take all the points you make and amplify them. some bad maps have terrible zones on breakthrough that make all the issues so much worse!
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Some make no sense at all.
@Yukitta69
@Yukitta69 6 ай бұрын
fun fact just yesterday on redacted my team could not push thorugh and one of my squad mates been able to get to B, spawned on him took a shotgun[the 880 not the auto shotgun im not lame] and railed like 20 people and we won.
@clutchcananderson9157
@clutchcananderson9157 6 ай бұрын
The multiple angles, robo dog, gun turrets, killed at range from any weapon, blast damage from everywhere and a fast TTK have folks scared to push or play aggressively. They want to play but don’t want to be killed every 5 seconds. A guy I was playing with the other night was 4-32 . His quote as he was giving up was, “I’m being kill before I even know where it’s coming from “.
@KevInfamousYT
@KevInfamousYT 6 ай бұрын
BF1 32 v 2042 32 would be such a landslide bruh, the absolute mayhem that a single flag point on 1 can have JUST to get a point is insane
@Terabirb
@Terabirb 6 ай бұрын
Me staring the new player dead in the eyes before vaporizing his entire healthbar in a nanosecond with my maxed out LCMG at 100+ meters:
@Billie19
@Billie19 5 ай бұрын
We started playing with friends about 3 weeks ago. I always go with Falck, reviving, dropping medikits, healing. I get killed next to about 4-5 people, and no one is able to revive me. Searching for alternative routes to pass the choke point is useless, we're always alone.
@user-qm6jb9id3q
@user-qm6jb9id3q 6 ай бұрын
One of the biggest causes for horrible team mates in this game is the lack of a proper class system.
@PFC_Kachowski
@PFC_Kachowski 6 ай бұрын
The last point I would add is vehicle imbalance -- if you're playing against a team with an insane airship pilot, that's usually when I see all my teammates in base sniping or trying to shoot it down
@zelo3238
@zelo3238 21 күн бұрын
My teammates flat out refuse to stand in flag zones so we lose breakthrough games in less than 15.
@_laryssa
@_laryssa 5 ай бұрын
Every time I go anywhere in this game I feel like I'm going to get violated by all 360 angles
@markyturner
@markyturner 6 ай бұрын
One of my challenges is visibility. Is just hard to see what's going on, with all the chaos, and when you’re being shot from halfway across the map by an AR. When it gets too much, I tend to lie back and go Caspar. I find that simple act can turn a breakthrough game around. Suddenly your team can see their team and can work out where to shoot. I also like to go Rao with a soflam, but people so rarely shoot rockets at painted vehicles it’s situational.
@vfxswagg1337
@vfxswagg1337 5 ай бұрын
I'd also like to add that the yick rate sucks. By the time the game registered what actually happened to me in order for me to respond, I'm already halfway dead. I shoot first and fairly accurately according to my screen, but somehow I'm dying damn near anytime someone is able to look at me. There's a whole delay between my trigger pull and the weapon firing on top of compensating for their fast movements and my muzzle velocity. Using a "hand cannon" on someone running right in front of me is a death sentence.
@MrRedball6
@MrRedball6 6 ай бұрын
Enders you described by struggle with 2042 perfectly. I am a very casual gamer, I play whenever I have time. When I first started playing 2042 I thought to myself I was never this bad in BF4. I don’t know maybe it’s cause I am getting older and don’t have as much time to game. I never give up I just suck at 2042 😂. Usually always feel bad for my team!
@shekeldealer
@shekeldealer 6 ай бұрын
I do agree with you, map design espcially on manifest makes your brain overload with infos. Also what is that overlay you are using for the shots ? It seems nice and i would love to use it !
@MikeNebgen
@MikeNebgen 6 ай бұрын
Totally right. Also, crazy weapon balance is my prime complaint. An enemy can absorb an entire AR mag, but then turn and one shot kill me with a pistol from 50 meters.
@TheMassgames
@TheMassgames 6 ай бұрын
I think another thing that makes players sit and not push is the insane amount of explosive spam on Battlefield 2042. If you are seeing a bunch of greandes, sundance grenade, incendiary etc explode right in front of you there are much less openings to push from.
@SirCuddles55
@SirCuddles55 6 ай бұрын
This happens in redacted almost all the time, two teams getting just stuck in choke points and spam all kind of explosives for the whole round and players stop pushing and then it just kills off all the fun in the game.
@provalivay
@provalivay 6 ай бұрын
but what is root cause of it? ppl simply afraid to try and die in a computer game.
@nw2761
@nw2761 6 ай бұрын
​@provalivay well yeah they see it as instant death so i dont really blame them. You have to know when to time it and how to use smokes effectively to get through
@TombstoneActual42
@TombstoneActual42 6 ай бұрын
Doesn't help that ammo boxes immediately replenish a grenade so they can keep spamming them. V managed to mitigate this by requiring you to visit a resupply station to replenish your hand grenades.
@griffin1366
@griffin1366 6 ай бұрын
@@SirCuddles55 When Exposure first released red*it was talking about "Operation Metro vibes" in that small corridore on C point as they just spam grenades at eachother... Yikes.
@djjordg2748
@djjordg2748 6 ай бұрын
I remember on 4 you would often have a lot of people just follow you on flank paths, on 2042 people seem more eager to camp and be more passive
@yarincool1237
@yarincool1237 6 ай бұрын
i hated the fact that in bf3 and bf4 after like 30 meters your full auto gun would just go 20 meters right and left (accuracy, not recoil) it felt so annoying and while i loved those games after playing 2042 i much prefer the gunplay of this game, yes it might be more annoying that you can actually die to someone at 50-100 meter with an ar but its better then taking 20 bullets to kill someone at 30 meters in bf4 IMO.
@jaykoh1990
@jaykoh1990 6 ай бұрын
I have never used more smoke like 2042 then any other bf game
@andreaparolini1755
@andreaparolini1755 6 ай бұрын
I did in BF V too lol
@21Kolb
@21Kolb 5 ай бұрын
fax.
@dallebull
@dallebull 6 ай бұрын
Noone dares to push chokepoits, i often have to rambo in alone, getting 1-2 kills without any backup. Respawn and push again. Repeat until end of match.
@Axurias
@Axurias 6 ай бұрын
I had the same feeling in Battlefield 4 when playing operation locker. Man I had a love/hate relationship with these 24/7 locker servers. Only the top fraggers would push but all the rest was just camping and shooting.
@provalivay
@provalivay 6 ай бұрын
absolutely same pattern is present in most of more or less competitive FPS games. this is a part of human nature and nothing can change it until ppl realize that they are learning when diying, not when camping whole game in a same fucking corner. but does they want to learn? that's another problem.
@Plan3tBob
@Plan3tBob 4 ай бұрын
As a returning player from BF3 and BF4... You have nailed what I'm feeling. In BF4 I had far fewer deaths out of nowhere... In BF2042 I find that I'm forever being killed by a sniper/heli/tank that's miles away or I simply didn't see. I also find it harder to 'see' players than I did before in BF4/3. And funnily enough I did think to myself that I need to go back to basics and move further from the fight and try and master ranged (sniper) play before getting closer and into more open/unforgiving areas. I certainly find this game way harder to survive in than the BF4 days. I've always tried to revive where I can and try not to do too many 'Rambo revives'! ;) Anyway, great to see an experienced player realising some of the challenges to 'average' players.
@21Kolb
@21Kolb 5 ай бұрын
the biggest issue i have with BF2042 is the lack of class proficiency. A team with only like 3 medics isn't enough. I love running medic because i am constantly dropping ammo and reviving to keep the team alive. Also, knowing how to medic and other classes is important. When I don't see medics using smoke grenades to revive it irks my nerves. Concealment is key in this game and It helps me a lot. Now, i dont average 100 kills a game like other fraggers do, but i work on the little things that the team needs.
@vw2rover
@vw2rover 6 ай бұрын
Plus you are constantly spotted, and there is no reward to work as a squad like in other BF games.
@lillybyte
@lillybyte 6 ай бұрын
Battlefield wants to be Planetside in a more confined space. I think the other problem is every class having access to every weapon type should be a no no for balance.
@guillaumec.7697
@guillaumec.7697 6 ай бұрын
Your video is spot on ! In my opinion , putting larger red zone to limit access for both team on map like Manifest could help a little bit. Playing with smoke is the only option available to actually enjoy playing any class.
@bojer1415
@bojer1415 6 ай бұрын
You forgot on very important thing a netcode. Dying on 1 frame. Dying when damage log showing you less then 100 damage received. Most best cases you don't see any damage from enemy and you die. On Europe servers I saw strange behaviors. Some days enemies have very low reaction or any when I shooting on them. But some days I dying so fast where I don't have option how to react on gunfire. Second option is mostly repeating and that is maybe reason why people hate this game and people which still playing this game looks like noobs (not all but the majority ).
@troylee8132
@troylee8132 6 ай бұрын
This is true. I go negative just pushing most the time with no one behind me.
@walrusdojo
@walrusdojo 6 ай бұрын
It’s good when we farm the casual dads 😇 but it’s bad when they’re our teammates 😡
@nikolasferreira3247
@nikolasferreira3247 6 ай бұрын
Bf4 suffers the same problem. The game is old already yet you see 140 players who have no fucking idea of what they are doing.
@adem1874
@adem1874 6 ай бұрын
OG BF3/4/1 player here with a background in Counter Strike at a high skill level. I recently picked up BF2042 on sale and played with most guns and agents and I must say I agree with everything you said in this video. Map design is awful, guns are basically lasers at any distance and the game itself is just so damn overwhelming. Now all of this paired with average/casual players on 128p and you get situations where masses of people stay together at one point and dont push. In previous BFs everyone would know their purpose and how to play a map( most of times).
@kurtispalmer8168
@kurtispalmer8168 6 ай бұрын
Gave up on it ages ago (about 9 months now) maybe longer. To much frustration, you can be the most determined man charging through endless doors only to realize your entire team stays together at all times all.
@parky6031
@parky6031 6 ай бұрын
I hate not getting revived when medics are close. I also hate when people play Sundance in redacted spamming scatter grenades and not even using their weapon.
@K_LeShaeya
@K_LeShaeya 6 ай бұрын
Everything in this video is spot on! Now I may not be the best player, certainly no where near Enders' level, but I do have some affinity for skill, I go from point to point, relay info to my team, whether they read it or not, throw ammo and heals everywhere I go, like the OCD person I am (I drop a crate of whatever literally every time it becomes available), and in BF2042 I have consistently risen top the top 10 and sometimes top 5 spots on the team list. Needless to say this is abnormal. If I jump back to BF1 or BF4 I usually get stuck around the 15-20 player spots, I don't have the skills to bump my K/Ds up that far unless I get a lucky game. Then again, I don't have the confidence to be a team leader like Enders does, I have way more confidence in playing in a support role. When the Season 6 map came out I was consistently hitting top on the team pretty much every match, win or loss, and not because I was taking out opponents, I was getting high on points from all my ammo and healing drops, revives and such. Falck is literally my most played and most well-played Specialist in 2042 for that reason. She's OP for a player like me. Also reminded me of my early days in BF4, with one of my best matches ever played being one where I went 0 kills and 0 deaths, with over 170,000 points, from dropping meds and 100%-reviving. I always see people commenting "No one ever drops ammo, medics just walk/run past you" and that is what drives me to play a support role over a "shooty go run run" role like Enders. The drive for me is to be my best support, deliver that ammo and those medicals to those people in need, so that THEY can be their best. It's why I am really into BattleBit currently, the amount of "Thank you so much" I hear every time I support someone is just *Pacha OK Hand gif* Anyway, between the aforementioned Gunplay and Map design as Enders has pointed out, and some dirtbag who tried to DOX me I have pretty much given up on 2042 (that and my EA Play sub has run out).
@Lucasmiller6969
@Lucasmiller6969 6 ай бұрын
I’m relatively new to BF2042 (played different BF games before that tho) and saying that you can be killed from the most random corners, angels and places is such a spot on thing. I never know where to expect enemies and where to push it’s so frustrating
@JortGobbler
@JortGobbler 5 ай бұрын
The main thing I get frustrated by is being dead completely behind cover with 7 medics nearby and not one revive. Maybe it’s because it didn’t show nearby medics but it felt like I got revived way more often and in worse positions in battlefield 4 Edit: I even saw a post today talking about how bf4 medics will go full doom slayer to revive a guy who died in the middle of a field
@Stoner42000
@Stoner42000 5 ай бұрын
I always sacrifice myself for other team mates which always ends up not working out the way I planned lol.
@trevordilley2070
@trevordilley2070 6 ай бұрын
Great video. I'm new to this battlefield, but not new to battlefield in general. I consider myself a mediocre player (1.3 KD) and I find myself near the top of the leaderboards in my games often. I thought it was strange that with my mediocre stats I am able to stay within the top players in most of my games. This video explained a lot of great points
@Thebodfitness
@Thebodfitness 5 ай бұрын
I’m so new I can’t even play online yet, tried a few times and got about 5 kills, was lost on every map, and my team always lost lol. Been playing with bots so learn the maps but when I went back to multiplayer I found that some of the maps are available to play solo offline🤷🏼‍♂️ so I was still lost
@LukeP999
@LukeP999 6 ай бұрын
I also think the battle pass challenges are to blame. I play my worst when unlocking attachments or using weapons I don't usually use / am bad with. I spend so much energy trying to use things I find pointless or unfun to use and do worse. When I doing bp objs, my kd drops from 3 to 2 or even 1 depending on the challenges.That is to say, I think casual players try to do the BP challenges a whenever they log on and do even worse. I don't think removing BPs would necessarily make everyone better though, just a possible compounding factor.
@laws1n874
@laws1n874 6 ай бұрын
Totally true, its my first time playing battlefield, and i noticed that there is a lot of angles where i can be shooted, (i played cs my entire life) so i usually focus on capturing the points and killing players that i find. I need to understands the respawns, and rotations 😅. Any recomendation?
@BenM388
@BenM388 6 ай бұрын
The game is very overwhelming for me, i just start getting very frustrated and end up switching the game off after like3-4 games, never know where to go, far too much going on around me and i literally feel lost and dont know what to do, im the type of player that will end a game on like 5 objectives caputred and 15ish kills and like 14 deaths and that feels super frustrating because im out there actually trying and getting my arse kicked constantly
@ApolloTheDerg
@ApolloTheDerg 6 ай бұрын
Early on in this game, the lack of proper scoreboards and servers is part of it imo as well. Back in the day on BF3 and BF4, getting pub stomped on maps like locker by CFA, tK, and SLF guys inspired me to stick around and learn movement, aim, and other neat stuff about the game. Seeing those scoreboard topping players inspired me to learn more, make friends with, and keep going toe to toe with these great players. That is all gone from this game for the most part, a lot of the social aspects of Battlefield are stripped down or severely reduced like all chat being off by default etc. Also totally right about angles and verticality, it takes a lot more on the fly processing and deaths from all the random angles, especially ones you thought were clear or covered by team. Also it’s funny how the games AI PTFO more than the players. I am eating pizza btw
@willstokes7266
@willstokes7266 6 ай бұрын
The amoun of deaths i get from lime 5 shots from smgs 100m away pisses me off
@ZwizuCS
@ZwizuCS 6 ай бұрын
being a counter strike lower tier professional and playing bf2042, it feels like im not even playing with human beings, literally worse than silvers somehow ive never played battlefield in my life and i still obliterate most of everyone i see, but always lose
@V3ntilator
@V3ntilator 6 ай бұрын
In Conquest for example, camping snipers have as good as no value for the team at all as they capture nothing. Snipers is fine in some other modes.
@mistymang321
@mistymang321 6 ай бұрын
Idk, part of this fees like an issue chronic of battlefield in general. 30% of the time, you’ll get a team that knows how to work together and aren’t afraid of dying for the objective and 70% you’ll get a team where most people are content with just picking a hallway/spot and waiting for enemies to run up. In 2042, this is more prevalent due to the laser like accuracy of the weapons like you mentioned but it feels like the entire game is skewed towards kills rather than team based play.
@baumanncolin
@baumanncolin 5 ай бұрын
You are spot on. There are so many angles, and too much going on (explosions, mackay, sundance). Also the HUD is pretty terrible. It overwhelms you compared to other battlefields. Many of my friends did not stay with the game as they just felt dying randomly from everywhere.
@smft9147
@smft9147 6 ай бұрын
i just got the game and i deadass thought half of these people were bots... dropped 65 kills in my first game with the default gun. ALSO NOBODY REVIVIES LIKE WHY ARE YOU A MEDIC
@king-px2fn
@king-px2fn 6 ай бұрын
Perfect analysis i come from bf4 and bought 2042 a month ago and yeah you can die from hundreds of meters in every directions from any kind of weapon in less than 2 seconds... The people who made this game have never played a single battlefield game or any competitive FPS im sure
@provalivay
@provalivay 6 ай бұрын
dude, bf4 happened 10 years ago. why more modern game should be totally same?
@king-px2fn
@king-px2fn 6 ай бұрын
@@provalivay my perfect battlefield was BF2/2142 so more like 20 years ago lmao Jokes aside, you can't defend this game dude, it's worst in every single aspects than any other BF
@R0oD
@R0oD 6 ай бұрын
Spot on I would say, I'm one of those casual players, but I don't go sniping, I try to improve in the game watching good players play. Problem for me is, when I try to copy their game play, my lack of aim and movement skills makes me lose more then I win, so it makes me play less games, I don't have the drive to grind the game, so I get less experience, then most players stil trying to play the game.
@omarcaro6858
@omarcaro6858 6 ай бұрын
is it common to get into a game with 95% of the lobby filled with bots? i’ve been trying to find a decent game for days now and the only things that have actual players is the portal mode i just don’t get it lol😅
@mannycalavera2335
@mannycalavera2335 5 ай бұрын
One thing that makes any random Battlefield server feel clueless is that there is no matchmaking. it has always been that way for Battlefield. You hop on there and go 68-13 with people complaining that you are hacking. It is literally what made me realize that for some games, Skill Based Matchmaking can be a good thing in terms of overall experience. Beating up on people who are either 7 years old, picked up the game yesterday, or have the game sense of a 70 year old librarian is only fun for so long, but does not make for a long term satisfying experience.
@coolguy125
@coolguy125 6 ай бұрын
Idk how many times I’ve been in a random squad where they sit the entire match… blows my mind
@waterboy330
@waterboy330 5 ай бұрын
I think part of it is the game almost discourages headset communications. You can really only talk to squad mates and type but cant do it easily as a whole and then most people don’t use the headset because of that.
@mwa3476
@mwa3476 6 ай бұрын
I think you got it bang on. I was kind of surprised that you didn't talk about the bots from the early days to shore up player counts. Stuck to the real shit. Good job.
@CPTNJDY
@CPTNJDY 6 ай бұрын
Try using smoke grenades for everything. People are so brain dead you can nope out of any engagement, rush tanks with C4, and breach damn near any room you want. It's pretty funny
@amirharony3859
@amirharony3859 6 ай бұрын
as a noob in the game i think there should be an easier way to connect teammates asking them to group togheter and strike as one
@gabrielhartzog4274
@gabrielhartzog4274 5 ай бұрын
Hell I feel like I'm the only in the lobby trying to revive
@smft9147
@smft9147 6 ай бұрын
i just got the game and i thought half of these people were bots... dropped 65 kills in my first game with the default gun
@ngunuss6482
@ngunuss6482 6 ай бұрын
Camping in bf2042 is so common, teammates don't revive, I have instances where I cleared tunnels on redacted, looked back, and almost everyone is gone. Throwing smoke grenades and expecting people to push forward in this game feels like a waste of time
@skeye.official
@skeye.official 6 ай бұрын
introduce a mini game when reviving someone. I also hardly game revive or ammo from medics
@KayezTP
@KayezTP Ай бұрын
That's scary bro, you literally described my issue in the end of this video
@AX_Hunterz_06
@AX_Hunterz_06 20 күн бұрын
I just had a Squad of 4 Camp Under a Bridge. My Whole Team Runs over them and misses 1 Enemy. While im Watching him, Marking him he Proceeds to Mow down like 20 People without anyone realizing?he wasnt hidden or anything just laying there. And im justthere in the Killcam Wondering how Stupid my Mates are
@hjk3351
@hjk3351 6 ай бұрын
I play often. 3.2 kdr and im constantly matched up against players as good as me but my team will be full of lukewarm iq players going between 0.50-1.50 kdr its really frustrating when you are carrying your team consistently but the players on your team dont do anything but die. They dont revive, dont capture objectives, arent competent at using vehicles, but somehow the enemy team always has as many wildcats jets and tanks as the map will allow. Oh dont forget all the enemy players using liz rockets javelins and fxm missiles to lock me every 10 seconds. But my team cant seen to get it together to do that. Some days ill play multiple games in a row before i win because my team is so trash
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