Why are Bonds so Expensive Now in Oldschool Runescape?

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The bond in oldschool has been out of control lately. Sure historically the price of bonds goes up over time but this year alone its gone up over 8 million gold. Today we are going to diving in to the specifics of what is happening. What is causing this level of gold inflation in osrs, and how expensive will bonds be in the future.
Were also going to be covering all of the biggest price changes this month. Thanks to upcoming updates like the project rebalance and varlamore part 2, there is a lot to talk about this month.
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@FlippingOldschool Ай бұрын

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@Pidbullz Ай бұрын

Just need GE to accept platinum tokens and expand beyond max cash limit that way, keep the gp limit as a fun old thing

@charlesdai6611 Ай бұрын

The same thing happened to the price of bonds in rs3. I think it is the shortage of players buying bonds with real world money. Supply shortages.

@charlesdai6611 Ай бұрын

Also rs3 has no reachable gp limit now. It is like quintillion.

@generalshepherd4824 Ай бұрын

Clearly it's bidenomics

@miciso666 Ай бұрын

did u forgot plat tokens exist? u complain bout max cash being 2.147b. but completely forget plat tokens exist for this exact purpose.

@spstange Ай бұрын

IRL currencies are just being devalued. Recommend ppl move their money into OSRS gold as a hedge!

@charlesbrown4483 Ай бұрын

Unironically people were doing this during crashes in the early days of crypto.

@andrewevans7992 Ай бұрын

@@charlesbrown4483people still do it, including myself

@YoutubeLoves2Cenosor Ай бұрын

Venezuelans taking notes 😂😅

@aaronyonny2139 Ай бұрын

Usd is like fallout bottlecaps. Worthless but the trust and agreement says its value. They killed JFK for wanting to bring back Gold standard

@charlesdai6611 Ай бұрын

Hedge with risk of account and gp banning isn’t really that good of a hedge.

@SparcMac Ай бұрын

It hurts my soul the Armadyl Godsword is equivalent to a Bond in price right now

@FlippingOldschool Ай бұрын

The godsword prices are so weird now😐

@tuqq5238 Ай бұрын

I remember when ags was 120m back around 2008. Also most sot after godsword for a long ass time.

@Channel-io4xu Ай бұрын

last time I played I sold my zgs for 4.5m now that i'm back playing osrs it's 28m damn

@sum-dum_nerd Ай бұрын

pking just isnt as cool as it used to be, age caught up to folk and want to chill or the gap between bowfa/virtus or bots vs regular people. loved when ags was the go to spec weapon for everything, now people think def reductions more important

@laurivaltter Ай бұрын

@@sum-dum_nerd pking is in bad state because the skill level gap between players is not balanced. super bad or super good, there is no middle class really, like in every other old game aswell that has an player versus player option

@emilianolopez3450 Ай бұрын

The short answer: Because Jagex didn't learn nothing from RS3's economics problems. The short explanation: If you print money with new broken bosses and don't establish a way or mechanic to burn that money, you get inflation.

@slayer100141 Ай бұрын

OSRS needs true item/gold sinks. The GE tax is not enough and it is really starting to show. If OSRS had something like Invention from RS3 where you can disassemble almost every item in the game for resources you can use in a skill then it would help massively with how many items are being pumped into the game; as an aside I also think this would help the stackable clue arguments because clue scroll uniques would potentially have an actual use so their price wouldn't drop too badly by more clues being done. This is all to say we need a new skill like Invention in RS3 because I can't see any way to implement a true one size fits all item/gold sink without tying it to a skill in anyway. Last sidenote I also think this is why Summoning or a skill extremely like it would also be helpful because Summoning also was used as an item/gold sink with how many random items you needed to make some of the pouches for familiars.

@Phnxkon Ай бұрын

@slayer100141 it is the solution for items becoming devalued. All it would do is make gp move around more. I think we would need the opposite and some way to siphon gp out. Taxes feel bad honestly. Something that sucks out large amounts of gold like construction. Maybe sailing will have this cost built in? Also making pvm not shit out gp would be nice.

@emilianolopez3450 Ай бұрын

@@Phnxkon it could be like new minigames that make you pay a fee to play for a non tradeable reward, or some mechanic like that to delete cash.

@antscaleeez7924 27 күн бұрын

As for gp theres been some recent lowkey ones but the gp coming in outweighs it, cuz i mustve spent at least 40-50m in death charges from vardorvis and im sure im not the only one that had troubles lol

@PapaJodster 19 күн бұрын

It's honestly so refreshing I'm not the only one that noticed. I've quit this game permanently as a result of this dumpster fire economy. Jagex doesn't seem concerned at all about bots I can't support that.

@crasyrob Ай бұрын

Zombie pirates being in the wildy is balanced from a player perspective, but whether it's the player, the bot, or the PKer that walks out with the loot, all of that is still being brought into the economy. They are the exact opposite of a gold sink. Fever spiders seem like someone forgot to add a 0 to the end of each item's drop rate, save for the Kwuarms. A level 42 slayer mob should not be that lucrative. Making everything 10x rarer would not have them be a money task, but rather a low level task where you might leave with a few small upgrades and a bit more money.

@sum-dum_nerd Ай бұрын

people worried about fever spiders when you can get 6 whips in a task at abyssal demons.. nerf abby demons!!

@flawless7019 Ай бұрын

@@sum-dum_nerdthat’s not even remotely close to being an argument.

@sum-dum_nerd Ай бұрын

@@flawless7019 whos arguing? god forbid theres easy reliable gp makers right?

@flawless7019 Ай бұрын

@@sum-dum_nerd Abby demons are not profitable unless you receive a whip, which is a 1/512 drop. Fever spiders give consistent Alchs while also having a lower slayer requirement. The comparison just isn’t the same

@sum-dum_nerd Ай бұрын

@@flawless7019 the comparison im making is the way jagex balances stuff. they dont have a superior, so no chance of imbued heart like you have for kurasks which are notorious for being 1m/hr no imbued heart drop. the time investment is laughable, and this is truely just overhyped. cuz youre not getting 2m/hr at its tier, and i know damn well mains will do it got an hour, get bored, and go raid because thats what i did

@Discokrieg Ай бұрын

Osrs economy getting the IRL economy treatment.

@MythrilZenith Ай бұрын

We're almost hitting the point where a Fang is cheaper than a Bond, while Tbow and Shadow are basically impossible to farm for people who don't already own them. This economy is going insane.

@ALostCAWs Ай бұрын

I'm still baffled by how much the Fang dropped in price. I bought mine when it was still around 24-26 mil.

@Gills420 Ай бұрын

pre eoc buddy welcome to pre eoc, go take a look at rs3 if you think this is inane........

@natesthegoat1464 Ай бұрын

@@ALostCAWs its a great weapon too at a lot of bosses. I think they should buff the fang

@xAnimey Ай бұрын

@@ALostCAWsabouch which fang are we talking? Im a bit nooby but I dont wanna miss out to buy it haha

@xAnimey Ай бұрын

@@Gills420pre eoc? What u mean.

@ividosrs Ай бұрын

Remember when they said no more new gargoyles or zulrahs then poceeded to make even more insane drop tables? Now we even have low lvl mobs with crazy gp/hr...

@BOOYOUDEAD Ай бұрын

those were completely different Employees unfortunately. The game direction has been redirected downward since they appointed the new Mods.

@meessmit1103 Ай бұрын

zulrah is a joke now lol. if u do 40 kills/h its like 3m/h (incl ur shadow costs).

@Solrex_the_Sun_King Ай бұрын

We need gold sinks in the game, clearly the new mods are selling gold and wanted more of it

@Rondigity92 Ай бұрын

definitely based around selling more gold via bonds

@gators9570 Ай бұрын

Zombie pirates plus the new fever spiders show how little they care about balancing money making. Revs have been insane forever but at least with revs there’s more risk and you need to have decent stats to make the big money. Zombie pirates shit gp out to level 40s

@iKatray Ай бұрын

being in the wilderness doesnt mean its "balanced" if someone dies there the money still comes into the game. The wilderness adds entirely way too much raw GP.

@FailBucketFilms 27 күн бұрын

But less ppl are willing to do that activity due to its risk, so there is still some level of balance. If revs weren't in the wildy, everyone would be doing them all the time.

@KCzz15 Ай бұрын

Lowlife 1 through 108, I'd imagine that had some effect.

@RRocket02 Ай бұрын

LOL true that

@gmail4344 Ай бұрын

😂

@Mjupi Ай бұрын

Assuming 1 bond per lowlife due to how quickly they died, 108 bonds isn't that much considering how many bonds are sold per day

@KCzz15 Ай бұрын

@@Mjupi Still thought, it was all at once and likely had copycats.

@vladu__e Ай бұрын

he died a while back, he's been waiting for sponsors to release videos while he pretends he's using that time to get content for the series. his stats haven't changed in at least 6 weeks

@tnylilrobot Ай бұрын

Bought 10 bonds for $55 in mexico. So 130m for $55. Jagex is gunning for gold farmers livelyhood

@user-hz6no2wg1j 23 күн бұрын

How

@gameandhike5844 20 күн бұрын

Gold fluctuates between $0.15 - 0.20 per mil on the black market so your 130m would only cost $20-25 on the black matket

@burelmcnamara1851 17 күн бұрын

@@gameandhike5844 but that good deal comes with a risk of being banned

@dylansmith4918 17 күн бұрын

@@gameandhike5844Yeah with high risk of ban.

@celebratecrypto3693 15 күн бұрын

How do you buy them in Mexico? I believe your card information has to match the country vpn so using USA card with vpn in Mexico don’t work right

@whale605 Ай бұрын

To give an idea of how expensive these are, the rs3 bonds were ~15m in sep 2017.

@SpikedPinapple Ай бұрын

Bond prices have went up due to the fact you can convert a bond to a 14 day code and be sold for cash directly. Its why bond prices have increased a lot more than items.

@donsolos Ай бұрын

Legalizing rwt? That seems odd

@SpikedPinapple Ай бұрын

@@donsolos you can try it right now, you can buy a bond and convert it to a 14 day code. Doesn't even cost like making them tradable either

@TheRabbidChipmunk Ай бұрын

I believe the new group boss was confirmed in the dev stream to be draconic and dragonbane works on it

@joshClevi Ай бұрын

Same and didn’t they say it’ll bring the first draconic weapon

@GooseExcuse Ай бұрын

@@joshClevi first draconic mage* weapon yeah

@akalaramorgan9242 Ай бұрын

i believe the exact words used was, Interviewer - "Will it be a dragon?". Dev "It will be now!"

@gators9570 Ай бұрын

@@akalaramorgan9242I still don’t think the community has caught on fully. Cause the dragon bane weaps are still relatively close to where they’ve been for a while. Could see them jump into 70-80m range for a little once the update hits

@akalaramorgan9242 Ай бұрын

@@gators9570 DHL has already seen a price bump, DHCB has also already gone up but no-where near the DHL, the new Wand is gonna be expensive, so day 1 group boss hunting will be the way to go! This is a FREE CLAN EVENT added by JAGEX!

@ohcrounches1989 Ай бұрын

I googled "why are osrs bonds so expensive now" and ur video was top result. Lots of ppl are sharing your video in osrs groups on fb rn. Great video i learned a lot from it instant like instant sub.

@ElliotNess-jg8gt Ай бұрын

Listen, best GP per hour is a steady job!

@pwntwnt Ай бұрын

The main problem is jagex, creating more areas accessible to bots instead of removing the areas where there are more bots (lava dragons, revenants) or simply banning them and implementing better anti-cheating, bots screw up the economy a lot

@ragingmcqueen Ай бұрын

Then go figure out a better anti cheat. Cheating is a problem in every single game these days. It's not a battle you can win.

@BOOYOUDEAD Ай бұрын

you honestly have no idea how the runescape economy "functions" and it shows by your thoughts of bots. Just play the game and stop pretending to know solutions to a fictional war that has been ongoing since 2004.

@Latinblood59 Ай бұрын

Yeah, you’d have to come up with a solution and propose that to Jagex. The thing is, once Jagex implements a fix, the bots will make a workaround. So, it’s always a back and forth battle.

@teste-yh5df Ай бұрын

@@ragingmcqueen you cannot win, but you can improve. If a content would require more hours to play before to access, then, bots would need to bot way more to get profit, and maybe getting banned before profit

@michaelf184 Ай бұрын

They can get rid of bots if they really wanted too. Issue is… simple… how much $$ (stock holders $$) what percentage.. is from Bot’s?

@xJabro Ай бұрын

fever spiders adding alchables in large numbers goes against recent game design principles, im shocked by it

@nickbmxguy Ай бұрын

Well they just nerfed it.

@internetman8015 Ай бұрын

Inflationary content and the max cash stack limit are issues that need to be prioritized by the end of the year or we're going to start running into big economic problems.

@hardup9809 Ай бұрын

I don't know why this is so funny but it is, like this is a major real world problem right now almost everywhere and we are discussing it in an online mmo because it's an actual issue here to, kinda crazy tbh

@urekmazino6800 Ай бұрын

@@hardup9809lmao capitalism baby wooh!

@donsolos Ай бұрын

@@hardup9809economies are the hardest part to get right in mmo's. It's a very finicky thing and if done wrong has disastrous implications. It's hard to design fool proof systens for problems you dont even know you will run into

@gogeode Ай бұрын

The OSRS economy really needs some way to get gold out of the economy better, if there isn't something put into place the game's economy is going to fall apart.

@TheStarspire Ай бұрын

Brokers fees to list a transaction on the GE. Regardless of whether it sells. That’s a major money sink in EVE Online, Guild Wars 2, and I think even WoW.

@donsolos Ай бұрын

There is simply just very little that can be done about it other than adding a skill that sucks out 200m gold per 99. But even that is just a bandaid. I mean how much gold is injected every single day just from high alching?

@mmmhowbowfoqyew 24 күн бұрын

Go pking and trash the loot key. Joker style lighting the cash on fire.

@stretchymc5126 Ай бұрын

the OSRS 3a items skyrocketing above max cash suspiciously coincides with RS3's max cash changes which prevented people manipulating the market on mega rares like party hats

@DakabinYo Ай бұрын

That actually is a really really good point I didn’t even think about, they can do it on osrs now because not too long ago you couldn’t swap any rs3 to osrs for a few months for a decent price because there was too much that had been swapped

@austinwilburn1772 Ай бұрын

The Aztec Serpent boss is going to be considered a dragon. I was watching the Jmods on stream and someone asked if dragonbane weapons worked against it and they looked at each other like it never crossed their minds. After they said “it will now”.

@popmoock1122 Ай бұрын

I would love to see a weekly market analysis, this is so helpful with the changes and seeing the price impacts due to those changes!

@zacharymichael9718 14 күн бұрын

He used to do that. Probably stopped because it wasn't worth the time and it was usually only one or two items that fluctuated.

@ignasdaugela1780 Ай бұрын

I know this is kinda random but I used to do alot of zulra back in the day before some of the nerfs to drop table. So I had bought like 1500 zulandra teleports for around 150-200 each (cuz they were that cheap back then) and once my membership ran out I just stoped playing RS for couple years. Imagine how happy I was once I logged back in into my account after those years and went to kill zulra, only to notice that my teleports who were worth 150-200 gp back then are now worth 20k each.

@matthewperkins1334 Ай бұрын

the cheapest theyve ever been were 6k ea according to the tracker?

@ignasdaugela1780 Ай бұрын

@@matthewperkins1334 Because traker only goes back to 2017. In 2015 pre nerf zulrah would drop 50 teleports per drop, no one would even pick it up to save inv space. After 1st nerf still in 2015, they droped 20 at the time. They had some value after that but still, traded at 150-200 gp ea. Only after 2nd nerf where they reduced drop rate from 20 to 1 did they sky rocket. Only in 2017 when they buffed rate from 1 to 4 did theyr drop to 6k. If they cost 6k ea with 4 per drop, imagine how much they cost with 20 or 50 per drop.

@Iog0ut 25 күн бұрын

Bonds are more expensive because bot farms are growing. Thats it, the end.

@Jakanato Ай бұрын

Inflation is truly everywhere. Can't even avoid it in my games

@Minecraftian17 Ай бұрын

Steam regional price changes hit Argentina and other regions at the end of november 2023, it goes up a bit prior but Ill be honest that was one of the main reasons. Alternate region pricing for bonds was approx 2$usd per bond in those regions. since the change they now use USD currency and as such are now the same cost. Loads of people connected osrs accounts to alt region steams for cheap membership and cheap bonds

@MrJoosebawkz Ай бұрын

damn i was trying to figure out how people were buying bonds for foreign prices but now its too late :(

@ShiaLaBaggins Ай бұрын

It's not too late. I won't give away the secret exactly, but there are 2 countries you can use on Nord VPN in the $5 range per bond. Ignore Turkey because Lira is hard to get and Brazil because you need a CPF which is also difficult to get

@15justt Ай бұрын

@@ShiaLaBaggins $5 per bond? Assuming you actually mean bond (2 week membership) that's not far off from normal pricing

@MrJoosebawkz Ай бұрын

@@ShiaLaBaggins appreciate it, i wont ask for the countries but I have two questions if you're willing to answer. 1. Do you do this through steam or just their browser bond purchases 2. What are the "easy" ways to get foreign currency? That seemed to be the problem I had, I could get the browser to think I'm in a foreign country but I only know how to pay with USD which would get the browser to switch to US prices once I filled in my payment info. even if you only give me a topic to research myself it'd help

@JoeyP946 26 күн бұрын

It's starting to piss me off how much membership costs.

@joer9675 Ай бұрын

They got mad about good pvmers were able to basically play free. They want more of your money. Also alot of power creep updates. They want more of your money.

@e_eyster Ай бұрын

Low level seeds also did some odd stuff. Onion and Cactus went up 5-10x for some reason

@nightmare348 Ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if soon enough, they end up being a hundred million, like RS3 is.

@carlooo00s Ай бұрын

THE RICH GET RICHER ! HEDGE WITH OSRS GP!

@NinjaBob777 Ай бұрын

The May 23rd update changed the Fever Spider drops from Rune Helm/Battleaxe to Adamant Helm/Battleaxe. Water Battlestaffs have also been changed to limpwurts roots. Checked the OSRS Fever Spider wiki as I was watching.

@SnowyTrees Ай бұрын

They are 130m in rs3 shits rough

@SpottedHares Ай бұрын

I’m just really tired of Jadex doing this, they will throw a bag of sledgehammers at a problem when it comes to buffing the pve drops. But then they take their time removing one grain of sand at a time when it comes to the tidal wave of gold in the game. It was nice that 07scape didn’t have this problem when it launched, but now where back where we stared. I do t expect them to do much, just try and remove the problem one grain of sand at a time.

@staryskies Ай бұрын

love the videos,may i ask if your still working on the flipping to max?its been months since last episode

@IVIUT3D 23 күн бұрын

osrs needs a proper gold sink

@dilliondantin Ай бұрын

In the ad, you said "while your subscription is active" under your breath. Don't do that, home boy. You're better than that

@plinketharry7469 Ай бұрын

KZfaq has just become television again with the censorship and complete lack of morals with advertising:(

@devinwalters8808 Ай бұрын

This whole video is misinformed and incorrect. It may even have the opposite intended effect since homie doesn't do his research, and apparently lies for money

@flailingweasel8541 Ай бұрын

It was at the same volume as everything else homie you tripping

@user-gg2qn1ig5i Ай бұрын

How dumb do you have to be to think that an online food delivering service is going to ship you dessert for the rest of your life because you made one purchase with them? Of course you would have to keep their subscription active.

@robertseptim3579 Ай бұрын

It's because botters hide their money by putting it into bond form. So this means less bonds for the rest of us which causes the price to skyrocket

@LegendaryCollektor Ай бұрын

an interesting idea

@hardup9809 Ай бұрын

Yea but it's not like it's a finite resource it's a literal line of code an infinite supply

@devinwalters8808 Ай бұрын

No it's because the bonds work for osrs and rs3, so its tied to both economies, rs3 has horrible inflation and its causing osrs to follow suit

@superwolf591 16 күн бұрын

@@hardup9809 Bonds are only sold on the ge by players, a bond must be purchased, there is a finite amount of bonds. Honestly what is happening is low supply of bonds and the demand is the same or has gone up since I bet more players are active recently due to big game updates.

@tommylucatiel7911 Ай бұрын

oh god we're back in the hello fresh era it seems

@lukeblazek3462 Ай бұрын

Didnt notice how much my BGS dropped in price while i was staring at the fang price for weeks

@DarthChosen Ай бұрын

the bonds in osrs are tied to rs3 bonds as well, rs3 bonds hit 135m recently. the max cash stack was already changed in rs3 to cmb items over max cash as well we got the ge tax in rs3 too.

@kingfallen Ай бұрын

135m!!! is that a typo!?

@DarthChosen Ай бұрын

@@kingfallen nope

@Didodido66 Ай бұрын

@@kingfallenosrs gold is about 10x times more valuable than rs3 gold so it makes sense

@kingfallen Ай бұрын

@@Didodido66 "valuable"

@kingfallen Ай бұрын

@@Didodido66 lol. Right on. That's wild to me.

@BloodReaper95 Ай бұрын

The boss coming in Varlamore part 2 has been confirmed draconic for a bit now. It originally wasn't, but they changed that.

@theflyingdutchmannl Ай бұрын

Bond prices are like cigarette prices these days😂

@deeezey_2239 Ай бұрын

Since toa and dt2 many of us have made billions upon billions The game is absolutely overloaded with gold and it keeps increasing The mad thing is bond prices go up while gold gets dirt cheap The systems gonna sort itself out at this rate because gold just won't be worth selling Even if people buy billions the influx of sellers because of these money makers and such ( many leviathan bots 10k kc ) each of them has printed 2-4billion alone

@Atomiicstarr Ай бұрын

man cant math

@Mulyse 17 күн бұрын

I'm sure the OSRS team could fix/raise the max cash issue, which they'll probably need to at some point. They already did this on RS3 with an invisible workaround so it's definitely possible. RS3 max cash now is 2,147,483,649,147,483,647 or 2.147 quintillion

@Haf-A-Devon Ай бұрын

I started playing osrs earlier last year, and I got my first bond for 6.5m and it wasn't very hard for me, took a break for a couple months because I was a little burned out and they haven't dropped below 10m since. Unless I can learn an actually decent money maker I might not be able to keep doing my bondscape grind sadly. I really wanted to keep this account f2p since osrs is such a beautiful f2p model compared to all the other garbage these days

@duenorth4535 Ай бұрын

what site are you using to see this?

@hootie017 Ай бұрын

The main people buying bonds are bot farms, it’s the only thing that makes sense to me. Jagex needs bot farms for their profits and frankly it seems we do too for some things. Everyone complained when the price of Prayer pots and Sharks went up because no one wants to do that many farm runs and 76 fishing is a very high bar for an item you need a dozen of before you do any combat task.

@Burnttoaster1111 Ай бұрын

There needs to be long-term safe investment option to hedge against gp inflation, like some Misthalin treasury bonds.

@InTernal_Fox Ай бұрын

Or Jagex could stop artificially inflating prices on end game gear? Just a thought.

@ponytoast1231 Ай бұрын

How are they artificially inflating them?

@InTernal_Fox 28 күн бұрын

@@ponytoast1231 the G.E. tax is used to buy items off the G.E. and delete them from the game entirely, artificially keeping the prices up.

@ponytoast1231 28 күн бұрын

@@InTernal_Fox I haven't played Runescape in more than a decades and was just recommended this video so I have no clue about what is actually happening in the game, but isn't the tax on the gold ? Wouldn't it be deflationary by taking gold out of the game which would decrease prices?

@InTernal_Fox 27 күн бұрын

@@ponytoast1231 the G.E. tax is 1% of the total buyers gold spent and the sellers gold received. Jagex themselves have openly stated that it’s used to remove high-end items from the game to artificially increase the value.

@ponytoast1231 27 күн бұрын

@@InTernal_Fox I still fail to see how that remove the item, it remove the gold. I also googled it and Jagex said it was meant to remove gold from the game because there is too much of it as I thought. It should help decrease the price but not the items. Unless people are refusing to sell for lower prices because of price anchoring with them waiting for prices to pick back up but with a new gold sink the price can't pick back up.

@ahuman3040 Ай бұрын

Noob here. I've been doing my part to feed the hungry market Bank rolling my adventures through RuneScape. Plex, err Bonds are very useful.

@scene24man Ай бұрын

As someone who is keeping membership by buying bonds so I don’t have to spend real money it hurts, and it’s making me think about just not playing.

@ryn448 Ай бұрын

How you have your graphic setup in game to look that way? I’m very interested in that style in the game. It looks fantastic!

@arrondaly Ай бұрын

Also where I live in Australia, the cost of living is so high atm that people will be buying bonds over affording membership

@101kc Ай бұрын

I feel ya on that one. over the past 3 years inflation has gone up lik 40% in Brisbane. wages haven't....

@GhostLyricist Ай бұрын

How do you know if Jagex isn't artificially increasing the price of the bonds on GE?

@user-jc3pl3de8b Ай бұрын

Fever spiders definitely didn't help with the bond prices lmao 😂

@dilliondantin Ай бұрын

In the ad, you said "while your subscription is active" under your breath. Don't do that home boy. You're better than that

@LidlRaccoon Ай бұрын

I've been calling it "void-walker" this whole time.

@Jarrodcooke Ай бұрын

Take a look at Dragon Bolts and the unfeathered version. Likely nex bots bringing them in given Torva at a low now too. Fletching is a good skill to train if you want to bank on bolts recovering!

@movie2bLoved Ай бұрын

What i wanna know is, why rune prices have crashed to almost half value in the last month 🕵️

@FrenchViking466 Ай бұрын

It's to force paid membership on people..

@eddief1111 14 күн бұрын

i wonder how much this inflation is affecting the Venezuelan economy

@Jo_Rogan Ай бұрын

i wish they would add some monster similar to green drags so its actual materials instead of just more alchables

@stratfender89 Ай бұрын

So, OSRS is written in Java, and the value for max cash is the maximum value allowed for the int primitive. Jagex needs to rewrite the coin class so it is a long primitive. This shouldn't cause the need to rewrite a lot of the codebase since Java automatically widens values from int to long. Anyhoo, good video. Thanks

@SpottedHares Ай бұрын

Theirs a very big difference between wealth injection and gold injections. For example runes and bones and herbs can become gold for the player that obtained them, but their worth gold they don’t directly become gold. On the other hand, dragon hide armors, addy gear, these don’t really do anything but become gold adding to the economy. Jadex really really needs to not just add some real gold sinks, but need to really lay off those alckables and find some way to get player to transfer items for wealth not for direct gold.

@noahmanc2 Ай бұрын

the dragonbane weapons were confirmed on a follow up stream to work on the boss, they jumped up 10m in the literal minutes following them confirming it lol

@ben.dc5s Ай бұрын

max cash limit is set for a reason. its the highest integer that can be set using 32 bit platform.

@k9wiREless 27 күн бұрын

there needs to be a free-to-play boss that has a bond drop

@Jbeans11 Ай бұрын

whats the song at 11:11?

@Demilak Ай бұрын

Got a fang drop yesterday, after GE tax I received under 15m. And the only place I've found the glaives to be useful is in scaled CoX for Olm Head. Certainly felt like I got value out of it in a 5+4. I couldn't name you a second place to use it, though. I use it on on a few other bosses in CoX (it's not terrible on momma muta) since I'm bringing it anyway, but that's more for memes than actual benefit. I really hope they buff that item because it does feel cool to use.

@Rhoney716 Ай бұрын

When I quite rs3 I just bought bonds cuz I knew I would use the members for OSRS, they were 20m at the time. Crazy now.

@EngageTV Ай бұрын

FINALLY I been waiting on this video

@specul0 15 күн бұрын

Makes it much harder for f2p players to get the bonds they want.

@NikiK57 Күн бұрын

Here I am just now thinking about diving back into OSRS a bit... Saw the bond price - yeah, i'm not currently interested in paying for sub...

@ToucanDivineQuest 6 күн бұрын

Came back after a long break to try and get one, was expecting a 6-7m price tag but this surprised me 😅

@xanlosgames6270 15 күн бұрын

Ill be taking a break from osrs until this mess is sorted, Ive been putting off things that I need to do anyways

@Jack-xf2pr Ай бұрын

I've found the profit from dailies like farm runs, bird runs, etc have also gone up so maintaining a bond isn't quite that different than when it was 6m Easily 20m bonds end of the year imo

@sk8rdman Ай бұрын

What's wrong with the Tonalztics of ralos? It's your best spec weapon on bosses that you can't melee, like Kree, Leviathan, and Olm (head). Imo it's worth having for those sorts of bosses.

@JaymanHNS Ай бұрын

Compare this to the PLEX from Eve Online. If I recall, they had the same moonshot increase year over year

@X2yt Ай бұрын

At this rate, by the end of the year, membership will be unsustainable without nolifing raids. Like, literaly. like 4 years ago I bought a year's worth of membership for two of my accounts for like 150mil total. 2 months ago I've spent 200m+ on a single account. It's literally insane.

@hawkotf3524 Ай бұрын

Get a job

@Never_Lucky47 Ай бұрын

@@hawkotf3524had to sell it for a bond bud

@VornameNachname-hi8or Ай бұрын

I seriously don't get why people buy bonds... I have to work like 2 hours in my job for my yearly subscription, why waste digital money I have to grind 10x more for on that?

@Latinblood59 Ай бұрын

Job, unless you’re not old enough to work is the best way. Even if you have a $15/hr job, that’s nearly 28M per hour assuming bonds are at 14M each.

@15justt Ай бұрын

@@Latinblood59 There are many factors. The job argument makes no sense. I play runescape for fun in my free time, why would I pay for it with money I >actually< worked for? For now it's still easy to sustain bond, but with the rising prices I don't know... Plus not everybody lives in the US, in Europe it's 11€ which is 1 to 2 hours of actual work

@mikel1062 Ай бұрын

Gold is massively inflated in osrs. And with nature runes under 100gp it's only going to get worse.

@sheridanhart-tk1ld Ай бұрын

You know it’s messed up when you can buy GP from 3rd party websites and buy bonds cheaper then using your bank card to buy membership 😅 10M is $1.50

@dilliondantin Ай бұрын

I called it back in January: bonds will be 15m by June And the reason for my hypothesis: rev bots Yes yes yes, zombie pirates, people being scared to rwt gp, raids shitting out alchs.. but no, single handedly, rev bots literally injecting trillions of raw GP into the game is the #1 reason for this.

@slayer100141 Ай бұрын

It's more that there is no significant item/gold sinks to take items and gold out of the economy. More and more gets added but close to nothing is being removed. It is fine to have these great drop tables but without the sinks to counter act the drop tables you will get massive inflation.

@Viperconn44 Ай бұрын

not sure about other items but i thought of the bond value increasing as an indicator of demand. the game keeps breaking player count records (from a combination of real players and bots). maybe it's a mix of increase in demand + gold rapidly entering the game? i guess only jagex would know for certain.

@KingTemplarDragon Ай бұрын

Rs3 bonds have skyrocketed as well.

@Sayef_Li Ай бұрын

How's that tax cutting working for Jagex?

@EddieSlams 19 күн бұрын

It's sad really, I was going to try and get into runescape due to watching a lot of Settled, and play f2p to grind for a bond, but after seeing how expensive the bonds are, I was kind of put-off, I don't want to spend real money on a bond if I'm not going to enjoy the game.

@iWillAvert 20 күн бұрын

Someone clue me in - are they not burning the gp taken from GE fees? If they are, they need to bump the fees because it clearly isn't enough. If not, then that's at least a start.

@josh865 Ай бұрын

Everyone thought i was a fool when i bought 20 bonds before i took my break. They were 3 mil ea then and I overpaid

@BigRurn Ай бұрын

watched a stream on the group boss from the old school channel, they've confirmed they boss will now be a dragon.

@Brunoscaramuzzi 18 күн бұрын

I believe the biggest source of gold in the game is High alch. It produces so much gold to the game and is a training method that everyone uses. If Jagex wants to fix this I would change it to produce gold bars instead of gold coins. High alch an item to an item instead of pure gold.

@Aperson439 Ай бұрын

Wouldnt an easy solution to the max cash limit be to code the ge to accept plat tokens?

@UnknownVir 17 күн бұрын

Bond will likely reach it's crest this summer, the bubble also burst so hard no one bought a bond during a six hour period before it crashed under 11m before swinging back up to 12-13 now

@thegamedevcave Ай бұрын

i just rejoined osrs a few months ago, so i am nowhere near even thinking about what max cash stack size is. but hearing it's 2,1B and that this is a problem is kind of insane to me. because this feels like something the devs have seen coming for a while now right? and upgrading that max cash stack to a higher (honestly unobtainable) number wouldn't be THAT much work I have to assume... unless OSRS code is an insane mess... I have to imagine the limit is because money is being stored in a 32 bit value, upgrading that to a 64 bit value should honestly be a matter of a few lines of code (assuming their code is a messy nightmare, a bit more but still probably managable)... at which point the max value of a stack would jump up to 18.446.744.073.709.551.615 (which is 18 quintillion).. So i have to imagine them not upgrading max stack size has more to do with them wanting to fight this inflation in different ways than any development related reasons honestly.

@ivermectindealer Ай бұрын

Not just a few lines of code, they'd need to do a database migration

@cabeirwin1565 Ай бұрын

fangs gonna get a buff, im calling it.

@alexandreduhaime8622 Ай бұрын

0:33 The graph at the bottom looks like a piano 🎹

@sylvariatzaka Ай бұрын

(it was confirmed the new group boss would be weak to dragonbane on the twitch livestream q and a.)

@yaazarai Ай бұрын

Why not just allow using plat tokens on the GE?

@razorn6247 Ай бұрын

Plat tokens at the LVL 90 sailing pirate GE? 💡👀

@KelsOwned Ай бұрын

This needs to happen tbh

@biggiesmalls7939 Ай бұрын

Watching you talk about bonds being super expensive made me buy 5 bonds with irl cash for the first time ever to get GP in osrs lol

@xConstipatedPandax 28 күн бұрын

I did this. I value my time, why grind when I can pay the company.

@The_Real_Uncle_Ruckus 21 күн бұрын

@xConstipatedPandax why support a company when they are ruining the game, or at least allowing their game to be ruined. I see the same bots for weeks at a time. Jamflex doesn't give af, they just want your money

@biggiesmalls7939 20 күн бұрын

@@The_Real_Uncle_Ruckus You realize by people paying a company, they then have the liquid to fix issues within it, right? And OSRS being "ruined" is entirely subjective, that sucks you think the game is ruined, but 95% of the active player base would say the game has gone in nothing but a positive direction.

@The_Real_Uncle_Ruckus 20 күн бұрын

@biggiesmalls7939 lol. You actually think they'll fix the bot problem if they have money for it? How come they've always been a MASSIVE issue then?🤔 Also, where are you getting this "95%" from? From my experience, I'd bet half the player base is bots. Drink more of the kool-aid and give them more of your money and see if that fixes it. 👏🏻👍🏻🐑