Why Are Evangelicals Becoming Catholic and Orthodox?

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Matt Whitman

Matt Whitman

25 күн бұрын

I'm most excited about how many people are becoming Christians for the first time right now, but I'm also curious as to why so many Christians are changing affiliations within Christianity right now as well. In this video I talk with Redeemed Zoomer and Keith Foskey about that.
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Redeemed Zoomer: / @redeemedzoomer6053
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@Daniel_Abraham1099
@Daniel_Abraham1099 22 күн бұрын
Raised pentecostal, became Catholic Easter 2023. Best decision of my Life. Praise Jesus!
@g.h.baugus3168
@g.h.baugus3168 19 күн бұрын
Out of curiosity, what type of Pentecostal?
@Daniel_Abraham1099
@Daniel_Abraham1099 17 күн бұрын
@@g.h.baugus3168 Church of God TN
@D.S.-lf9dy
@D.S.-lf9dy 22 күн бұрын
This conversation went from "why they're leaving" to "why they're wrong to leave" in record time.
@fosterduncan7
@fosterduncan7 22 күн бұрын
Well, we knew this would be biased. There’s not one orthodox or Catholic in the conversation.
@frankie1376
@frankie1376 23 күн бұрын
protestant my entire life, about a year ago started bible in a year with FR. Mike Schmitz. Asked "why do Catholics believe what they believe" found Trent Horn, Jimmy Akin at Catholic answers. Learned about historical documents and early church fathers which finally convinced me at least 70% which is enough to seek out a priest. Found an FSSP Latin community/priest, began catechesis under him and got confirmed Easter 2024! Best decision and experience ever! Since then I've experienced incredible increases in many areas in my life. personal miracles if you will. Things I never thought possible. I can finally say i am truly on the road to Sainthood here in the Church. Confession and communion are POWERFUL gifts from God that I never had as a protestant and am so grateful that God chose me to be able to receive them when I could have easily stayed blind to it. Praise GOD!
@mattcaruso2520
@mattcaruso2520 23 күн бұрын
Personal miracles! That’s what happened to me as well and I couldn’t deny it. It was Holy as well. I started to hate sin and my heart changed. It was amazing. I am using your term! Love it. Welcome home.
@marklamoreaux6932
@marklamoreaux6932 23 күн бұрын
Deo Gratias
@Johannes3006
@Johannes3006 23 күн бұрын
Deo Gratias!
@darthbanana7
@darthbanana7 23 күн бұрын
Church of Rome posits a false gospel. Repent for your harlotry
@DavidCraig-hd1rj
@DavidCraig-hd1rj 23 күн бұрын
Amen! Beautiful testimony brother. Thank you for sharing. I’m sure you’ve had some evangelical friends express their “concerns” during your journey. I found that once I openly shared my journey into liturgy with my mega-church friends and family the response was concerns about my salvation. 5 years later I’m stronger and firmer in my faith than ever before and praise God for His grace and mercy in leading me to the more historical, liturgical truth. Keep the faith, stay strong!
@nathanieldrain907
@nathanieldrain907 23 күн бұрын
Redeemed zoomer is acting like people wake up and say "I'm Catholic now." Every convert I know, myself included, went through a serious discernment process (mine took years actually), not to mention that the fact that RCIA is required for new entrants is a guardrail against that.
@JohnBloggart
@JohnBloggart 22 күн бұрын
Yeah, thats what I was thinking. It’s true there are many more young men at my church (EO) but all of them either went through a long discernment or are still going through it. You can’t just call your self Eastern Orthodox or Roman Catholic, you have to actually become a member of the church. It’s not just an online thing.
@JohnBloggart
@JohnBloggart 22 күн бұрын
Also, just to add in a conversation I don’t really see how I they can have a serious discussion while lumping Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism in the same boat. I don’t think it shows a good understanding of apostolic faiths.
@Robert-ie8eb
@Robert-ie8eb 21 күн бұрын
Agreed, it took me 6 years of serious study, prayer, and fasting.
@caleb116
@caleb116 21 күн бұрын
Yeah, I was surprised when I noticed that this conversation didn't include an actual convert. Seems like redeemed zoomed is criticizing "Internet orthodoxy" etc. My priest and others in the Orthodox community have criticized the same! That's not a fair representation of this movement in general.
@julienyberg6119
@julienyberg6119 21 күн бұрын
Protestant to Catholic requires time and intense study. Converts to Catholicism have become more knowledgeable. Catholic to non-denominational doesn’t require anything. It’s for those who have found Catholicism too hard or just never understood it. It’s like dropping out.
@tr1084
@tr1084 23 күн бұрын
I'm a millenial (32), raised Baptist, and became Catholic seemingly right before this trend apparently started. It wasn't for ideological reasons. I just studied the history of the biblical canon which lead to broader church history, which lead to sacramental theology and apostolic ecclesiology. I really didn't want to become Catholic because of biases I was raised with, so I seriously considered Orthodoxy and visited liturgies and made friends with good priests and laity. After a few years of uncomfortable fence sitting I relented and became Catholic, right in the middle of 2020. Now I'm on parish council and have a little Catholic family of my own lol. Anyways, that's my reason. I still greatly value the low church tradition I was raised in and the love of Christ and scripture it gave me.
@bluecomb5376
@bluecomb5376 22 күн бұрын
Praise God for your journey!
@Jerome616
@Jerome616 21 күн бұрын
I really don’t understand the notion that people are just “following a trend” to join RC or Othodox church. The common theme amongst converts is : “please God don’t let me become Catholic!” People are entering the church even against their inclinations! Because they truly trust God to guide them into all truth.
@tr1084
@tr1084 21 күн бұрын
@@Jerome616 Sorry. I didn't mean trend as in fad. I just meant it's become a common pattern online to the point that people have noticed and videos like this are being made. That wasn't yet the case when I was wandering into Greek liturgies in 2015.
@Jerome616
@Jerome616 21 күн бұрын
@@tr1084 to be clear, I was responding to the charge in the video that this was due to a trend. I liked and appreciated your post!
@knowthywalk8908
@knowthywalk8908 18 күн бұрын
Enjoy worshipping Mary and dead people.
@susalkasarahi
@susalkasarahi 23 күн бұрын
People are tired of evangelical motivation speaker Ted talks without any substance sermons and for some reason they are resonating with the tradition and history of RC and EO churches
@psynurse
@psynurse 23 күн бұрын
So they are running to a false religion? I think this was foretold. Religion that elevates Mary as deity and pray to idols (saints)
@secondson1186
@secondson1186 23 күн бұрын
@@psynurseyour assuming it’s a false church which non of these guys stated, what makes them false from a independent church Protestant view my friend?
@ninjason57
@ninjason57 23 күн бұрын
@@psynurse funny, they think the same of evangelicals. Whose perspective is truth? Only God knows.
@bradyhayes7911
@bradyhayes7911 23 күн бұрын
@@psynurse I don't think the "Great Apostasy" is when a percentage of Protestants rejoin the oldest, largest Churches. We ARE seeing a Great Apostasy, but it's the rise of secular progressivism and the decline of Christianity in the West - Those becoming Catholic/Orthodox are doing so, in part, to more fully oppose secularism and get back to the historical roots of Christianity.
@Liquidity_Hunter
@Liquidity_Hunter 23 күн бұрын
@@psynursehow can orthodoxy in example be false when it was founded in first century during apostoles. Read didakhe. They are still holding on to all their apostolic traditions
@rfp313
@rfp313 22 күн бұрын
As a Catholic, I think you're misrepresenting confession. "The priest does the heavy lifting" is incorrect. First, confessing our sins, as is COMMANDED in James, is not an option, Biblically speaking. Then there's John 20, where Jesus gave the apostles the power to forgive sins. Then there's the power to "bind and loose" sins, also given by Jesus to the apostles. Through confession I have been able to break habitual sins. It doesn't mean that I stopped being tempted by those sins. I have helped conquer those sins and get them under control. So it is a fantastic gift. Now, let's talk the logistics of it. Confession is not optional. It is a command in scripture. So how do we implement it effectively? Well, there is a Methodist pastor who converted who shared how he wrestled with this. He saw that Catholics implemented a system that was private, would provide pastor's guidance, and would avoid some pitfalls of the things he was thinking about. He said that if he went for a group setting, you could easily have disagreement over what is a sin or what isn't. But a system where people could come to him and he could keep it private and provide guidance was ideal and he realized that this is exactly what Catholics had put in place. A practicing Catholic doesn't see confession as a "get out of jail free" card. It is tough. It take humility to go in and verbalize how you failed God. The priest acts as a vessel. The confession is made to Jesus, not Father X. But here's the one big thing you guys aren't discussing that is THE reason to be Catholic/Orthodox: the Eucharist. We don't go to church on Sunday to be entertained. We don't go because we can't wait to hear what the sermon of Father X is going to be. We don't go for the music. We go to receive Jesus in the resurrected form in the mass. We go to unite with the Church Militant (here on Earth), and the Church Triumphant, which are the saints in heaven. When I go to mass I am united with the saints in heaven, who are celebrating that very mass at my side (as is illustrated in Revelation). No smoke and light show or great preaching will ever compare to that. There is reverence in our worship while the evangelical churches focus on entertainment and smoke and light shows with a very shallow theology. I remember going to a "non-denominational" service and it was a rock show with preaching and I left feeling totally shallow. I'm not a convert, I was just exploring at that time. You guys made some very good points, but Protestantism started splitting from itself the moment it came into reality. Catholics consider Orthodox to be in communion with Rome, though schismatic. And there are Orthodox traditions that are in full communion with Rome.
@francanarsie
@francanarsie 23 күн бұрын
I grew up a United Methodist, believing in choir specials and covered dishes. In high school I had a profound spiritual experience that my Methodist pastor could not help me with and was completely lost. I became Catholic, later I became a priest, and was so happy that the Lord led me to a place that I found I could have faith in real spiritual experiences. I met the Lord in the Methodist Church but really came to believe in His awesome love for us as a Catholic.
@snufkin4568
@snufkin4568 13 күн бұрын
You mind shedding some light on this experience you had? Thank you sir!
@ohdarlin14
@ohdarlin14 22 күн бұрын
I was raised agnostic by my Muslim mother and Baptist father and became an evangelical non-denom protestant in 2020. I was baptized in the Orthodox Church in March of 2024. Glory to Jesus Christ!
@juliedemarchi8767
@juliedemarchi8767 22 күн бұрын
Glory forever
@DRiceArizona
@DRiceArizona 15 күн бұрын
I have been investigating since 2019. Finally became a catechumen last December and will probably be bartized on September 1. ☦
@OrthodoxDevelopment
@OrthodoxDevelopment 10 күн бұрын
@@DRiceArizona God bless. Stay repentant. Stay Strong!
@highoctanehummus6564
@highoctanehummus6564 23 күн бұрын
I was raised evangelical. Now orthodox for 5 years. Glory to God☦️
@HannahClapham
@HannahClapham 23 күн бұрын
@highoctanehummus6564. I was raised Mormon. Now Sufi Muslim for 5 years. Woo-hoo! God is great! 🕌
@CamGaylor
@CamGaylor 23 күн бұрын
@@HannahClapham so you were pagan and you are still pagan
@adolphCat
@adolphCat 23 күн бұрын
Do you find the time you spent in the Evangelical Faith to have helped you and even prepared you to become Orthodox? I am a former Roman Catholic and I do not find the time, I spent in Roman Catholicism to have been a waste, I had many good Teachers that set me on the right track. Do you have the same judgment concerning your days as an Evangelical do you believe that you are a better Orthodoxs Practioner because of the Teachers you came across in your Evangelical years?
@angelbonilla4243
@angelbonilla4243 23 күн бұрын
@@HannahClapham , tell me a little more about it.
@HannahClapham
@HannahClapham 23 күн бұрын
@@angelbonilla4243. Sorry. I was being facetious. Why would anyone care what you were raised or what you became…without any context? I was a used car salesman, but then I became an investment banker. I was a social democrat, but then I became libertarian.
@elijeremiah1058
@elijeremiah1058 23 күн бұрын
I was raised evangelical and I converted to Catholicism in 2015. I’ve never felt closer to Christ.
@carlosrincon1551
@carlosrincon1551 22 күн бұрын
Welcome home!
@poesia-com-cafeina
@poesia-com-cafeina 22 күн бұрын
That's awesome bro I'm In OCIA rn, can't wait for first communion 🙏
@tylerkessler4021
@tylerkessler4021 22 күн бұрын
Amen to that
@alissarehmert2502
@alissarehmert2502 21 күн бұрын
Me too. I always thought I was close to Christ before, but my love for Him has grown 100x over since I have converted.
@tylerkessler4021
@tylerkessler4021 21 күн бұрын
@@alissarehmert2502 Amen Sister !🕊️❤️
@andrewscotteames4718
@andrewscotteames4718 23 күн бұрын
For me, it was because I decided to honestly engage with what the Catholic Church teaches with an open mind. I wasn’t looking to accept or disprove, just understand. And I was blown away. It was so much deeper than anything I had learned as a Protestant. And it was not the cartoonish “unbiblical” church evangelical preachers had made it out to be. I felt like I had been lied to about Catholicism my entire life…
@tylerkessler4021
@tylerkessler4021 23 күн бұрын
I just got confirmed into the Catholic Church today! On the feast of Corpus Christi too!🕊️❤️ feeling beyond blessed
@keeperofthedomus7654
@keeperofthedomus7654 23 күн бұрын
Congratulations!
@chacob3380
@chacob3380 23 күн бұрын
Welcome home Tyler!
@Rose19695
@Rose19695 23 күн бұрын
Congratulations! Welcome home!
@tylerkessler4021
@tylerkessler4021 23 күн бұрын
@@keeperofthedomus7654 thank you so much! God bless you! 🕊️
@tylerkessler4021
@tylerkessler4021 23 күн бұрын
@@chacob3380 thank you !!🕊️
@chairofpeter832
@chairofpeter832 23 күн бұрын
Matt, I really appreciate your empathy and compassion for the "other" - you speak about people from other Christian perspectives in a way that affirms their dignity. I really admire and respect that!
@bikesrcool_1958
@bikesrcool_1958 23 күн бұрын
I’m becoming Catholic, I was always a Protestant. I got tired of the bands and non denom churches, and the just feel good about Jesus theology. I want the church that has stood the ages, I feel I can glorify Jesus the best in the Catholic Church.
@aadschram5877
@aadschram5877 23 күн бұрын
Well said!
@chrisr348
@chrisr348 23 күн бұрын
Hi Brother/sister in Christ. You’re right. As a lifelong Catholic I have visited several non denominations church and honestly I love their fervor and admiration of our lord. But it all still boils down to our love and respect for the sacraments especially the sacrament of Eucharist. Once a person truly understand the point behind the Eucharist, it’s presence and our commitment to reconciliation which makes us truly truly hate sin and move away from it to a process of sanctification in our daily life, life changes. It’s almost like a born again process and the Eucharist keeps us inline sort of like a highway to heaven. Peace be with you.
@user-of1hd2dy1t
@user-of1hd2dy1t 23 күн бұрын
​@chrisr348 Newsflash: The Catholic Eucharist is NOT "Holy" at all.. especially since it's given out by a Church that's "Accursed", "Anathematized" and "Eternally Condemned" by it's preaching of "Another Gospel"..as well as..4,000 (and counting) First Degree Felon Catholic Priests..who became Defiled..when they had their hands down the pants of 330,000 Children when the got caught RAPING AND SEXUALLY ASSAULTING them.. possibly weeks, days or even hours..before handing out the Eucharist..which made the Eucharist Desecrated..and UNHOLY!
@kelslo74
@kelslo74 23 күн бұрын
I can understand your switch and as I respect *some* of what the Roman Church teaches,I have many Catholics who I love deeply,but, there's too much in traditional dogma that I refuse and could not take part in with good conscience.
@NicoleWilliams-pk9jr
@NicoleWilliams-pk9jr 23 күн бұрын
I was raised in the SBC, I broke with that a few years ago and now attend an ACNA (Anglican) church with a traditional liturgical service.
@Goodtogo4567
@Goodtogo4567 18 күн бұрын
Maybe Protestants are becoming Catholic because they came to recognize Him in the breaking of the Bread.
@MrSeedi76
@MrSeedi76 14 күн бұрын
Maybe protestants become catholic because they don't want to think for themselves anymore.
@llla_german_ewoklll6413
@llla_german_ewoklll6413 2 күн бұрын
I see what you did there my bible loving friend ;)
@PhilomenaSK
@PhilomenaSK 19 күн бұрын
As someone who used to be Protestant and is now Catholic I would like to answer the question about what draws people to it. There are so many reasons to believe in Catholicism but what really drew me in was reading early Christian writings and recognizing the Catholic Church and Catholic teachings in them, and the fact that the Church acts like a Mother hen that gathers Her chicks under Her wings. She guides us and teaches us in such a clear way!
@KnoxEmDown
@KnoxEmDown 23 күн бұрын
I'm yet another Baptist-to-Orthodox Christian convert, and the reason for my conversion is simply because Orthodoxy provides the theological depth and the practical tools of repentance that I've found necessary to attain my salvation. I have known far holier Christians than me who've thrived off crumbs of the Lord's Truth, but in my weakness, I need the entire loaf of Truth to not starve.
@zzzzz77771
@zzzzz77771 23 күн бұрын
So you belive that you have not already attained* your salvation?
@KnoxEmDown
@KnoxEmDown 23 күн бұрын
@@zzzzz77771 I am saved, I am being saved, I will be saved; this is the motto derived in part from Philippians 2, wherein salvation is worked out with fear and trembling. The Orthodox notion of salvation as I understand it is a process that lasts from the time you ask Christ to have mercy upon you, much like the thief on the cross, until God grants you the grace of theosis in Him. This process may be completed in life, or be finished after earthly death, according to His will. So, one is saved as soon as they repent and have faith in Christ as their Lord and Savior, but that salvific process continues. It doesn't stop there. Apologies for any misunderstandings in advance, Protestants and Orthodox often talk past each other when it comes to salvation.
@stevemcgee99
@stevemcgee99 23 күн бұрын
That’s a great way to put it.
@HannahClapham
@HannahClapham 23 күн бұрын
@@KnoxEmDown. Clear enough, I suppose, but you’re not really offering a distinction from Protestant soteriology. I can easily say that I am saved, that I am being saved, and that I will be saved. As Paul remarks in the third chapter of Philippians: “Not that I have already attained this…or that I have already been made perfect, but I press on…that I may lay hold of that for which I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus.” There is indeed a process to Protestant soteriology. As you probably know, we call it sanctification, but it is part and parcel of salvation. Where we differ is that we take it seriously when the writer of Hebrews declares Jesus to be the “author and FINISHER” of our faith. In Philippians 2, it not only says that we are to “work out our salvation with fear and trembling,” but that “it is God who is at work within us both to will and to do.” Providence is more than just a helping hand now and again. God is our strong ally who simply will not let us fail. You wouldn’t tell a good friend of yours, “We’re going to walk across this girder now, a thousand feet above the ground. I’m used to it. I’ve walked these girders every working day for twenty years or so. I’m not likely to fall. If you feel yourself getting shaky. Put out your hand, and I’ll set you straight. But if you slip and fall without putting out your hand, that’s on you. If you fall, you fall.” That’s NOT a savior! It’s merely a helpmeet. Maybe life is easy for you. All you need is an assistant. It’s not that easy for me. I need a strong and steady protector! One who will not let me go.
@DeSalvo511
@DeSalvo511 23 күн бұрын
@@HannahClapham love this response!
@acekoala457
@acekoala457 23 күн бұрын
I became Orthodox because no one could square what we were being taught with a method of Living. I was slandered, ridiculed and belittled constantly for my desire for any sort of Doctrinal Unity by both Pastors and people in my Evangelical Church. I spent 3 years "Seeking", some of that coincided with the Coof, and eventually I decided that once I could attend Church again I would join LCMS or WELS. I ran away from home and fell in with not so great people. I started attending Liturgy at a Greek Parish and realized I could never go back. One thing Evangelical Protestantism gave me was a deep love for Scripture and becoming Orthodox completed that Love.
@farmeryaeg
@farmeryaeg 23 күн бұрын
Redeemed Zoomer was not the best person to interview and ask questions such as "why are young people turning to the Orthodox (or Catholic) church?" His answers were uncharitable and came from the perspective of an upset outsider looking in. Outside of those questions this was an interesting conversation
@Camalamadingdon
@Camalamadingdon 23 күн бұрын
Agreed. Very much snark with little substance behind his claims
@austinpissey8789
@austinpissey8789 23 күн бұрын
Ever since his discussion with Jay Dyer where he was confronted by a former Calvanist with deep knowledge on Calvin's theology and the subsequent angry discord messages from Zoomer were leaked, he's been resentful and openly uncharitable towards the EO position. All we can do is pray that he becomes illumined and his heart softens.
@IoannesVI
@IoannesVI 23 күн бұрын
I've run into him in other comment sections and he is just like you say. He is blind because of his pride.
@genieboots4269
@genieboots4269 23 күн бұрын
Can't have an opinion on it if you haven't even had genuine conversation with RC and EO
@mamaliamalak7825
@mamaliamalak7825 23 күн бұрын
@@austinpissey8789 Yah, it all started with his video on why Orthodox views were wrong, without even bothering to even try to understand what the Orthodox even think. Sadly it escalated in that conversation Jay Dyer. He basically started a theological fight with people who understood his position, but he didn't understand theirs. And then got upset when he got the short end of the stick. Granted, Kyle and Dyer didn't behave the best and failed to take the high road, but it seemed like they were matching what he was putting out from the start. At least, that was my read of what happened.
@HodgePodgeVids1
@HodgePodgeVids1 22 күн бұрын
I became Catholic in 2022, but my journey started in 2018. I jumped around churches, Baptist, Methodist, nondenominational, etc, but none of them felt right. Add the slow slip into Liberalism and continued fracture of Protestantism, I say the Papacy and Magisterium as a authoritative voice guiding the Church. Adding the support from the Early Church Fathers and rich philosophical and theological traditions, the Catholic Church just makes sense.
@MrSeedi76
@MrSeedi76 12 күн бұрын
The catholic church is the one who continously fractures. Ever heard of "old catholics"? Only because they claim that the remaining rest is catholic can they retain the illusion of more unity.
@jonathanstensberg
@jonathanstensberg 21 күн бұрын
Lutheran-to-Catholic convert, class of 2017. It’s simple: once you realize that sola scriptura is anti-biblical, sola fide is anti-biblical, and sola gatia is a false dichotomy, there’s really nothing left of theoretical Protestantism to salvage. And then once you look at history and realize the early church was so clearly more similar to modern RC and EO Churches, that there’s a clear line of logical apostolic succession and theological development, that most of history is either left out of history-according-to-Protestantism or a gross mischaracterization of the truth, that most Protestant practices are alien to historical Christianity, there isn’t was of practical Protestantism left to salvage either. At some point, you just realize that you have to be RC or EO; Protestantism is simply indefensible.
@MrSeedi76
@MrSeedi76 12 күн бұрын
So you mean, once you are convinced by catholic lies? Sola fide is in the Bible! Better read it.
@publichearing8536
@publichearing8536 10 күн бұрын
yeah, the ancient churches constantly morphed to appeal to the world and totally had a succession of kings that ruled from -antioch- rome, just like the book that was written 400 years later asserts. They also used subversion and quasi-mercantilism in the form of military orders to dismantle their ideological opponents.
@lawdog22
@lawdog22 23 күн бұрын
As a side note on confession, yes confession feels very satisfying but that is not just because you can get a sense of absolution on something that was bothering you, but a large aspect to the fulfilling nature of confession is the humility it requires. It is relatively easy to confess your sins to God, he already knows you sinned, he knew you were gonna sin before you even did it! Not to say you shouldn't repent your sins to God, but what is "humanly" difficult is to humble yourself and exercise true contrition enough to confess your sins to another person who doesn't already know what you did. That is not an "easy" thing to do. And getting yourself to do that feels fulfilling.
@emmap1159
@emmap1159 23 күн бұрын
Exactly right. It's not supposed to be easy.
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 22 күн бұрын
it's one thing to confess your sins to God silently in your head. It's quite something else to say them out loud in the presence of another person. Those sins feel really REAL and as quietly as you speak them, they sound really loud. You face your sin in a very real way and it is impactful. When scripture tells us to confess our sins to one another, it's a powerful thing. The absolution actually helps us to forgive ourselves and fully accept the forgiveness God gives us.
@marlam8625
@marlam8625 22 күн бұрын
I’ve heard Mother Angelica say that it only makes sense that we confess our sin using our physical senses since it’s through them that we commit sin. We kneel, we speak, we hear and then hopefully by Gods grace, we see a bit more clearly upon leaving.
@erinross5553
@erinross5553 15 күн бұрын
Amen to that! And what a beautiful and healing experience it is too. The church is the hospital, we are the wounded and we reveal our wounds to the doctors, our priests
@jambangoni
@jambangoni 23 күн бұрын
I was an anti-Catholic Calvinist for a long time. Very thankful to have converted to Catholicism about a year ago after a couple years of studying the early church and hearing Catholic side of things
@soteriology400
@soteriology400 22 күн бұрын
Do you see any discrepancies or problems with church history?
@SpodgeDanish
@SpodgeDanish 22 күн бұрын
@@soteriology400 no
@rfp313
@rfp313 22 күн бұрын
@@soteriology400 of course there are problems. We've had bad popes, bishops, monarchs, etc. But the Church endures. It's teachings endure. Nobody is Catholic because of those folks. They're Catholic in spite of them because it is THE Church that was established by Jesus and it's members will be imperfect. The Bride, however, is perfect.
@VersaPC
@VersaPC 21 күн бұрын
@jambangoni congrats! You came from one of the most anti-catholic baskin robins ice cream flavors. John MacArthur haveth not love, just hate. So sad.
@jambangoni
@jambangoni 21 күн бұрын
@@soteriology400 I’m sure. I don’t know exactly what you mean by problems or discrepancies.. in doctrine?
@notarobot2161
@notarobot2161 23 күн бұрын
I and my husband, now priest and long-time catechist, became Orthodox 25 years ago along with many other Protestant converts, into a convert church. This is not a new trend. It’s just that Protestants are now noticing. The influx we’re seeing now is not necessarily a net growth, as many since covid have also left Christianity. As you said, Tradition and apostolic succession are surely reasons, but if I had to say, from the hundreds of catechumens we’ve encountered over the years, you’ve really underestimated the draw to the Sacraments (excepting Matt’s mention of the benefits of Confession). Partaking of the Mystery of Communion is certainly the number one reason anyone becomes Orthodox. When one becomes Orthodox, one begins to understand it as the height of our Union with Christ, a way he provided for us that’s beyond our understanding but so necessary. This is the best tool for Christian growth, not to mention all the other disciplines in our Tradition. When we become Christians, yes, we are saved, but we still sin. That makes us sick. The Church is a hospital and we need its medicine. Simply put, I think it has better, tangible tools for living the Christian life. This is the number one reason we see from countless converts over many years. I think this is largely overlooked by Protestant commentators because they just don’t understand how this could be the case, IMO.
@Dwooswa
@Dwooswa 23 күн бұрын
Raised nondenominational, now a TLM-loving Catholic. Praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ!
@lanestp
@lanestp 23 күн бұрын
I think what’s missing from this discussion is that if you are convinced that Christianity is true, then the most important thing is the Eucharist. As a lifelong Protestant, soon to be received into the Orthodox Church, I knew that the treatment of the “Lords Supper” was not in keeping with early Christianity. There is an incredible continuity between the Orthodox practice and Biblical Judaism. The centrality of the sacrifice, the priests, liturgy. It all represents an unbroken chain that, once experienced and taken seriously is completely absent elsewhere and is totally convincing, at least for me!
@DoctorDewgong
@DoctorDewgong 23 күн бұрын
Did they really not talk about the Eucharist?? Protestantism: the belief that God is capable of creating the universe but not capable of becoming present in bread
@aquavitae3824
@aquavitae3824 23 күн бұрын
Important topic
@t.d6379
@t.d6379 23 күн бұрын
Same for me as a Catholic. So sad that Protestants wouldn't even be considered Christian in the first three centuries plus.
@airpodman1259
@airpodman1259 23 күн бұрын
The Eucharist was what started my research. Which then leads to historic continuity and apostolic succession. Not the mention the formation of the canon. Those are like nails in the coffin.
@sanskritprayers
@sanskritprayers 23 күн бұрын
The most important thing is Jesus and the nature of our relationship to Him. Further, He stated the greatest commandment is to love God with all you are, the second being to love your fellow man as yourself. We don't emphasize these things enough and often don't fully grasp that our understandings of many things else are necessarily often incomplete (see 1 Corinthians 13, which addresses these concepts) and may not be fully understood until one day we go home to be with Jesus. I might wish that we as Christians were not at times so proud, so discriminating in non-central details among ourselves. We separate into denominations and that is probably unavoidable, if only because people want to associate with others of similar conviction, but I just wish we were more supportive of each other in growth with Jesus among the denominations and let Him leas and guide and bring teaching to us.
@scarletstevens
@scarletstevens 21 күн бұрын
I became a Protestant at age 11. I’m now 33 and converted to orthodoxy last summer.. was baptized this past May as well as my husband and four children! ☦️☦️☦️
@FourEyedFrenchman
@FourEyedFrenchman 20 күн бұрын
I was raised Baptist and have been Catholic for three years now. The more I studied historical and traditional Christianity, the less sense Protestantism made. My first Mass completely blew my mind, it was so alien from the four white walls, worship bands, a TV with hymn lyrics on it, and a 45-minute rambling chloroform-in-speech sermon about three verses of scripture that I grew up knowing as Christianity. I found Catholicism (and by extension, Orthodoxy) to be the most authentic and worthwhile expression of Christianity that would guide me to grow closer to Christ. I didn't convert to get in on a fad or do the edgy based thing, and the Church has safeguards in place (RCIA/OCIA) to prevent insincere converts from coming in. In short, what I seek I couldn't find in any expression of Protestantism.
@Echo-cx2gk
@Echo-cx2gk 23 күн бұрын
The thing about Catholicism (I don’t know about Eastern Orthodoxy) is that you can’t “identify” as Catholic whenever you feel like it. You have to go through the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults (RCIA), which is basically a rite of Bible study, community service, and constant reaffirmation of your faith. It’s a long process, but you will be sure of your faith, and you’ll learn to keep what is sacred, sacred. It's not a costume you can take off when you feel like it.
@aadschram5877
@aadschram5877 23 күн бұрын
G.K. Chesterton: "The difficulty of explaining “why I am a Catholic” is that there are ten thousand reasons all amounting to one reason: that Catholicism is true".
@KnoxEmDown
@KnoxEmDown 23 күн бұрын
Eastern Orthodox converts have an entire catechumenate (divine liturgies, catechism classes, life confession etc.) they must go through ranging from 6 months to 3 years depending on the circumstances. The usual catechumenate is about a year. The Orthodox want you to be certain of the holy commitment you're making, the cross you are choosing to bear. In regards to what constitutes catechism exactly, so many different saints have written their own catechisms (for example the Catechetical Lectures of St. Cyril of Jerusalem) that priests today can choose from a smorgasbord of excellent material. There are also excellent modern works, such as Metropolitan Hilarion Alfeyev's Orthodox Christianity 5-volume series. His works are huge and good to chew through. The Divine Liturgy itself when understood is the greatest part of catechesis, and the most important considering it is how we offer worship and bloodless sacrifice to God, communing with Him via His Body & Blood.
@Echo-cx2gk
@Echo-cx2gk 23 күн бұрын
@@KnoxEmDown ortho bro?
@KnoxEmDown
@KnoxEmDown 23 күн бұрын
@@Echo-cx2gk In the good sense of "Orthodox brother", yes. I don't have any social media besides youtube lol
@justjason7662
@justjason7662 23 күн бұрын
I do find catechism to be a good idea that some Protestant denominations do, but I think it should play a greater role. But I do notice that it is my Catholic brothers that seem to never know their Bible, while my Protestant brothers have it memorized. What good is the catechism if the laity don’t even know the word of God…
@TheologicalAmatuer
@TheologicalAmatuer 23 күн бұрын
Southern Baptist seminary grad and pastor, confirmed into the Catholic Church 2 years ago.
@OrthodoxDevelopment
@OrthodoxDevelopment 10 күн бұрын
that's awesome! please take a look at fr paul truenback's video on orthodoxy and roman catholisicm, it is fascinating! God bless.
@Parmandur
@Parmandur 21 күн бұрын
I was raised Christian & Missionary Alliance (a Wesleyan Holiness Protestant tradition), became Catholic because of a mystical experience that was backed up by subsequent study.
@darlameeks
@darlameeks 23 күн бұрын
I became Catholic last year. The Holy Eucharist is the Source and Summit of my worship and faith. I never believed in Sola Fide, and I no longer believe in Sola Scriptura. I guess those are the main reasons. There is also the focus on Church history and the Church Fathers...I have so much to learn that we just didn't talk about in Protestantism.
@anastasijahrsak5751
@anastasijahrsak5751 23 күн бұрын
welcome home!
@zzzzz77771
@zzzzz77771 23 күн бұрын
Interesting. So you don't think the Scriptures are the only source of God's truth, so I assume you include the church in the totality of revealing God's church (in your case the RCC), so what do you do when the two conflict?... That's the origin of Sola Scriptura, it was born from the Catholic Churches diabolical behaviour during the Middle Ages , where they did whatever they liked because they didn't have a standard to be held to as they didn't hold to Sola Scriptura. How do you know, as a Catholic, that your church will not return to those ways?
@user-of1hd2dy1t
@user-of1hd2dy1t 23 күн бұрын
The Catholic Eucharist is NOT "Holy" at all.. especially since it's given out by a Church that's "Accursed", "Anathematized" and "Eternally Condemned" by it's preaching of "Another Gospel"..as well as..a lot of its Priests (4,000 and counting)..who became Defiled..when they had their hands down the pants of 330,000 Children (and counting) possibly weeks, days or even hours..before handing out the Eucharist..which made the Eucharist Desecrated..and UNHOLY!
@therhetoricalcatholic4664
@therhetoricalcatholic4664 18 күн бұрын
Yes. This. I converted because of the Eucharist, not because of TikTok.
@benwilliams3967
@benwilliams3967 19 күн бұрын
Baptist to Catholic and glad I left the American religion and came home to the universal church.
@EdgarRamG
@EdgarRamG 23 күн бұрын
For me it was Covid, almost died from pneumonia, i think I was miraculously healed, then was able to from one day to the next quit one of my bad addictions, i’m not even tempted anymore. Praying the Rosary, Confession, the Eucharist, and following the Calendar in the Catholic Church has been amazing. I’m more of a revert btw. But overall it just seems like there’s so much purpose now thanks be to our Lord and Savior.
@EdgarRamG
@EdgarRamG 23 күн бұрын
I do mean tenpted by that particular addiction, obviously all the others, still struggling with.
@LauraBeeDannon
@LauraBeeDannon 21 күн бұрын
God bless you on your journey. ❤
@jeremystrand7095
@jeremystrand7095 23 күн бұрын
Here's 11 honest reasons why I started to look into the Roman Catholic Church as a Non-denominational Christian and am still wresting through.... 1. Grieved by commercialism/"branding" of 'action-verb' Churches. 2. Grieved by 'Big Personality/Showmanship' Culture and the pride it fosters. 3. Grieved by doctrinal disunity on almost everything (soteriology, eschatology, communion, baptism, spiritual gifts, on and on and on. 4. Grieved by a culture of triumphalism. 5. Frustrated by the neglect of the meaning of objectively beautiful art and music vs KLove. 6. Grieved by the business model of church. 7. Grieved by cheap communion (a tic tac wafer and a plastic thimble of Welch's grape juice). 7. Having thoughts like, "Is this it...?" 8. The frustration/bewilderment of such low 'success' in my narrow evangelical Christianity that assumed Catholics/Orthodox are wholesale unsaved but yet comprise of the majority of believers presently and obviously historically. 9. Evangelistic/Charismatic "Holy Spirit Russian Roulette" in public and realizing that the Sacraments are Holy Spirit bound in a consistent/predictable way by faith. 10. Realizing that many protestant doctrines.beliefs are new (dispensationalism/cessationism/calvinism, symbolic communion, rapture, etc) and not found in the Church for 1500 years. 11. Catholics/Orthodox aren't Calvinist and have never been. . . . Then I've realized so many things I love happen to be of Catholic origin/influence/inspiration....we as protestants are eating the fruit but neglecting the tree its from. 1. Frank Capra's "Its A Wonderful Life" 2. The Passion of the Christ 3. Jonathan Roumie of 'The Chosen' 4. J.R.R. Tolkien and 'The Lord of the Rings' 5. Rich Mullins desiring to receive the Eucharist and his Franciscan Vow of Poverty shortly before his untimely death 6. Christ's-Mass on December 25th 7. Christmas Carols 8. Culture of Chivalry 9. Christendom 10. Enya 11. G.K. Chesterton . . . Then you have to deal MAJOR 'wrenches' in the protestant system.... 1. Tammy Peterson (Jordan Peterson's wife) gets miraculously healed through praying the Rosary and wearing the Scapular. Do we just write it off? Just 'demonic healing'? 2. Fatima. Just didn't happen? It was demonic? 3. Marian Apparition "Our Lady of Guadalupe" during the Prot Reformation/Western Schism. Again, just demonic? I could go on...but there you go.
@joeschatz6069
@joeschatz6069 23 күн бұрын
This is a solid list. I would really like to continue the conversation sometime. Unsure the best way to proceed, but I am a catechist in the Catholic Church and a lay spiritual director. Let’s find a way to connect. God Bless 🙏
@jeremystrand7095
@jeremystrand7095 23 күн бұрын
@@joeschatz6069 Thank you. Just emailed ya. Bless you!
@richardkozak8895
@richardkozak8895 23 күн бұрын
Thank you very much. This gives me quite a it to ponder.
@LauraBeeDannon
@LauraBeeDannon 21 күн бұрын
If tou have the Hallow app ot has great music on it. It's my favorite part after Bible in a Year.
@DM-sj9xd
@DM-sj9xd 14 күн бұрын
To pick just one item on your list, if you look deeply into Our Lady of Guadalupe, you will be awed by all the evidence that this had to be of God. The only other option is that it is a conspiracy…but that overused word “conspiracy” still fails to explain the miraculous nature of this apparition. And if this image is somehow a painting made by hand (which it is not), it would be the greatest painting in the world, surpassing the Mona Lisa, etc. To have the greatest painting in the history of the world painted as part of a conspiracy is ridiculous. No painter could have painted this, there are too many details that are beyond human imagination and ability.
@mccra9480
@mccra9480 17 күн бұрын
Unity is why outsiders find truth in the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. It is also the church where Christ is literally present with us in the Eucharist. Anywhere you go in all corners of the world, there are catholic churches, and all together, we are one body and one mind, with Christ as our head, and the pope as His vicar on earth. The Lord Jesus Christ's prayer to the Father ‭John 17:22-23 "I have given them the glory you gave me, so that they may be one, as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may be brought to perfection as one, that the world may know that you sent me, and that you loved them even as you loved me." Romans 15:6 "So that with one mind and one voice you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ" Christ remains in the Catholic church because we are the church that eats His flesh and drinks His blood in the Eucharist. The Lord Jesus Christ said, ‭John 6:56 "Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him."
@grossepointemichigan
@grossepointemichigan 17 күн бұрын
Amen!
@VloggingCastles
@VloggingCastles 23 күн бұрын
Im mormon to babptist to orthodox. Orthodxy feels like home, its calling me to work harder and be better to fight my passions. Its a spirtual battlefield im called to be a soldier for christ. The depth and the saints in orthdoxy are amazing guides and examples for us to follow
@randomjake1488
@randomjake1488 23 күн бұрын
God Bless you for the conversion, I hope you will grow in your faith.
@obiwankenobi6871
@obiwankenobi6871 22 күн бұрын
Welcome home friend 🎉☦️ Christos ANESTI!
@joelbecker5389
@joelbecker5389 23 күн бұрын
I'm a millenial evangelical, graduated from a Bible college with a background in the Restoration movement, and will soon get my master's from another Restoration Movement university. My interest in Orthodoxy started at the beginning of last year, when God confronted me with some grave sins of mine that I had not been dealing with. As I searched for hope and felt condemned, Protestant preachers/teachers would say things like, "After the study I've done, this is what I believe this Scripture passage means." An Orthodox priest I started listening to came more from a perspective of "This is what the Church teaches (and has historically taught)." And as I dove into learning about Orthodoxy, leaning into some of their practices, and occasionally attending the liturgies, I found the Orthodox Church to have answers to so many issues I have had with my Protestant background for years (e.g., non-sacramentalism, offering "Communion" for individuals who want it in a prayer room on the Sundays it isn't taken corporately). So in a nutshell, for me it comes down to authority and worship. The Orthodox Church has seemed to me to have the authority and worship that the Church is supposed to have. But I'm still seeking and learning. May God guide me and my family.
@francismarion6400
@francismarion6400 23 күн бұрын
You aren't being convicted because you don't know the law. Pray God opens your heart or he will leave you to your sins.
@joelbecker5389
@joelbecker5389 23 күн бұрын
@@francismarion6400 What am I not being convicted of? I'm not sure how your comment relates to mine.
@francismarion6400
@francismarion6400 23 күн бұрын
@@joelbecker5389 Your "grave sins".
@joelbecker5389
@joelbecker5389 23 күн бұрын
@@francismarion6400 Hmm. Well, I stated that I WAS, in fact, convicted. That's what I meant by God confronting me with it. I wasn't caught in sins by others, but rather I came to a place of deep guilt, shame, panic attacks, and despair over my sins. I believe God used this to bring me to repentance. He convicted me deeply and forced me to face these sins, confess to a handful of people, and seek to begin a process of healing. I'm sorry if my original comment wasn't clear on that.
@francismarion6400
@francismarion6400 23 күн бұрын
@joelbecker5389 So who do you call Lord?
@crassustheelder9665
@crassustheelder9665 23 күн бұрын
I grew up nondenominational, but my grandmother is Methodist. Once I started driving I decided to go to the Methodist church. My wife is Catholic and we would go to each others churches. Over the past few years I’ve watched demagogues take over most Protestant faiths for the sole purpose of politics. Something finally clicked for me that made me realize the importance of our ancient rituals and so I’ve shifted to the RC and EO camp.
@MrSeedi76
@MrSeedi76 23 күн бұрын
And during this journey you missed the fact that a lot of the Christian nationalism BS comes from catholics?
@lalagordo
@lalagordo 21 күн бұрын
I've never heard so much talking about going back to what's important while actually ignoring going back to what's important
@Rose19695
@Rose19695 23 күн бұрын
Bible is ready at every Mass so that's on the Evangelicals who said they did not get the Bible as a Catholic. They did not pay attention.
@kevinrossi3557
@kevinrossi3557 23 күн бұрын
I think part of it is that we had Catholic’s put more into other areas of faith and aren’t outright encouraged to read and study Sacred Scripture. For cradle Catholics that normally is just some in school and possibly in the home depending on family approach. Not a whole mess of churches in my area have say a Bible study group. I know too that the folks that go to that sort of thing are the ones that come across as thinking they became the Magesterium.
@elijeremiah1058
@elijeremiah1058 23 күн бұрын
Exactly. I’m so sick of hearing that trash.
@DoctorDewgong
@DoctorDewgong 23 күн бұрын
Almost every word of the Mass is directly from Scripture too. Seriously. Look it up
@readyplayer1900
@readyplayer1900 23 күн бұрын
The Old Testament, the New Testament, AND a selection from the Gospels are read at every mass.
@t.d6379
@t.d6379 23 күн бұрын
Facts. The whole bible is read over the time of a few years. The whole world reads the bible together completely.
@obiwankenobi6871
@obiwankenobi6871 23 күн бұрын
I’m was a American Evangelical now a Eastern Orthodox Christian ☦️ Christos ANESTI 🎉
@totalityofscripture1001
@totalityofscripture1001 23 күн бұрын
Truly He is Risen!! ROCOR convert last year ☦️
@FDCNC
@FDCNC 23 күн бұрын
Alēthōs Anëstē ☦
@ByzantineCalvinist
@ByzantineCalvinist 23 күн бұрын
Αληθώς Ανέστη!
@miastupid7911
@miastupid7911 23 күн бұрын
Αληθως Ανεστη Ο Κυριος
@lisainpalmdesert
@lisainpalmdesert 23 күн бұрын
Christos Anesti!🙏🏻
@jl4018
@jl4018 23 күн бұрын
For me I had never heard of the real presence in the Eucharist growing up and it is something I have yet to find a convincing argument against now. That is the main appeal to me at this moment.
@davidazua
@davidazua 23 күн бұрын
I pray you look up Carlo Acutis: The First Millennial Saint.
@felixcharles9773
@felixcharles9773 23 күн бұрын
Lutheranism retains the real presence in the Eucharist as well, it’s not a position foreign to historic Protestant theology
@arlenefisher1164
@arlenefisher1164 23 күн бұрын
I left Mormonism as a teenager and became Catholic. Eventually, (hippie era) dabbled in New Age, then became Evangelical. Now, I find myself really wanting to receive the Eucharist. Loved listening to Francis Chan and his journey. Where will I go and stay now?? I am older now... Had a discussion with a friend recently and he too is feeling drawn to the Catholic Church but for now remaining Evangelical.
@jmbm75
@jmbm75 23 күн бұрын
And this food is called among us Eucharistia [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh. -First Apology, 66 Justin Martyr 🙏✝️
@KennyBare
@KennyBare 23 күн бұрын
The best argument is your own eyes. You look at a piece of bread. Not the creator of the universe. No amount of proof texting will convince me that a priest can turn a piece of bread into God.
@troyhavok8605
@troyhavok8605 20 күн бұрын
The modern, materialistic world has wounded many. The Orthodox Church teaches that salvation is healing and this is what I have experience since my conversion from atheism. I have healed and transformed so much since diving into the Church that my sister barely recognizes me. Orthodoxy, to me, has offered me the deep meaning that my life was lacking and through the church I have begun to know the Living God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob Who has been working to return Adam to paradise since the fall. By becoming a part of His life, I have already begun to experience the Resurrection. To put it simply, I converted to Orthodoxy because Christ is there and it is to Him that the Holy Spirit led me.
@JT.Pilgrim
@JT.Pilgrim 23 күн бұрын
Well said Matt. Appreciative Canadian Catholic.
@Obilisk18
@Obilisk18 23 күн бұрын
The discussion in the middle about continuity is fascinating. I kinda feel like Matt sorta misses the force of Redeemed Zoomer's point. I became Catholic at Easter, after spending the first 37 years of my life bouncing between nominally non-denom (though usually baptist) churches and, while I think there's something to the idea that conversion's partly happen because people were bored in a previous tradition they never really understood, that just elides the continuity question. I still attend a lovely reformed non-denom church. And the passionate pastor cites post-reformation thinkers about 20 times as often as pre-reformation figures. And if you exclude Augustine, you could count the citations, in the past 5 years, on 1 hand and still have enough fingers to catch a ball. That's an actual lack of continuity, not an imagined one. It'd be one thing to say, "we want to focus on the Bible alone" and then really just focus on the Bible alone. But functionally, everywhere I've been, other authorities are mustered in sermons to emphasize a particular theological argument and, if none of those authorities are from the early church, no wonder people think these arguments are not connected to the Christian tradition. I also think Matt makes an excellent point around the 34 min mark which I'd make a little differently. His point is, basically, "you can be a Catholic and not be that into it and that's ok, for awhile". From the convert's perspective, the point would be, "I like that my perception of my faith life isn't so down to how I happen to be feeling emotionally". If you're not experiencing the spirit working it's easy, within certain forms of Protestantism, to wonder if he is. The rhythms of the calendar and concrete sacraments level some of the highs and lows inherent to faith.
@totalityofscripture1001
@totalityofscripture1001 23 күн бұрын
Former Protestant to Orthodox here and you Matt played a part in it when you began touring the Orthodox Churches. Exposure to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church is what’s driving people to convert. We have realized that Protestantism cannot bring the fullness of the Faith.
@Gondor149
@Gondor149 23 күн бұрын
Pretty sure it's small "c" catholic in the Nicene creed to represent the universal church. People always capitalize the C to try to sneak in the institution known as the Roman Catholic Church.
@hendrikeinde6856
@hendrikeinde6856 23 күн бұрын
Started reading Joshua Schooping @Disillusioned@ Beware of dangerous ground
@totalityofscripture1001
@totalityofscripture1001 23 күн бұрын
@@Gondor149 the Orthodox Church is the Catholic Church just as we are True Israel. The Western schismatics are historically called Latins or Papists.
@miastupid7911
@miastupid7911 23 күн бұрын
@@Gondor149 where was Rome when the doctrines were canonized? What is the etymology of Catholic? Where is Nicea as in the Nicene Creed?
@UnworthySeraphim
@UnworthySeraphim 23 күн бұрын
As an additional former Protestant to Orthodox here, can confirm that Matt's videos with Fr Paul played a major role in really getting my conversion to Orthodoxy started. Glory to God and I pray Matt, RZ and all the rest follow suit!
@gregbradburn
@gregbradburn 16 күн бұрын
It's not necessary to speculate as to the reasons so many evangelicals are coming home to the Catholic church. There are countless testimonies of converts on The Coming Home Network, The Journey Home, etc. where they give detailed accounts of their journey. You will not find many (if any) saying it's because of beautiful buildings or traditional liturgy, etc. Most of them read/studied their way into it. For myself, I was born and raised baptist, spent 30 odd years in a non-denominational evangelical church where I was the worship leader (so I was all-in on contemporary worship) and about 15 years as a PCA Presbyterian. When my wife, who was born Catholic but joined me in the Baptist church when she turned 18, returned to the Catholic church about 5 years ago I was alarmed. I of course made all the standard anti-Catholic arguments. But over time, as I dug more-and-more into what the Catholic church actually teaches (as opposed to what I'd been told all my life from Protestant churches) I was forced to realize that the man-made doctrines (like Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide) were not only unbiblical but simply crumbled under academic rigor. So I finally stopped protesting and was confirmed into the Catholic Church at the Easter vigil this year. Soli Deo Gloria!
@grossepointemichigan
@grossepointemichigan 15 күн бұрын
Awesome testimony!
@larryf4180
@larryf4180 23 күн бұрын
funny story, I am a (former) Evangelical in the process of becoming Catholic. One of the people who's content pushed me away from Evangelical non-denom Christianity is Redeemed Zoomer. I know he wants to lead people to Mainline Protestant churches, but my research journey led me home to Rome. I'll expand a little bit, I did the denomination hopping and studying, but I actually did study. I read Concordia and Studied the 39 Articles of Faith, read works of the Church Fathers, and attended a variety of Churches for a little while. My initial dive into Catholicism wasn't intellectual, but rather spiritual. I attended a Mass and had a profound feeling of awe and fear that I had never experienced towards the Eucharist. Once I had that experience I dove into Catholic Apologetics and have attended every Sunday since and will be in R.C.I.A. this summer to officially join the Church family.
@jeremystrand7095
@jeremystrand7095 23 күн бұрын
It is surprising how a Christian could say "wow, Presbyterianism is truly the best wholistic truthful expression of Christianity." It feels like you either have to go wholesale Evangelical...or Ecumenical....or Roman Catholic/Orthodox. But picking a mainline Prot Denomination after Rome had major reforms in the 1500s seems intellectually dishonest. Like, what exactly are we as protestants protesting anymore in regard to Luther's protest?
@erinross5553
@erinross5553 15 күн бұрын
Praise God! I'm praying for you in your continued discernment and RCIA process
@wartimemodels
@wartimemodels 23 күн бұрын
Raised Presbyterian. Been orthodox for 23 years now. The depth of the faith continues to unfold as I move through life.
@duluthkris
@duluthkris 23 күн бұрын
Important to note that you can't just "become Catholic" after watching social media. New potential converts have to take months of classes before being brought into full communion. It can never be a spur of the moment uninformed decision ultimately.
@b.r.holmes6365
@b.r.holmes6365 23 күн бұрын
Same for Orthodoxy
@dallasbrat81
@dallasbrat81 23 күн бұрын
Your man made classes are known about
@HOSPlTALLER
@HOSPlTALLER 23 күн бұрын
@@dallasbrat81 Not a great comment, genuine apostolic Churches have always started new Christians as neophytes/novices, right back to the beginning of the Church. If you don't know the reason for this, its easily researched.
@dallasbrat81
@dallasbrat81 23 күн бұрын
@@HOSPlTALLER cool I’ll keep listening to God and you can follow your man made dogma. I’ve studied orthodox for years and I like most of it except you’re insisting on idol worship as mandatory is a no for me . I’m a ACTS 2 Christians and I model worship like the first 2 Centuries. Your icon worship along with Mary is much later in history. Also your post apostolic church’s are nothing like the actual apostles. No orthodox Bishop doing miracles . Just normal followers with a chip of superiority which God will take care of His way
@dallasbrat81
@dallasbrat81 23 күн бұрын
@@HOSPlTALLER show me in Bible where Paul wrote about Mary and Icons please. Go pray to Mary to help
@alexbartschi602
@alexbartschi602 23 күн бұрын
Your channel introduced me to orthodoxy, glory to God!
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 23 күн бұрын
RZ not going to be happy to see this comment, but welcome to the Apostolic faith!
@alexbartschi602
@alexbartschi602 23 күн бұрын
@@alisterrebelo9013 Thank you, I'm glad to be here
@mcisanta
@mcisanta 22 күн бұрын
Welcome home 🕊🙏🏻☦️
@rolfwagner601
@rolfwagner601 23 күн бұрын
Was raised evangelical, wife was also evangelical . . . in our 40s we became Roman Catholic after reading the Early Church Fathers.
@empackmanmueller1725
@empackmanmueller1725 22 күн бұрын
Welcome home may our blessed lord bless you abundantly, and continue finding the treasures of the Catholic church. May our beloved mother pray for you. I recommend keith nester books for you!
@MyMinistrees4All
@MyMinistrees4All 22 күн бұрын
Didn’t you find it fascinating the level of antisemitism exerted by the church fathers?
@rfp313
@rfp313 22 күн бұрын
@@MyMinistrees4All um, I think that's a terrible accusation on what I've read from the Fathers. If you want to read some terrible antisemitism I'd look at Luther's writings.
@xaviercopeland2789
@xaviercopeland2789 22 күн бұрын
@@rfp313which one?
@rfp313
@rfp313 21 күн бұрын
@@xaviercopeland2789 I believe there is a letter from Luther titled,"On the Jews and Their Lies
@stormchaser9738
@stormchaser9738 23 күн бұрын
Im an evangelical to Catholic convert. Too many reasons to describe in a KZfaq comment, but the movement is definitely a thing. My wife, and two best friends are all evangelical to Catholic converts
@aadschram5877
@aadschram5877 23 күн бұрын
G.K. Chesterton: "The difficulty of explaining “why I am a Catholic” is that there are ten thousand reasons all amounting to one reason: that Catholicism is true".
@anastasijahrsak5751
@anastasijahrsak5751 23 күн бұрын
welcome home!
@KillerofGods
@KillerofGods 23 күн бұрын
Both the Orthodox parishes in my town are getting catechumens out of nowhere. The concert founded one has like fifteen inquirers at any given time.
@robertluechtefeld5017
@robertluechtefeld5017 16 күн бұрын
Well, if former Catholics turned Evangelical are suggesting they "never got the Bible as a Catholic", then either they just weren't going to Mass at all, or they weren't paying attention, OR most often the case is, they are not wanting to practice the Faith the way it is structured: "I don't need to confess my sins to a priest." or "My wife is a divorced woman, and refuses to get her former marriage anulled." Or, "My wife and I use artificial contraception and I don't want ten kids."etc. They know truth and reject it. The claim they don't get the Bible at Mass is a false claim. Three reading three year cycle on Sundays and two year cycle daily Mass. Almost the entire Bible.
@maxwellthesaladman6261
@maxwellthesaladman6261 20 күн бұрын
When I was coming back to Christ from several years of following the New Atheists, I took a fair look at most denominations (thanks largely to your videos Matt!), and what I found was that the only churches/denominations that were holding the line against modernism and seemed best able and willing to resist the influence of the modern "progressive" world all I found were Catholicism and Orthodoxy. After looking into it I was more convinced by the Catholic claims for Papal supremacy than the Orthodox arguments against it. That was enough for me to want to become Catholic. I don't know if Redeemed Zoomer cares as much about Apostolic Succession as some do, but I think he does this discussion a disservice by downplaying the influence and importance of it. I know that lots of young people LARP as Catholic and Orthodox online, but I also wouldn't overestimate that population in comparison to genuine converts to Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
@savagematti777
@savagematti777 15 күн бұрын
I grew up in the Presbyterian church. When I turned 29 I researched deeply into Christianity, theology, history etc and I now attend the Catholic Church. I stopped attending the protestant church every sunday when I turned 18 and for a decade would try to go to many different protestant denominations and got so SICK of the ted talk motivational feel good rock concert. It never felt like I was getting the fullness of the Christian faith. It drove me away from God and into gnosticism. Until I turned 29 and read the Bible and read the writings of the church fathers and saints and had to accept the fact protestantism is not found in the ancient church. I feel the fullness of the Christian faith in the Catholic church and the Eucharist truly heals my mind body and soul every week I take it now. Orthodox and Catholic churches is where you will find the fullness of Christianity. the Catholic mass is where I am truly worshipping God how He wants to be worshipped. Protestants need to humble themselves and GO BACK to how the early Christians practiced Christianity. Solas are not Biblical. Mary is the mother of God. Accept this. to be a student of history is to cease being protestant. Notice how yourcalvinist gentlement always refers back to “ME ME ME” “I I I” the absolute ARROGANCE. You are not the authority sir. All the degeneracy we see in western society today comes from the protestant reformation 500 years ago no coincidence.
@yb5515
@yb5515 23 күн бұрын
Should change the video title to 3 Protestants discuss Catholic conversions.
@juliedemarchi8767
@juliedemarchi8767 22 күн бұрын
Yup. A very annoying conversation. And rarely any women on these channels.
@annb9029
@annb9029 21 күн бұрын
I’m here
@FrannyMan
@FrannyMan 23 күн бұрын
Fascinating video. Thank you all for discussing this and uploading
@shanesolar3924
@shanesolar3924 23 күн бұрын
(Have not completed the video yet Matt) but for me in my conversion to Catholicism, in reading the early church fathers, and the Holy scripture thru the interpretation of them as well as the Church, my experience as an evangelical didn’t even seem Christian in comparison. And to those martyrs and evangelists who spread the word thru worse persecution than we’ll ever experience; they probably would not consider evangelicals Christians at all. Just some heresy they were in the process of combating. I initially leaned heavily orthodox but after 6 MORE months of research I found a home in the Catholic Church and was confirmed this past Easter. God bless you Matt, you were a friend along the way whether you know it or not and I pray for Gods protection over you and your family. I love you and your mission very much
@aadschram5877
@aadschram5877 23 күн бұрын
Well said bro!
@anastasijahrsak5751
@anastasijahrsak5751 23 күн бұрын
welcome home!
@shanesolar3924
@shanesolar3924 22 күн бұрын
@@anastasijahrsak5751 thank you brother!
@shanesolar3924
@shanesolar3924 22 күн бұрын
@@aadschram5877 thank you!!
@JHGSP
@JHGSP 23 күн бұрын
Your channel helped my conversion to Orthodoxy
@DaCaldwell
@DaCaldwell 23 күн бұрын
Same!
@dallasbrat81
@dallasbrat81 23 күн бұрын
Very sad , I looked at Orthodoxy and saw the errors.
@DaCaldwell
@DaCaldwell 23 күн бұрын
Me, a few of my friends, and my family.
@Ian_live
@Ian_live 23 күн бұрын
@@dallasbrat81 Keep on looking more
@KirstyE3
@KirstyE3 22 күн бұрын
Yay! Christ is risen.
@MrCneary
@MrCneary 22 күн бұрын
I really think Matt's characterisation of Catholicism about the 35 minute mark is way off. Life as a proper Catholic is way more difficult than protestant life, I have lived both ways. If you sin, you have to go and confess to that sin out loud in front of someone. If you get divorced, you must live celibately or forego the sacraments. Sunday Mass is an obligation, along with the feast days. I could go on and on.
@The_Cold_Dark_Skreetz
@The_Cold_Dark_Skreetz 14 күн бұрын
All this video did was show me why I should become Catholic or Orthodox. Thanks guys!
@tomgrimm9572
@tomgrimm9572 23 күн бұрын
I'm one of those "young men", age 29, and I was raised Baptist and still hold many Baptist beliefs, but I hunger for a richer and deeper high church form of worship. I'm drawn to Church history and many Orthodox ideas and theology, yet I'm apprehensive about joining the Ortho Church. I feel like a mix of both, and frankly it feels liberating yet lonely. Anyways, great video as always! Your channel is such a blessing!
@nemanjaurovicElna
@nemanjaurovicElna 23 күн бұрын
Redeemed Zoomer can learn so much from Matt. Matt is full of compassion, gentleness, and empathy. Redeemed Zoomer's smug approach, twisting of historical facts, and strawman arguments make him no different from ortho-bros and other zealots on the internet. Matt is more emotionally intelligent, and it shows. Great video :)
@aadschram5877
@aadschram5877 23 күн бұрын
Well said!
@echobase2000
@echobase2000 23 күн бұрын
Yeah his emotional IQ is lacking. Smug is a good word for it.
@jimmydavid1993
@jimmydavid1993 22 күн бұрын
he is just a kid in the bloc, lol
@albertito77
@albertito77 22 күн бұрын
I don't think that RZ came across like that atall
@melarrow6202
@melarrow6202 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, Matt is surprisingly objective. He might have good Catholic friends or he takes the trouble to understand.
@amandabradshaw1301
@amandabradshaw1301 16 күн бұрын
It’s not just wanting tradition and beautiful church aesthetics. It’s far, far deeper than that. However, I am glad to see this topic being discussed. A convert myself, my RCIA class was full of former evangelicals who yearned to be in the church Christ established, and we saw the glaring issues in the Protestant world. I’m curious as to why an evangelical Protestant convert to Orthodoxy or Catholicism wasn’t brought on. Seems like if you want to know why people are converting… talk to a convert. Also, Redeemed Zoomer comes off as very bitter and arrogant and was difficult to listen to.
@JoeyBag-of-donuts
@JoeyBag-of-donuts 16 күн бұрын
Hi Matt, I am a Catholic revert from non-belief. Thank you for your ongoing conversation. I have learned a lot about other Christian groups from your channel.
@DaCaldwell
@DaCaldwell 23 күн бұрын
Former Protestant, here. Al-Mashie qam! Christos anesti!
@miastupid7911
@miastupid7911 23 күн бұрын
Αληθως Ανεστη Ο Κυριος.
@notarobot2161
@notarobot2161 23 күн бұрын
Alithos Anesti!
@cactoidjim1477
@cactoidjim1477 23 күн бұрын
Alithos anesti!
@TheTransfiguredLife
@TheTransfiguredLife 23 күн бұрын
Alithos Anesti! ☦️
@dasspiegelbild
@dasspiegelbild 23 күн бұрын
Haqqan qam!
@Velakowitz
@Velakowitz 19 күн бұрын
I used to be evangelical and converted to Catholicism. Matt’s channel helped me on my journey 4-5 years ago. I think Redeemed zoomer is just caricaturing a lot of the banter involved in online theological debates. I’ve met many sincere people in their conversions. I would say most are sincere. Hes probably not the best person to represent this sphere. I have yet to meet a Catholic steep in church history and classical theology convert to evangelicalism.
@zomozuwa
@zomozuwa 8 күн бұрын
I am very thankful Jesus left us the Church. I was a devout Protestant who converted to Catholicism on Easter Vigil 2024. My pursuit for Christ is the pursuit of Truth. My prayer is always to be where Christ is, in fullness and to not believe in anything that is wrong (His Church cannot error on faith and morals). As a Protestant I did not have the Eucharist and we know what Jesus says about those who do not eat his body and drink his blood. Reading church history also showed me how Christians have worshiped in the Mass. I didn't have any connection to the early Church as a Protestant and I was truly robbed of the fullness of the faith as a Christian. Thanks be to God for His Holy Catholic Church. It seems incredibly dishonest to say the Protestant church existed in Acts 2 knowing that the teachings the Apostles handed down (and the earliest Church Fathers) are far different from both "historical" Protestantism and modern day Protestantism.
@gileswilliams3014
@gileswilliams3014 23 күн бұрын
I was baptised Anglican as a baby (I'm English), fell away from the church, and have just been received into the Catholic Church. For me, it's as Matt said. The utility of confession helps keep me on the straight and narrow very well! I also draw a link between confirmation and the laws about sick people going to see the priest to be 'deemed clean' in the Torah. (apologies if this is a tired justification. I came to it independently). Also. Comment for the algo!
@anastasijahrsak5751
@anastasijahrsak5751 23 күн бұрын
welcome home!
@gileswilliams3014
@gileswilliams3014 23 күн бұрын
@@anastasijahrsak5751 Thank you. I can't tell you how good it feels!
@MrPeach1
@MrPeach1 23 күн бұрын
did you mean confession? I do think confirmation is critical also but I think of confession as more a utltility sacrament
@gileswilliams3014
@gileswilliams3014 23 күн бұрын
@@MrPeach1 Yes. Meant confession. Will edit now. Thanks for pointing out.
@bluecomb5376
@bluecomb5376 22 күн бұрын
Praise God!
@albertito77
@albertito77 23 күн бұрын
I am one such former Evangelical Protestant. For me, I discovered that there was such a thing as a post NT early church that lasted until the 1500s. My Evangelical church just didn't want to hear my questions and weren't interested in providing answers. Catholicism won me by forfeit. I have been Catholic for a number of year but somethimes I wonder if I had met a knowledgeable high church Lutheran or Anglican pastor who could have given me the best case for Protestantism being in continuity with the church of the First Millenium as to whether I would have been able to remain within Protestantism. In short, reconcile that there was a church for 1500 years pre-Reformation and that God was in charge even them. Also the role of creeds and tradition-- confessional Protestants (I have now learned) give a lot of authority to these things even of scripture alone is technically infallible. Third, liturgical worship. You cannot find mega church style worship in the early church. It doesn't exist.
@MrSeedi76
@MrSeedi76 12 күн бұрын
The mega church stuff is a particular American thing. You won't find it in mainstream Protestantism. Over here, in Germany, the whole evangelical/Baptist/etc stuff is very fringe.
@albertito77
@albertito77 12 күн бұрын
@MrSeedi76 I didn't know there were still Christians in Germany
@sonnybrown4758
@sonnybrown4758 19 күн бұрын
Fancy churches aren't "the Tradition" we're talking about. Tradition is much much deeper and has to do with the Eucharist, which I feel no one in this conversation wants to touch. What is the Lord's Table? What does it mean for our lives? The Tradition preserves this.
@ZanethMedia
@ZanethMedia 21 күн бұрын
I was a passionate evangelical until 2023. I spent every waking minute investigating the Church and watching this channel and so many others to help navigate my questions. After talking to my pastor and going through RCIA, I was confirmed Catholic at the 2024 Easter Vigil. I’m so grateful for the Good things that I was given from that tradition, but I’m so much more thankful that I’m receiving all those things in their fullness as a Catholic. Praise God!!
@grossepointemichigan
@grossepointemichigan 15 күн бұрын
Amen and welcome home!
@ElizabethSantay
@ElizabethSantay 23 күн бұрын
Evangelical turned Catholic here 🙋🏼‍♀️
@mizzwright3976
@mizzwright3976 23 күн бұрын
Evangelicals are Protestants though...? lol
@grizzly_8917
@grizzly_8917 23 күн бұрын
you went from protestant to protestant.
@ElizabethSantay
@ElizabethSantay 23 күн бұрын
@@grizzly_8917 hahaha good catch
@anastasijahrsak5751
@anastasijahrsak5751 23 күн бұрын
welcome home!
@JP2GiannaT
@JP2GiannaT 23 күн бұрын
​@@grizzly_8917 both Orthodox and Catholic have valid apostolic succession. Protestants do not. Catholics and Orthodox are closer to one another than either are to Protestants, theologically and practically speaking. Also both the Pope and the Patriarch of Constantinople excommunicated each other. That's what started this mess. There was fault on both sides.
@PinoyPens
@PinoyPens 23 күн бұрын
I think you guys scratched the surface on a big reason that wasnt fleshed out. I'm an evangelical protestant. In protestant circles, having the right theology and beliefs is of great importance. Growing up and attending various protestant denominations and groups I have become so confused because there are so many differing views in the faith. Then theres so much fighting and wildly different beliefs that it gets so confusing for a normie like me. What I love about Catholics/Orthodox is that I dont need the trendy, intellectual pastor who has figured out the bible. The Catholic and Orthodox churches have rich tradition and a catechism. Ive reached a point in my life where I want to check my brain at the door while participate in a communal service with fellow believers with a church body that spreads to all the nations.
@rappmasterdugg6825
@rappmasterdugg6825 23 күн бұрын
You are correct. The odds of finding an individual pastor or even a group of people that has more knowledge about the Bible and Jesus's teachings than the Catholic Church or Orthodox Church is nil.
@MrSeedi76
@MrSeedi76 12 күн бұрын
I wonder why anyone thinks, needing a book thicker than the Bible (the catholic catechism) is less confusing than simply reading the Bible.
@PinoyPens
@PinoyPens 12 күн бұрын
@@MrSeedi76 I wish understanding and knowing the BIble was as simple as reading it. But it is not.
@rappmasterdugg6825
@rappmasterdugg6825 11 күн бұрын
@@MrSeedi76 The bible is a library of books, written in different style, by different authors, in different languages, and with various source versions that are not identical. The NT was written by first-century jews and hence much of what is written doesn't make sense to us today in meaning or context, and it heavily references the OT. The NT has many elements that are foreshadowed in the OT. It is very complex. The Catechism is a coherent summary of this library that pulls it all together.
@efs797
@efs797 20 күн бұрын
I fell away from Catholicism as a young man and went through a roughly 20 year journey through atheism, agnosticism, universalism, and what I observed in myself was a downward shopping-around spiral into whatever accommodated a progressively deeper self justification of things I just thought made sense to me or that I just wanted to do. Then life hit me like a train. And everything I thought I knew about life management didn't work. Strangely enough they weren't the most tragic things but they all hit me in my deepest held convictions of pride about myself. It was like tailor made disaster year for me. It wasn't until I restarted taking my heritage faith seriously and delving more deeply than ever into the prayers, novenas, and personal practices that the miracles started coming. And boy did they come. Im definitely home again and understand my interdynamic relationship with God better than ever. I might be bionic catholic if that ever becomes a thing. It was never about the persuasive arguments /exigesis but since Ive been back the biblical basis for all things Catholic has never clarified itself more strongly. Ive never had more to say about Catholic theology than now. I can't believe Id ever say this but Im kind of grateful for the chastisement Ive received, if only because of how Im being led out of it. God be praised! Christus vincit Christus regnat Christus imperat Ave Maria
@bradyhayes7911
@bradyhayes7911 23 күн бұрын
I can only speak for myself, but as a former Baptist/Nondenom, it was a million small data points converging. I had a profound experience with the Eucharist, had real success against lifelong sin struggles with the Rosary, read a few of the early Church Fathers and became convinced of Apostolic Succession, etc. One big thing, though, was coming to the conclusion (which I think is objectively true) that liberalism was a consequence of the Protestant Reformation. Locke proposed tolerance as a solution to the widespread religious wars resulting from a newly fractured Christendom. The Reformation was followed by a diminishing of the institutional Church's influence on public life, separation of Church and state, political revolutions and the downfall of Christian monarchies, and the gradual secularization of the West. And we see the roots of liberalism even in how we discuss theology: If there's no divine interpreter of Scripture, we can never have absolute certainty about any doctrine. Only your interpretation and my interpretation; Your truth and my truth. Even the very first Reformers disagreed on the Real Presence in the Eucharist, iconoclasm, the necessity of baptism, predestination and so on. The core argument of the Reformation was that Scripture is perspicuous, and yet there was never a point where the Reformers agreed on what the Bible says about sacramentology or soteriology. Protestantism just became completely untenable for me. As it stands, I can definitely understand why a person would go Orthodox, though I personally went Catholic. But I simply could not find any more reasons to protest the Catholic Church. I've been watching your videos through it all. Thank you for your sincere Christian charity, Matt.
@aadschram5877
@aadschram5877 23 күн бұрын
So true!
@jacobsousa2635
@jacobsousa2635 22 күн бұрын
As someone who grew up nondenom/Baptist, I’m right there with you. Haven’t converted and I do disagree on certain important issues like the veneration of saints but all these things are reasons I really find Protestantism difficult to hold against the more ancient traditions
@bradyhayes7911
@bradyhayes7911 22 күн бұрын
@ jacob sousa - Veneration of saints is definitely a tricky one. For me, one breakthrough was this argument: Veneration of saints violates the 'Soli Deo Gloria' (Glory to God alone) claim of Protestantism. However, "Glory to God alone" isn't the standard we see in the NT - It's "Glory to God in the highest" (Luke 2:14, Matt 21:9). Paul tells us those in Christ are glorified with Him (Romans 8:17, 2 Thess 1:12). Jesus even tells his disciples they'll be enthoned in heaven, judging the 12 tribes of Israel. God shares His glory with His saints, and is glorified in us, and so Soli Deo Gloria isn't Biblical. In venerating the saints, we further glorify God, because we recognize that anything venerable in them came from God. Bishop Barron put it this way: Would an artist be offended at you admiring his work? Or would he instead be honored in your honoring his masterpiece, knowing that praise for his work is ultimately praise for him? The Catholic/Orthodox standard is 'glory to God in the highest'. The saints are glorified with Christ, but God alone receives the highest form of worship: Sacrifice.
@jacobsousa2635
@jacobsousa2635 18 күн бұрын
@@bradyhayes7911 Dang that's good. You're right, the Bible teaches He alone is good, He alone is worthy, but the standard is always that God recieves the highest worship, not that we cannot enjoy the glory of His creation. Can I ask your thoughts on the Immaculate Conception cause you seem to have this thought out a bit?
@dte8561
@dte8561 22 күн бұрын
I was raised in the evangelical free church. Never really felt connected. Explored Catholicism changes my life. Actually found Jesus.
@PhilosopongKatoliko
@PhilosopongKatoliko 21 күн бұрын
Last 2022 I converted to Catholicism from being anti-Catholic Baptist/Evangelical. 🇵🇭
@tarheelcatholic3394
@tarheelcatholic3394 23 күн бұрын
Baptist to Cathoilc. Tiber swim team 2007
@joejohnston3
@joejohnston3 16 күн бұрын
Love that. Tiber swim team 2023.
@UnfadingLight
@UnfadingLight 20 күн бұрын
A driving factor is that many evangelicals propel false “beliefs” that they say Catholics and Orthodox hold to, and then when one investigates these traditions many realize that what they were told was incorrect from their evangelical background
@melarrow6202
@melarrow6202 17 күн бұрын
As comedian Jan Fulwiler says “ In no haunted house movie will you hear ‘quick, find me a non-denominational worship leader’ or ‘only a Unitarian can save us now’”.
@DM-sj9xd
@DM-sj9xd 14 күн бұрын
Hahaha! Love that line.
@barbhorses
@barbhorses 22 күн бұрын
I'm a Catholic convert because i wanted God's 100% truth. My sister nearly went Norse paganism because of protestantism. Why? So many splintering sects and cults made her think that God couldn't keep his house in order. Only Jesus came in when she was about to verbally renounce him as false for Odin did he stop her. She is also Catholic today by God alone.
@b.r.holmes6365
@b.r.holmes6365 23 күн бұрын
Pastor Matt, apostolic churches are not bearing the "heavy lift" of faith of their congregants. When one goes to Confession, for example, YOU must be of CONTRITE HEART. The confessor cannot be contrite for you. After confession, YOU make a vow to AMEND your life.
@DoctorDewgong
@DoctorDewgong 23 күн бұрын
Based and John 20:23-pilled
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 23 күн бұрын
Resistant protestants simply don't understand this. Unless there was a real act of contrition, the vow to do better, the sacrament of Confession has no effect. Committed Catholics/Orthodox will see their sins reduce in one or more ways, frequency, severity, when making a serious committment to holiness via attendance to Mass/Divine Liturgy and Eucharist more than 1 day per week, regular confession, increasing frequency of prayer through the day.
@peterfox7663
@peterfox7663 21 күн бұрын
24:19 Seems they are looking for more than faith and want something more tangible. Arguably, they are abandoning faith for ritual.
@ninjason57
@ninjason57 23 күн бұрын
I'm not sure why Redeemed Zoomer get's so much publicity. He is arrogant, brash and inconsiderate. He clearly has zeal for God but he needs a healthy dose of humility, grace and brotherly love before he promotes himself as a public authority representing Christianity.
@Robert-ie8eb
@Robert-ie8eb 21 күн бұрын
He's doing a great job helping Protestants become Orthodox or Catholic. Just like James White.
@ericsholland
@ericsholland 15 күн бұрын
Perhaps it’d be most beneficial to ask those who are converting or assisting to those converting to Catholicism or Orthodoxy in order to understand why people are going in that direction, rather than kicking tires and spitballing why people are leaving evangelical Christianity. As someone who converted to Catholicism from Protestantism, I was looking for a framework to follow Jesus through the sacraments, rather than being “in” a denomination that can wildly vary based on the pastor. I disagree wholeheartedly with RedeemedZoomer about the comparison with denomination hopping being like changing gender identity and pronouns for youth (not to mention how offensive that comparison is to both sides of the comparison), but I found that my beliefs were already Catholic the whole time, and joining the RCC made sense to me. Catholicism and Orthodoxy have beliefs you have to have to truly identify as them, and having attended a Mass or Divine Liturgy or not does not mean you cannot have a 90%+ overlap with either.
@sk8board3111
@sk8board3111 22 күн бұрын
Former presby of the OPC and RPCNA for 8 or so years. Just Recently confirmed Roman Catholic. So thankful for the Church. Grace by Garrigou-Lagrange and St Thomas Aquinas were both immensely helpful on the sacraments and justification coming from the duplex iustitia lane of reformed justification.
@jnkelley42
@jnkelley42 23 күн бұрын
I’m Episcopal. Been visiting and considering the Catholic Church. It’s mostly because the folks at the Episcopal church don’t really believe. One afternoon, during a group discussion, I discovered that no one else at the table (including the Priest) believed that Mary was a virgin. The Priest said to me something like: you don’t really believe that do you? Us modern people know how conception works. And last week I got backhanded comments because I believe that Jesus is present in the Eucharist. I tried to defend myself quoting the Bible and Thomas Aquinas. And was told by the Priest until I went to seminary, I had no right to an opinion. Receiving the Eucharist every week changed my life radically and I believe in the power of God. I work every day with unbelievers. Do I really want to go to church with Christians who are essentially unbelievers too? The answer is ‘no’. So, I have been investigating options.
@KnoxEmDown
@KnoxEmDown 23 күн бұрын
That sounds wretched, hope you find your way to the apostolic church safely. I'm Orthodox myself, but faithful catholics are far better than what you've described at your episcopal "parish" :(
@michaelfox4503
@michaelfox4503 14 күн бұрын
The episcopal church brings people together by a communal practice, not obligatory belief. Everyone is entitled to believe what they think is true, but it is the BCP and other practices that create the community. Very different than the RC church where specific beliefs are required. This fact is a big reason why Anglicanism was started in the first place and has been successful, it provided a home for people that didn’t fully agree with one particular theology
@micahkirn6756
@micahkirn6756 17 күн бұрын
For me, protestantism led to a great deal of theological anxiety. I defended sola scriptura my whole Christian life and debated Catholics regularly. I read the Bible daily cover to cover, invested countless hours into reading apologetics and understanding my faith. I could never understand how many protestants were able to consider doctrines on salvation as "secondary" issues. For instance if baptism saves, it isn't a secondary issue... if we can lose our salvation this is not a secondary issue. So in my experience as a protestant, I was overwhelmed with the lack of solidarity even in individual churches having splits, denominations fracturing, etc. I was confident that what I understood the scriptures to mean was obvious and should be obvious to others. Childishly, I was surprised that many others didn't see the scriptures like I did. If you gave me a title, it'd be reformed except being carefully charasmatic. I didn't fit in either camp, both camps devoured one another, therefore I was continously rejected by both camps. Regardless of rejection, I was confident in what I believed so I kept going. It seemed the only thing that protestants agreed on was that getting to far into the weeds on theology was wrong, and that everything was a secondary belief besides have faith in Jesus. In the scriptures I began to be confronted with the book of Hebrews, the priesthood, the saints and the eucharist. The church I went to considered it legalism to have communion weekly. Suddenly francis Chan starts having conversations with the eastern orthodox on the eucharist, and that opened my eyes to something I had missed. I was skeptical of eastern orthodoxy thinking it was catholic lite, but there seemed to be so much there to learn that I didn't know before about a group I hadn't studied. The more I learned the more I began to realize that I was wrong about many things with out a single debate. (This learning took place in person with various priests) Teetering between joining a Presbyterian church that believed in the eucharist (to an extent) and being an inquierer in the EO church, I settled in inquiring because it couldn't hurt. This turned to catechesis and so many of my well established presuppositions shattered. Maybe someone else in my position wouldn't have let it shatter, but I chose to follow the truth where it took me. I am grateful to be eastern orthodox today. That theological anxiety is gone because I was not meant to lean on my own understanding, which sola scriptura unfortunately results in. Protestants dismiss this by saying "yeah but didn't you have to lean on your own understanding when choosing between protestant and orthodoxy" I have yet to see any protestant actually answer to this major flaw in the protestant paradigm without dismissing it with a "yeah but".
@Onunez23
@Onunez23 23 күн бұрын
People yearn for tradition, continuity, apostolic legitimacy and most importantly, Christ.
@dallasbrat81
@dallasbrat81 23 күн бұрын
Christ only cares if you do His will . If you can find those kissing icons, ok .
@carsonianthegreat4672
@carsonianthegreat4672 23 күн бұрын
@@dallasbrat81Christ cares if you follow the Church he established on the foundation of His apostles and their successors.
@jamespowell_km_kchs
@jamespowell_km_kchs 20 күн бұрын
Growing up a Methodist, I later discovered I was lied to about Catholics, how they live their lives, their teachings, etc. I think most prots are lied to about the Catholic/Orthodox Church stemming from their ancestors from the time of the Deformation. The internet or algorithms weren’t a cause for my conversion, the Holy Spirit opened doors for me, little miracles happened that showed me I needed to look into Catholicism. When prots find out this faith going back to Christ himself exists we want to be part of it. Reasons prots become Catholic/Orthodox: the Eucharist, early church fathers, sacraments, the liturgy, the Scripture coming alive through the life of the Church, AUTHORITY. The Church has the authority, not the individual man. It was never supposed to be “Jesus, me and my Bible”. If you’re part of any church who is centered on the pastor or is named after a man (Luther, Calvin, Wesley, etc.), run because it’s a sect, it’s a heresy. Peace and love.
@troyhavok8605
@troyhavok8605 20 күн бұрын
The beauty of a traditional church is not just superficial. It matters more than modern people understand. When we don't celebrate beauty in the sacred places it pops up in other places. We begin to celebrate beautiful people or build beautiful temples to mammon (banks and government buildings.) The church should be as beautiful as we can make it or we begin to build idols and celebrate them instead. At the very least, to quote Jonathan Pageau, "Your church should at least be more beautiful than your home." What we make beautiful is often what we value most. What we value most is what we worship. It's as simple as that.
@DM-sj9xd
@DM-sj9xd 14 күн бұрын
This is a great comment. Well said.
@therhetoricalcatholic4664
@therhetoricalcatholic4664 18 күн бұрын
I think this conversation would have been more authentic with an actual convert to Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
@michaelinsc1644
@michaelinsc1644 22 күн бұрын
Interesting topic. I was an Evangelical Protestant until I left the faith and spent a couple of decades as a non-believer. I returned to the faith and joined the Catholic Church - along with my wife and kids - after a brief flirtation with Anglicanism. The main motivation for me to become Catholic was to get back to the original Christian church that Christ founded. I also was tired of the constant splitting off of various Protestant denominations as well as the ever Leftward drift, emotionalism and YEC. We are now happy active Catholics with our kids in the church's school.
@LauraBeeDannon
@LauraBeeDannon 21 күн бұрын
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@MrSeedi76
@MrSeedi76 14 күн бұрын
People claiming that protestants are splitting off completely ignore the constant splitting of the Roman church itself. You need to become blind to church history to think that the Roman catholic church has anything to do with what Jesus founded. If they did, they wouldn't constantly make up new stuff that contradicts what Jesus said.
@michaelinsc1644
@michaelinsc1644 10 күн бұрын
Catholic means universal. The Church that Jesus and the Disciples founded is still with us today. And it is certainly not some splinter group led by some "reformer" 1,500 years later.
@mortensimonsen1645
@mortensimonsen1645 23 күн бұрын
I think it is also true that the Reformation would never have kicked off unless the printing press had been invented. Technology plays a major role in cultural (and religious) changes. Kind regards from an IT-engineer, 50 yrs, convert to RC.
@aadschram5877
@aadschram5877 23 күн бұрын
That is great! Yeah, I think nowadays the internet does its work.
@anastasijahrsak5751
@anastasijahrsak5751 23 күн бұрын
welcome home!
@stephengriffin4612
@stephengriffin4612 23 күн бұрын
Interesting comment on technology
@MrSeedi76
@MrSeedi76 23 күн бұрын
Maybe people should remember why there even was a reformation. I'm pretty sure no catholic believes the things that were taught by the Roman church back in the days of the reformation.
@DRiceArizona
@DRiceArizona 15 күн бұрын
Wow, "an Orthodox Church with icons of the Saints plastered everywhere..." I guess we are diving down the condescension and non-open mind rabbithole with that dude. EO and Catholic actually CAN claim to have started in 33 AD. Luther was not following his church leaders. It is true that Luther's ideas were a "new innovation". Sorry, but that is truth. He may have had some good ideas but they should have been fought for within the church. Oh BTW, for Redeemed Zoomer I am far from 13 and have been 6 or 7 denominations before I found Orthodoxy. It isn't just a whim of a 13 y/o as implied here that anyone who seeks a return to RCC or EO must be.🤦‍♂
@michelleheltz6116
@michelleheltz6116 22 күн бұрын
New Orleans had almost 600 converts to the Catholic Church this year! It was unbelievable. My husband was one of them. I am a cradle Catholic. We both left evangelicalism!
@jaimecortes3185
@jaimecortes3185 22 күн бұрын
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