Why Are People Refunding Le Mans Ultimate?

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Kireth

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Күн бұрын

I bought Le Mans Ultimate with my own cash, and here are my thoughts.
What do you think about the new racing simulator Le Mans Ultimate from the team at Studio 397 behind rFactor2 - will it be a real threat to iRacing and even Gran Turismo with licensed World Endurance Championship content?!
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@lionelpvz
@lionelpvz 4 ай бұрын
ACC early access was 25 euros with 1 track and one car think about that
@alkallata80
@alkallata80 4 ай бұрын
I don't think he even knew ACC at that time
@braveheart4603
@braveheart4603 4 ай бұрын
But ACC was always gonna add more tracks for the full game. Seems like this game will only ever have wec tracks which is very limited.
@jeremiahs5781
@jeremiahs5781 4 ай бұрын
@@braveheart4603that’s the point…
@alkallata80
@alkallata80 4 ай бұрын
Very limited. Wec 2024. 4 new tracks, 4 new hypercars and LMGT3 that will be 7 GT3 brands... Limited Lol​@@braveheart4603
@alkallata80
@alkallata80 4 ай бұрын
The wec very limited? Wec 2024. 4 new tracks, 4 new hypercars and 7 GT3 car brands. Very limited? ​@@braveheart4603
@paulomatias3
@paulomatias3 4 ай бұрын
Is surprising the fact ppl still dont understand this game is based on 2023 WEC season, GT3 didnt race last year 😆
@54dbruno
@54dbruno 4 ай бұрын
This guy doesn’t understand what early access is either, he’s commenting like it’s a finished product 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤣🤣😂😂
@jacqueessnippetz
@jacqueessnippetz 4 ай бұрын
@@54dbrunosupposedly “early access” is a cover up because they needed this game to avoid bankruptcy. Again this is not 100% true, just what I’ve heard
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
Yes, I keep explaining in my videos it's licensed for 2023
@LucasDerksen
@LucasDerksen 4 ай бұрын
@@Kireth WEC 2023 Calendar is on 7 tracks, why do you think there would be more then 7 tracks?
@slaphead90
@slaphead90 4 ай бұрын
I think the problem lies with the fact that people do not really understand what Early Access means. They expect a fully fledged game that might have a couple of bugs - this is not what early access is about. Early access means unfinished, sometimes very unfinished. It's a risk that you take that sometimes pays off wonderfully, and other times is an absolute pile that never gets further developed Early access has advantages for both the dev and the end user. The dev can catch bugs that don't turn up in internal testing and the end user can help shape the game with feedback about the game. If you don't understand that about early access then don't buy into it. To be honest LMU is actually one of the more polished early access titles I've had. It seems that everybody has forgotten about Rennsport's lack of content and features (although it is free with a beta key) and also that ACC early access was just one car and one track - you had to pay for that and nobody at the time complained. Edit - I'm not refunding as I see a lot of potential here, I'm in it for the ride, although I can understand that this won't be everybody's cup of tea.
@justjami9619
@justjami9619 4 ай бұрын
You make a good point. But the price is bad for the value even for early access. There are plenty of examples of games in early access where you get a lot of value within the game, even if it is clearly still a work in process. The pricing for this seems to be too similarly priced to the same value as you could get for FINISHED game. If you like it, that's great. Because in order for it to succeed and get better, it will need dedicated people like you.
@definitely_not_nick41
@definitely_not_nick41 4 ай бұрын
Totally agree with ya
@torchbearer3784
@torchbearer3784 4 ай бұрын
Hopefully they can fix what needs to be fixed but if they don't then I think they are done. I am not refunding because I like endurance racing and I like the feel of the game. 🤞🤞🤞
@lucastroehlein
@lucastroehlein 4 ай бұрын
Yea but how it si now feels more like a beta or alpha
@slaphead90
@slaphead90 4 ай бұрын
@@lucastroehlein Yes, that's exactly what early access is.
@Lukkaa35
@Lukkaa35 4 ай бұрын
the argument for "there aren't enough GTE cars" and "not enough tracks" is quite dumb, they clearly stated that it will only have tracks/cars from the 2023 WEC season on launch and they will add 2024 content later on.
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
This comment is a bit dumb, because there's no guarantee you get GT3s, you pay your $33 and get 4 GTEs and maybe GT3s down the line
@Lukkaa35
@Lukkaa35 4 ай бұрын
@@Kireth well yeah its MSG so it’s kinda possible, but I highly doubt a series like WEC would let that happen in an official game
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
A series like IndyCar definitely didn't let it happen
@Lukkaa35
@Lukkaa35 4 ай бұрын
@@Kireth well the game didn’t even come out
@erwinlommer197
@erwinlommer197 4 ай бұрын
Regardless of what they have stated, 7 tracks is quite low. Even if it is just what the 2023 season had. It is not a not a lot of tracks. Same with cars. It is what it was in real life. But in a racing sim it is a bit low. Especially if they are going to dlc 2024 and more.
@kaiying74
@kaiying74 4 ай бұрын
Oh look, the RF2 rebadge has all the same issues that RF2 has....
@jeannotx
@jeannotx 3 ай бұрын
that's the only truth
@federicomasetti8809
@federicomasetti8809 4 ай бұрын
2:16 "hey. Got a spare tire mate?" "sure, here you are!" "thanks buddy!" 😂
@Jinyblitz
@Jinyblitz 4 ай бұрын
How did i not see that the first time!!! Gold T_T
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of my last service at kwik fit
@Shinobi117
@Shinobi117 3 ай бұрын
People have over $2000 worth of sim racing equipment and complain about supporting devs for only $30. A software of which without would render your fancy equipment useless.
@Lord_Hands
@Lord_Hands 4 ай бұрын
You would like it to be more clear that this game is early access? There's like a 15 paragraph explanation above the "Add to Cart" button. Not sure how much clearer they could've been.
@BarbecuedPossum
@BarbecuedPossum 4 ай бұрын
I played it last night did a few GTE races had no issues cars handled pretty good can't complain for early access
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
Nice, glad you are happy and enjoying it
@camerawithwings8607
@camerawithwings8607 4 ай бұрын
People should've waited cause we got an update already and the sim feels so good today! I was unhappy yesterday but today VERY HAPPY!!!
@CouchSlouch-
@CouchSlouch- 4 ай бұрын
You're becoming the Gamers Nexus of the Sim community, I like it.
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
....sim racing Jesus?
@regibson23
@regibson23 4 ай бұрын
What steering wheel are you using?
@ShaniceRose-wh2kz
@ShaniceRose-wh2kz 3 ай бұрын
Looks fun i want to try it! I also like that most people ive seen driving have been in cockpit which is refreshing coming from gt7. Im curious how much has been improved since this video?
@qztip
@qztip 2 күн бұрын
I got a refund on steam. The whole thing just felt like crap, the visuals, the feel of the wheel, the brakes... the problem is that I could see it was gonna take hours to dial in the settings and you cannot get a refund if you wait more than 2 hours. So that is why for me.
@spizzlo
@spizzlo 4 ай бұрын
Assetto Corsa is cheaper? ACC, AMS 2 on sale? Dude is talking like it’s your first racing sim. People, if you have never played a racing sim and don’t own any, don’t buy this game, at least not yet. Buy AC, mod it, love it, sink untold hours into it. Buy ACC and/or AMS 2 when they go on sale. iRacing is divisive but it has value for many so play that if you want to. Basically get into sim racing. This game is a beta test. It’s unfinished and it’s been out for a day. It’s made by Studio 397 so it’s almost guaranteed to come good to some extent, and this price is supposed to be a beta discount. But my goodness don’t buy this if you’ve never bought a racing sim. It will be a hobby killer and you’ll think sim racing is a joke lol. Bloody hell.
@stevespack77
@stevespack77 4 ай бұрын
The game is in EARLY ACCESS....I truly hope you understand what that means? Do you know that the Early Access ships with the 2023 WEC season...
@DuncanAtkinson
@DuncanAtkinson 4 ай бұрын
Early access doesn't mean beta version. You expect that the features in the game are basically done.. but requiring polish.. apart from some awful menu issues the game is reasonable IMHO.. i haven't been experiencing any issues particularly
@cole444456
@cole444456 3 ай бұрын
No. This game is "early access". it's the only way they can release a broken game and keep people happy.
@keeptwistin9739
@keeptwistin9739 3 ай бұрын
First time seeing one of your videos and dude you crack me up! Had me rolling over here lol. So I'm an iRacer as well, but was looking at getting something that I can solely have fun on vs taking it as serious as I get with iRacing. Should I get this or ACC?
@Kireth
@Kireth 3 ай бұрын
Thanks bro! This for hypercars 👍w
@JoseCruz-it9gb
@JoseCruz-it9gb 4 ай бұрын
Solid keep up the good work. This is what makes the difference between the other KZfaqrs and yourself. Gracias
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Ferrari918
@Ferrari918 4 ай бұрын
0:37 - Lemme fix that. There is an easy way to get an organized class grid without qualifying. 1: Make sure you have practice session turned on in event settings. 2: Skip the practice session (unless you want to get a few laps in) And when you start the race, it should be organized!
@NonstopRam
@NonstopRam 4 ай бұрын
I have been just messing around with the single player. Hopefully, single player gets more improvements.
@papatijger
@papatijger 4 ай бұрын
you to click the classes you want to race against before you start a weekend 6:47
@CSB-simracing
@CSB-simracing 4 ай бұрын
I had no problems with online 🤔🇧🇪
@thatfunnykekguy6377
@thatfunnykekguy6377 4 ай бұрын
Same here. The only problem I found online, cars oversteer like crazy, and even if you get used to them, it will spin at some corner or other. I saw tons of guys qualifying better than me, and spining for no reason 🤣poor guys, also happened the same to me. But probably a skill issue, idk.
@repsaj2382
@repsaj2382 4 ай бұрын
The 2024 wec gt3's have only just been released how do you expect them to also be in the game?
@regibson23
@regibson23 4 ай бұрын
Because they've already modeled most of them for rf2.
@daviddanser8011
@daviddanser8011 3 ай бұрын
GTE is more fun anyway ☺️
@toutpt
@toutpt 3 ай бұрын
As a player I don't want the frustration of being disconnected or game crash. This is not acceptable. This is not a pre release this is rfactor 2 dlc.
@Mac_Polen
@Mac_Polen 4 ай бұрын
Honestly I don't know why would people refund a game in early access thats just trying to earn money to expand and Improve
@quartics7699
@quartics7699 4 ай бұрын
@Mac_Polen Dont fall for the early access states man! Just an excuse for MSG to release an unfinished product, barely any content and simply to put any bugs/issues towards the fact that it’s ‘early access’.
@Mac_Polen
@Mac_Polen 4 ай бұрын
@@quartics7699 i didn't even buy it cuz i got AC for that lmao, quite expensive for the amount of content in lemans
@Bl3ster
@Bl3ster 4 ай бұрын
It's early access because they expected the reviews. The game won't change much overtime, see the state of rf2 a game that's been developed for years. This is the same franchise.
@Mac_Polen
@Mac_Polen 4 ай бұрын
@@Bl3ster we'll find out in few months from now
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
Because they can put their $33 on other games, or even food/bills
@alkallata80
@alkallata80 4 ай бұрын
Do you recommend iracing over lmu? How many dollars would people need to get those 7 tracks and all those cars? And of course the subscription too
@54dbruno
@54dbruno 4 ай бұрын
Iracing tracks are about 14$ cars are similarly priced
@Puntatacosimuladores
@Puntatacosimuladores 4 ай бұрын
I recommend AC or AMS 2 over it at its current state
@alkallata80
@alkallata80 4 ай бұрын
@@Puntatacosimuladores Respect AC and AM2. There are 2 good games but AC is past and AMS2 game to formula in single player because it doesn't have a good multiplayer mode
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
As of right now iRacing is a much more polished and much more expensive sim - so will depend on everyone's personal preference
@thatfunnykekguy6377
@thatfunnykekguy6377 4 ай бұрын
@@Kireth iRenting been for 15 years mate ... it's not a fair comparation. Even if you are replying to him.
@rodrigopinchiari4027
@rodrigopinchiari4027 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion, people must understand what Early Access means. The game is NOT finished yet, then issues may happen. That's why feedbacks are good for the devs to improve the experience. PATIENCE PEOPLE!
@alnath01
@alnath01 4 ай бұрын
It's good for Forza Motorsport, people will say that, finally, it's not that bad 🙃😇
@pricelessppp
@pricelessppp 4 ай бұрын
They can easily fix the grinding but I heard driving in the game was good.
@stephencoe5161
@stephencoe5161 3 ай бұрын
It's an early access. Beta version, what do you expect, + look at early access to some of the other sims early access 1 track 1 car. I do believe more vehicles are on the way once they sort the bugs out. Patches coming thick & fast.
@jaromirkristian1627
@jaromirkristian1627 4 ай бұрын
I'm old and I just play singleplayer at home. But I don't understand English well and I don't know how to turn on the replay of the entire 18 minute race. Can someone advise me? Otherwise, I like it a lot.
@alnath01
@alnath01 4 ай бұрын
I bought it last night, but before that, I read what they said, and it was clear that I was buying a Beta version of it - I remember mid 90s, I bought Windows 95 Beta version and , when the final version was released, I had to buy it with no discount ! People who ask for refund didn't read the advice on the site, they say it is no finished (fortunately, LOL), they as buyers to file the bugs, send feedback etc.....
@Jonny-gj6md
@Jonny-gj6md 4 ай бұрын
Hello you keep mentioning the load times and that you are running a 4090 but it is the speed of your storage drive that controls load time, it doesn’t seem to take that long to load for me I reckon it probably takes about 1 1/2mins to load a race at the most on my pc
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
NVME bro
@OnlySCHUMI
@OnlySCHUMI 4 ай бұрын
I for the life of me couldn’t find a decent setup for my wheel and pedals! Felt like the cars were really twitchy to small movements and then required big movements to get around corners so I ended up with a tonne of understeer! Same with braking too, I tried numerous pedal profiles, even turned on ABS but that felt like it caused more understeer, I refunded it in the end as my 2 hour window was nearly up to do it. It shouldn’t take that long imo together that figured out, I guess I’ll wait for someone who can be bothered to do it first and then I’ll try again 😂
@C.Hartley
@C.Hartley 4 ай бұрын
Did you download on SSD or HDD? That could effect load times.
@Mythbuster3808
@Mythbuster3808 4 ай бұрын
I cant even get the game to boot if i put it on any ssd, im stuck running it on an hdd
@zTzAvenger
@zTzAvenger 4 ай бұрын
The man has a 13900k and a 4090. What makes you think he has a hdd in that pc....
@evofreak1304
@evofreak1304 4 ай бұрын
I think this game has massive potential , this is really the way to go for simracing games.
@johnbower7452
@johnbower7452 4 ай бұрын
For all people say about Project Cars 2 it still seems to do the best job of simulating the Le Mans, and all different era's which means real cars from the heyday of endurance racing.
@dhedhekuncoro
@dhedhekuncoro 4 ай бұрын
I know it is in Early Access, I expect a few bugs here and there. But, the fact that it is just rF2 underneath, I know those main rF2 bugs wont be fixed like ever.
@user-jt8xw6fd1v
@user-jt8xw6fd1v Ай бұрын
It's not the customers who are refunding it, genious.
@definitely_not_nick41
@definitely_not_nick41 4 ай бұрын
For people refunding the game are just impatient, S397 said that’s it’s not their final version and there would be issues yet people are getting mad about it, they warned us so, maybe they should wait until the final version before calling the W.I.P version a completely broken game
@pngmate4305
@pngmate4305 3 ай бұрын
Ive been with iRacing for long time and I am a big fan of iracing . Surprisingly I enjoy a lot more of La man ultimate in term of driving experiences. This sim is the most realistic of how the cars behaves. It feels really close to the real car honestly, but online system need a lot of improvement.
@Callum-R
@Callum-R 3 ай бұрын
To compare iracing price wise isn’t very comparable. Iracing would cost £13 a month for subscription and then to get the cars and tracks that are on LMU it would cost upwards of £200. £30 doesn’t sound that bad tbh
@stevespack77
@stevespack77 4 ай бұрын
It says Early Access on their STEAM page…
@miro8743
@miro8743 4 ай бұрын
It's an investment hoping for future improvements because if you buy those cars and tracks in rfactor2 the price would be much higher
@RalonsoF1
@RalonsoF1 4 ай бұрын
I'm not refunding because despite its faults it has a TON of potential and I like the driving experience a lot already!
@arranmc182
@arranmc182 4 ай бұрын
I'm shocked they couldnt get Daytona in this game, they got Monza and and Spa so seems strange not to also have Daytona in the game, shocking any sim game thats not free to play would ship with so little tracks hopefully like Forza they keep adding tracks to the base game.
@angeloesposito9403
@angeloesposito9403 4 ай бұрын
With msg track record there's no way I'll fund them on the hope they fix their game.
@wernergolombick1553
@wernergolombick1553 3 ай бұрын
Feels incomplete. Would like dash view with option of not seeing virtual steering wheel.
@erica.9431
@erica.9431 4 ай бұрын
Well, I don't know, I got it yesterday and keeping the early access in mind, I'm having a really good time with it... 🤷🏼‍♂️
@shawndixon4536
@shawndixon4536 4 ай бұрын
This is $43 CND. The most I have paid for a sim is $15 CND for Kart Kraft and $18 CND for Cyberpunk. I think supporting a company by buying an "early access" is a great idea, only when said company doesn't feel like a "fly by night" operation that will likely shut down in 4 to 6 months and a final product is never released. I still have an in-box Enter the Matrix game from 2003 that was so flawed it couldn't even install! I thing the price tag is still on it and was $45-55 CND. So, I would definitely be cautious about this. If the company pushes some updates to address some of the more.major concerns soon, then it would give people confidence that they are actually going to stick with it.
@calzagly6922
@calzagly6922 4 ай бұрын
i picked this game up today and i gotta say theres a lot of potential, its early access so hopefully the bugs will be ironed out in the near future, once hte menus are sorted and online is less buggy then i think the game will be solid enough in its early access stage
@thatfunnykekguy6377
@thatfunnykekguy6377 4 ай бұрын
My menus weren't buggy on practice offline or online. But when I tried to play with the AI, the menus turned out to be laggy and slow.
@calzagly6922
@calzagly6922 4 ай бұрын
@@thatfunnykekguy6377 same thing happened to me, also crashed saving settings it seems to be the menus being everyones headache atm i turned down a few graphics option which got rid of stutters
@dessso4463
@dessso4463 4 ай бұрын
My PC 12600KF, 32gb DDR4 3600, SSD.M2, RTX 4070. And how many fps had I? 12-13 fps on 2K resolution with ultra settings. I can understand that this game needs more than 12Gb videocard, but can this game shows this limit in settings like other games do? And I didn't saw any racing videogames which needed more than 12Gb of video. I lowed graphic to High and graphics looks so BAD and it takes only 5,5Gb of video with 130fps. But it looks like 2005 year today. I'll try some higher settings
@chasetapper2276
@chasetapper2276 4 ай бұрын
I couldn’t even race… so laggy the car would barely move
@marquisegoodwin2481
@marquisegoodwin2481 4 ай бұрын
we can’t complain about how many cars and tracks this Sim has given us for $33.. I participated in early access for ACC, it was 25$ and we got 1 car and one track. So seven trucks aren’t that bad
@jowinho1183
@jowinho1183 4 ай бұрын
That's why I don't like early access games. Because a lot of people will try it and never come back because of the bugs at the start.
@JuynBiets
@JuynBiets 4 ай бұрын
It’s a difficult one this. On one hand I think: Motorsport games doesn’t really have a good track record. On the other hand: the WEC is involved and I think they do want this game to succeed. Plus the fact that this is basically a modernized version of RF2 does appeal to me. Yes of course there are a lot of bugs in this early access mode, but I do think we have to give the people at Motorsport games a chance to make this work.
@billwiley7216
@billwiley7216 4 ай бұрын
I agree that in a multi class race the starting grid being divided by class is a must not a want. This alone would make this a no buy for me at the present time. Yes I understand EA is not a finished product so one can only hope the devs are listening and address the multiple issues being brought up by many users. But fix the issues it is still a better value than i-rent as in that sandbox you are forced to buy more content to compete in most series and even the content you purchase can only be used as long as you continue to pay the mothership her monthly subscription charge. In i-rent $33 will only get you a couple of tracks and maybe 1 car!
@Jinyblitz
@Jinyblitz 4 ай бұрын
Iracing is definitely a trap, Ive spent the money but I'd argue my play time and races completed says that I find it worth it haha, definitely too expensive for not being able to play the sim offline at least when you dont have the subscription, but have already spent $400 on tracks and cars.
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
Kinda feel like this is only an issue for me or something
@yolo-cars
@yolo-cars 4 ай бұрын
I like the idea of this game. I like hypercars. I like Sebring, been there 2 times already and recently I was in Daytona during Roar before Rolex 24. Sebring 12 will be in March this year. I was a bit surprised they included Sebring raceway, not Daytona raceway. There are two endurance races: Daytona 24 and Sebring 12, that's why I thought Daytona should have higher priority. Anyway when you drove around Sebring it looked pretty familiar to me. I could even point where I would be standing with my camera! 🤣 I'll wait few more weeks. Hopefully during Steam Spring Sale they will have a small discount AND hopefully by that time more hotfixes are already rolled out.
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
Daytona 24 is IMSA which is sort of an equivalent championship with slightly different regs!
@yolo-cars
@yolo-cars 4 ай бұрын
@@Kireth Yup. I was thinking Sebring 12 is also IMSA.
@amper_bear
@amper_bear 2 ай бұрын
my le man never crash and only lag ones and i have 7 hours and my friend have 12 we love it
@torchbearer3784
@torchbearer3784 4 ай бұрын
I remember ACC's early access. It was awful but they managed to make a good game of it all. I just hope same thing happens here.
@xd3m0nxx25
@xd3m0nxx25 4 ай бұрын
According turned into an amazing sim Its in eary access . Support the devs to make it better come on ppl
@matthewkistler6199
@matthewkistler6199 3 ай бұрын
I don't see how you can rate/review a clearly marked early access game like it's at V1 full release. The game does have a known issues page and label themselves 'early access'. Early access/beta exists to stress test, find bugs and most importantly get feedback from users to help prioritize the backlog.
@patrickdurka6188
@patrickdurka6188 4 ай бұрын
I also prefer the forcefeedback and graphics over iracing, looks and feels 10 years ahead sadly. But everything else is a total mess 🤣 lets see what the future brings
@FranManPlayz
@FranManPlayz 4 ай бұрын
I have 21hours on the game already. My thoughts are that online has got better since launch, I’ve had iracing before but didn’t take much of a liking to it due to how expensive it is. If you think about it, it’s cheaper to buy Le Mans ultimate than buy all these cars and tracks in iracing. Not to mention the subscription itself. I think it’s a solid game of course it needs work but Im enjoying it so far. I really do hope they fix things quick and that they can implement the new 2024 season at least before the end of the year
@jeantsimracer
@jeantsimracer 4 ай бұрын
I have a simagic alpha mini and le mans is not even in the simagic app. The game's menu is not finished some information is missing I can't even adjust my ffb properly and for some reason my graphics are not as good looking as those youtuber. I have a ryzen 7800x 3d and rx 7900 xt.
@fingers68
@fingers68 4 ай бұрын
This is an early access SIM, not a plug in cartridge for a Nintendo. Sim's are never plug n play, ever, there's always tweaking and setting up to tune it to your system and wants. If your not prepared to put the time in and also appreciate it is early access then maybe it is not for you. It is from the stable of RF2 which is arguably THE best driving sim, so I am happy to support and look forward to the updates. If you don't have RF2, I would recommend this also.
@chriswright5016
@chriswright5016 4 ай бұрын
They've not sorted out the multiclass thing at all in single player. I feel a lot of the single player performance issues are down to the number of cars that you cannot edit, if you do a race including all three classes, and why wouldn't you want to do that. Running all three means that 60 AI cars get dumped on the track. Given that LMU is derived from rF2 that is a recipe for frames dive bombing south. Run a hypercar-only race and you get 15 opponents and all is good in the world and it runs like a champ. So MG/Studio 397 have done themselves no favours there.
@laulen3448
@laulen3448 4 ай бұрын
The game basically is an even less functional rF2 (somehow that's possible), why would I spend money on this? I already don't play rF2 because it's completely broken. And I'm no hater because when it works it's super fun, it just doesn't much too often to be worth spending my time on it. People need to stop hiding behind the EA tag, until the beginning of this month it was meant to be a full 1.0 release, they are using EA as an excuse, period. And for those comparing this to ACC and its EA launch, yeah ACC's was shit, a demo really, but in a couple of years it became a genuinely respectable product, rF2 started as a broken product and over a decade later it's just slightly less broken. LMU is just like its predecessor but with less features and content.
@RyKnocks
@RyKnocks 4 ай бұрын
This exactly. rF2 is heralded for having the best FFB, but the entire package is barely playable and full of bugs. If MSG/Studio397 can’t make rF2 a decent product, why should we think LMU will be any different?
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
So this is rFactor2 0.8?
@RyKnocks
@RyKnocks 4 ай бұрын
@@Kireth Haha! Given MGS’ track record, how long do you think it’ll be till we get 1.0?
@19298701
@19298701 4 ай бұрын
refunded 5 mins ago, turn on youtube and see this video
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
If you'd seen this maybe you wouldn't have refunded!
@derkdrek6230
@derkdrek6230 4 ай бұрын
it will not load in with other cars when all the classes are unselected
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
when the crowd say bo
@daviddavies3637
@daviddavies3637 4 ай бұрын
I get the same lag at times in ACC. My PC's performance in the past week or two in online races on ACC has been really poor. No idea why. But if you compare your experience with that of Dave Cam, he seemed to be lag free. With racing games, a decent CPU is just as important as the GPU. I know I need to upgrade my Ryzen 5 2600. It's way underpowered for my RX6800 XT. The problem with sims is that a lot, if not all, of the physics modelling is done on the CPU (I'm not sure if there might be some use made of the GPU) and you have highly detailed car models, tracks, track data, etc. All of that has to be handled by the CPU in some form or another before it ends up in the GPU. The more cars you have, the better your CPU needs to be.
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
13900k
@daviddavies3637
@daviddavies3637 4 ай бұрын
@@Kireth Pffft! According to Passmark it's only the 64th fastest CPU. You need a Threadripper Pro. 😏In that case, the game's just poorly optimised at the moment, I would think.
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
😁
@leecarlton779
@leecarlton779 3 ай бұрын
Its 2023 season right now so why would they have gt3 from launch and no point having tons of lmp2 if theyre not in the current season
@Wjb647
@Wjb647 4 ай бұрын
Bro I haven’t had an issue online yet . It’s all single player issues . I leterlly just had someone get all pissy because he couldn’t use it on stem deck . I can’t play it on a controller I promise
@rogerdiz3520
@rogerdiz3520 4 ай бұрын
This was the first day of early access. You're basically paying to alpha test the game for them. If you want a fully fleshed out product, wait until it's actually released. You're basically gambling $33 that it will eventually be fully fleshed out when they actually release it, probably for a higher price. baldur's gate 3 was in early access for years, with only 1 act and that turned out great for those who participated... there are also many games that never made it past early access or stayed a hot mess. It's pretty obvious that it's going to be a while before this is finished. Their website fully states this, along with their roadmap. it's rather unfortunate if their steam page doesn't.
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
It's not presented as a "gamble"
@rogerdiz3520
@rogerdiz3520 4 ай бұрын
@@Kireth anything that's early access is a gamble...
@juanesteban8827
@juanesteban8827 17 күн бұрын
I should have gotten a refund instead od thinking it would get better.
@capsl0ckdk973
@capsl0ckdk973 4 ай бұрын
wwell all the GTE cars are there theres only 4 manufactures and same with the hypercars
@glengirot3087
@glengirot3087 3 ай бұрын
Everybody knows that a new game coming out takes well over 12 months to develop into something worthwhile,(rightly or wrongly) this make you look like an idiot for not taking a free key that is if you are offered one in the first place..
@seangray4512
@seangray4512 3 ай бұрын
Why Are People Refunding Le Mans Ultimate? it's because they are tight ass gamers that don't want to support the developers, especially when the game shows so much promise for the price of a bottle of Whiskey! lol
@rodshephard3837
@rodshephard3837 4 ай бұрын
Great comments Kireth. I have an I7 with 16g of ram-it won't even load the game-said I have less than 512MB of Ram! Your expert thoughts would be appreciated....
@cloosat
@cloosat 3 ай бұрын
Oh wow we're playing an actual simulator
@arranmc182
@arranmc182 4 ай бұрын
NASCAR Heat 3 4 & 5 are playable and you can have some real fun with mates online but sadly motorsports games then gave us "NASCAR 21: Ignition" and honestly while the graphics look better than any Heat game its just not as fun thanks to poor physics and AI, I fell for the hype as all the promos for "NASCAR 21: Ignition" looked amazing but sadly once I played it that hype soon vanished.
@mclane78
@mclane78 4 ай бұрын
This is Le Mans! Official WEC licensed sim. Why it should contain gt3 cars or other tracks? I can't understand, why so many people refund it. It's an EA title, and it will get better! And at the moment, you can have much fun in singleplayer, but also in multiplayer. Joined 3 GTE online races and had no problems and it was fair racing. Very good.
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
Bro I got some bad news for you about the 2024 WEC season 😂
@matthewbyrd398
@matthewbyrd398 4 ай бұрын
I bought it, and I love it, so far.
@Swordfish-kb3qj
@Swordfish-kb3qj 4 ай бұрын
If you actually do qualifying it sorts the grid😮
@dessso4463
@dessso4463 4 ай бұрын
Race look really bad. I thought that GT7 races are outdated cos it was made for weak PS4, but just look at Le mans. Where is grass? Why it's so flat? What is going on with trees? I thought that Forza Motorsport looks not really good, but this game change my mind. ACC has much more good looking graphic.
@andrewhounsome5969
@andrewhounsome5969 2 ай бұрын
I'm not refunding. I'm having an absolute blast..... :-)
@Kireth
@Kireth 2 ай бұрын
Nice!
@trashgamer3318
@trashgamer3318 4 ай бұрын
Early access because of the license stuff I think
@SwitchedOn
@SwitchedOn 4 ай бұрын
Think your comments are harsh - this is effectively Day 1 of Early Access. I'm sure most of the things you spoke about ARE coming. Could be in EA for a year, so if you want to be part of the process of helping the game along, then stick with it and feed back to the devs. (BTW at 14:00 ish, there IS a list of known issues by end of yesterday. Lot of them, but they are responding quickly). Its also VERY clear its an EA title when you buy on Steam, so you cant level that against them either.
@racerx94
@racerx94 4 ай бұрын
IT'S $33 BUCKS? EARLY ACCESS Geez... You're gonna spend more on lunch. Just enjoy the game. Iracing is a monthly subscription, you have to buy content etc etc, so im sure they have way more resources to hire more developers, also owned by a millionaire. I have all the sims and just enjoy all of them because i remember when we didn't have all these options in sim racing, and i've been sim racing since the 90's. Lets just support the "Game" developers that support the hobby with games, not try to put them out of business with negative content creation for clicks.
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
Bro what are you having for lunch, I have peanut butter sandwiches 😅😅
@racerx94
@racerx94 4 ай бұрын
@@Kireth Chicken Caesar salad and a drink cost $25 bucks in USA. Also 🍿 movie date with family might cost $75 bucks with popcorn and drinks.. lol .. so $33 bucks not a big deal. We're buying metal profile rigs, with no seat for 1k, means nothing without the game.. lol 😂😂
@traviseastough2675
@traviseastough2675 4 ай бұрын
Its a hell of a lot better than the ACC early access If anyone cares to remember ,
@scorps0326
@scorps0326 4 ай бұрын
Forza motorsport was early access $120 aud
@LouisCocquet
@LouisCocquet 4 ай бұрын
30$ is a lot of money. Also iracing 18$ per track … Honestly this argument suck, that WEC game you can’t except more than that
@dathyr1
@dathyr1 4 ай бұрын
I figured the game would be this way on first release. I never buy any racing games on first release, period. I will wait till the end of 2024 and then see how the game is doing. Next, I am not into this kind of endurance type racing and with only 7 tracks - I know this is WEC racing. The game is too limited for content for me. I don't do online racing anymore. Single player with AI is a joke from what I see in this video. And I will wait till it has VR implemented. Till then I have RFactor and RFactor 2 which I enjoy which have VR. Take care.
@SimracerAdam
@SimracerAdam 4 ай бұрын
i dont have any problems.
@zeekot4064
@zeekot4064 4 ай бұрын
It’s early access wtf were ppl expecting ?
@LuizinhoNetto
@LuizinhoNetto 4 ай бұрын
its simulator is espetacular!!!! i am very happy
@kylemanning193
@kylemanning193 4 ай бұрын
i think the game looks awesome!!!!!! cant wait for it to come to console
@keithwhite474
@keithwhite474 4 ай бұрын
Just to let everyone know this game is just a copy and paste of RF2, it has the same great driving experience with the same awful ui and bugs. The Gtes and Lmp2 are in rf2 if you turn the FFB down you will find these will feel much better. If you want the grid fixed just do qualify and jump to next session it will solve the issue. Really silly of S397 to just ignore what RF2 players have been telling them for a decade lol.
@001sander2
@001sander2 4 ай бұрын
I won't refund, I hope it helps development 🤓
@Kireth
@Kireth 4 ай бұрын
Yep this is how it should work
@jorge_781
@jorge_781 4 ай бұрын
In few months they'll buy again.
@daviddanser8011
@daviddanser8011 3 ай бұрын
If you refund this EA it’s pretty stupid imo. It’s very cheap atm and will only get expensive whenever more content is added. Also bugs are getting fixed with every update. Atm it is my favourite sim even with the quirks it has. I have been an avid iracer but after playing this for a while iracing handling just feels plain and dull.
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