Why Ashes of Creation is TAKING SO LONG!

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Ryve Genesis

Ryve Genesis

2 ай бұрын

One of the biggest complaints from the Ashes of Creation haters tends to be people asking why development is taking so long. Well, there are a lot of details that few are aware of as to why it has taken so long. MMOs...take time. You just normally are not aware of how long they take because most MMOs are developed in secret.
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@Wild_Cat
@Wild_Cat 2 ай бұрын
Ashes of Cope
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
I also like Cats
@NoahfromEarth
@NoahfromEarth 2 ай бұрын
Coping of creation.
@thedaeron3877
@thedaeron3877 Ай бұрын
Wild_cope
@user-me7iw6ft8z
@user-me7iw6ft8z 2 ай бұрын
My favorite thing is when they say it looks like a 2010 game when it's not even i beta yet. It's like visiting a house that's being built and it's only bricks for now, and someone say it's looks like an abandoned building, it doesn't even have paint on it.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
Truth
@OsmosisMaple
@OsmosisMaple 2 ай бұрын
@@RyveGenesis my guy here literally reply to bot
@ZybakTV
@ZybakTV 2 ай бұрын
0:43 Pat 3 Warrior PvP video...a man of culture!
@stickyrubb
@stickyrubb 2 ай бұрын
I love your sponsors
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
😂
@AndrewVisse
@AndrewVisse 2 ай бұрын
🐓
@Acid_hail
@Acid_hail 26 күн бұрын
Listen, I’m not a fan of having to wait nearly a decade for a game I’ve been desperate for from the moment it was announced either But from what I can see and what they’ve announced and shown time and time again, it’s been pretty easy to put the faith in them and just be patient when they’ve acted in good faith as far as I can tell 100% of the time and intend on giving us the best product they can
@sticqeno288
@sticqeno288 2 ай бұрын
Good things come to those who wait. Kinda feel the same about Ashes. Might not be perfect when it drops but I'm sure it'll be something we can all enjoy.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, 💯
@JohnAPrescott
@JohnAPrescott 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Agree 100% Haters just going to hate on anything they can these days.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
Yup
@megamcee
@megamcee 2 ай бұрын
Raging roosters for Ashes
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
😁
@Buttz2Buttz
@Buttz2Buttz 2 ай бұрын
The game came out too fast its not done yet.....ITS TAKING TOO LONG I WANT IT NOOOOOW. Gamers never seem to be happy. Hope they take the time they need, and release it when its ready. It will be great if they do that.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
💯
@trenttucker3254
@trenttucker3254 2 ай бұрын
It’s taking so long because this ranger is in every thumbnail 😭 😅
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
True lol
@user-me7iw6ft8z
@user-me7iw6ft8z 2 ай бұрын
ESO is not a muchsmallers scope if you consider all the maps, voiced quests ect..
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
I mean more the scope at launch
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 ай бұрын
Solid points. Great video!
@kunfuz1on5
@kunfuz1on5 2 ай бұрын
Did we play the same wow at launch? For the time, the game was incredibly massive and unlike anything most gamers (at the time) had ever seen.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
At the time, yes
@Harpie.
@Harpie. 2 ай бұрын
the sponsor definitely got my attention
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
😂
@GP-ur6if
@GP-ur6if 2 ай бұрын
Yeah people forget how buggy and bad launches the early MMOs had. It is unfortunate that MMOs take even longer to develop now than they did, wish it had become more streamlined. Hoping AI will help with the graphics models since that is what added a bit of extra overhead costs and time.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@contiplays
@contiplays 2 ай бұрын
Man, I really need for my law finals that stuff that makes your copium so high.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
:)
@JohnAPrescott
@JohnAPrescott 2 ай бұрын
Dude, you got to see Blue Squadrons review of this video.....its staggering the level of stupid in it...its almost laughable...
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
I've seen it.
@ZodaSoda
@ZodaSoda 2 ай бұрын
For people who understand Development, you're not saying anything we dont already know, I dont really care either way as this game probably wont appeal to me, But if i was to give ammunition to the people who are complaining about how long this Developer is taking it would not be about release but more about the systems they brag about, even 3 years in if you're charitable 5 years if you're going off their own timeline, They have yes to show how they think these systems are going to work at scale, how they're going to avoid pitfalls of gamers who tend to abuse every loop hole they can find, Infact all of the systems and player control elements are far far far more important to show and progress on than the recent combat animations, Animations are basic, other MMOs add new animations ever 1 - 2 years, this is not the important part of their MMO, so if i was actually invested in this game, i would be asking for a hell of a lot more of the player run stuff than they have deemed to talk about let alone show. This should be a concern, worst case scenario you're going to get a MMO launch with expected combat expected open world, expected questing, but the things that this MMO brags about will be under cooked or under served. I'm happy to be wrong btw, if their next Alpha includes thorough testing by actual players of the player run systems at ALL levels, including the progression and destruction of said systems, I will say they're on good pace, if not, I will warn all AoC hype beasts, to be prepared for this game to launch without the complex systems at all, if it launches.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
It's got a long ways to go, but I still think the base is good and the concepts are good. It could fail, that is totally possible for sure.
@ZodaSoda
@ZodaSoda 2 ай бұрын
@@RyveGenesis I think it will be fine if it launches with okay combat and okay content to keep people busy, But i think the people who are looking forward to this game need to start demanding the Player run content be shown and tested so the game doesnt launch with bad systems to abuse or flat out things that just dont work in an MMO that we "hope for" sometimes our ideas sound magical including Steven, but they just dont work once they're in players hands or they fundamentally change what ppl thought the game would be and you end up alienating a lot of people.
@djvirtek
@djvirtek Ай бұрын
Good vid, sir! Dr. DisRyvespect needs to take a chill pill and brush his hair, methinks. It. Takes. Time. !!.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis Ай бұрын
No doubt
@schrumpelhutz
@schrumpelhutz 2 ай бұрын
people always forget that it should be way easier and faster to do anything, the engines are 5000000 times better than 20 years ago, still games take longer and lets be honest most have even less content/quality.
@SuperBlackatude
@SuperBlackatude 2 ай бұрын
People are so impatient because they have nothing better to do. Ashes went from a super small studio and now have like 200 staff members. Since they started hiring the game has progressed amazingly to the point where its not hard to believe that many systems and biomes are completed just not polished. Because they dont just showcase everything to date the haters take that as "this is all they have completed. A few classes, and a riverlands biome in 8 years". They see that goblin that was bugged out and spinning like a ball in place and apply that to everything. Huffing that hatium when they could be drowning in copium
@KachZz
@KachZz 2 ай бұрын
I think the fact they used Kickstarter, sold $250 supporter packs makes them think they constantly need to update people about their progress, and the more they do that, the more people expect them to do that xD its a vicious cycle at the moment. I wouldn't mind them to go silent for 6+ months and just let them cook. Also at this point no fucking game, as good as it could be, could live up to the hype they've created themselves.
@Yxar
@Yxar 2 ай бұрын
Sadly I think they are running out of time/money. Sincerely hope I'm not right 😢. With guild wars 3 in development hoping they will kick up a gear and get it released asap
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
I think if they were running out of money they wouldn't have stopped selling the pre order packs. But, I agree they can't be in development forever
@thisnameisinuse8259
@thisnameisinuse8259 2 ай бұрын
The cope for ashes is real just accept y’all are getting scammed out of your time waiting for a game that is the star citizen of mmo’s and you say every mmo has a smaller scope but in reality you probably just suck at game with slightly difficult mechanics 👁👄👁.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
True
@akuamen658
@akuamen658 2 ай бұрын
riot mmo started in 2016? i thought it was in 2020
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
They worked on an MMO from 2016-2018 then started again in 2020
@JanPapiezGaming
@JanPapiezGaming 2 ай бұрын
This game will never come out of beta/early access + game already looks outdated. Those who bought all their packs and support stuff got scammed lmao
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
No
@mattulrich2810
@mattulrich2810 2 ай бұрын
I will die of old age before this game releases.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
That's the Riot MMO actually
@Fenlock56
@Fenlock56 2 ай бұрын
Minimal content with the original wow launch? yeah ok lol.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
Compared to what we get with MMO releases today, yes. Was barely one raid, only a few dungeons and no real PVP. You might be thinking of WOW classic which is the final patch of Vanilla, not patch 1.0
@Fenlock56
@Fenlock56 2 ай бұрын
@@RyveGenesis maybe we remember it differently, but wow lauched with like 20 dungeons and 5 raids. Yes some of the raids were smaller, and some of the dungeons were multi-wing - but it was still massive compared to modern day mmo launches.
@Fenlock56
@Fenlock56 2 ай бұрын
@@RyveGenesis AND i have this feeling when you say modern MMO launches you are most likely talking about korean games that have been running for 1+years in other regions waiting to be ported like Lost Ark and Throne and Liberty as examples of large amounts of content on launch. Considder a big western MMO to be something like New World, that launched with 6 dungeons, 4 of those that didnt have end bosses just a slightly harder mob i think this is a fair reflection on modern day mmo's.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
@@Fenlock56 WOW launched with MC and Onyxia as raids. Onyxia wasn't much of a raid. Unless you are considering UBRS/LBRS. I don't consider those proper raid content TBH. For me..1 raid. MC. 1.1 raids is you include Onyxia
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
@@Fenlock56 NW had the least amount of content of any MMO launch I have ever seen. Which is why it failed, among many other reasons
@hevans900
@hevans900 2 ай бұрын
lmao
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
Lol
@gentoolive
@gentoolive 2 ай бұрын
Ashes of By the time it releases noone will care anymore.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
Naw
@flatearth7800
@flatearth7800 2 ай бұрын
yeah
@flatearth7800
@flatearth7800 2 ай бұрын
wont be good at all i think
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
maybe
@itsahrims
@itsahrims 2 ай бұрын
Hardest copium being inhaled. graphics are noting crazy compared to modern titles. and the systems in place are ok at best. nothing revolutionary
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
It's not done yet
@itsahrims
@itsahrims 2 ай бұрын
@@RyveGenesis 10 more years and it'll finally look like a 2024 triple A game lolol
@kleonhs
@kleonhs 2 ай бұрын
Yeah. You lost me the first 10 seconds after you started yelling
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
Good
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 2 ай бұрын
It’s where he found me ❤
@soratarz7830
@soratarz7830 2 ай бұрын
Its your fault. U and the other no life content creator are constantly hyping this game when they dont even have a release date
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
Ok
@flatearth7800
@flatearth7800 2 ай бұрын
true
@thedaeron3877
@thedaeron3877 Ай бұрын
@soratarz7830 lol geez calm down, go play outside lol ... damn you are taking this waayyy more than it supposed to be lollll go play BDO and waste your money there lol
@flatearth7800
@flatearth7800 Ай бұрын
@@thedaeron3877 no he is right we need to ditch this game by now we know its a scam
@thedaeron3877
@thedaeron3877 Ай бұрын
@@flatearth7800 says the flatearther !
@bgh12g
@bgh12g 2 ай бұрын
This is just another Star Citizen scam for idiots that have hopium for the genre. I would love to be wrong, but I wont be.
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
It has big scope, but still much less than SC
@바보Queen
@바보Queen 2 ай бұрын
scam game thats why
@Silent-1983
@Silent-1983 2 ай бұрын
Yep, this is my feeling. These fools are fanboys of anything. They defend it like it is their game. 😊
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
Ok
@ninvusoogoar6098
@ninvusoogoar6098 2 ай бұрын
well when people at work have a deadpool going to see which potential scam game will release first being between ashes of creation or star citizen..... you know your game is a bit wack. the game has a huge chance of ending up like new world with its tile system... hopefully not
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
Tile system?
@ninvusoogoar6098
@ninvusoogoar6098 2 ай бұрын
@@RyveGenesis the tile system in ashes is a more complex and advanced form of new worlds "zone" system where the entire end game evolves around the 3 factions of new world trying to control each zone. the reason i brought up new world is because i foresee ashes of creation ending up like new world if it loses population. in new world if you were on a server that was too lop sided towards a faction the game was horrible and you had zero chances of winning any faction wars or owning anything. my fear is that AOC might turn off A LOT of mmo players who the majority of which are not a fan of full loot pvp or being forced to interact with pvp. and because AOC's tile system is farmore complex and detailed than new world A LOT can go wrong of course at launch these issues might not be much of a factor, but 8+ months in is where a lot of MMOs start to die off or boil down to its core niche audience that supports it... i doubt AOC will "die" soon after launch but the first 8 months of an MMOs launch is very critical
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
@@ninvusoogoar6098 that's fair. I agree the early part of an MMO is the most important
@ninvusoogoar6098
@ninvusoogoar6098 2 ай бұрын
@@RyveGenesis yeah and if they shit the bed or fumble in those first few months could kill the games potential far easier than new worlds screw ups did... simply because of how complex and in depth AOC seems to be aiming for. hopefully it doesnt and the tile system is versatile enough to withstand the bottle necking of content based on the various player guilds.
@Deeezznuts
@Deeezznuts 2 ай бұрын
12 years Copium
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 ай бұрын
hmmm
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