I've worked in a precision machine shop for 20 years. Let me assure you it doesn't cost them a couple hundred bucks to do an HRC test.
@xlilnetx Жыл бұрын
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@jameskz688 Жыл бұрын
@CuttingBoardReviews Precision cutting tools are what we specialize in and we sent out all our work for heat treat. When it came back it would take 30 min to an hour to clean and test depending on the size of the jobs. Wages 25 to 30$ an hour on average. I'm sure when we do it for anyone outside the company we would probably double that. But a single piece already disassembled would be done regularly free of charge. I've tested some of my blades while on lunch. Why would I post the company name and number? Do you know how the internet works?
@jameskz688 Жыл бұрын
@CuttingBoardReviews Did you estimate that using your mechanical engineering degree? Tell yourself what ever you need to justify that butterfly tax.
@jamesstephenson2346 Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRxbenchmade pays machinists 18 dollars an hour (there is a job posting now). This was NOT a few hundred dollar job, stop simping for this horrid, anti american company that pays shit wages.
@jamesstephenson2346 Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRxshows what your degree was worth lmao.
@Pugrug. Жыл бұрын
I’m on the fence with Benchmade, I own 4 knives from them, I love them all, but they are pricey. It would 100% be worth the price if it was 5 years ago when they would replace blades for free and other parts too. Now you have to pay $70-$90 for s30V blade replacements and the price only goes up with other steels. Their quality control is subpar compared to other companies but most issues can be fixed at home, they have good customer service, and you can work on you knives without voiding warranty. Overall, $180-$200 for a base model bugout is dumb, same with all their other knives. Benchmade Is good but overpriced.
@flankman9385 Жыл бұрын
I own a few as well and I’m with you, I EDC blades with 440C all day every day for work as a finish carpenter. Easy to sharpen and if something happens like a break or I lose it I’m not that upset. I own a few very expensive knives that I get for birthdays and Father’s Day and they sit in my safe.
@ronaldraygun2639 Жыл бұрын
They’re still 160 at my local gun shop. Idk where people are getting ripped off
@talexander7217 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why the Bugout is so pricey. I handled one recently and it felt cheap and plastic-y.
@TheRealSwampOperator Жыл бұрын
That fuckenn test did not cost them a " couple hundred bucks"... None of it did.. it takes 30 seconds to disassemble a freek.. it takes about 2-3 minutes to sharpen s90v when your set up with everything to do it.. which Benchmade is, because they are manufacturing the knife . Now that doesn't take away from Benchmade cool life sharp program. And also their great customer service.. But since you wanted to flex your credentials, you should know all this stuff I mentioned don't cost a couple hundred bucks for people that are already set up for all the stuff you mentioned
@richardhenry1969 Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRxi call bullshit on that list. If they are charging all that they are worse then the governments waste of time. Guess all that extra charging is why benchmade has enough money to donate to crazy California liberals and gun grabbers. Just look up benchmade donation history. Of course they started hiding it after people foundout. I value freedom and my constitution i will never support a company that goes against that.
@jasonsmith-hz1km Жыл бұрын
One dimple is the hole to tell what the metal is. You will find these holes on blades from benchmade that have different steel types within the same style. I know since I worked there.
@___Bryan___ Жыл бұрын
My $300 S90V Bugout came with one of the worst factory edges Ive ever had with a new knife. I have many $30 to $50 budget knives that came with a better edge. What good is their lifetime sharpening when they can't get it right the first time!
@ntstick06 Жыл бұрын
I got a mini freak Jade limited edition, and it also has a horrible edge from the factory, it wont slice paper. I never messed with it and it has heen sitting in my pelican case since.
@MB-jg4tr11 ай бұрын
I've purchased 2 Benchmade knives, spent too much for both, and they both came in horrible shape. I returned one for refund outright it was so bad. The other I sent in for warranty repair and they sent it back in almost as bad condition that I received it in. When I tried to talk to them afterwards they wanted me to pay them more and said they can't help me otherwise. Really disappointing. It's the Brand name they've made & the fanboys who like knives but don't really use them much who keep the company alive I guess. Overcharge for a so so product and people who don't know any better just think it must be great quality.
@___Bryan___11 ай бұрын
Its a shame when companies like Benchmade who built great products and a good reputation and now deliver an average or below average product. Is it corporate greed, new management, poor quality control? I don't know enough about the company to say for sure. I grew up thinking they were one of the best production knife companies, today you won't catch me buying anything of theirs. Another company I can think of this has happened to recently is Klein Tools.
@Mr1121628 Жыл бұрын
S90V is that way for sure. Very prone to chipping due to the hardness. In fact, I usually avoid edc’ing s90v for that reason. Elmax or m390 is more forgiving
@EDCandLace Жыл бұрын
S90v is not a chippy steel, nor is it chippy due to its hardness... in fact s90v from BM is ran 59-60hrc... m390 at a proper hardness will be ran 62+ and elmax is typically run 61 to 63hrc. So no s90v is not chippy due to its hardness as its typically ran softer then both other steels you stated. If you got chippy S90V its because the heat treat protocol is poor or the edge was over heated from the factory edge. This coming from someone that's been a professional free hand sharpener for many years and sharpen and test many 100s of knives every year. Most people that say s90v is chippy and "hard to sharpen" is just repeating stuff they have heard someone else say and neither have any experience at all with it. S90v in a production environment is one of the overall highest performance stainless steels you can get your hands on.
@christianmcbride9905 Жыл бұрын
I've heard of a few different companies S90v was chippy and that hard streels can and do chip if used roughly
@patrickbledsoe2176 Жыл бұрын
@@EDCandLace I'm new to high end knife world... and when i say high end I mean nicer than I'm use to lol I'm wanting to purchase a nicer leatherman than i have use and abuse my wave I like a nicer steal what's your thoughts 154cm or sv30 in a multi tool?
@erico2079 Жыл бұрын
@@EDCandLace they have different HRC's because they are different steals...all 3 of them react differently because they have different properties
@HellGatefr2 Жыл бұрын
S90V isn't a hard steel, it does have a lot of carbides though
@PrinceAsmodeus Жыл бұрын
their customer service and repair center has a lot of experience
@lazyboylarry4345 Жыл бұрын
Why'd they rockwell test it, for counterfeit detection?
@CosmicJhana Жыл бұрын
I appreciate learning this about Benchmade. Thanks for the info!!
@domokun3142 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more. I had a Spyderco PM 2. Great knife but I gave it away after about 2 years of ownership. I have 4 Benchmades and I've never given 1 away.
@EDCandLace Жыл бұрын
So a quick belt edge, disassembly and a hrc test punch cost BM a couple hundred bucks? Please explain how that is? The local machine shop will do a 3 punch test for me for 5 bucks a blade on a high end commercial grade hardness testing machine as well as do a XRF test and print out for me all for 5 dollars a blade. It takes about 5 mins to take a axis lock knife apart and about 5 mins to put back together. If that cost them a couple hundred bucks there is some serious issues.
@giantfatberg Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the Narrows? Is it innovative enough and are the materials of such high quality to demand the $500+ price. Seems like these days supporting Benchmade is becoming increasingly unpopular. As a kid I looked at knife catalogs for hours and dreamed of owning one. Got a few now, love them and I think I would love the Narrows.
@giantfatberg Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx cool thanks!
@Pugrug. Жыл бұрын
Personally, i’d rather buy a chris reeve knife for that price instead.
@Hungrybird474 Жыл бұрын
Yeah bro , the mini freek is awesome . 👏.
@jamesfair9751 Жыл бұрын
The dimple you showed is where the detent ball goes into
@roscomcfarland20411 ай бұрын
Let me assure you taking apart a knife is not very time intensive or time consuming. Especially for the manufacturer
@hifly8125 Жыл бұрын
Benchmade ruined my knife when I sent it for sharpening. When I sent I back with complaint they just ground it down again. So now I have a blade that is 1/2” shorter. Wtf?
@kdiggs525 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I love your argument that justifies the price. Now when talking about something like the narrows that just came out that's a little overpriced but most things are not that bad and the Life sharp guarantee is pretty good but most high-end makers have lifetime guarantees
@paulbellus591 Жыл бұрын
Nice to be able to get blade replacement.Other companies should take a hint.
@ChumFugler Жыл бұрын
I’d did not cost them a few hundred dollars. It costed them approximately 1-1.5 hours of a techs time to disassemble, test, and sharpen maybe costing around $40-$60 for his wages. But Life Sharp is an amazing warranty none the less.
@Brian-rj5rl3 ай бұрын
No way it takes them that long. I would bet they need to be doing at least 5 to 10 blades per hour. The hardness test might add an additional 5 minutes if its a long walk
@tbone1753 Жыл бұрын
S90v chips easily I had one do the same but I sharpened it out
@tbone1753 Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx different one
@tbone1753 Жыл бұрын
14 degrees is a little much
@masonmcaloon7100 Жыл бұрын
what’s the knife you are using to open the box?
@rebel_scum_ Жыл бұрын
How quickly was your knife returned to you? Thinking of sending my Boost s30v in for sharpening.
@henrycalhoun5809 Жыл бұрын
That point about Benchmade honoring its warranty on one of its knives not belonging to the original owner is surprising. I was unaware of this warranty.
@christopherlarson7579 Жыл бұрын
Why would it cost them a couple hundred $? Don’t they have the HRC testers at Benchmade?
@RicardoLopez-ff1nz Жыл бұрын
Anyone know if the warranty applies if you have swapped the scales?
@RicardoLopez-ff1nz Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx awesome! Thank you so much
@lazyboylarry4345 Жыл бұрын
I've got a Bugout sent out for omega spring replacement right now. It's the second time.
@brighamruud5090 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve worn out the spring and they made it a huge hassle to get replaced. Kind of a bummer considering the price I payed
@lazyboylarry4345 Жыл бұрын
Never had a problem with my freek.
@tubbs200803 Жыл бұрын
Until you break an omega spring and they blame it on you for having a deep carry clip you installed saying you voided the warranty.
@tubbs200803 Жыл бұрын
Nope it was my first benchmade s30v mini grip. Broke a spring sent it in and was charged $15 for the spring and labor and $20 for return shipping
@tubbs200803 Жыл бұрын
The clip I had on it was some generic ebay mini bug out style clip. Maybe they didn't appreciate that? Idk
@bamabladez Жыл бұрын
Got it! So increase your prices double and decrease the QC. And most of the majority of sales wont use. 😆
@hagninety4116 Жыл бұрын
A couple hundred bucks for a hrc test. That is true commitment.
@hagninety4116 Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx A great company that stands behind their product. Along with designing great knives, they also provide the best service in the industry. You’re so right about all the support they provide. It’s truly an investment into a lifetime knife. Glad they took good care of you. Shows the commitment they have to customers.
@izulaAlec036910 ай бұрын
Idk if that's accurate. There are Benchmades that are 200 and a little less. If it costed them a couple hundred to do a hrc test they would lose money instead of gaining it. Snd Benchmade is not that good. The 940 and griptilian are timeless but other then that i carry crk.
@Hungrybird474 Жыл бұрын
What was the hrc ?
@lazyboylarry4345 Жыл бұрын
They'll (Benchmade) replace the blade, need be.
@Sleepy_spartan717 Жыл бұрын
Benchmade has absolutely lost their way. The 940 and griptillian series were epic and priced very well. The bugout, overpriced. Shoot out, overpriced. Don’t even get me started on the narrows. And I’m used to spending anywhere from $300-1000 on knives like the Arius I carry almost daily outside of work and the striders that are work knives. The narrows is a $300-350 knife at best. That extra $200 or so for nothing more than the warranty and sharpening service isn’t worth it. Especially when so many other American made knife companies offer warranty’s similar to that.
@mrhairypalm5006 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't cost that much to do the test you're insane.
@MB-jg4tr11 ай бұрын
Probably less than $100 labor included.
@jamesmesser2323 Жыл бұрын
yea kershaw has same warrantys
@stevenjoanelvelez701911 ай бұрын
If you’re gonna have only one knife for hard edc use I really recommend Benchmade, but for collectors and people who rotate knifes or have some knowledge on how to maintain it I wouldn’t recommend Benchmade, the price doesn’t justify the use ur giving it in that case.
@socandyman Жыл бұрын
Love benchmade they are all I edc
@frogoSwaggins Жыл бұрын
This is why I stay away from benchmade even though they have some pretty good products, there is always problems with the quality control and it’s way overpriced.
@noahjones4237 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, benchmades are glorified paperweights, especially when Buck knives do the same thing with EXCELLENT warranties at a fraction of the price. Hard pass for Benchmade. They're the Kimber of the knife world, overpriced for what you get in return and riddled with QC problems.
@gregwatruba4541 Жыл бұрын
If you can't sharpen a knife, you shouldn't be allowed to own a knife.
@brianthomas8555 Жыл бұрын
Every time I have sent a knife in for lifesharp they have made me pay for a new blade! It’s a scam! They are also going to keep you knife over a month 😢
@Pugrug. Жыл бұрын
You asked for a new blade. Unless you completely ruined your edge, they won’t force you to buy anything.
@jackmesserine Жыл бұрын
I got à bugout aluminium m390 and it was bad sharpening too expansive for wat i gate .. now i bye WE and its really good price and quality. I cant send back benchmade i live in swisse too expensive forsend
@49giants3 Жыл бұрын
I only see one dimple. The other is a hole.
@6030jdr Жыл бұрын
You think that cost them a couple hundred % , you are smoking something
@landonjones676 Жыл бұрын
F their pricing today. They will be a dead company sooner rather than later because of price gouging. I used to be a huge fan of benchmade. Sadly I I won’t be buying anymore of their knives due to massive price hikes on their new knives. Cheap materials at premium prices.
@landonjones676 Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx wasn’t talking about that particular knife. I’m talking benchmade as a whole today. The fact they significantly raised the price on all their bugouts just because you get 3 new colors is a joke. Same cheap materials but price hiked way up for literally almost nothing. Then that dumb new narrows knife for freaking $500 is hilarious.
@patrickmccrea3455 Жыл бұрын
Benchmade is over priced junk😊
@warrentotheg11 ай бұрын
Lol
@N3m3sls Жыл бұрын
yeah but benchmade is anti 2nd amendment, so no thanks
@malleusmaleficarum7840 Жыл бұрын
That didn't cost BM "a couple hundred bucks", it cost their customers "a couple hundred bucks".💩 Removing the blade time and labor consuming? It is nothing compared to working a lathe, drill press, milling machine, furnace or grinder. Anyone can take a knife apart and assemble it in 5 minutes. Come on man, give me a break.😂
@malleusmaleficarum7840 Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx Congrats on your success and I mean it from the heart. The point I was making is that most of their work is CNC based machining, not old school like us. They have assemblers and finisher specialists but make nowhere near $85 an hour, more like $20/hr. They handle multiple returns within an hour, so the cost is spread among consumers by unit. Either way, I like BM and own a couple of their fixed blades like the 3v puuko but wish they were more reasonable.
@malleusmaleficarum7840 Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx Now that I have seen it, I am happy to see an elegant knife surpass expectations in a torture test. BM made that M390 a monster. You are right, they did excellent with the warranty service.
@michaelsheedy79889 ай бұрын
Well, their “warranty” is bullshit. Tried to send in my infidel for repair and they denied it, only applies if you bought it on their website and have the receipt. These Guys are expensive, and sketch
@CuttingBoardRx9 ай бұрын
You’re either lying deliberately or repeating someone’s bullsit.
@kennethwDavis-es1bg Жыл бұрын
Benchmade customer service is really nice but they sucks there terrible I hope know one has to deal with them and there knifes are shit and cheaply made for how much they want for them don’t buy a Benchmade
@kellstat Жыл бұрын
sad, but Benchmade is anti-2nd ammendment. #boycottbenchmade
@kellstat Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx I respect your opinion, and I will look up this data for any understanding & knowledge of the facts. FYI, I never mentioned NRA, only 2A. And any corporation that chooses bottomline on a piece of paper, over the 2A, is no friend of America. PERIOD. It dosen't matter the reason, it's still yellow bellied Cowardice.
@kellstat Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx ps. That is a real sketchy statement with, saying the NRA has done ALL or absolutely 100% NOTHING. you can tell when a statement is probably not true, with all those , always, 100%, every, all the time, etc... our Rights Trump everything else(specifically refers to bogus "laws". Thanks for your comment.
@kellstat Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx I looked it up. Saying you are in support of the 2A, but yet providing free of charge, with no issues, destroying guns, is not supporting 2a. PERIOD. If you are so clueless to just believe what someone says over their opposite actions, well I think there's some SS who would say the same... anything to protect that bottom line; ie. Target, A-B, your buddy Garth Brooks...... their called Communist. There is a difference.
@kellstat Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx I looked it up. I saw. I read. I listen. I just stated facts. If someone came to your business and asked if you would destroy 2a products, so that No One could ever you use them, what would you tell them Sir ? And thank you...
@kellstat Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx and FYI, if you don't realize that it all comes from all directions, esp elite, but than who is really responsible, if We The People, have ourselves to blame...