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Why Bishop Barron Gets It Wrong About Karma: A Hindu Review

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Swami Revatikaanta

Swami Revatikaanta

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Today we're introducing a new format to Swami Revatikaanta's KZfaq Channel alongside the already successful podcast *Thinking Bhakti*.
In the religious dialogue landscape, there is undoubtedly a clear absence of authentic Hindu representation. Swami Revatikaanta will introduce the Hindu voice into that landscape, responding to various personalities and correcting various misrepresentations of Hinduism.
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@DharmaSpeaks
@DharmaSpeaks 7 ай бұрын
Excellent, thoughtful and respectful critique.
@Ejcze
@Ejcze 7 ай бұрын
Wow, you're still active, will you return to making videos?
@rachmann516
@rachmann516 7 ай бұрын
Agreed. Actually the Bishop is wrong with respect to karma in the teachings of Jesus who said: "As you sow, so shall you reap". Jesus was referring to the law of cause and effect-karma.
@rachmann516
@rachmann516 7 ай бұрын
And I agree, karma is not a religious doctrine. So, there are no karmic religions.
@pmaitrasm
@pmaitrasm Ай бұрын
@@rachmann516, Not Jesus, it was Saint Paul.
@rachmann516
@rachmann516 Ай бұрын
You are correct. Thank you.
@merylenechitharai
@merylenechitharai 7 ай бұрын
Nice busting these religious myths or dogmas in a respectful and knowledgeable way. Nice one Swami Revitikaanta.
@ArieH2012
@ArieH2012 7 ай бұрын
Brilliantly outlined. Thanks a lot for this, Swamiji. This is very helpful, even after having left Christianity for such a long time! It helps a lot in order to be able to explain my choice of religion, so to speak, to the people of my Christian background 🙏🙏
@shivamgupta5412
@shivamgupta5412 6 ай бұрын
I am from india(u.p) , Your view on Hinduism is so clear.🙏🙏हरे कृष्ण ❤
@hellerart
@hellerart 7 ай бұрын
Yes I totally agree from the bottom of my haert. I often felt "wrong" as kid just not being able to accept the Jesus Story as told, because of this depedency on only him and little sense and logic why killing God's son should solve anything at all for humanity. Only later I learned most peopel just don't think much about these deep questions. I was long lost as a child and in my youth, struggeling with christianity and becoming atheist with math and physics in school. But Around 16 I found back to buddhistic meditation which I could accept back then. Later I became Sevaka and have been studying the Bhagavad Gita and Vedanta very much, that make so much more sense. After discovering the Gospel of Thomas I am very sure Hell is just an invention and Jesus was actually a Guru, teaching the way to the "kingdom of heaven", that is already "in us and around us" and can NOT be found in the future, which after body death would be. So in the Gospel of Thomas Jesus actually tells the Kingdom of Heaven is a spiritual realm, probably exactly the same as Moksha. In the Gospel of Thomas there is even a verse that can easily be interpreted as reincarnation: You are proud of your current "images/appearance", but how much will you be able to bear, when the "images" you have been before you became rise to the surface. To me that sounds like former lives. After studying the Gospel of Thomas, that really resonated with the bottom of my haert, I came to the conclusion, that Jesus taught enlightment and his teaching was altered by church to make money with the sales of indulges and build a world empire. So to my understanding that leads to the confusing fact that church is contrary to what Jesus actually taught. I don't know whether Jesus was an Avatar or enlightened Master, but I know for sure he taught in harmony with the vedas and much was changed...
@toritempo
@toritempo 7 ай бұрын
This video format is very needed and greatly appreciated. Well done! I'm looking forward to more videos like this. A response to some of the top atheist philosophers would be very interesting.
@blueblue333
@blueblue333 7 ай бұрын
This is kind. The depth of insight that Swami REVATIKAANTA shares; is like clean water on dry ground... This is the first time I listened to this man speak. thank you
@aaradhakananda
@aaradhakananda 7 ай бұрын
Amazing, Swamiji! Hope to get more and more of this type of videos!
@joancasper1033
@joancasper1033 7 ай бұрын
Bravo. What truths. Grateful ❤
@ShriramjaiRam-ox5kn
@ShriramjaiRam-ox5kn 7 ай бұрын
So wonderful I amazed by the depth of your study
@elenamyuller8494
@elenamyuller8494 7 ай бұрын
Jay Gurudev, Swami Revatikanta. Thank you for your new video. So many people are tapping in the darkness with understanding Hinduism. You commentary is Brilliant, intelligent and right to the point. Thank you very much. ❤
@sandrazarate5023
@sandrazarate5023 7 ай бұрын
Jai Gurudev, Swami. Thank you for this video. Not only do you help to enrich our knowledge but also teaching respect and professionalism by example. More videos like this will be very much appreciated. ❤
@OnTheBrightSide123
@OnTheBrightSide123 5 ай бұрын
Forgive me Swami for I have sinned in what I have done and what I have failed to do and I ask all the angels and saints and you and my brothers and sisters to pray for me.
@carolin2016
@carolin2016 7 ай бұрын
Gostei bastante. Acho extremamente necessário esse tipo de vídeo.
@robertgrundhever3961
@robertgrundhever3961 7 ай бұрын
Very well explained, thank you for these videos!
@adrianavitzileou5198
@adrianavitzileou5198 7 ай бұрын
Jai Shiv Omkara!
@RamasyaDasosmyaham
@RamasyaDasosmyaham 7 ай бұрын
I learned so much from this. Dhanyavāda, swāmiji! 🙏🏽
@sayantanbiswas5824
@sayantanbiswas5824 7 ай бұрын
Wow , hope present day us will understand our dharma in this clearity !!! I believe Krishna and kali is same , the sakti , with union will bramhan , Sakti manifests itself with thousands way in this sensory world , thus we have infinite possibilities of expressing divinity , if we first awake the sakti with in .
@krishnaats7141
@krishnaats7141 Ай бұрын
Not Kali. But Kalki
@unicornplus4444
@unicornplus4444 6 ай бұрын
my dream to meet u one day,, m from uttrakhand............. i m ur devotee since i saw ur theatre video on pundalik, i love that act nd whenever i m feel low , i always looked for those videos.... and today video is also OP,,,,,full of knowledge
@ronaldvillacis592
@ronaldvillacis592 7 ай бұрын
El enfoque del canal es espectacular, de estudio, pero abierto a la comprensión, y sobre todo práctica de toda persona. gracias Swami. Jai Gurudev.
@ShriramjaiRam-ox5kn
@ShriramjaiRam-ox5kn 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this wonderful video
@yassworld_
@yassworld_ 7 ай бұрын
Great video Swami ❤ I would like to add: Karma is also Grace in itself. Because it’s divinely designed mechanism allows us to retain our god given divinity and remain intact from the inside, in our truest self our Atman regardless of our actions , good or bad in this world, until we attain god realization whether in the current life or in many.
@OrichalcumHammer
@OrichalcumHammer 7 ай бұрын
Karma is not Grace and hence it is not superior. There can be a random accident which was not part of your Karma.
@vikramgurung3043
@vikramgurung3043 7 ай бұрын
​@@OrichalcumHammerDon't know your grace..but karma in morden sense what you do get good or bad.ex..if you drink alco..hurt your liver ..so if you hit other he hits back..this is modern sense.. spiritually that's other realms..you know when you delve in it..just criticism..is naaa
@OrichalcumHammer
@OrichalcumHammer 7 ай бұрын
@@vikramgurung3043 Karma in the traditional sense gives you the perception that just because you saved someone's life you will be getting some good reward for it in coming days but it so happens that that person who saved someone gets hit by a car. Hence I said Grace is superior.
@trollarasan
@trollarasan Ай бұрын
@@OrichalcumHammer grace in the traditional Eastern sense doesn't work without karma. So no chosen tribe or people to receive grace.
@OrichalcumHammer
@OrichalcumHammer Ай бұрын
@@trollarasan Again Grace is superior than Karma. I don't believe in chosen tribe nonsense because that god Yahweh and his covenant was made null void when Roman soldiers defeated them thrice and if you see it from a religious war perspective which was actually seen and understood by the then 'chosen people', their god yahweh was killed by Romans in 135CE. BTW Romans being polytheists didn't see it as a religious war for them it was part of expanding the Empire as commanded by the Emperor.
@jonathanvansetten9935
@jonathanvansetten9935 7 ай бұрын
Wha beautiful explaned. Love will overome everything and reveil our deepest nature, being a part of Gods Love, when we are ready to offer our 'lower' self to God and His Love of Grace, being embrased in who we trully are - in Him
@GauravSharma-gb7ku
@GauravSharma-gb7ku 7 ай бұрын
love the new format Swamiji,Jai Gurudev
@prasantabehera433
@prasantabehera433 7 ай бұрын
Great teaching swami ji. A western hindu can teach property the western people about Hinduism.
@carinaa5744
@carinaa5744 7 ай бұрын
Very nice this new format! It really allows us to go deeper in the concepts in comparison with different traditions.
@blueblue333
@blueblue333 7 ай бұрын
This is kind. Thank you for your clarity . I learned alot....within different levels of depth ...we can raise each other up.
@RamSingh-wc1tn
@RamSingh-wc1tn 6 ай бұрын
Hare Krishna brother
@TheConduit10
@TheConduit10 7 ай бұрын
The christian idea of compassion , sympathy & pity is a backhanded Bad idea , because what these idea's actually do , while purporting to be pure , There are actually dark , because they actually bring about a Depression into the world , and when there's a Depression - Evil follows right behind it.
@MedSlate
@MedSlate 7 ай бұрын
Depression is a good control mechanism.
@blanktrigger8863
@blanktrigger8863 7 ай бұрын
And yet India is one of the most miserable nations in the world and still maintains a caste system. Stop the armchair psychology and seriously ask why your superior religion has produced an inferior people as opposed to a superior people.
@arjyachatterjee6874
@arjyachatterjee6874 Ай бұрын
​@@blanktrigger8863 Like racism and ethnic separatism don't exist in your Christian nations and India is a secular nation, not a Hindu country where Hindus cannot own their own temples and religious institutions. Study with full data rather than barking your evangelical propaganda and talk about your great casta system or realm of estates in Latin America or France. Or please tell how your superior merciful religion treats Romanis in Eastern Europe who are of Indian Doma caste origin and fled India because of Islamic invasions.
@abhinavsingh7539
@abhinavsingh7539 9 күн бұрын
exceelent , am a hindu and your explanation is truly good and simple to understand thanks
@verazonova4269
@verazonova4269 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant 🔥
@Myriamnathalie888
@Myriamnathalie888 7 ай бұрын
This Vision of Life is in alignment of what resonates within myself and of what i'm reading in The Srimad Bhagavatam & in The Bhagavad Gita. It is fundamental at the present time, before speaking, writing or revealing truth(s), in this case spiritual, especially when we have an influence on others, to Know by Getting The Right Information and to also Know through Experience & by Being in The Company of Beings who Embody All These Divine Truths Thank You Swamiji ❤❤❤
@seek695
@seek695 7 ай бұрын
God has to be understood as omniscient omnipotent and omnipresent If we put our efforts in this direction then the truth of god reveals in us
@freddykrueger8759
@freddykrueger8759 7 ай бұрын
😮God is One according to the Hindus just millions of names to Express that one creator😊
@seek695
@seek695 7 ай бұрын
Not one but thje only one reality All what we see and experience is its mgnificence
@user-mq9fs1wf4w
@user-mq9fs1wf4w 7 ай бұрын
being a hindu i can confirm this is True... GOD is one but we call him by many names
@thakurhumagain2104
@thakurhumagain2104 7 ай бұрын
It is a must watch video to get clear and true understanding of Hinduisim.
@rajeevmanick
@rajeevmanick 7 ай бұрын
Jai Gurudev 🙏🙏 well explained ❤
@ThelastSparrow
@ThelastSparrow 7 ай бұрын
Hare Krishna Swami Ji. 🙏🕉
@uranianastrology
@uranianastrology 7 ай бұрын
Very nice idea 💡 Keep on Swamiji
@VSM101
@VSM101 7 ай бұрын
Stright to the point.
@nakulgote
@nakulgote 7 ай бұрын
The Bishop says that Karmic consequences are delayed. That’s not true. Every karma affects your psyche immediately. Only the effects coming from the feedbacks from the world-system are delayed (obviously) and will be met with in this life, while unresolved effects will be met in the next life.
@anetavaid5485
@anetavaid5485 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting Thank you very much. I learnt a lot
@satyakishorejoga7607
@satyakishorejoga7607 7 ай бұрын
thank you
@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc
@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc 7 ай бұрын
He paints that on every day
@alinstate
@alinstate 7 ай бұрын
Excellent
@supersheffieldroorkee
@supersheffieldroorkee 10 күн бұрын
OM NAMOH NARAYAN, DHANYAWAAD
@harishchand1008
@harishchand1008 7 ай бұрын
fire 🔥🔥🔥
@shrutimishra252
@shrutimishra252 Ай бұрын
Excellent analysis
@miriamrosendichu
@miriamrosendichu 7 ай бұрын
Personal responsibility is the part we have to play in the grand play, whereas Grace is the part God has to & plays in the same grand play...this seems pretty automated to me no matter which side of the divide. In this grand play we both (God & us) agreed to take part. Beliefs play as much a role as they do in defining the reality of gravity.
@emmaevans5779
@emmaevans5779 7 ай бұрын
Kripa
@pmaitrasm
@pmaitrasm 7 ай бұрын
Correct. “He who shall not work, let him not eat.” - Saint Paul to his disciples in Thessaloniki. Karma in a nutshell.
@nobody..8040
@nobody..8040 6 ай бұрын
Wow… well explained…
@BishalNath
@BishalNath 7 ай бұрын
Swami Ji Doing Excellent PURBAPAKSHA , Subscribed the Channel ❤
@atulyadas9571
@atulyadas9571 7 ай бұрын
Jai Gurudev Smamiji, Thank you very much for this information and this subject, which is far too rare for me. There are some evangelical Christians who believe that recognizing Christ has some merit because it motivates one to imitate Christ in his teachings. Their goal is to be inspired by Christ to “become” in Christ. Moreover, after their baptism as adults, their new identity is Christ, a bit like us when we receive our Ishtadev. I think for Christians there is this mixed feeling of being a Christian out of fear of themselves and of God and out of Love of Christ. I look forward to other videos on these subjects (Christian and Hindu), for example: Among the evangelists there are spectacular healings thanks to the presence of the Holy Spirit, how can we make a link and explain this to 'a Vaishnava point of view?. THANKS
@MedSlate
@MedSlate 7 ай бұрын
Evangelical spectacular healing? Humbug stage managed shows. See a movie called Trance available on OTT. A means to leverage exploitation. How do you think those pastors became millionaires & billionaires?
@atulyadas9571
@atulyadas9571 7 ай бұрын
@@MedSlate This film seems to be fiction (I will watch thanks). Nevertheless, you are facing the same trial that we suffer as Hindus from Chrétien. There are as many false pastors as there are false Gurus who are controlled by their ego. My brother is an evangelist and when we discuss the Bible, I sometimes feel the Shakti rising in me, it is called the presence of the holy spirit and it is not just Trance,
@OrichalcumHammer
@OrichalcumHammer 7 ай бұрын
There was a Indian-American Hindu family who converted to Christianity because they just wanted to save their child. The pastor did a live show but the child di ed due to the disease. It is available on youtube.
@himanv
@himanv 6 ай бұрын
Even the Old Testament of Christianity (Hebrew Bible?) has books with quotes that essentially say that one's own sin and good deeds apply to oneself and not to others. It's still only one life belief, but at least you don't get punished for someone else's sin in the eye of their god! For example: 2 Kings 14:6 But he did not put to death the children of the murderers, according to what is written in the Book of the Law of Moses, where the Lord commanded, r“Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. But each one shall die for his own sin.” Deuteronomy 24:16 “Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin. etc. As you pointed out, the "original sin" doctrine seems to be much later, after Jesus's birth and death, and was probably meant as a spiritual bribe for the sake of conversion of the masses. It's not even clear whether Jesus himself came to "save" the whole humanity or only the "chosen people of Israel." In the gospel of Matthew, at 15:23-28, a gentile woman keeps beseeching Jesus to help her sick daughter with a miracle cure, and Jesus says that he was only sent to care for the chosen people, and that it's not right to help others-- even going so far as comparing her with a stray dog! So it would appear that the business of a global mission was a later production-- and we see that Paul (Saul of Tarsus) shaped much of what became the Christian bible since his letters form a big chunk of the compilation book. So then, is it even "Christianity" anymore, or is it "Paulanity"? Would love to see some insights from you about these things, if you can provide it. Many Hindu sants and sampradayas have long taken an inward stance and not sought to see the other religions and their tenets critically, choosing to instead paper over the whole thing by making blanket statements such as "all paths lead to god" etc. But you and your lineage seems to do more of a deep dive and analyze others from a Sanatan lens, or at least I hope so! Thank you! Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.” 24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” 25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said. 26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.” 27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.” 28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.
@SahilSura-yq4ds
@SahilSura-yq4ds 27 күн бұрын
Karma is basically one's input in the universal algorithm, this whole world interacts to form that algorithm as simple as that and one has to follow one's dharma while doing his karm( work or input ) so that this algorithm remains in postive side for the humanity and that's the teachings of Hinduism. As simple as that. Every living being is bounded by the laws of karma meaning even if u are not acting ( doing anything not only physically but not even thinking about anything) u are doing your karm and that karm is your input in the universal algorithm or the universe itself. so karma is not just action and reaction. Correct me if my wrong 😅
@AnthonyKladitis
@AnthonyKladitis 3 ай бұрын
Heart transformation > behavioral modification.
@user-vu4hn7bl1q
@user-vu4hn7bl1q 5 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@laurencemarie6550
@laurencemarie6550 7 ай бұрын
Merci pour cette Clarté point par point qui permet d échanger autour de nous aussi : un seul "regret" Swami , vous parlez tellement vite que parfois cela devient inaccessible aux personnes qui ne parlent pas bien ou pas bien du tout l anglais ! Et c est tellement dommage
@MedSlate
@MedSlate 7 ай бұрын
Please go to the video options & choose a slower speed for easier listening if unfamiliar with English.
@laurencemarie6550
@laurencemarie6550 7 ай бұрын
@@MedSlate Thanks for your attention . I do that but "ce serait vraiment bien" car 0.75 est encore rapide et 0.50 la voix est vraiment déformée " et ce n est pas "agreable" et prend le double de temps ! Merci , Belle journée, Just Love
@SanuJose1273
@SanuJose1273 7 ай бұрын
Nope. Gods forgiveness does not excuse man of responsibility. The mans repentance precedes forgiveness, and one of the signs of genuine repentance is making reparitions. The thief will be forgiven by the ever-merciful God's free grace - but he still needs to return the booty.
@blanktrigger8863
@blanktrigger8863 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. And given that the New Testament is easy to read, and Paul speaks against hyper grace as early as Romans, he should have known this. Yet he still makes the claim.
@pavanSingh-ts5ym
@pavanSingh-ts5ym 5 ай бұрын
Panddith Mail N Chukee Jae Vaedh Parrai Jug Chaar || O Pandit, O religious scholar, your filth shall not be erased, even if you read the Vedas for four ages. ਸੋਰਠਿ ਵਾਰ (ਮਃ ੪) (੧੩) ਸ. (੩) ੧:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੬੪੭ ਪੰ. ੧੦ Raag Sorath Guru Amar Das
@AdithiaKusno
@AdithiaKusno 9 күн бұрын
Can you do a film review on Netflix's Maharaj?
@psroutine7132
@psroutine7132 7 ай бұрын
11:20 U get nothing that u don't deserve. Amd no one gives u that, no one judges u. Its the law of prakriti. U get exactly what u deserve good or bad, abd in the exact amount. Not more or less
@SanuJose1273
@SanuJose1273 7 ай бұрын
Grace is freely given - and comes first - but man still needs to cooperate with it. Search for "cooperating with grace" to understand the many simple mistakes of this video. Or think of it this way - God is a like a helicoper pilot who desires to land on a messy landing spot (i.e. the human). That desire is Grace, its His initiative and its free and the landing spot undeserving. But the human needs to clean up the landing spot of all dirt and weeds for the helicopter to land. Thats cooperating with Grace.
@MetaPixel7
@MetaPixel7 7 ай бұрын
How does one go about cleaning their landing spot? What does that practically mean in someone's life?
@SanuJose1273
@SanuJose1273 7 ай бұрын
Sincere attempts to practice the virtues and shun the vices. Prayers for the grace to be able to do it. aka "cooperation to the Grace"@@MetaPixel7
@seek695
@seek695 7 ай бұрын
But god is omnipresent So he is everywhere He is in everyone of us So dont need to prepare a landing site to receive him
@SanuJose1273
@SanuJose1273 7 ай бұрын
@@seek695 He is omnipresent. But He also gave man free will. Which means man is free to accept Him in his heart - or reject him (that rejection is, btw, called Hell). So, yes we need to will the good and take action - need to prepare.
@MedSlate
@MedSlate 7 ай бұрын
And only Jesus can bestow that Grace? Tell that to hundreds of millions of people slaughtered in the name of this religion.
@psroutine7132
@psroutine7132 7 ай бұрын
25:47 A criminal talks like that😅
@WamuyuGatheru
@WamuyuGatheru 7 ай бұрын
In a sense what Christianity means by 'all are fallen' is all are born with karma. Christianity needs a new Avatar, another Jesus Christ to refresh the teaching. In the meantime, anyone who wears religious clothes of any kind needs to adopt humility. We are seeking to understand the infinite mind of God. The fact that one does not know something, does not understand it or agree with it does not mean it doesn't exist or it isn't true.
@MedSlate
@MedSlate 7 ай бұрын
Sorry sir, but Christianity specifically mentions that sin is inherited from Adam & Eve. There's no concept of karma essential to explain the different status right from birth. Why do innocent children suffer cancer? Is God cruel? The biblical God certainly is.
@pmaitrasm
@pmaitrasm 7 ай бұрын
​@@MedSlate, That is just an opinion. No one really knows why people suffer. People suffer everywhere and in all religions.
@MedSlate
@MedSlate 7 ай бұрын
@@pmaitrasm yes, people of all religions suffer, but only Indic religions have an EXPLANATION for the suffering.
@KrinavantuViswamaryam
@KrinavantuViswamaryam 6 ай бұрын
Karmafal siddanta from eternal VEDAS. IF YOU WANT destroy Semitic believers or any believers other than sanatan dharm...with proper debate.. only with Vedas (please approch ARYA SAMAJ) namaste Om
@loveiseternal108
@loveiseternal108 4 ай бұрын
No one should say they know God unless the know God truly. Talking about gurudev or ishtadev should only be to relate and grow not to assume. I made this mistake myself. For the church Jesus parables should be studied without saying one knows Jesus. Even Jesus explained sadhana and karma with the seed story. The one who sows seed on the rocks will grow but it will die soon after the one who sows seeds on the thorns will not grow at all and the one who sows the seed on the good soil will grow fully. The purification of the mind, sadhana, and karma yoga decides what type of "farmer" you are. Jesus never said my grace means you won't have consequences at all for your wrongs. He said the one who exalts himself will be humbled and the one who humbles himself will be exalted. Krishna says the same. If you follow me O Arjuna you will transcend the mind's landscape of good and bad. Jesus came to a place where massive amounts of people were stuck in black and white thinking so of course he had to speak in parables and contrasts of good and bad because he was so humble he brought himself to the level of man to relate to the people. This does not mean that Jesus was man nor at the level of a man. He was and is the transcendental christ and many new age Christians fail to see this by casting their ego onto the one who they have called savior. "Jesus is not a washing machine" - gurudev . Jesus is immaculate and instead of the church philosophizing him they should praise his name more often. Jesus name alone holds enough wisdom and power. Jai gurudev.
@loveiseternal108
@loveiseternal108 4 ай бұрын
Only gurus and saints truly know God. But we only have glimpses of the vastness of love
@valerievalerie2867
@valerievalerie2867 Ай бұрын
Ufffff🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️
@NoThing-ec9km
@NoThing-ec9km Ай бұрын
What? Why?
@kailash9566
@kailash9566 7 ай бұрын
So the vaishnavite perspective that you adhere To is seen by you a human being as more ‘correct ‘ than for Example This Bishop. From my experience with a Personal talk with the Dalai Lama He said karma Is far too complicated to speak To. So these perceptions or Concepts for sure cannot speak to grace or karma So best unless you are a realized Being leave this Truth to them. One is a Realized Being in Not Especially just speaking as a vaishnavite can you Speak to the Truth of Karma Or grace so thanks For your attempt. This is a subject Best left to realized beings Who For Sure won’t speak to it
@AYUSHMISHRA-zr4rc
@AYUSHMISHRA-zr4rc 7 ай бұрын
Who said only realized can talk the truth of Karma. He is not giving his opinions, he is giving references from texts as well. Just because something is too complicated does not mean you should not try to simplify and understand it. If everyone starts doing what you say then no one will be realized. Just step out of your intelligent complexion that you are in because you are not able to appreciate the knowledge of the Bhagavadgita that he is simplifying and telling us. Or else Karma is always teaching people.
@vivacristorey4363
@vivacristorey4363 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate you explaining that Hinduism teaches both grace and karma. I learned a lot on this topic from you. However, as soon as you started to speak in comparison between the two religions you said many things about the Christian faith that are untrue. It might have been better to simply explain why Bishop Barron was wrong about that particular thing he said by using your own religious texts. But as soon as you began to point out perceived faults in Christianity's beliefs, you ended up committing the same ignorance that accused Bishop Barron of doing. You yourself used the words "bad", "negative", etc... when addressing that it is not about bad, good, evil, or anything personal. Semantics. Also, after mentioning that you should not speak much about what you don't understand, you in this video misunderstand the teachings of Catholicism - claiming that we are all terrible and therefore should be afraid. That is simplistic - especially to call it harmful or to say that we believe that we are incapable of doing something to fix our life. You are actually speaking of Calvanistic philosophy rather than Catholicism. Everyone gets enough grace to get to heaven (if they wish), while some are given extra graces to do more. But if those extra graces are abused they end up worse off - and that is why God is the best judge of who to give them to. The extra grace is fair because those who are given more have more expected of them. Those who don't make good use of small graces would not make use of more graces and they would be worse off. So yes, God chooses, but we trust that since God is love that His reasons for choosing His elect are just. We also believe in cause and effect, that we reap what we so. In that sense, there is a similarity. We believe that grace builds upon nature. Much of what you said on the topic of our Christian faith is based off of a short video of a learned bishop. This is not fair, considering that Catholicism has 2000 years of writings about grace and predestination. In other words, the good bishop is being simplistic on purpose to make a principle since he knows the video is short - putting all his learned theology into a ten minute video. There is more in depth stuff such as all the writings of St Thomas Aquinas which Bishop Barron is familiar with. Likewise, your claim that Bishop Barron is afraid is bearing false witness. Our religion teaches that love conquers all fear. Fear is the first step to seek God but it doesn't mean that the saints fear God rather than love and trust Him in confidence. It is a strange accusation since Bishop Barron doesn't give even a hint of fear in his expression. Your explanation of Catholicism's understanding of original sin by Augustinian theology is a strawman argument. Original sin and actual sin are seen as entirely different. Your thoughts about the Christian God being unfair are based on - as you mentioned early on in the video - ignorance. I would suggest you research the Christian faith more before trying to explain it. The reason we believe it is fair, is because God is all knowing and we are not. Those who don't repent in 100 years are not going to repent in 1000. The shorter life is an act of mercy to prevent the bad from becoming worse. It would be very interesting to see you do a panel discussion with Bishop Barron.
@pmaitrasm
@pmaitrasm 7 ай бұрын
He actually quoted Bishop Barron who seems to be seeking grace of God. The Swami says the Bishop has led a righteous life, so he has earned it. The Swami is being charitable in saying that Bishop Barron, by virtue of leading a righteous life, as earned, and is worthy of the reward of grace. The Bishop, on his part, is being humble in seeking the grace of God, even after leading a righteous life. Both are good in their own ways. Hope you find my explanation reasonable. 🙏
@NoThing-ec9km
@NoThing-ec9km Ай бұрын
There is no christian God, there is just God and christian interpretation of God. God is universal.
@NoThing-ec9km
@NoThing-ec9km Ай бұрын
Shorter life don't give u another chance, but according to Hinduism U have infinite chances. also it doesn't become worse until u keep making it worse urself. it actually gets better every life.
@vivacristorey4363
@vivacristorey4363 Ай бұрын
@@pmaitrasm I understand what you are saying. But that does not change the fact that the man in the video bore false witness against Bishop Barron and committed the same ignorance that he accused the bishop of. He likewise bore false witness against what the Catholic Church actually teaches.
@vivacristorey4363
@vivacristorey4363 Ай бұрын
@@NoThing-ec9km You misunderstand. By "Christian God" I do not mean that God is a Christian. I use the term to be clear that I am speaking of God from a Christian perspective. Yes, Christianity has an interpretation of God just as Hinduism does. That is not in question. But as Christians, we believe our religion to be true and see it as divinely revealed/given to us by God Himself throughout history. We disagree with any interpretation of God that contradicts the sound doctrine handed down to us, unchanging, from Christ Himself. When you say that God is universal, I suppose it depends what you mean as definitions matter. He is in everything but He also transcends everything. I don't think I would call that universal. His love for His creation, and for mankind in particular, is certainly universal - but even there He favours those who return that love. Your statement about reincarnation seems to contradict itself. You said that each life gets better, but before that said it gets worse if you make it worse. Which is it? I understand what Hinduism teaches about reincarnation. But, with all due respect to those who hold such teachings sacred, I must reject it for two reasons. The first reason is that I reject it by faith, since my religion tells me that it is false. The second reason is that I don't find reincarnation to be logical. Are people always reincarnated as people? If not, then how would they use reason to make moral choices since animals and plants have not the ability to reason? If people have no memory of their previous life then how can they be penitent in the next? Infinite chances makes the present life sound meaningless. And it actually sounds terrifying rather than consoling. Why? Because I love those I have met and the wisdom that by God's grace has been granted. Yet all of that would mean nothing if I give it all up for infinity. That would literally be Hell - with one exception, that I would not even know why I was suffering. Punishment only matters if you perceive the reason. Considering that the majority of people choose the easy path, the chances of someone choosing the right path eventually just because of an infinite amount of opportunities is unrealistic. In fact, the more chances given, the more chances that someone would actually just degrade further and further. Infinite chances diminishes the meaning mortality of this life. Reincarnation, in the sense of the immortal human soul being reborn as many times as it needs to find salvation, is not backed up by reason or science.
@wissenschaftkraft5075
@wissenschaftkraft5075 7 ай бұрын
This guy misunderstands Christianity as much, if not more than, he claims Bishop Barron misreads Hinduism."
@jayma1008
@jayma1008 7 ай бұрын
It would be very much appreciated if you wanted to explain it in more detail. Will you, please? Thank you and have a most blessed day.
@VSM101
@VSM101 7 ай бұрын
you cant even explain your disagreement but he explains why the bishop is wrong
@NoThing-ec9km
@NoThing-ec9km Ай бұрын
Lol that's not how u refute someone.
@mariasteeves6126
@mariasteeves6126 7 ай бұрын
You’ve named this show ”Why bishop Barron gets it wrong about karma” but I would say “ your interpretation of Bishop Barron and Christianity is wrong” you are twisting his words to come up with your own interpretation to satisfy and make fit yours religious view. Hebrews 9:27 says people are destined to die once, and after that face judgement. Simply put grace is God’s help and “our free will” with his grace determines the outcome, heaven or hell.
@shashankkumar311
@shashankkumar311 7 ай бұрын
He can say the same you guys misinterpreting Sanatan Dharma (Hinduism)
@vantascuriosity4540
@vantascuriosity4540 7 ай бұрын
Firstly, He didn't Interpret Bishop Barron in any wrong way, he mentioned many times that he respects him and sees him as a good figure in Christianity and has also mentioned that he has done a lot of good deeds and is genuinely a good guy. Secondly, He didn't twist anything, watch the video, he responds carefully, clearly and attentively to Bishop Barron's understanding and corrects what he gets wrong, nothing was twisted at all and if you feel like something was indeed twisted I would like you to point exactly where that would be the case, you can put the timestamp as a reply to my comment or edit it into your message.
@CyrilYoutube
@CyrilYoutube 7 ай бұрын
Reincarnation does exist among the first christians, there are texts which testify to this. It's only after centuries that they decided to change the doctrine. And from the hebrews which had their knowledge from the past prophets sent by God (Isaac, Abraham, Jacob, Moses...), there is the Gilgul haNeshamot concept, which is about reincarnation cycle.
@pedjaley3210
@pedjaley3210 7 ай бұрын
You didnt really listen to the explanations did you? So much prejudice without analysing the presuppositions.
@jayma1008
@jayma1008 7 ай бұрын
It would be very nice to read more about your point of view. How do you hear/interpret Bishop Barron's expression regarding Karma? Thank you in advance. I think it is time to get to know God's Nature, which is "Unconditional Love" far deeper and thus we should engage in Healing our misperceptions and communicate with respect and Love as being one family.
@harvestingnow1571
@harvestingnow1571 7 ай бұрын
I won’t guess to understand your religion when I’m mostly ignorant in that area. I will however, comment on the Christian beliefs if I may expound a bit. The Bishop is a Catholic and he’s a Christian yes such as myself. I heard you mention Christians believe this or that. Not all Christians believe for instance that God will just allow Christians into heaven for the sake of calling themselves Christians and have been baptized. That’s a Protestant belief, NOT AT ALL CATHOLIC!! We believe that we can GET GRACE BY GETTING SACRAMENTS A sacrament is an instrument given to us by Jesus that gives us grace. We believe Jesus life and death and then His Resurrection OPENED THE GATES ONLY. THAT does NOT give us the rights to just waltz into heaven bc we were Christians on earth. We have to die in a state of Grace. We also go to spend time of purification if we’re not “Saintly” at death. We call this state of in between- Purgatory. It’s not a fun place. We can be there for lonnnnnnnnng time. Eventually tho, we know we will enter heaven after being purified there. Sin is the reason for purgatory. If we are sinners we need to be purified. 🙏
@MetaPixel7
@MetaPixel7 7 ай бұрын
Sounds complicated and vague at the same time
@harvestingnow1571
@harvestingnow1571 7 ай бұрын
@@MetaPixel7 it’s complex but simple just the same. Jesus said NoONE goes to the Father until they go thru Him first. We believe in the 4 last things at death. Death, Judgment, Heaven or Hell. ✌🏼🙏
@MetaPixel7
@MetaPixel7 7 ай бұрын
@@harvestingnow1571 what about all the people throughout history that never had a chance to hear about Jesus? Or the people today who live essentially 0 contact with the outside world and have no possibility of ever learning about Jesus. Did God create them just to go to hell?
@harvestingnow1571
@harvestingnow1571 7 ай бұрын
@@MetaPixel7 no it is said those people will not be held responsible and will be shown Who God is and then they decide if they want to be with God. I can’t understand who would Not want to be with God. I do know many people have near death experiences and love to tell about them. I believe in those you get a glimpse of the afterlife u might imagine. Others say they went to hell and were shown why they were to go there. Obviously they lived to tell about it and therefore have more time on earth to remedy that terrible fact If you could know that God ONLY consists of 3 persons in One God, you would do whatever you could to let others know so they can at least ask God to show them Himself so they too, can have the opportunity to find their way to eternal life. Finding oneself in another state of consciousness during this life thru special means is another way to experience the crossing over to eternal bliss right? If you say so. I say that’s a temporary place that you may experience but will NOT be your true destination upon death. I’ve experienced such things on this earth to know that Jesus is Our only hope of salvation We die and either go to Purgatory for a bit and then Enter into God’s Eternal Kingdom or we go directly to Hell FOREVER. I pray for All peoples to come to know Jesus Christ if possible so that they may find their way to Him in the end. We have proof of you will, by history. We have recorded all popes since the time of Jesus. Peter being the first, was Jesus’ first disciple. He and 10 others Died for Him. All their deaths happened in different places bc after Jesus died, they split up so they could spread the Good News. This Good News was that Jesus came to show us that He is Our answer to salvation. No other can help one to heaven. In fact, it’s a Mortal sin to have other (false) gods before Him. If the disciples spent time with Jesus and witnessed many miracles and saw him crucified and buried and then saw Him and talked with Him AFTER He ressurected from the dead, don’t you agree they would gladly die in His name? They were assured their places in Heaven and believed. They knew Him and loved Him. Jesus only wants Our Love and to keep His commandments such as those we know of the Natural Law, like NO MURDER. 🙏
@seek695
@seek695 7 ай бұрын
Life after death ,heaven hell ,one who struggles to reach that place ,heaven ,the explanation in bible are quiet vague For eg the terms like heaven hell ,are reallly places existing somewhere or are they experiences of some part of our self, seems more to be belief rather than facts It is therefore desirable that believers try to acquire more authentic facts if they think they have some reliability in their beliefs
@gordansojat
@gordansojat 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the presentation. We can obviously see that Bishop didn't do his homework well as he didn't try to take opportunity to learn from a Vaisnava about this concept, as they represent monotheism within Hindu belief system. I suppose he is not even aware that's the oldest monotheistic system on the planet as he's probably convinced everything Hindu is just polytheism. Which, honestly, is pretty sad. So please dear Bishop, because you keep such a big post within Catholic Church get yourself properly informed not to sound like an ignorant person I humbly beg you 🙏. Misleading people in order to prove yourself right is not making anyone a favor. Better recourse would be to have an open dialogue with Vaisnava scholars to understand the topic properly in order to give proper assessment of the dilemma and then present it in an honest unbiased manner.
@bernhildwhitworth5785
@bernhildwhitworth5785 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely - I agree! This is what’s still missing in the Catholic Church and highly qualified experts on the faith like Bishop Barron: life dialogues with experts of other religions. Personal interfaith communication is necessary to deepen our own faith and widen our understanding of the Scriptures. Eternal and universal Truth doesn’t change but our way of perception. Truth need not evolve but mind does. It depends on our will to open up to different perspectives of spirituality, overcome our fears and step out into freedom and an authentic faith, gained through personal experience and sense of discernment. 🙏✨
@MedSlate
@MedSlate 7 ай бұрын
You almost seem to imply that Vaishnavism is monotheistic in the Abrahamic sense. Nothing could be further from the truth. Mahavishnu has a whole host of divinities with him including a consort Mahalakshmi who can also be worshipped for salvation.
@abhinav1690
@abhinav1690 Ай бұрын
Namaskaram Swami Revatikaanta, It would be wonderful if you could create a video on J. Krishnamurthi and share your thoughts on his teachings. I've recently started exploring his work and find a great deal of wisdom in his words. I would appreciate hearing your perspective, and perhaps some criticism, on his philosophy.
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