Why bitless and barefoot isn't always better - retraining a racehorse.
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In this film, we introduce Diamond, the 10yo TB ex-racehorse. We also discuss bitless driving and barefoot and why they are not always the right thing for a horse. In this case, Diamond's owner was planning on using a bitless bridle as he had bad ulcers in his mouth when she first bought him. However, in our opinion the bitless bridle is not any more humane than a soft bit. We are not averse to going bitless (we have driven horses just off headcollars e.g. if they have had wolf teeth removed and therefore cannot have a bit in) but what we do not agree with is the assumption that "bitless is best".
Many people think bits are harsh and bitless won't hurt the horse, but the bitless bridle still works on pressure (on the nose, poll and cheeks instead of the mouth). In this way, it works like a pressure halter (which is thin, not thick and padded like a normal headcollar). The horse doesn't pull against it because it hurts. To use an analogy, think about carrying a heavy rucksack - if it has nice padded straps you can carry it for ages (i.e. a horse could lean into a normal headcollar and pull against the handler) but if the straps were made of thin rope it would hurt your shoulders, so you wouldn't want to carry the weight (i.e. the horse soon learns not to lean against the halter and therefore doesn't pull against the handler!) So they are not a more humane answer, they are another means of control via pressure/pain. It is the same with this bitless bridle. When the reins are pulled it squeezes the horse's nose between the crossover pieces and the noseband. Just because you are applying pressure to the nose and not the mouth, does not make this a kinder option.
We drive in soft rubber bits and do not believe that driving horses need more contact than a riding horse. Barry also explains the dangers of this bridle when in use and how easily it can be rubbed off the horse's head.
With regards to barefoot - this horse has kissing spines and although he has had treatment for it he drags his hind toes. Although he is shod, he has worn the metal away. If he had not been shod, he could have ended up lame. Horseshoes were around long before tarmac roads, and when metal was a precious commodity people would not have wasted it on horse's feet if they didn't need it. Rubber boots are not as hard-wearing and do not always provide protection where the horse needs it, plus they can rub if the horse interferes or has issues such as this horse. They are also generic sizes and are not made to fit the horse's feet like a handmade set of shoes is. Again, if horses are in light work, they may be able to go barefoot, but this does not mean that shoes are bad or that every horse can go barefoot. If this horse went barefoot while being driven, he would go lame. So the more humane option while he is in work is to shoe him with metal shoes.
Even with horses that have strong feet, metal is a harder material than hoof, so if the horse wears down a set of metal shoes like this in approximately 3 weeks, and only grows an entire new hoof capsule every 12 months, he would not be able to grow enough hoof fast enough to cope with being driven. He needs to be kept fit to help strengthen his back, and the mere task of pulling the carriage and having the weight of the vehicle to cope with will affect his way of going (i.e. pushing him going downhill which creates more friction between hoof and ground and wears it faster).
Again, we are not averse to going barefoot in principle, but for the work we do it is not an option. The assumption that using shoes is bad and that going barefoot is kinder is also a fallacy. Certainly in this case, it would be worse to let the horse continue rubbing his toes away and risk him going lame, when a set of shoes can assist while he gets fit and strengthens his muscles which will help his action behind. Also, many people blame shoes themselves for their horse's problems rather than the manner in which they have been shod - see this video about the difference in shoeing the same horse from another farrier compared to ours: • Shoeing the driving ho...
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@shelleyblondeau2205 9 жыл бұрын
It took years to grow a good hoof on my TB cross mare. She has now been barefoot successfully for about 5 years. Her entire foot was compressed from wearing shoes, but it did grow out and stopped being so brittle. I was told she just had bad feet and that was it.
@meganthomas7229 8 жыл бұрын
I'm very pro bitless but think the cross under/Dr cook design is very poor. I also couldn't help but cringe at how low that noseband was, any bitless nose should be sat above the soft cartilage and below the protruding cheek bones.
@oliviahappy4370 7 жыл бұрын
Megan Thomas I agree
@catjenk1681 6 жыл бұрын
Far to low
@tessmonro7102 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Over the years I've had a number of horses & ponies and some were bare foot. It depends on the horse's hoof, the work he has to do and the terrain he's working on. One of my daughters ponies had never been shod and had such iron hard hooves that even the blacksmith said he'd never known such hard hooves. He was fine on all surfaces and never had cracked or chipped hooves, but that is a very rare thing. My other daughter's ponies were bare-foot but we worked hard to keep them in good condition and I think their hooves strengthened over time.
@jozigirl7114 9 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you are not "politically correct". Thanks for teaching us so much.
@scarletpeoni9347 8 жыл бұрын
+JoziGirl I'm glad we agree on something XD :P
@oliviahappy4370 7 жыл бұрын
JoziGirl shoes are not a good thing it makes the hoof collect dirt and cost a lot. It is a lot better to just trim the hooves. No matter what bit u put in a horses it's going to hurt. That bitless bridle has no release. He is right it causes pain but that is no reason not to use a rope halter that gives release and a direct pull
@madelinewhitledge106 5 жыл бұрын
You put the bit less bridle in the wrong place
@silverkitty2503 5 жыл бұрын
its fitted wrong
@KaregoAt 8 жыл бұрын
Shoeing a horse like that is a bit off a tricky situation. You absolutely need some kind of shoes when he drags his hoof like that, but a traditional metal shoe will deprive the hoof of all shock absorption it would provide unshod, which is especially important of he is being driven on hard surfaces, roads etc. With his back already problematic any extra stress on the joints will reflect there too. I would probably use boots or a "softer" shoe on the horse. Tricky situation indeed. I hope the horse is well!
@KaregoAt 8 жыл бұрын
Linda Maria de la Rosa Thank you! Going barefoot is always a good option if the horse has sound feet and hooves, with all horses I know that have gone barefoot it has changed them for the better. Of course some of them have too soft hooves for example and will wear them down too fast without shoes, so some compromises have to be made. But for most horses it is a good alternative!
@denelll.bennettsurvivorwar8224 4 жыл бұрын
*I would use the rubber horseshoe ‘tennis shoes’👟 🐎 ! I Really Enjoy the Rubber Bits!*
@YukisNation 8 жыл бұрын
This particular bitless bridle was adjusted and buckled wrong. The nose band is meant to be higher on the horses nose, anywhere from two to four fingers up from the corner of the horses mouth depending on your preference and the horses head size and shape. And the nose band also meant to be buckled very snugly, not able to loosely fit fingers under it. This is because the cross under design can pull the nose band up the horses nose when the reins are pulled and once it's too high will take away all the "power" you're supposed to get from it. Some are designed with a proper throat latch or one can be easily added with a long strip of leather and a buckle. Not the best bitless bridle out there but I say it's still way better than a curb or twisted wire bit.
@shatteredcrystals4539 8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@kristymarriner8403 9 жыл бұрын
I have to say I enjoyed watching this clip and hearing the point of view. I am a Barefoot and bitless owner, BUT I concur with everything that is said here and I know many will think that strange. However, the point of being barefoot and bitless is more than just ditching the gear and hoping for the best, it is about using what you need for each horse as an idividual but not until after you have gone right back through their training and given them the tools to be able to do more with less. That cross under bridle and all like it should be binned, they never give release and that one was so poorly fitted it had me screaming. But if your horse requires you to have constant contact regardless of what you use you are going to be causing pain. So teach the horse to work on a loose rein and you then avoid the pain you can cause, but with that they MUST get release when you are not asking anything. As for the shoes, personally I would use hoof boots on this horse until such time as the growth and corrections to the cause can be made. But the point is, as was said here, for this horse those shoes are the less of 2 evils. So thankyou for caring about the horse, and thank you for putting thought into everything you do, that is truely what being a steward of the horse is all about.
@pphedup 4 жыл бұрын
Shoeless would be OK If York were always ridden on soft surfaces maybe. But on a ROAD????
@MsEssmess Жыл бұрын
The performance of your horses speaks for itself about your training methods . Thanks for sharing.
@bshwebb 10 жыл бұрын
I use a Zilco flower hackamore for driving as my mare seems so much happier without even a rubber bit in her mouth. She is very light in it and I use very little pressure on the reins. I am, however, aware of how much pressure I could use and I am sure I could hurt her if I wasn't sensitive with my rein use. I also drive barefoot... BUT... I only drive her for about 4 or 5 hours a week and use hoof boots on a longer drive. She wouldn't be able to do the work your horses do without shoes. A lot of the advocates for barefoot horses don't have to contend with the rain in this country, or have to keep their horses at livery, where you can't have all the different terrains in your field. Barefoot suits me at the moment, but that doesn't mean all shoeing is bad. It's horses for courses... (excuse the pun).
@abs0lutelyn0t44 10 жыл бұрын
With such a severe issue skeletally, why drive this guy??? Seems he should be allowed to do what he can......pulling with hinds that cannot engage correctly due to his upper body issues, IMO....isn't right. Ulcers are a symptom of continuing pain/stress......listen to the horse
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@Eva-cn2bu 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad there's at least one comment like that...all those so called "horse lovers" thinking about nothing but how to overexploit these animals to their death... first racing, now driving, when he can't walk they will put people on his back so they can take a picture of them sitting on a horse's back... their last human FRIEND is gonna be a butcher
@silverkitty2503 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes this is part of rehab if you don't exercise a horse it's like you these issues will become worse. Plus horses get depressed etc. And thoroughbreds are spirited they want to do stuff.
@ruthboaz4784 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos - I have a TB off the track and some of the crap trainers have wanted to do with Mercedes blows my mind I'm grateful I have a great vet that has been around TB all her life .
@Skylarkien 8 жыл бұрын
Very good points. I'm all for barefoot where it's appropriate, but some people really underestimated the power of a good farrier and how much benefit the first shoeing can do for a horse.
@dshe8637 8 жыл бұрын
When people assume bitless bridles are kind, it's because they don't understand how sensitive and vulnerable horses' noses are. There is no supporting structure under the thin nasal bones, and the area is highly ennervated. Putting pressure on the nose can cause pain and damage to the face, jaw, ears and sinuses. Wrapped or rubber bits free from curbs (shanks) ports or nutcracker joins are the most humane way to communicate with the front of the horse.
@evitare8714 8 жыл бұрын
Have you ever researched how a "simple snaffle" works? Did you know a horse cannot swallow when he is ridden in a bit and is accepting it? This is because the tongue must lay under the bit when the bit is accepted. To swallow, the tongue must create a vacuum against the roof of the mouth. Try, for the next 30 minutes, while you go for a jog, to not swallow. Then, keep your lips closed, as a horse who is "on the bit" and not evading it must. As you drool all over yourself and your discomfort and need to swallow grows, note how you feel. Is this kind? Is this gentle? Even without adding the pressure against your gums and roof of your mouth that horses feel, is it comfortable to work how a bit forces any horse, even with the kindest, most forgiving hands, must work? Think before you act.
@dshe8637 8 жыл бұрын
+Evitare if a bit is too thick in the mouthpiece, then that can be uncomfortable
@emilymalago3488 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think this true - my horse can eat and drink with a bit in her mouth? She can swallov when I ride her and is good for listen to my hands. If not possible to swallow she could no drink but she does!
@OneMoreMileAnHour 8 жыл бұрын
+Evitare horses aren't humans. Our bodies and minds work so differently.
@picklerific 7 жыл бұрын
bullshit the word humane is pain and abuse, do you really think that metal in the mouth is painless, you shouldn't own a horse.
@makayla__ 7 жыл бұрын
"Not bloody chinese things" LOL IM CRYING
@lisahardy4094 4 жыл бұрын
You are the grandpa I never had and wish I did. I could listen to you 24/7
@terantiq 7 жыл бұрын
I concur one hundred percent, Mr. Hook. I will not go into an arena -- no matter how big -- with or in front of a bitless driving horse, or even on a open-country drive. The problem is not so much the horses but the owners/drivers. Oh, the wrecks I've seen due to ignorance and those random, unforseen circumstances. And my own personal P.S.: there is a current trend in voiceless communication w/the horse. Sure, we have aids, less so in harness then when under saddle; but when driving the verbal commands are, IMHO, just as important as the lines and bits. Thanks to you and your wife for the highest-quality videos on this forum.
@charlotte-victoriadale3108 8 жыл бұрын
You say that this bitless is bringing pain to the horses nose, and I know why: You have it to low on the nose. The nosebone is so tiny the firther down you come to the muzzle. If you tighten up the bitless 1 or two moves, then it will fit perfectly :) Up on the nose, the nosebone is more thick and the horse don't get any pain when you take the rains. I have been riding and driving with bitless for 15 years, abd I have never esperienced any pain or anything negative about the bitless bridle. BUT, some horses can use it, some horses can't :) and I respect your opinion in this video :)
@BreeKayBe 8 жыл бұрын
My mare couldn't go barefoot, we tried for a year and 3 weeks out of the month she was lame. After the year I finally asked the vet to do a complete work up, she showed me the xrays and explained why she had to be shod, after shoes she never took a lame step. She was however able to go bitless.
@KaregoAt 8 жыл бұрын
Did you go straight from shoes to barefoot, cause that will definitely make a horse lame! They need to get accustomed to it first, although not all horses have hooves strong enough to ever go barefoot, sadly we humans have bred them so selectively for speed etc. that other areas suffer. What did your vet say about her legs?
@BreeKayBe 8 жыл бұрын
+KaregoAt She was barefoot all of her life, sent her to trainer when I purchased her(she was 9) wore shoes for 30 days, pulled them let her rest then had a barefoot trimmer take over her care. The farrier that eventually had to shoe her, stated that he gets more messed up horses because of that specific trimmer, I'd try it again with a different horse and a different trimmer.
@KaregoAt 8 жыл бұрын
***** Oh okay. Yeah there are some messed up trimming techniques around, and you can really damage a horse's hoof if you don't know what you're doing.
@meredithmorris493 8 жыл бұрын
+KaregoAt One of my horses couldn't go barefoot, mostly due to his breeding as he was a Thoroughbred originally bred for racing. We found out the hard way with him as he had an accident in the field and had to be on box rest for two weeks without his shoe, his hoof completely crumbled on him and that was inside. We already knew we had to bring his hooves on and he had been getting lots of supplements for his hooves but they were never strong enough to go without shoes. It's a shame really as our new boy is going through having his front shoes removed and the poor boy is sensitive to any tiny thing, although he should be able to make the cross-over. A lot of people don't realise how long the transition takes, dependent on the horse it can be anything from 1year to 2+ years for the hooves to fully transition.
@KaregoAt 8 жыл бұрын
Meredith Morris Ah I'm so sorry to hear that :( It is indeed a shame that we as people have concentrated on single aspects of horses and in turn neglected others in breeding. Most horses I've had the pleasure to interact with have been very "basic" with good, natural build and strong health, so they've had no problem with going barefoot, quite the contrary.
@brendareed8412 2 жыл бұрын
That horse wore his foot down by dragging it on the road! Holy cow!
@HorseFuzzy 9 жыл бұрын
You make excellent points in your video. I know a LOT of people that could benefit from your point of view. Unfortunately there's just no changing some people's minds!
@barryhook2 9 жыл бұрын
HorseFuzzy Thanks for your comment - I often find in the equestrian world that people tend to follow "one way" (i.e. they are either barefoot advocates or not, they are either bitless supporters or not, they are either Parelli followers or not) - there's a lack of "common sense middle ground" whereby the horse's needs are taken into account rather than the owner's personal preferences/beliefs. I think some people don't want to hear that they might be doing the wrong thing for their horse by trying to be "right" and following a specific doctrine. I don't believe you can be rigidly set in one way of doing things, as it just doesn't work for every horse and they are the ones who end up suffering from it. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@user-cx8th7oo4s 9 жыл бұрын
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@Horsingabout 8 жыл бұрын
+barryhook2 Doing the right thing by the horse is not a matter of following a fad or fashion it is a matter of doing what is best for it which actually takes a little bit listening to the animal and some effort and some sound research. Perhaps even an understanding of the animal rather than just some knowledge.
@alicecrum2120 8 жыл бұрын
I would like a bit for a Cob and a mini. Let me know when they are available.
@MegF142857 8 жыл бұрын
Good example for bitless not necessarily being softer on a horse. Thanks!
@KaregoAt 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't like this kind of bitless at all, even if he had it way too down on the nose here. The cross-under model is not good unless you keep a lose rein and only use light pressure, but it's very easy to put pressure on the nose way too hard, the same with hackamores. I only like direct pressure bitless bridles, like side pulls. The same thing with bits, I only like snaffles.
@ida2300 9 жыл бұрын
okay... that was probably the worst bitless bridel ever :3
@silverkitty2503 5 жыл бұрын
its a dr cook bridle
@vivientakacs5599 4 жыл бұрын
@@silverkitty2503 Doesn't mean it's good
@fritzgardfjordhest8351 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, a litle of topic, but I didn't quite get what had happend to this horses face? The reason I am wondering is because my own horse has a simular seperaton/hole, or actually I would say near identical. I always just thought it was from beeing kicked in the face before I got him. Although the kick was comfirmed, the simularity with the horse in this video makes me wonder if it could be some other reason for the seperation/hole. (It seems unlikely they both got kicked in just the same way.)
@lizzybizzy771 5 жыл бұрын
Fritzgard Fjordhest he had an operation on his sinuses
@amechelb 4 жыл бұрын
Why is there no throat latch on that bit-less bridle? It wouldn’t come off if it had one just like a bit with bridle doesn’t come of because of the throat latch 😅
@amberboston3154 6 жыл бұрын
If the bitless bridle hurts sooo much, why continuously pull on it?
@bgraham1968 9 жыл бұрын
good old Joe he's the best blacksmith I've ever had
@101flick 8 жыл бұрын
At risking sounding really thick.. I did not realise Thoroughbreds were able to pull a Carriage? I'd been ruling them out of my search but I might consider one if I cannot find a chunky cob now.
@watchgoose 7 жыл бұрын
Any sensible minded horse can be trained to drive.
@smc5535 4 жыл бұрын
Aww i LOVE the way he chats sweet to his horses...” come on my dawhlin... yes you ARE... yes you are....” bless
@katiewilson7873 6 жыл бұрын
Luv this guy
@helentaylor1222 2 жыл бұрын
We have a pony that was dumped in the road. It's laminitic and about 3 years old. I would like some basic advice as I don't want to do the wrong thing with it.
@barryhook2 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Helen, getting the pony right health-wise is what is important right now. Get some advice from an experienced vet and go from there.
@bookworm2653 7 жыл бұрын
So are you saying its better with horse shoes vs barefoot?
@minihorselover001 10 жыл бұрын
Don't know if I agree with the shoe part. The shoes on the horse prevent proper hoof movement and cut off blood flow, this is probably what led to the toe being weak and worn off. Also, it can take up to a year and a half for the hoof to grow back healthy after being shod consistently. This is like an injury healing so the horse may very well be sore and out of work until his feet have grown back to good shape. If a horse truly needs shoes there are plenty of horse boots that replicate shoes, protect the hoof and still allow the foot to flex as it needs to. Renegade Horse Boots, Easy Boots, Cavallo Horse Boots, etc. I do agree with the bitless driving bridle. Those bridles are cruel IMO, they cause just as much pain as a steel snaffle bit would, maybe worse and are ungodly expensive! I have always just used the horses halter. If they can be led with it then they should be able to work in it if training is done properly. The only bit I would ever use, and for competition only, is those flexible rubber bits.
@makayla__ 7 жыл бұрын
Um Question why is the a collar on the neck
@silverkitty2503 5 жыл бұрын
i love this man.
@JH-lz4ky 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for posting!
@kathybradbury 6 жыл бұрын
I so enjoy Barry and Mel! The character of these folk demonstrates how good it is for people to work with animals.
@FullerAnn 8 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your bit!! I can't find any soft rubber bits like that around here...but I keep looking!
@alexandraneeve7143 9 жыл бұрын
Every horse is different.. For this horse shoeing is best. He's a racehorse. His hooves are already stuffed up (from being shod at an early age) and clearly too soft to go barefoot anyway.. So i agree on this video. :P
@GoldenLioness100 7 жыл бұрын
The idea of a double bridle - not one but two bits in the mouth - gives me the screaming ad-abs. I've had the opportunity to ride a few horses (admittedly not many) in a side pull bridle - it resembles a conventional bridle but works with the pressure across the nose (at a higher point than this one) and under the jaw with very wide, flat straps - and they went much better in that than their bitted bridle. It does take different hands, as the difference between pressure and no pressure through the hands must be exaggerated to be felt by the horse, but I found only the slightest pull was needed to see a difference.
@hannahc6049 6 жыл бұрын
Golden the double bridle doesn't use two bits. It uses two REINS. Just one bit. You don't even have to use the curb reins, take them off and ride in the snaffle reins.
@artemisthearcher439 5 жыл бұрын
Here’s a cool fact I picked up ,some double bridles with two bits aren’t actually double bits sometimes it’s a bit made to look like it’s too when in reality it’s only one
@lorlorslinger9617 4 жыл бұрын
@@artemisthearcher439 that would be a type of pelham bit used on the bridles you've seen.
@lorlorslinger9617 4 жыл бұрын
@@hannahc6049 a double bridle does use 2 bits, a bridoon or snaffle and a curb bit. The bits that look like a double bit that can be used with one or 2 reins are Pelham bits.
@hannahc6049 4 жыл бұрын
@@lorlorslinger9617 Yeah.... learned a lot in a year lol.
@matildaislikecool 8 жыл бұрын
I actually cant believe that anyone would want to drive their horse in a crossunder bridle. And the one on the video is way to low. I drive all my horses bitless and it works great. But I would never do it in a crossunder bridle, its the worse kind of bitless bridle there is - in my opinion. When you relese the pressure on the reins the crossunder usually dont give a good pressure relese, especially not when driving i can imagine!
@lisawilson3578 8 жыл бұрын
hi barry, love watching your videos, I was looking at getting a butler driving bridle but saw you video and decided not to, my pony is in a Liverpool bit as that is what he came in, do you sell the rubber bits
@barryhook2 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Lisa, we are in the process of bringing our bits to market as we have them specially made for us. If you are interested please let me know what size you would require and as soon as they are up for sale I will let you know.
@terantiq 7 жыл бұрын
A 5", please. And ship to the U.S.! (As soon as I find another good-minded Hackney Cob over here -- just about extinct, alas, so I'm going to have to go to Ontario for one, apparently -- I'd need a 4 3/4" as well.) Thank you for all your very sound advice and examples. A compliment: you remind me of me Ole Dad! Well grounded in the great English coaching traditions and yet firmly on the side of modern sciences. Bravo, Mr. Hook. And your wife, too, for those great videos and narrative.
@karenbartlett1307 6 жыл бұрын
You have a great understanding of horses. And I love your accent!
@Taksling 7 жыл бұрын
I love all the comments full of criticism, I wonder where these peoples videos are of them doing what you do Barry Hook! I have never seen a kinder, quieter and positive trainer who has amazing success, keep doing what you're doing, love your videos!
@zer-jh9ek 9 жыл бұрын
Barryhook, is their a bit less you could use that is plain direct pressure (not all that crossunder stuff) that would work? Since their are a lot of different types of bitlesses. I do love how you train on lightness (how your horses go in plain rubber snaffles) you are a very respectable man indeed! I really enjoyed watching your video with the two studs and the mare in heat being ridden in rubber snaffles, it really shows how with training you can get a horse light and don't need all of those relatively harsh bits.
@barryhook2 9 жыл бұрын
zerosecondsago Thanks for your comment; when we drive bitless we just use a normal headcollar (i.e. very simple direct pressure - we wouldn't use a rope halter/'natural horsemanship" halter either as they are so thin and amplify the amount of pressure being applied). I also feel that on occasion people can get away with using more pressure on bitless bridles (of any type) as the horse doesn't/can't show the same signs of discomfort (i.e. gaping mouth, tossing the head etc). Hence why we use the soft rubber bits on a loose rein contact. There really is no reason at all why horses can't be trained to go on a light touch, and we hope that by showing the work we do with horses in "high pressure" situations, where most people would rely on a stronger bit for extra brakes/control (i.e. driving a mare with a stallion, driving in company, driving in heavy traffic etc) that it will help people look at what it is possible to achieve just on a soft bit, and realise that, as you say, it is training that is the key and not the amount of pressure you can apply to the mouth. One of Barry's sayings is that "the man hasn't been born strong enough to stop a horse from running in blind panic, even with a barbed wire bit in its mouth" - using strong bits just gives you a false illusion of control!
@zer-jh9ek 9 жыл бұрын
Very true! I never considered that, thanks for replying And I completely agree about harsh bits giving a false sense of control. Thanks again
@barryhook2 8 жыл бұрын
+Horsingabout The same can be said about bitless bridles - or anything that allows you to put pressure on your horse, including a neck rope or a simple halter for example. Any item can give you an illusion of control, so it is training that is key - what the horse associates (and therefore what it does) when the cue/aid is given, whether its on the face/neck/body/legs, or how it is given (via a bit/bitless/leg aid/body language on the ground etc). Link here is to a recent story about a horse bolting when ridden in a bitless bridle: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/countryside/9183464/Horse-riding-is-dangerous-and-riders-cannot-sue-when-they-fall-off-judge-rules.html
@Horsingabout 8 жыл бұрын
+barryhook2 Forget all that traditional propaganda and the bitless bridles and just for a start look at some of the other maladies caused by a foreign object in the mouth! Do some more research instead of staying in your aged comfort zone. wolnekonie.org/science_en_wroblewski.html
@barryhook2 8 жыл бұрын
+Horsingabout I believed you were pro-bitless due to your previous comment about control so unsure why you are now saying to forget about bitless bridles? These have been around for hundreds of years too so again unsure what "traditional propaganda" you are referring to. As I stated in a previous comment, we do drive bitless on occasion, but don't believe it is a "cure-all" that offers superior control (see my previous post). Our old horse is 23 now, has had an active driving career with a bit in all his life and never suffered from any disease/disorder; more peer-reviewed research is needed from both perspectives to prevent anecdotal evidence being presented as scientific fact.
@cherylstraub5970 10 жыл бұрын
I always see cart horses bend driven with blinkers on their bridles. Can you safely drive a horse without blinkers?
@barryhook2 10 жыл бұрын
Yes we do drive horses in open bridles, (see "Bitless driving with a 3yo" - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jcByfpSSyp-bnqc.html where we drive in just a headcollar) but blinkers are useful when driving multiples, which we do quite often. If you have one horse that is keen or very responsive, and another that isn't, if you want to give that horse a cue (i.e rest the whip on him) to get him doing his fair share of work they prevent the other horse from seeing and reacting to it first. However it is very common abroad (in Europe) for people to drive without blinkers and without any incidents either.
@cherylstraub5970 10 жыл бұрын
Thank-you for the explanation.
@alogatarisa 10 жыл бұрын
From which company is this bit and how exactly we called it??I want to buy one!!!and which of this style of bits is the best for a difficult horse!??
@minihorselover001 10 жыл бұрын
No style of bit is good for a difficult horse, only training will cure a difficult horse.
@alogatarisa 10 жыл бұрын
i know that but when you buy an allready train horse is difficult to change some things :/
@minihorselover001 10 жыл бұрын
Natalia Alogatarisa No it's not, not if you know what you're doing and know how a horse thinks. I bought a 13yr old badly abused retired draft pulling horse that was dubbed "dangerous" because he kicked, he also 'required' a twisted wire bit. Now he's a great kids horse and is driven in a barn halter and he weighs 2,000lbs so it's not like I'm using my strength to force him to listen. All within 6 months. Do your research, look up Rick Gore and watch his videos about horse behaviour and lunging. Yes Rick can be kinda hard to sit through the first few times but do it for your horse! Learn all you can and use common sense. A bigger bit- or any bit- won't help your horse or you. It's just a band aid and eventually band aids fall off.
@alogatarisa 10 жыл бұрын
i know i am not using my strenght to make my horse to listen..i am using my voice and my body only if it needs to use my hands a little bit more to stop some times...i know rick gore and i'm a big fan of him as barry hook too you help me a lot and i'm trying to conve other people too that we don't need bits just good training for our horses but all they want is fast training if you know what i mean...so if they don't like bitlles at least i'm trying to make them try ruber bits like yours or snafels (sorry for my bad english)...i don't own a horse so now but i am ridding others so it is difficult for me to prove them what i'm saying to them :(
@lottepepplinkhuizen9220 6 жыл бұрын
Kelsie B no one cares aboit what you did. All horses are different that's period
@anitrademirjian298 7 жыл бұрын
Great attitude and I agree completely, that's the way I learned to treat horses, that philosophy needs to be made widespread.
@Nyooom93 8 жыл бұрын
Did the owner take your advice? I certainly hope so.
@denelll.bennettsurvivorwar8224 4 жыл бұрын
*I Love ❤️ Your Videos! I’m disabled but want to ride again (I had my own horse when I was a little girl until I was 18-20), so I want to be a much better horsewomen!* *I Really Really Like The Rubber Bit! In My Opinion, Metal Bits Are SO WRONG!!! Metal should be minimal on horses gear!*
@pphedup 4 жыл бұрын
But he says the rubber bit is made in China and that you never know how the quality might change with each batch...
@renewyourmind1815 9 жыл бұрын
I agree the horse was wearing too much toe off, I've seen this before & its usually bc of pain in the back of the hoof. A horse wont land heel first, which is what you want, if there is pain in the back of the hoof.
@OneMoreMileAnHour 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed. My lad is a 3/4 Arab and is so sensitive on his head. He doesn't mind bits at all, but if you put a bit in that even slightly applies poll pressure, or use a headcollar that has pressure points he goes crazy. He has great feet and was fine barefoot, but after a season's hunting the rough ground proved too harsh for his hooves so I got him shod on his front feet (by the way, I never wanted to get him shod! However he got an abscess and was lame because of lack of support over hard ground while hunting, so I had to get him shod in front). I think every horse is different and yes for some, barefoot and/or bitless is best but I do hate how some people tar all horses with the same brush and act like bitless and barefoot is best for every horse ever! I had a TB who even while being shod couldn't Stand on concrete without a shoe on before it was replaced with a new one! The farrier had to put his hoodie underneath the horse's hoof to support it while he stood barefoot!
@brittany7710 7 жыл бұрын
OneMoreMileAnHour thank you for your common sense! :) it's true that not all horses ride or feel best the same way. I have to shoe my horses due to the local terrain as well, and bits are fine as long as dental condition is maintained and the horse has been taught lightness and responsiveness via groundwork in halter before any bit is introduced. my mare actually gets more nervous if I don't keep light mouth contact when riding; it is how she receives direction most readily, so when I drop the reins, it's kinda like partially losing radio reception. barefoot and bitless is great if your horse likes that, but not all do or can deal with it.
@dawnsneddon2102 6 жыл бұрын
lyco mania thank you!!!! People say oh but my horse needs shoes and yes some of them do and that's because they are lame. If I broke my leg and had to get a cast and pins etc to help me walk that's fine but it doesn't mean everyone else should get a cast and pins? Everyone who is healthy and capable to walk naturally should do so! People breed for so many traits and conformation but the hoof is ignored because even if it's crap u just hide it under a shoe right? Grrrrr
@RheeasDomain 6 жыл бұрын
These are not generalised breeding defects happily. Many mountain ponies and small horse breeds have been bred with good conformation and strong bones/hooves in mind, it's quite comforting to see. Look up breeds such as the Hucul/Hutul or some draft breeds, but not only. As a result, they are very easy to maintain and healthier overall without much intervention all the time, even with a semi-wild diet. It's all about what the human wants, and unfortunately it shows a breeder's/provider's "quality" and "knowledge" sometimes, not only intention. People are quick to put everyone into the "specialist" category nowdays. In their race towards ribbon winning, they forgot to see what makes a good and practical horse, and all these little details build up over generations or even faster and create animals that can't even give birth naturally or breath correctly (see Friesians gestation and giving birth issue, and for the 2nd breathing problem, overbred Arabs with crooked noses). I don't see how it can ever be practical outside show rings to have to call the vet/farrier every month for the horse because of a shallow or defective gene pool, no matter how high it was taught to jump (and then at 13 it becomes lame). Such truths are well hidden by the centers and breeders unfortunately, there is close to no research into these things because they get rid quickly of the animal (sell it/stall it; get it out of competitive rings; blame outside factors and not the real issues)
@hayleyequestrian3360 6 жыл бұрын
Well said!! Great video!
@labrakadabra9026 5 жыл бұрын
And the nose band looks way to low on the horses nose.
@Volkslady 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in determining WHY he drags his toe, rather than just nailing a shoe on without addressing the overall problem. I'd recommend hoof boots until the reason was determined; it may have something to do with the horse's spinal issues, for example. And that cross-under headstall was adjusted too low. It should not sit only on the cartilage. I'd rather put "massive pressure" on nasal bones than on sensitive bars, but a light hand would do neither.
@Raty-ok7ku 7 жыл бұрын
Bitless bridles often sit on their nose. Attaching reins to a leather head collar or strong rope halter that sits above the thin bone in the nose would be better.
@remedyfarm 10 жыл бұрын
Have you seen that some people are now using "flash" nose bands to clamp their horses' mouths shut against harsh bits and hands? I don't know if you call it the same thing in the UK. It's like a second nose band that is clamped tightly over the nostrils in front of the bit; in addition to their regular nose band. Just awful. I wonder how "horsemanship" has gotten so polarized. I'm glad you addressed this barefoot/bitless issue.
@hilarymaxson8415 9 жыл бұрын
Flash nosebands are nothing new, And a lot of people certainly abuse them. They are not intended to be tight at all, if anything lighter set than the nose band as a simple reminder. Most horses out grow nosebands when used properly. Most horses outgrow bits and their use when used properly. my Mare went from riding in a tom thumb to a soft nath loose ring bit, that I only use occasionally.
@emeraldsnow3713 9 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of other bitless bridles ones that won't come off. I have one dr cook bridle like this one and I fit it to where the noes band goes over the bridge not the soft spot or the end bone of the nose, but the area where it can be supported and not cause "pain"
@brittanyritenour4695 7 жыл бұрын
He looks sweet buddy
@WilmaDarkrider 7 жыл бұрын
are rubber bits better since they are soft? (I hate bits I just want bit users to find an alternative solution)
@scarletttoohey-crock6637 7 жыл бұрын
you could just ride in a halter and use a bit when your horse isnt responding or being brung back to work
@deejayk5939 4 жыл бұрын
People have to do what is best for the horse!
@Mat-ilda 2 жыл бұрын
Illfitting bitless bridles can cause damage and pain and can in those cases be as abusive as a bit , there are different types of bitless alternatives, I am not a fan of the face crushing cross under bridle. Side pull is much more gentle
@coregoddess-Sexy-chicchats 9 жыл бұрын
I so admire your training and making good USEFUL horses. I share on face book often. Wished I could come play with you! I had a Percheron that trained me!
@katiewilson7873 6 жыл бұрын
I agree
@annaeventing2149 6 жыл бұрын
I rode my horse in a hakamor and his poor nose swelled up because there was too much pressure, because he was quite a strong boy, so we went back to the rubber snaffle and all his bits are rubber now :))
@lottepepplinkhuizen9220 6 жыл бұрын
Anna Eventing Here Finally someone that cracks not on bits but hackamores You probably know railey (forgot how to spell her name) She hates bits But still cracks on hackamores and says there "good"
@vivientakacs5599 4 жыл бұрын
Hackamores are you fucking kidding me. It shouldn't even be called bitless, those are the worst types. But still if you need so much pressure, you shouldnt sit on the horse, but do groundwork
@BubblyGumm 10 жыл бұрын
www.smartpakequine.com/micklem-competition-bridle-8335p not sure if they have a driving verson of this or if it would even be okay for driving, but I like the idea of this bridle, It's based on the bone structure of the horse's face.
@claretollerton9715 4 жыл бұрын
There are some making bitless briddles and head collars with padding against the nose instead of hard leather pressing on the nerves on the nose. But haven't seen any made for carriage harness pulling yet .
@BreeKayBe 8 жыл бұрын
Have you ever had the pleasure of driving a Standardbred?
@rockinheartranch 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining as you did in this video, pros and cons. I had been wondering about the rubber bit, now I know exactly what you have been using in the videos that I have watched. Agree 100% on the barefoot for all horses -- it's not for all horses. I had a lady (stranger) come over to my trailer and chew me out because my horse was shod. She did not know me, how I make sure my horse is comfortable and has the best care, or the fact that he has shoes to correct a quarter crack. It took slightly over 2 years but my farrier's plan worked (it was also vet approved). I had also wondered about the bitless bridle. Your explanation is what I thought. Thank you for posting your training videos.
@KaregoAt 8 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that this is not the way all bitless bridles work. The same as bits, the only good ones are the ones that work off direct pressure, without shanks, leverage or any gimmicks like this cross-under business. Sidepull style bitless bridles and snaffles are the way to go. It's too easy to hurt the horse with other models.
@maryahern1618 5 жыл бұрын
Rigid shoes do not allow for the natural expansion and contraction of the hoof. If shoes must be worn, there are better alternatives than steel. There are also high tech removable shoes which are being increasingly worn by mounted police departments and endurance horses. My off-the-track thoroughbreds are thriving without shoes-- going from thin-soled hooves to rock crushers. Steel shoes are on the way out-- for good reason.
@barryhook2 5 жыл бұрын
As does our pony, Georgie. Great to hear your horses are doing well barefoot. This video of ours might interest you: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j5aIlqd1s-CtcWQ.html
@TheMattd546 7 жыл бұрын
I ride with just a rope halter. Not chains, no buckles, no blinders.
@silverkitty2503 5 жыл бұрын
Rope halters are more severe than halters ...rope cuts into tissue more than a leather bridle does...
@vivientakacs5599 4 жыл бұрын
@@silverkitty2503 Yeah if you leave them on for months and they are tight. Idk what type of rope you are thinking, but a rope halter is a really soft rope which bends really easily
@keirapoland6676 6 жыл бұрын
do it with rubber bit
@erikacouture4577 Жыл бұрын
That bit less bridle is too low on the horses face
@monicafranklin7811 8 жыл бұрын
Hello Barry, thank you for presenting a video on tbs/ex-racers. We watch this one regularly and the others of the tbs learing to drive. Ours was fine in December then went to the trainer in January and after 2 weeks she is limping quite badly. Is possible to send you a short like 20 second video of her movement for any opinion please? You are pretty much the only person we trust to actually do right by the horse. The last trainer said, oh she is going nicely but when we went to see her she was lame so that even an inexperienced person could see it. So it is a good thing the ym got greedy demanding more money without reason and we removed her asap. Thank very much if you have a moment. Not sure if it is a case of, like this one, the shoes were not on when the work was started in the sand school, too much too soon by the trainer, both or something else.
@barryhook2 8 жыл бұрын
+Monica Franklin Hi, you are more than welcome to send us a video and we can offer an opinion, obviously we are not vets and it is always harder when you can't physically see the horse (for instance if we had it we may say "move it to the left now" or "ask it to back up a step" while it was doing something else) but we can have a look and see if there's anything we can spot. It would also help if you could take a close-up of the shoes that she is wearing too. If you email it to horsedrawnpro@hotmail.com then I can ask Barry to have a look at it. Many thanks, Mel
@monicafranklin7811 8 жыл бұрын
+barryhook2 Thanks very much Mel! I have sent the video now. She does not have shoes on at the momentt. I have put a wee bit of detail of the situatinon in the email. She is supposed to be shod on Monday if the farrier thinks it will help things .I have also explained a bit about the ym's opinion and why things are possibly happeneing the way they are. She is a ta new place now and not the first where this probably happened.
@DeathKitty123456 7 жыл бұрын
in my opinion a foot and toe wear like that to me suggests something wrong. the horse certainly isn't moving correctly to begin with. rolling the shoe around his toe will only mask the problem
@GoldenLioness100 7 жыл бұрын
If you read the description, it says the horse has kissing spines.
@lucathecob3194 7 жыл бұрын
My horse will be started with a hackamore, with no leverege for my cob it's very loose fitted no curb chain instant release from pressure and won't slip off I'd say that's better that most bitless or any bit
@gracewright9034 9 жыл бұрын
Another point of interest. It maybe a regional thing or just the way I was taught. That hind looks to me like someone put a "natural trim" on him then a shoe. This would advance the breakover behind and increase the probability of forging. It is a more common thing to see on the fronts to speed breakover in front and avoid forging or cliping of the front heals. In any case I would probably do exactly what you did until the toe grew back out. Could not agree more about the "Bitless bridle" besides what you mention, the release is slow and that is not good.
@katiewilson7873 6 жыл бұрын
But not about the shoe the horse in my opinion should not have been put through all that but I’m just gonna say you can tell he loves his horses
@juliaclaiborne7929 7 жыл бұрын
A good horseman! People like this are harder and harder to find.
@aero3318 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Cook bridles aren’t the best. Most horses respond much better to rope halters or traditional hackamores
@aero3318 2 жыл бұрын
@@smokeykit57 not webbing halters, they’re pretty wack. Rope halters are fab though
@aero3318 2 жыл бұрын
@@smokeykit57 when did I say otherwise? I can’t stand when people but words in my mouth. There’s nothing wrong with riding in a rope halter either.
@PhyllisGlassup2TheBrim 5 жыл бұрын
Luckily I have a hairy cold blooded cob :)
@theresonly1deano 6 жыл бұрын
listen, rubber bits still hurt the horse because... 1: the mouth is extremely sensitive 2: there is still metal bits on it 3:whenever you pull on the reins the nerves still attack the brain
@Observer420 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, what? 1. You're wrong. Yes it's sensitive, but I've seen horses happily eat thorns and stick other sharp objects in their mouth on their own accord (not being abused or starved or anything, just curious or don't care usually). The nose is super sensitive too as there are many sensitive nerves running very close to the surface of the face. Hard tissue (nose) also does not have as much give as soft tissue (tongue) and thus cannot absorb and distribute pressure as well as soft tissues can. 2. There are bits where the mouthpieces are full rubber and bits that have full leather mouthpieces. Unless you're talking about the cheek pieces, in which case, I guess 99% of all saddles, halters, and bridles (bitless ones too) are abusive since they have metal? 3. ...What? Nerves don't attack the brain, they send signals to the brain. I assume you mean pressure on the nerves causes pain to the brain...? Where in the hell did you hear this? Please come back with legitimate, unbiased, peer-reviewed scientific sources that state this. There are numerous cases of horses moving very well, happy and relaxed in bits and reaching for contact. If any sort of pulling resulted in neurological pain, horses would not move happily and relaxed with bits in.
@jeanviarengo231 4 жыл бұрын
As you’ve said soo many times before, you have to do what is right for the horse at the time he needs it.. what so many in the bitless camp don’t realize, their bitless bridles are made to apply quite severe pressure on facial nerves, often giving worse pressure than any bit. Your rubber bits are much kinder than most hackamores, and bitless bridles. In truth, a bit shaped correctly, is very kind in the right hands. So sad to see harsh treatment. My own horse happens to be barefoot, but correct hoof care should be applied to the individual horse’s needs... at the time! Once again, thank you Barry.. more people need to listen to sensible, good horsemanship.
@Caxel108 6 жыл бұрын
Well the whole bit argument is against metal bits, not rubber ones.
@MollyGaia 6 жыл бұрын
santa is real.............. this was great, though I could barely understand shit I'm not used to this accent
@pphedup 4 жыл бұрын
Closed Captions, my friend...Closed Captions. LOL
@ridingmydaydream4491 6 жыл бұрын
You say that the bitless bridle was putting a lot of pressure and causing discomfort but you were pulling a lot and the horse did not react negatively he was just stood there now pull like that with a bit rubber or not and see the horse back up and try and release the pressure! Point I’m making is a horse is happier with a piece of leather over his nose than a pice of rubber/metal in his mouth crushing his tongue!
@lottepepplinkhuizen9220 6 жыл бұрын
Riding My Daydream soft rubber in your mouth doesn't hurt? You chew gum to right?
@vivientakacs5599 4 жыл бұрын
@@lottepepplinkhuizen9220 Not to mention that the tounge is on the lower bars which are very sharp, so it doesn't matter which bit, the tounge is pushed onto the bars.
@pphedup 4 жыл бұрын
The man is so kind! Look how the poor horse is relaxing his gaze and nuzzling him. It's like a Jack London story. Too bad old York has to go back to the Chinese lady or to auction. I just hope a knacker doesnt win the bid & sell him for dog food! "Oh the pain...the PAIN." : * - (
@JustASleepySloth 6 жыл бұрын
Bitless *is* better if you add up all the harm of them and of blinkers for that matter, it's very important a horse can see, it just adds fear to the process, clearly you're able to make it work but just because it works doesn't mean it's the best way, sometimes you have to do things that appear more difficult to get the best results for the horse. I agree that the bitless used above is one of the shittest out there and is pretty horrid, it put's pressure on a thinly covered patch of bone which would be very uncomfortable, it also doesn't give the right kind of direction, they often come loose and are a fucking nightmare to put on. For driving I recommend a sidepull as it will give the same amount of control as a regular bridle and adds a kinder type of pressure without the risk of injury, rope halters are probably the best for riding in if you really want to test your skills and improve your riding.
@Observer420 6 жыл бұрын
The best thing to test your skills and improve your riding is to go completely bridleless. Rope halters are more severe than most sidepulls as the rope is often stiff, harsh, and thin. As well the knots apply pressure to sensitive nerves running close to the surface of the horse's face. Some rope halter sellers will even admit this. the site 'rainbowsendtack' has a page on rope halters. If you type in 'rainbowsendtack rope halters' it should pull up a page of rope halters for sale where sellers say that the halter applies pressure to nerves in the face. A nylon or leather halter is much more humane than rope halters.
@Kat-gr7yc 8 жыл бұрын
going barefoot can only be used for some horses with proper strong hooves. thoroughbreds need shoes because people didn't worry about the foot when breeding them. And if you use a bit you hurt the horses mouth, you can also damage the teeth.
@bullseyedart1 8 жыл бұрын
+Castiel Novak They use soft rubber bits, not metal ones. Its still possible to hurt the horse's nose and jaw with a bitless bridle if you put too much pressure on it. The assumption that all bits hurt horse's mouth is untrue, I could make the same statement about all bitless bridles hurting the horses nose. And a bit shouldnt be touching the teeth anyway unless you are pulling so hard it rides up in the mouth in which case i'd say theres a problem with the training or riding not the bit itself. Have followed Barry for a long time and respect what he does, it may not be what people want to hear but what he says makes perfect sense.
@ryli_fisher5860 7 жыл бұрын
bullseyedart1 this is the best comment here!!
@allykatgamer0019 8 жыл бұрын
You don't need bits ever if you train your horse right
@midnightslea7424 5 ай бұрын
Sorry but that shoe is fabricated to have a square toe in order to bring the breakover back to where it should be. Granted it has worn but the shoe design is in order to alleviate the toe dragging caused by the back issues. A sound barefoot existence is possible here but not for driving I suspect.... shoes are essential in certain cases: I never work under a horse to trim wearing sandals!
@CInzerillo 9 жыл бұрын
That style of bitless bridle is much better for riding, not driving.
@silverkitty2503 5 жыл бұрын
I think it would terrible for riding too.
@vivientakacs5599 4 жыл бұрын
It's actually a really bad one, just as mechanical hackamores
@user-jt4he7ts4x 4 ай бұрын
0:24 >>>>> Visible ribs - please give more food.--- English subtitles required. Alternative: Distinct pronunciation without dialect. At 8:01 >>>>>This noseband position hinders proper breathing.
@WachdByBigBrother 9 жыл бұрын
Had a client show up with a bitless bridle to be humane. The horse ran away with her. Had me ride in it and he got better and better. Unfortunately, unless someone has the aptitude and the willingness to spend the time, bitless isn't a good idea. Many people don't, don't, or won't
@coollikegrass2489 3 жыл бұрын
Shoes are not good for your horse. It may prevent him from wearing his hind hooves down, but still not good. Why not use rubber boots? Shock absorbing, allows the hoof to flex and keeps the hoof healthy. On top of that, a horse dragging his hind legs that much should be a red flag. I would think lameness somewhere in the hind end? I sure as hell wouldn't be working him
@satisfyingslimeasmr7539 6 жыл бұрын
Why would a bit be better than bitless...
@lottepepplinkhuizen9220 6 жыл бұрын
Satisfying Slime ASMR he didn't say it was He said that bit works Beter for him
@WildWestNeko 5 ай бұрын
Yep, not always better. Less business for the dentist. Less business for the veterinary. Less business for the farrier.
@MaritsView 7 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Bits do hurt and certain bitless bridles do hurt as well. But riding in a rope halter with reins or a bosal with no bit is one of the friendliest ways to ride. Of course nothing is the horses fault and it depends on the rider soft hands and hard hands is something people should look at But if you have a bit the slightest pull will bother them The mouth of a horse is sensitive so is ours And should be treated respectfully You wouldn't want anyone messing with your gum palate or teeth with a piece of metal without any sedition right? Horses talk to us thru body language unfortunately not everyone does read it I'll name a couple of examples of discomfort Tail swishing, head shaking, ear pinning and there are so many more In my opinion you should treat your horse the same as how you want to be treated respectfully loved. Of course horses need a leader but it can be done nicely. Leadership is what they understand You're either the leader or you are not And if you're not the leader the horse will push you around But you do not need a bit to control this You need to understand horses Here's how l like to ride: s551.photobucket.com/user/smrobs/media/Dobe/GEDC0138.jpg.html?t=1302836363
@MsEssmess Жыл бұрын
With a coach and 5 in hand up front ???
@labrakadabra9026 5 жыл бұрын
Ok well bits make it where horses can't swallow properly because you have to put your tongue to your roof of your mouth to swallow which is why horses foam from the mouth.
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