Why Britain Just Ended 14 Years of Conservative Rule

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For more than a decade, Britain has been governed by the Conservative Party, which pushed its politics to the right, embracing smaller government and Brexit. Last week, that era officially came to an end.
Mark Landler, the London bureau chief for The Times, explains why British voters rejected the Conservatives and what their defeat means in a world where populism is on the rise.
Guest: Mark Landler (www.nytimes.com/by/mark-landler) , the London bureau chief for The New York Times.
Background reading:
• Five takeaways (www.nytimes.com/2024/07/05/wo...) from the British general election.
• The Conservatives have run Britain for 14 years. How have things changed in that time? (www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...)
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily (nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-t...) . Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.

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@sommmeguy
@sommmeguy 17 күн бұрын
So your not going to discuss what a colossal disaster Boris Johnson and Theresa May were? It wasn't Truss, it was 14 years of incompetence, scandal, and weirdness.
@danliddiard
@danliddiard 17 күн бұрын
Break out the popcorn 🍿! It's it's going to become even bigger mess under Labor.
@sommmeguy
@sommmeguy 17 күн бұрын
@@danliddiard I cannot fathom how it possibly could be worse.
@macflod
@macflod 16 күн бұрын
And people still kept voting them in- power of the tory owned media is not to be underestimated
@macflod
@macflod 16 күн бұрын
@@sommmeguyjust a troll or someone who believes the tory media
@jpotter2086
@jpotter2086 15 күн бұрын
@@sommmeguy Imagination is constrained by experience. It will get worse, and then we'll be able to imagine that. Yay.
@janemissmoo
@janemissmoo 16 күн бұрын
The conservatives lost more votes to Liberal Democrates then to reform ! Please focus on that!
@sasserine
@sasserine 15 күн бұрын
LibDems only increased their vote share by 1.3%. Their 7x multiplication of seats is a result of tactical voting, and those votes being cast in specific target seats, instead of spread nationwide.
@bybodidotcom
@bybodidotcom 14 күн бұрын
I wish this was true but it isn't. Liberal Democrats took more seats from the Torys but Reform recieved more votes nationally. Lib Dems recieved 12.2% where as Reform recieved 14.3%. Fact. Again I wish it wasn't true.
@IrateTurkey
@IrateTurkey 14 күн бұрын
No they didn't 😂😂😂
@user-sd3ik9rt6d
@user-sd3ik9rt6d 15 күн бұрын
Note; the last conservative prime minister, Rishi Sunak, was a city trader who bet against the uk in the 2008 crash and he personally made millions from it.
@madelineantill1417
@madelineantill1417 14 күн бұрын
Immigration would be less of a perceived problem if the Tories had not blamed immigrants for their own decisions not to invest in housing, schools, the NHS, etc.
@algernonsidney8746
@algernonsidney8746 12 күн бұрын
The tories never blamed immigrants for their investment decisions. They criticized the record levels of migration( conveniently leaving out that they were responsible for it) but that is not the same thing as criticizing migrants on a personal level or claiming that migrants literally and willingly sabotaged the economy. Moreover the tories repeatedly increased funding for education and the NHS but they failed to decentralize or democratize it while wasting vast sums on private contractors.
@muhcharona
@muhcharona 10 күн бұрын
@madelineantill1417 Its a huge problem, Cremieux has the IQ break down by group, the ones brought in will never pay for anything.
@roseanncampbell3168
@roseanncampbell3168 2 күн бұрын
💯 agreed. The Tories love to cut taxes and public services then blame someone else for the reason why there's not much service. Typical smears and deflection on their parts
@jameswoods5740
@jameswoods5740 17 күн бұрын
Austerity didn't balance the books. It was failed political ideology. Our national debt to GDP ratio has sky rocketed since the policies were implemented and all our services have been eroded to the point that nothing works. At the same time, Tory insiders have lined their own pockets and one of our PM's bet against the UK when Brexit was put to a referendum. At every stage, the Tories have demonstrated in very practical terms that the only thing that matters is the inward advantages of political positioning and that the UK and it's people are a vessel for wealth extraction. Con-men who use divisive politics to divide and rule
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 17 күн бұрын
Debt mostly went up since COVID, nice try at spin
@jameswoods5740
@jameswoods5740 17 күн бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff oooookaaaay.. How many years of austerity did you just willfully ignore? Covid was in the 2020's.. National debt has been climbing constantly since the Tories came to power and hit the UK with their ideology. Ten years at the very least is the gap between the start of the last Tory government and when covid hit. If you honestly believe defending tory policy for all that time is a reasonable position to take, then no one will ever be able to get through to you. The ridiculous spin is underpinning your comments not mine.
@Xerus35
@Xerus35 17 күн бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff Debt has been rising the whole time the Tories have been in power. Wage stagnation is a form of debt, so is inflating house prices. You don't understand anything about economics.
@jameswoods5740
@jameswoods5740 17 күн бұрын
Agtsmirnoff has to be a Russian bot with that name! Otherwise, just a trolololol
@wtfboom4585
@wtfboom4585 16 күн бұрын
Well said, I'm happy to respect people with opposing political beliefs but the tories weren't even that - they literally have no principles outside of increasing their own personal wealth.
@richardcoppack5357
@richardcoppack5357 16 күн бұрын
I'm a Brit, this is one of the best political assessments I've heard. Perhaps you have the advantage of the outsider looking on. Thanks
@Yutappy99
@Yutappy99 15 күн бұрын
The answer is in the title "Conservative Rule". Politicians are voted in by the people to SERVE the people. We did not vote them in so they can RULE over us, which is what the Conservatives have done for the last 14 years.
@muhcharona
@muhcharona 10 күн бұрын
There was no conservative rule, the Tories became Hillary Clinton.
@michaelhoskins6579
@michaelhoskins6579 14 күн бұрын
The Liberal Democrats did remarkably well because of widespread and highly targetted tactical voting, namely Labour voters who leant their votes to the Lib Dem candidate in their constituencies where they know Labour couldn't win in order to get the Tory candidate out and vice versa. You could almost say that Labour and Lib Dem votes were interchangeable depending on where you live as the parties are very close on policy and they were both seen as a vehicle for getting the Tories out. I think the "low" Labour vote share has been over-interpreted by the UK right-wing press in an attempt to try and give Conservatives some hope that they may be able to quickly recover. Voters guided by various online tactical voting campaigns used the First Past The Post system against the Tories in this election to a devastating effect.
@ChickenNugNugz2
@ChickenNugNugz2 17 күн бұрын
If an American wants to know.just how bad the UK is, look at it like this: If you remove one city, London, from the equation England has worse economic and poverty outcomes than the lowest performing state in the union Mississippi. All the while Mississippi has the GPD of less than $120bn and the UK has a GPD of over $2 trillion
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 17 күн бұрын
What does their actual GDP have to do with the analysis?
@BootyCollins-gf5er
@BootyCollins-gf5er 17 күн бұрын
Somebody missed their economics lessons in school​@@Agtsmirnoff
@Xerus35
@Xerus35 17 күн бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff That they can produce 5% of the goods and still take care of themselves better than the UK can because all the GDP of the UK is shovelled into billionaires pockets.
@letsRegulateSociopaths
@letsRegulateSociopaths 17 күн бұрын
115 billion, lowest GDP of any US state...
@letsRegulateSociopaths
@letsRegulateSociopaths 17 күн бұрын
​@@Agtsmirnoffthe point is to show the disparate percentage of money between London and the rest of the country
@31Blaize
@31Blaize 14 күн бұрын
Not a single thing about the collapse of trust in the Tories after multiple lies and scandals? Not even the slightest mention of how Johnson destroyed the standard in politics to an all time low having a monumental effect? This reporting misses one of the most important factors in why the UK rejected the Tories so decisively.
@hywelmorris1778
@hywelmorris1778 2 күн бұрын
This is such an accurate assessment of life in the UK . It is not the “world beating” country that the Conservatives would like us to believe.
@madelineantill1417
@madelineantill1417 14 күн бұрын
Tory mismanagement has driven a 20% increase in prices (a mix of ideological austerity damaging the economy, Brexit damaging trade, and Truss' unfunded tax cuts which increased our brewing costs by 8%) resulting in a terrible 'cost of living crisis' - people are having to choose between heating their house or eating.
@-tom-8720
@-tom-8720 14 күн бұрын
No it's the constant printing of money that caused inflation. Austerity never happened. Truss has had really little to no effect on the country at all
@ReeM-wz7bs
@ReeM-wz7bs 12 күн бұрын
Dont forget Partygate, when the Tories and Boris Johnson partied during lockdown, when all of us obeyed the lockdown rules
@RunOfTheHind
@RunOfTheHind 17 күн бұрын
Ended big-C Conservative rule...but not economically neo-liberal rule tho...which is why we're in this mess.
@letsRegulateSociopaths
@letsRegulateSociopaths 17 күн бұрын
Anything to avoid the fact that all of these politicians have personal motivation to continue as such. They have all doubled their net worth since 2009
@davegibbs6423
@davegibbs6423 14 күн бұрын
Blairite neo-liberal.
@shayZero
@shayZero 17 күн бұрын
This past week has felt optimistic. Probably the first time since the Olympics ive felt hope in the U.K
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 17 күн бұрын
You have hope 😂 the boats are on their way. You have no idea just how horrible the UK is about to become.
@Xerus35
@Xerus35 17 күн бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff The wealthy destroyed the country, not the immigrants. Crime is high because the Tories gutted the police force and prison system and refused to invest a penny into deprived areas. Nobody wants to start a business in a high crime area so the only way to make money in a deprived area is benefits and crime. It would happen to every area in the UK eventually under Tory rule.
@Johnconno
@Johnconno 17 күн бұрын
The Olympics?😂
@exucia669
@exucia669 17 күн бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff Oh no, boats full of innocent people fleeing war and persecution in hope of a better life that will no way will impact my own. What will we do?!
@adtastic1533
@adtastic1533 17 күн бұрын
@@exucia669 Yeah, they already made it to France. It's nice. They should stay there.
@sasserine
@sasserine 15 күн бұрын
US listeners, hearing the difficulties faced by the National Health Service, may not be aware that the Tories have claimed to be increasing funding, year on year, but this is 'Hollywood Accounting'. In reality, NHS treatments have been outsourced to private companies, who are allowed to cosplay as 'NHS' workers, at multiple times what real NHS staff cost. That has allowed the Tory government to launder public money *through* the NHS, to companies owned by their families and friends. They also labelled the £billions embezzled by Boris Johnson, for nonexistent covid protections, as 'NHS spending', meaning the public were paying to be robbed, and the Tories wanted credit and thanks for robbing them. This Tory mismanagement, as well as providing cover for Tory corruption, enables them to misrepresent publicly run services as inefficient, and justify the sell off of more public assets. Remember these facts, when the GOP argue against publicly owned healthcare. The bad examples they will cite are examples of right wing criminality, not left wing ineffectiveness.
@davegibbs6423
@davegibbs6423 14 күн бұрын
The GOP are not Tories. The government has gotten involved here and it is not good. They are two different healthcare systems that both need reform.
@loytostudio
@loytostudio 17 күн бұрын
The notion of the UK vote not having been for the left is somewhat simple and maybe americanized. There has always been diverse views of "the left", and in Britain The New Left was and still is to the left, thw difference is between ideology inside Labour. It is, and has been the same in nordic and Finnish politics. The left is not homogenic and never has been. BTW, in France the differences are between parties on the left.
@thebiglebowski4309
@thebiglebowski4309 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, its nothing to do with open borders, population explosion. Yeah, nothing to do with waiting lists. The NHS is free at the point of use coupled with the population. How do you plan for that.
@einseitig3391
@einseitig3391 3 күн бұрын
It is hard to narrow the failure of the Conservatives down to just a few points. Consider the lack of hope many young people have especially those who do not go on to university. We have young men in particular who think a life of crime is their only hope. Crime in the UK is completely out of control. Theresa May as Home Secretary allowed Cameron to cut police numbers with the result that we now have some of he most brazen criminals who having seen people in the US looting shops, think they can get away with the same here. Additionally and uniquely to Britain we have scores of young men on mopeds and motorized bicycles stealing phones off people in broad daylight; plus stabbings on a scale unimaginable. Additionally crimes against women including serving police officers killing women is a significant and worrisome issue. Virtually all of our public services are poor value for money and some are simply close to collapse. NHS Dentistry is a flag bearer. If you work and are between 18 and 65 you have to go private as joining a practice is nigh on impossible and appointments are few and far between leading some to pull their own teeth out. You would think they would be ashamed of the state of it all but they are as brazen as the criminals. The electorate have literally being gullible if not plain old stupid. In 2016 Boris Johnson lied and the electorate swallowed it giving us Brexit. Taking back control of our borders simply swapped white immigrants for brown ones plus hoardes of others. Despite the knowledge that Brexit was a disaster Johnson insisted that he would get it done and in 2019 the electorate gave him a massive majority; cue a complete mess of an exit deal. Simply; the Tories failed. Britain is failing. For more see HS2, corporate tax, Chris Grayling etc., A complete shambles.
@andybricky1927
@andybricky1927 15 күн бұрын
I think to explain the election you have to also take into account how the left voted tactically to dump this lot . Usually we split the left vote and the Tories romp in through the middle as they did in Ian Duncan Smith's seat this time. Also worth a mention along with Reforms role in splitting the right vote an exit pole of Reform voters showed only one third would have voted Tory, so joining up with Reform may only get the Tories another one and a half million votes and inevitably some would go to the left.
@robertduluth8994
@robertduluth8994 12 күн бұрын
“The Labour Party performed very well” 😂 only to then mention the fact that Starmer’s Labour received less votes than they did under Corbyn.
@FutureKnut
@FutureKnut 11 күн бұрын
Blaming immigrants is one of the oldest tricks in politics
@ericktellez7632
@ericktellez7632 10 күн бұрын
They didn’t really ended conservative rule when the current labour is the most right leaning it has been since the 90s
@kelleriten.0.163
@kelleriten.0.163 14 күн бұрын
seats not votes
@wilsel1394
@wilsel1394 17 күн бұрын
Lots of us in the U.K feel as if we've woken up from a really weird dream, like how the fuck did that happen? Was Liz Truss really prime minister?
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 17 күн бұрын
She did nothing wrong, the Bank of England conspired against her
@macflod
@macflod 16 күн бұрын
Ill tell you how it happened- racists in the tory party
@-tom-8720
@-tom-8720 14 күн бұрын
​do not exist@@macflod
@mjwilliamsb2676
@mjwilliamsb2676 14 күн бұрын
Yea, Liz Truss, but I'm still staggered at the idea of Boris Johnson as PM, never mind the lettuce... Thank god its over, however good or bad Labour will be...
@samhartford8677
@samhartford8677 11 күн бұрын
I really don't understand how even intelligent British commentators still cannot understand that their international role has changed fundamentally: They are not in the rooms where things are discussed, so it's pretty difficult for them to lead from the corridor pressing once ear to the door.
@phoenixrose1192
@phoenixrose1192 10 күн бұрын
The UK has a seat on the UN Security Council, so they kind of are in the rooms.
@anomietoponymie2140
@anomietoponymie2140 14 күн бұрын
All your premises are wrong.
@aensti9077
@aensti9077 17 күн бұрын
What‘s this „hmmm“ from the host for? Kind of annoying…
@angelsy1975
@angelsy1975 16 күн бұрын
That's their schtick on The Daily... all the hosts do it. Take a shot every time they go "hmmmmm..." :)
@alanbradley9621
@alanbradley9621 2 күн бұрын
Excellent talk and accurate. Same old story. Inadequate work skills and training for " English young prople" because Tory's hate sctual real work. And the working class. So bring in foreign labour. We had European skilled building type workers who did a superb job. Brexit treated them like rubbish and sent them home. Now cost of eating out etc has soared in London. European Doctots and Nurses have left. Alll replaced by Asian and African essentially Muslim immigrants whose own populations are soaring. This is an uunholy irreligious invasion that is going on with no solition in sight. Starmer had better watch out because despite how it dressed up he does not have majority support of the nation. And he had no money otther than oir money. And we the populaion have been screwed. Thank you for pointing out that ourside London we are no more than a Mississippi economy. We are getting worse and worse. Excellent summary your yalk.
@ReeM-wz7bs
@ReeM-wz7bs 12 күн бұрын
Its also the conservatives corruption, PPE scandals etc
@gwensommers4976
@gwensommers4976 15 күн бұрын
Tottenham London England Interesting
@mrmarmellow555
@mrmarmellow555 14 күн бұрын
This Yank is #Has_know 🥹💭ℹ️DEA Of What #THE_NORTH Of Britain 😢🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Itz Never Been Anything Like #Miss🍵'sip'pee!! Especially in The #LAST_2000 YRS!!
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 17 күн бұрын
It should be note the Labour Party only won 34% of the vote… yet on 2/3 of seats in Parliament. The reason for the massive win was because the conservative vote was split.
@Fringe31422au
@Fringe31422au 17 күн бұрын
Not just that, but massive tactical voting to consolidate support on the left.
@pelagionyx
@pelagionyx 17 күн бұрын
Eh, the Tories lost *some* seats due to Reform, but Labour also smashed the SNP and spread their vote more efficiently than under Corbyn, and the Lib Dems painted the South orange. Painting the results as just being the result of the right fracturing is incorrect.
@merrymachiavelli2041
@merrymachiavelli2041 17 күн бұрын
The left/centre vote was even more split. From an ideological perspective, there was very little difference between Labour and the Lib Dems this election, given Labour pitched to the centre. There was also little ideological difference between Labour and the SNP, except for the obvious topic of Scottish Independence. The Greens are to the left of Labour. Labour + Lib Dems + SNP + Greens = 54.8% of the vote. Conservative + Reform = 38% Reform seriously damaged the Conservatives, but there _was_ a clear left-of-centre majority of vote share.
@Xerus35
@Xerus35 17 күн бұрын
Won fair and square.
@joanyoon4672
@joanyoon4672 17 күн бұрын
​@@merrymachiavelli2041thank you for the explanation.
@adtastic1533
@adtastic1533 17 күн бұрын
Americans shouldn't discuss foreign politics. No1 The outgoing Tories were hardly small Govt. For example, they gave the UK the highest tax burden in history. In fact the new Labour Govt will be passing even more market friendly reforms. No2 this result hardly signifies the British public shifting Left. Labour got their worst vote total in 20years and still won. The real story of this election was Tory voters either staying home or voting for Farage's far-Right populist party. This election was a thumbs down to incompetent management and Tory sleaze. It was nothing about policy. Starmer has a really short leash here. He'll find he doesn't have enough money to do much about anything. And when the British public find out that austerity is the new normal, and not just an evil Tory plot, I don't expect them to react well to a Labour party that lied to them all these years.
@carelgoodheir692
@carelgoodheir692 14 күн бұрын
You missed out some bits of the "real story". The richest seats in England made a huge switch towards the Lib Dems (or even Greens). Tories have had a drubbing before - but were usually second in the seats they lost. This time they were as likely to be third or fourth. (((A very different election happened in Scotland - with an actual shift towards Labour from an equally Left of Centre party.))) Voters here proved to be more sophisticated than usual, with a lot of sensibly conducted tactical voting. Labour promised very little and stressed that what they did promise would be impossible without economic growth. If there's not enough growth, but people see that that was beyond Labour's control, they may well continue to shun the Right. Especially if the current cat fight between Braverman and Badenoch is to be the new norm among leaders within the Tory/Reform side of UK politics!!
@-tom-8720
@-tom-8720 14 күн бұрын
This is a sound analysis expect Reform is the centre of centre right (more moderate than Thatcher, who is the embodiment of centre right), the tories are centre left, Labour Left, and greens Far Left.
@carelgoodheir692
@carelgoodheir692 14 күн бұрын
@@-tom-8720 I've been around since long before Thatcher'screign and you're talking nonsense. But doubtless you know some other people who talk the same nonsense so enjoy being nonsensical together🙂
@CarlosIowa
@CarlosIowa 16 күн бұрын
CENTER LEFT. No more cukoo bananas Far Left or Far Right. Please!
@-tom-8720
@-tom-8720 14 күн бұрын
The centre left is the Tory party.
@discerningmood2674
@discerningmood2674 17 күн бұрын
Because the people have gotten more right wing than the Conservative Party so the vote split between right wing parties landed with Labour having the most votes
@carelgoodheir692
@carelgoodheir692 14 күн бұрын
"The people"?? The Centre Left got way more votes than the combined Right - or do only those on the Right count as "the people" with you?
@bybodidotcom
@bybodidotcom 14 күн бұрын
Life expectancy for men in London is ten years more than in Liverpool.
@macflod
@macflod 16 күн бұрын
To defeat populism all that needs to happen is people have to feel their lives are getting better, then the populists become nutters again
@-tom-8720
@-tom-8720 14 күн бұрын
Not with mass immigration as a factor tho the public will only continue to get angrier at this matter if left unchecked no matter what happens with the economy
@macflod
@macflod 13 күн бұрын
@@-tom-8720 only because the media offer it as reason for everything being bad. Tories purposely left the issue to get worse so they had something to offer everyone as a reason for why things suck.
@algernonsidney8746
@algernonsidney8746 12 күн бұрын
A populist is anyone who serves middle and working class voters . In other words all parties in liberal democracies act like populists wether they are sincere or not.
@avengemybreath3084
@avengemybreath3084 17 күн бұрын
The primary political issue across the West is mass immigration. More specifically, whether opposing it (as most voters do) is allowable, or whether opposition is considered illegitimate.
@Nr4747
@Nr4747 17 күн бұрын
Idiotic comment laden with disinformation. In a democracy, you're always allowed your opinion, but what you - and everybody else screaming "I'm not allowed my opinion !" - actually want is for everybody to *agree* with your opinion. That will simply never be the case precisely because different opinions are allowed in a democracy.
@mimo5853
@mimo5853 17 күн бұрын
Opposing ANY government policy is allowable. Especially when it’s a policy that is literally destroying your country and making it an unrecognizable husk of what it was. Mass immigration and illegal migration is deliberately being used as a tool to destroy western countries.
@cncshrops
@cncshrops 15 күн бұрын
No, it really isn't. The NHS in Britain, precarity and falling living standards all top the polls.
@Nr4747
@Nr4747 15 күн бұрын
In a democracy, opposition is always allowed - but you're not guaranteed that everyone will agree with a specific opinion, which is what some people are really after.
@avengemybreath3084
@avengemybreath3084 15 күн бұрын
@@Nr4747 tell that to the media, academia, big tech, and every other institution that is actively attacking and censoring anyone who voices the slightest dissent.
@norcatch
@norcatch 16 күн бұрын
They like seeing an Asian doctor in the hospital, but not down the pub or on the street.
@jakedemaggio8649
@jakedemaggio8649 15 күн бұрын
No, they like neither…
@kabivose
@kabivose 15 күн бұрын
I don't actually know anyone that thinks replacing a Greek doctor with a Nigerian one is a wonderful thing. But there again i don't know anyone that thought having their freedom of movement removed was good either. What everyone in the conversation seems to have missed is that people weren't enthusiastically voting for Labour; most were voting tactically to get the tories out.
@norcatch
@norcatch 15 күн бұрын
@@kabivose There are plenty saying that.
@chesterdonnelly1212
@chesterdonnelly1212 15 күн бұрын
We prefer English doctors
@norcatch
@norcatch 15 күн бұрын
@@chesterdonnelly1212 Good for you. There's not enough of them, and the ones you have feel underpaid.
@dnightwalker
@dnightwalker 15 күн бұрын
That picture looks like an older version of the lead actor of "A Good Girl's Guide To Murder".
@benedictcowell6547
@benedictcowell6547 16 күн бұрын
I'm Free I don't like to boast, but Communist as I am, I would be a better leader of the Tory Party than any of the touted candidates And I shall explain why! First of all, although I am of German-Jewish and Irish descent I possess a greater real affection for the English than Farage or Badenoch, of Priti Patel or Michael Gove. And I have affection for its culture, and even silly things such as afternoon tea, and the English Breakfast, and even its whimsy and incongruities. I love its landscapes, and its weather, and I love its institutions such as the MCC, and Wimbledon, and its natural life. I do not like hunting, but I can think of arguments in favour of it, better ones than Cameron has produced, and I love its diversity, and I love its literature and its language, one of the richest languages I know. , I have never heard a recent Tory Party politician mention any of that, just ideology of reaction. I love its traditions and I find that I have more in common with Methodist North of England, and the Chapel Traditions of Wales, and I have not a little sympathy with Ireland, and Scotland, which have been badly let down by Unionism. I have a love affair with the UK, and it is built on things you do not hear mentioned. The many different dialects, the interesting ways and expressions that are part of my experience, despite being away from it often, and loving France, and Germany and Italy. You only have to read some of the books which are so British, so totally an ineffably rooted in the experience of all of us. I could honour British Rail more than to sell it off, and the British Police, it is not that any of these are without faults but none the less they have generally a disposition to serve the public, and I admire the fact that they don't have guns. I love the British service uniforms, they are so totally without pomp, I admire its history although I am not impressed by slavery or colonies. There are memories, I love the BBC before it was subverted by Murdoch, the TUC, the eccentricity of this people, but you do not here about that. It is not that I would want no change, no reform, I would strengthen the Privy Council, I would want a Royal Family of the style of Princess Anne, who I adore. As for the incongruities, well if you have been in Science, then you get to know some people of all classes, and actually when you have something in common, there are no classes. The secretary of a Natural History Trust who was a Weaver, and the president who is a duke, and you would not know because their passion is Warblers, or you meet a former foreign secretary, and although we were initially expected to disagree, actually we shared a passion for opera, and cricket, and we forgot the accents, and we forgot the ideology and by the end of the week-end we were friends, and were I to meet him again, I know what I want to say to him. Something I forgot to mention. I recall driving on the Foss way on one of those summer days that English weather produces, and I recalled Ken Russell's film on Elgar and as the sound of the Introduction and Allegro for Strings recaptured the exhilaration of the English landscape a tractor came out of a farm driven by a Sikh, in a Turban, and true to the English nature I did not want to drive him away, I was just exhilarated by the contrasts, this diversity, that David Starkey denies, but it is there, and I want to conserve it, to cherish it, and that is what united those of us that Love England, as part of the UK, not as an enclave of nastiness and resentment and grievance but our all round eccentricity. But I do not hear that from these pretenders, these frauds, that ingratiate themselves with the worst. So if the Conservatives want a leader that can restore their fortunes, old as I am I think I could help and I offer myself, as a candidate. They won't have to worry about my age, or my Yorkshire accent, they won't have to worry if I prefer Beethoven to Delius, or prefer Thomas Mann to Patience Strong,. I took a German woman, one of the many that small men adore as goddess, because they are blonde, and have taste in dress, and... well never mind that is our business; but she said that no orchestra she knew could perform a program of Bizet, Haydn and Tchaikovski in one night and to justice to them all, as a British Orchestra, and she was delighted with even song in an English Cathedral. I took a Russian Colleague to the Barbican to see Turganev's 'A Month in the Country' and he said he had not seen a better production in any language as that. We are good ,actors, good musicians; a Lancashire girl was toast of Europe in the Post war years, but you don't hear of any that from the modern reactionaries, masquerading as Conservatives. They conserved nothing, they dismantled, eviscerated, it was not the immigrants, it was a an alien reactionary ideology that has damn near wrecked the country and almost destroyed the best of England. I want to repeat that what I find invidious in reactionaries is their caricature patriotism, their caricature of principle which when it is tested against behaviour is not only caricature but absurd and hypocritical and I return to that pedantic, strident Anne Widdicombe who storms out of the Anglican Church because she cannot worship her God, if a woman is the celebrant, [Her God, Lee's country, the possessive fear, the paranoia is obsessive, yes! An obsessive fear of reactionaries that pique themselves that their world, their church ,their country is exclusive of any other world or taste and must be defended or recovered come what may, but one wonder about their preciosity when the same woman that could not worship under say Lucy Winkett can join an outfit that endorses and is endorsed by a rapist and a Fraud to say the least, and I find that I do not want Anne's God, or Lee's country , at any price. I find I could not fight for that God or that country they want to protect or recover, and that is why Reform is for me beyond the Ethical Pale and those that succour it, or support it seem to me to be totally bereft of any principle to which I could subscribe and I could wish that none of my fellow country men were not so bereft either. So just call if you want a leader instead of a posture, and empty rhetoric and Ideology. As they say on that television show' I'm free'.
@sasserine
@sasserine 15 күн бұрын
Bravo. Spoken like a true patriot.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
John F Kennedy did a massive tax cut and it led to increased revenue for the US government. (It was LBJ who did it).
@Kidderman2210
@Kidderman2210 16 күн бұрын
Ah so that is the answer to everything is it? Just cuit taxes and everything will be all right? Remind me again why Liz Truss resigned?
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
@@Kidderman2210 That is not what I said. The taxes in the USA were stiffling the economy. Look up "revenue act of 1964" and read about it.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
@@Kidderman2210 Liz Truss resigned because she was a poor communicator. She acted without letting people know what she was doing and they reacted badly.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
@@Kidderman2210 So you think that taxing the hell out of everybody is a good thing. I can turn your statement around and weaponise it against you, too.
@carelgoodheir692
@carelgoodheir692 14 күн бұрын
@@rebeccanoble6797 Finance managers are of course people, but they weren't reacting to Truss's poor communication. They were reacting to the utter idiocy of what she tried to implement.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
This report is so amateurish and just does not understand the UK situation. It is just tropes and cannards.
@OolTube02
@OolTube02 16 күн бұрын
Labour didn't end conservative rule. They became conservatives and got elected into office with the intent of continuing conservatism.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
Which is, to all intents and purposes, the LEFT.
@-tom-8720
@-tom-8720 14 күн бұрын
That makes no sense, Labour are very far to the left at this point, Starmer is literally a troskyist. Tories are all lefties too obviously that's why reform is popular in the first place.
@OolTube02
@OolTube02 13 күн бұрын
@@-tom-8720 In my experience all the first-past-the-post systems, in which any third party is nothing but a vote-splitting spoiler, wind up with two right wing parties -- an extremist one and a slightly moderate one.
@etebol
@etebol 17 күн бұрын
This guy lost me when he said Trump is the líder of the world’s liberal views. Smh
@lindacampbell4195
@lindacampbell4195 17 күн бұрын
America needs to do the same VOTE BLUE to bring back Decency, Honesty, and Integrity to the American Politics by Voting out All Republican’s.
@ChickenNugNugz2
@ChickenNugNugz2 17 күн бұрын
Democrats doing all they can currently to basically hand the presidency to someone who hates democracy and the USA
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 17 күн бұрын
We’ve had blue for the last four years, it’s been terrible. Endless migration and spending, inflation, degenerates, run the streets, crime wave, it’s been horrible.
@user-ee1zb1fn3y
@user-ee1zb1fn3y 17 күн бұрын
Exactly the opposite of what you said
@danliddiard
@danliddiard 17 күн бұрын
We are already "Blue", so clearly that's hasn't worked.
@hwadeiv
@hwadeiv 17 күн бұрын
#1 comment
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 17 күн бұрын
They weren’t really conservative, you couldn’t tell any difference between them and the Labour Party. big government, big spending, open borders for 14 years
@crose7412
@crose7412 13 күн бұрын
@Agtsmirnoff I could tell the difference(s) although I concede that you lack this ability.
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 13 күн бұрын
@@crose7412 what difference?
@crose7412
@crose7412 13 күн бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff When you watched Prime Minister's Questions, did you ever see the two parties agree about anything?
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 13 күн бұрын
@@crose7412 actions speak louder than words, and in actions, They are pretty much the same.
@crose7412
@crose7412 13 күн бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff "Pretty much" means not exactly therefore there are differences.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
The uk economy is not "struggling".
@extrude22
@extrude22 14 күн бұрын
It is. Wages have been stagnant for 14 years
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 14 күн бұрын
@@extrude22 uk wages are not stagnant.
@extrude22
@extrude22 13 күн бұрын
@@rebeccanoble6797 They have been since 2010
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 13 күн бұрын
@@extrude22 sorry. You're wrong. " 5.8 percent The average annual salary for full-time workers in the United Kingdom was 34,963 British pounds in 2023. Compared with the previous year this represented an annual increase of 5.8 percent, one of the fastest annual earning growth rates since 2000."
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 13 күн бұрын
@@extrude22 Don't try that again.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
Brexit was only a shock to the silly people who didn't see it coming. I am a BREXIT voter and supporter. We Did NOT CUT TIES with the EU COUNTRIES. We HAVE a Tariff and quota free TCA with the EU. Our economy is doing BETTER than EU countries. This report is a LOAD OF TWADDLE.
@renataszyda5545
@renataszyda5545 16 күн бұрын
Numbers don’t lie-look at them, people do even when they desperately try to convince others and themselves otherwise by writing words in capital letters😊
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
@@renataszyda5545 I can EMPHASISE any way I _want._ So stop telling me what to do. You must know I'm going to totally ingnore you anyway.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
@@renataszyda5545 1. BREXIT was only a "shock" to people who did not anticipate that 52% of the people who cast a ballot would vote to end EU membership.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
@@renataszyda5545 2. We have NOT, repeat, NOT, "cut ties" with EU countries. That is absolute NONSENSE.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
@@renataszyda5545 3. We have a tariff and quota free TCA with the EU and we are actually trading with the EU.
@user-ee1zb1fn3y
@user-ee1zb1fn3y 17 күн бұрын
Because the Tories were the Labour party with a blue tie. The voters figured it out and punished them. - Thanks for listening and goodbye.
@carelgoodheir692
@carelgoodheir692 14 күн бұрын
That story washes among a few Reform activists but not anywhere else. The Far Left's story that Labour are Tories with a red tie will convince a few more (on their side). But most of us know that to run the UK parties have to find whatever is the current centre ground and currently that centre ground is somewhat to the Left of what the Tories have offered us since Cameron.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
1. Immigration. The fact they did not deal with illegal immigrants. 2. The fact the prevaricated and dragged their feet over BREXIT and DID NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE of brexit. 3. Sheer incompetence.
@ChickenNugNugz2
@ChickenNugNugz2 16 күн бұрын
@@rebeccanoble6797 take advantage of Brexit? That's an odd way of phrasing it. Does a car crash victim "take advantage" of their amputation?
@user-ib9ky2jo9h
@user-ib9ky2jo9h 16 күн бұрын
@@ChickenNugNugz2 shes clearly taking advantage of a traumatic brain injury
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
@@ChickenNugNugz2 There we go with the false anti brexit analogies. You've tried all this stuff for years. It won't work. The UK is out of the EU and we are NOT going to "rejoin" it. So stop wasting your time and mine.
@proton8689
@proton8689 15 күн бұрын
@@rebeccanoble6797 not rejoining it will make the UK a backwards poor country. Poor.
@carelgoodheir692
@carelgoodheir692 14 күн бұрын
@@rebeccanoble6797 We're not going to rejoin any time soon. But we're not going to forget who inflicted that loss on us. If you don't like that, tough.
@garyb5998
@garyb5998 17 күн бұрын
Vote Biden Vote anti Lunatic Fascist 💙
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 17 күн бұрын
Sorry, can’t vote for demented candidates
@garyb5998
@garyb5998 17 күн бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff ok question.? Off the 2 dementia candidates whom is more likely to protect your right to democracy in the future.....kinda who is better with the crayons
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 17 күн бұрын
@@garyb5998 Trump. Biden’s plan is to import so many new people and give them voting rights that it makes my vote irrelevant
@RealMTBAddict
@RealMTBAddict 17 күн бұрын
​@@garyb5998only Biden has dementia...
@Xerus35
@Xerus35 17 күн бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff Trump told people to inject bleach into their arm to cure covid. That's as demented as it gets.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
The conservatives were not "right wing". They were left. LEFT. Like they all are.
@Kidderman2210
@Kidderman2210 16 күн бұрын
You mean they have left. Hopefully for good. Bye bye.
@user-ib9ky2jo9h
@user-ib9ky2jo9h 16 күн бұрын
lmao imagine being so den.se you think right is left.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
@@Kidderman2210 Well it is of no consequence to me.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
@@user-ib9ky2jo9h The conservatives are socialists, just lke the labour party. There is no difference between them.
@rebeccanoble6797
@rebeccanoble6797 16 күн бұрын
@@user-ib9ky2jo9h Imagine being brought up in an era where YOU think that LEFT is "centre".
@wade2bosh
@wade2bosh 14 күн бұрын
this is not a left wing win. its a reform party win.
@crose7412
@crose7412 13 күн бұрын
@wade2bosh Reform winning 5 seats out of 650 is utterly insignificant.
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