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Why British People Can't Donate Blood in America

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@geniusgamer3840
@geniusgamer3840 3 жыл бұрын
"Ending the practice of feeding cows to other cows was a solid step in the right direction" *You don't say*
@thelambsauce1701
@thelambsauce1701 3 жыл бұрын
Hm maybe cannibalism is.....not good?
@idontwanttopickone
@idontwanttopickone 3 жыл бұрын
Americans haven't learnt the BSE lesson. Look up how pigs are fed waste from the Vegas strip. They are given everything from pig meat to used condoms. It's pretty well documented on KZfaq.
@louiseng7272
@louiseng7272 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a documentary about cannabalism in Papua New Guinea and the natives developed symptoms similar to mad cow disease....this link is talking about that original documentary. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mdtjlMSK0rrIlps.html
@dankdreamz
@dankdreamz 3 жыл бұрын
What you may be missing is when looking at history we have the our current perspectives to weigh against. If we were living in the period we are looking at we would not have the insight we currently have. This leads people to mistakenly believe they are smart. When in fact they are not.
@danatronics9039
@danatronics9039 3 жыл бұрын
@@thelambsauce1701 Cownnibalism
@hornetluca
@hornetluca 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Italy and just this morning I donated my blood. Before donating I have to fill a form and one of those questions is if I was in England in the 80's. Now I understand why.
@wordsareswords
@wordsareswords 3 жыл бұрын
Fortunately you are not mad cow 😉
@hornetluca
@hornetluca 3 жыл бұрын
@@wordsareswords I'm just mad 🤭
@runningfromabear8354
@runningfromabear8354 3 жыл бұрын
I'm British but I haven't been able to donate blood since I lived in the UK. I lived in Germany, England, Scotland, Ireland, Spain, France, Denmark, England, Canada, USA, turned 18 and moved to England, Canada, Germany, USA and Canada. And that's just which countries I lived in, I've moved more than that. I don't even try to donate anymore. They think I'm a mad cow everywhere I go, no one wants my blood.
@hornetluca
@hornetluca 3 жыл бұрын
@@runningfromabear8354 sorry to hear that
@ikreer9777
@ikreer9777 3 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine was in the UK during the mad cow outbreak. Her professor husband was doing a research sabbatical and they spent 2 semesters there. And were banned from blood or tissue donation after returning to the States. She was upset when she was banned from bone marrow donation when a friend developed leukemia, over a decade after their stint in the UK.
@Vysair
@Vysair 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that there's a disease that can be silent, survived modern medicine, very lethal and considerably infectious exist is haunting.
@user-zy4wv7yx1z
@user-zy4wv7yx1z 3 жыл бұрын
You think CJD is scary, then don't google chronic wasting disease in deer. And definitely don't google how those prions can remain in the soil for an unknown length of time, and reinfect deer that eat in the area.
@guilhermer4375
@guilhermer4375 3 жыл бұрын
And prions aren’t the only variation of diseases we should worry about. There’s viruses such as covid, bacteria, and even fungi. That’s why more investment in epidemiology and disease control are a MUST from now on
@cortster12
@cortster12 3 жыл бұрын
@@llamawalrushybrid Prions aren't alive. In fact, they're even less alive than viruses. They're proteins that cause abnormal folding by turning non-prions into more of themselves, like self-replicating cookie-cutters that cause our cells to stop functioning properly, usually brain cells.
@kellisuzuki8889
@kellisuzuki8889 3 жыл бұрын
and that makes it so much scarier, a freak of nature that originates from chance out of the own victim. Kinda like cancer, but infectious.
@jaredf6205
@jaredf6205 3 жыл бұрын
You also can’t destroy prions. If a surgical patient in a hospital has a prion disease, they have to literally incinerate everything in the room, and it can’t still survive incineration.
@aliccolo
@aliccolo 3 жыл бұрын
My brother-in-law's mother died of CJD last year and it was absolutely horrific. She started experiencing tremors and memory loss in early April, went into a coma in late April, and passed in early May. Due to the nature of the disease she couldn't be diagnosed until after death. Completely devastating for the entire family to see a healthy woman suddenly taken. One day she was fine, the next she was on an irreversible path toward death. RIP, Rose. Your granddaughters and family miss you so much.
@mariakutsy2178
@mariakutsy2178 3 жыл бұрын
My condolences. My father passed away from this diseases last August. He was only 47 and was the healthiest person I have ever known. I don't want anyone to have such faight.
@anitamjenkins
@anitamjenkins 3 жыл бұрын
So sorry for your loss and empathize! My mom died of sCJD in 2010. It was horrifying to witness her decline.
@clueless_cutie
@clueless_cutie 3 жыл бұрын
My sincerest condolences. This is why a sweeping ban was adopted - to spare other people and their families the pain and suffering of losing a loved one to this awful disease. I fully supported the bans and have had to explain to donors why we couldn't take their blood. I understand they're trying to help and want to help, but precautions are very much necessary until we have a readily available test to identify bad donors. No one deserves to suffer like that.
@jothishprabu8
@jothishprabu8 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry
@aliccolo
@aliccolo 3 жыл бұрын
She was my sister's mother-in-law.
@thinkscotty
@thinkscotty 3 жыл бұрын
I’m American but lived in Scotland as a a child. Can confirm, nobody here ever wants my blood.
@xmlthegreat
@xmlthegreat 3 жыл бұрын
It's vampire racism... It's disgusting. They hate gingers because blood doesn't rate good without a soul.
@DaimyoD0
@DaimyoD0 3 жыл бұрын
I want your blood. But I'm not a doctor. 😈
@TheMr77469
@TheMr77469 3 жыл бұрын
Well at least you don't get robocalls for blood donation.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 3 жыл бұрын
@@xmlthegreat - I saw a ginger walking down the street the other day wearing clothes, shoes and a little hat - so cute :D it thinks its people :D
@walangchahangyelingden8252
@walangchahangyelingden8252 3 жыл бұрын
Here come the Ginger comments.
@stax6092
@stax6092 3 жыл бұрын
It still bothers me that we ever forced cannibalism on our livestock.
@nevergetsthejoke1844
@nevergetsthejoke1844 3 жыл бұрын
😵‍💫
@hermitmoth6118
@hermitmoth6118 3 жыл бұрын
'Forced' implies that any of the livestock are remotely so picky.
@tissuepaper9962
@tissuepaper9962 3 жыл бұрын
Bone and blood meal is high-protein, high-fat food that supplements the unbalanced diet of grains we already give livestock. There's really nothing inherently bad about cannibalism except that it offends our widdle human sensibilities. Biologically, protein is protein, calories are calories, a hungry hog will eat anything really. Prion diseases weren't caused by cannibalism, that practice simply accelerated their spread among susceptible ruminant livestock, which is why it was banned in that particular case. As long as you follow the guidelines designed to prevent the spread of disease (don't feed ruminants to ruminants is the main one) there's no problem. It would be incredibly stupid (not to mention even less sustainable than cattle raising already is) to let all of those unused animal parts sit and rot.
@penlavits3305
@penlavits3305 3 жыл бұрын
I saw some cannibal chickens eating each other
@ycp4425
@ycp4425 3 жыл бұрын
Search for kuru disease.
@Timmie1995
@Timmie1995 3 жыл бұрын
The cows probably never noticed, but feeding cows to other cows seems incredibly unethical, even cruel
@40watt53
@40watt53 3 жыл бұрын
like anyone cares about cow ethics
@Timmie1995
@Timmie1995 3 жыл бұрын
@@40watt53 Well, at least 29 people do, apparently
@indianasb59
@indianasb59 3 жыл бұрын
@@Timmie1995 as 40 Watt says, as he is munching on his cereal and suddenly realizes he is chewing the cud of his auntie whomever.
@rosaking3825
@rosaking3825 3 жыл бұрын
I nurse a women wit sCJD in an Acute mental health ward. It was heart breaking. The person went from walking and being pleasant, to losing their ability to walk, speaking with difficulty and battering staff for hours at a time within a week. It was truly heartbreaking to see.
@lw1zfog
@lw1zfog 3 ай бұрын
indeed, Prion disease is exceedingly grim, as many more will now find out
@kenmohler4081
@kenmohler4081 3 жыл бұрын
I’m an American who spent a lot of time in England in the early 80s. I learned that I was banned from giving blood when my collie and I went to a human/canine blood drive. I was turned down, but my collie was not only accepted, but was found to be a universal donor, something rare in dogs who have many more blood types than we do. Of course they didn’t ask about my time in England until they had punctured me in three places to get samples. But as a result, I have a treasured photo of the two of us with matching bandages on our front “legs.”
@KirbyLinkACW
@KirbyLinkACW 3 жыл бұрын
Today I learned that there are blood drives for dogs.
@kyles5997
@kyles5997 3 жыл бұрын
That’s weird
@Sofiaode18
@Sofiaode18 3 жыл бұрын
Cute
@igor-yp1xv
@igor-yp1xv 3 жыл бұрын
♥️♥️♥️ my dog passed away a few days ago. this story is probably a very nice memory for you.
@kenmohler4081
@kenmohler4081 3 жыл бұрын
It certainly does. Toby was a great dog. I’m sorry you have lost your furry friend. I can only tell you that with time, your memories will turn from sad into happy. But it’s not a quick process.
@Vixterlk
@Vixterlk 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in 1996 and my mother actually went on a strictly vegetarian diet while she was pregnant with me because of concerns surrounding mad cow disease.
@ptmnc1
@ptmnc1 3 жыл бұрын
Having grown up in the UK I've been a strict vegetarian since 1986 - before the first UK BSE confirmation and before the US stopped importing UK cattle - and they still won't let me donate blood in the US.
@Vixterlk
@Vixterlk 3 жыл бұрын
@Cristofer Andrade actually at the same time there was also a salmonella risk with chickens and eggs. Also the smell of pork cooking made her feel sick while she was pregnant so she didn't particularly want to eat that either and she's allergic to fish. So the contaminated beef wasn't the sole reason behing her decision but it was a major deciding factor. So really there weren't really any drawbacks to going vegetarian, the doctors monitoring her health were happy that she and I were healthy and getting all of the nutrients that she needed so there really wasn't a problem.
@Vixterlk
@Vixterlk 3 жыл бұрын
@Dmon ! I didn't say anywhere in there in my original post that it wasn't transferable in any other way, nor that a meat based diet was unhealthy. However, it was her doctors that advised her not to eat certain meats at the time due to the diseases that could be within them. Because of that and the fact that the smell of meat cooking made her feel sick when she was pregnant, she decided that it would just be simpler to go vegetarian. Then, after I was born she went back to eating meat at some point and still eats meat now. But even if she had decided to remain vegetarian it wouldn't have been a problem. As, like a meat based diet, a properly balanced plant based diet can also be perfectly healthy.
@mikeg8276
@mikeg8276 3 жыл бұрын
Your mother was smart. Idk why anyone would think otherwise 🤷‍♂️
@Vixterlk
@Vixterlk 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeg8276 I think some people see "vegetarian" and get butthurt. Like I'm gonna come at them for enjoying a burger or something. 😂
@Gpz0
@Gpz0 3 жыл бұрын
5:34 "Cows are often feed the remains of other cows" that's a horrible beyond words...
@jmcenanly1
@jmcenanly1 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like "Soylent Green" for cattle.
@dMi_mi
@dMi_mi 3 жыл бұрын
😶 I am still shocked. I don't kno what to think.. I never knew this is a thing, yet legal 😶 how it can be legal.. n how people can think this is alright, just like a regular thing You kno.. honestly I just feel like trowin up. 😓
@Gpz0
@Gpz0 3 жыл бұрын
@@dMi_mi It's not legal like it was back then, but they're still being fed their own indirectly. Cow are herbivores but are still being fed the remains of other animals who in turn were fed the remains of cows.
@dMi_mi
@dMi_mi 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gpz0 it's soo wrong.😔 that would never happen naturally in nature.. a cow wouldn't choose to munch another cow 😶 or d chicken wouldn't munch a cow ether.. 🙄
@foosic1742
@foosic1742 3 жыл бұрын
@@dMi_mi cannibalism is very common in nature. Chickens very often eat their own kind, and almost all animals on Earth would eat any type of meat given the chance, its just that herbivores don't have the proper hardware to hunt for their own.
@ElizabethMotoe
@ElizabethMotoe 3 жыл бұрын
It amazes me that only 30 years ago we figured out that making cows become cannibals is a bad idea. Humans are not as advance as we think we are!
@Cathal7707
@Cathal7707 3 жыл бұрын
All in the name of a few cents profit
@Cissonius
@Cissonius 3 жыл бұрын
you do realize that cows dont care what they eat yea? as long as its edible. they have been observed eating anything from flys to carrion. they dont have the mental frame work of morality, not to that degree. they only care if its food not what we think about the food. however i do agree that the mismanagement of their food that lead it to that point is detestable.
@theemirofjaffa2266
@theemirofjaffa2266 3 жыл бұрын
"We figured out" I guess you mean your part of the world mate. Nowhere else know earth do they feed animals with other animals esp of the same species.
@Caroline.123
@Caroline.123 3 жыл бұрын
Some humans are not advance and it was a money making thing
@jackster2568
@jackster2568 3 жыл бұрын
@@theemirofjaffa2266 is there a citation for that or is it another useless statement pulled out from the 3rd worlds ass?
@A_Box
@A_Box 3 жыл бұрын
I think you missed the part where prions survive autoclaving, acidic treatment, caustic treatment, ionizing radiation, and so on... This thing just doesn't go away! Prions are not like other diseases as the video implies.
@3mar00ss6
@3mar00ss6 3 жыл бұрын
so basically prions are the literal ultimate fuck you disease (՞ ᗜ ՞)
@DaimyoD0
@DaimyoD0 3 жыл бұрын
I heard there have been instances of prions remaining infectious in topsoil after more than a decade of exposure to sunlight and weather! I also wish they had been a little more explicit about how prions reproduce. Unlike bacteria which reproduce through fission and viruses that hijack human ribosomes to manufacture their proteins, prions are not even alive and contain no genetic material. They are just proteins that are misfolded in such a way that they can perform metabolism-metabolism that can misfold healthy proteins with which the prions come into contact, in turn changing the healthy proteins into prions. Before you know it, all these healthy proteins are consumed, neurons can't perform basic functions, and they die. This forms the brain lesions. It makes me think of the fictitious Ice-9 from Cat's Cradle, acting as a seed crystal that turns all water on Earth into Ice-9, or the theoretical strange quark matter, which would convert into a strange star any planet unfortunate enough to get in the way of infinitesimal droplets of the stuff, flying silently through space after being liberated from the core of a neutron star. When I first learned about prions in high school, it was very formative to my understanding of the definition of life, and changed my worldview at the time. It helped me realize that biotic structures are simply assortments of self-sustaining chemical reactions we classify with a list of characteristics, most important of which, is the ability to self-replicate. That epiphany I had in my sophomore year bio class directly lead to my decision to study biology as a career.
@NotAverageAfro
@NotAverageAfro 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaimyoD0 shits scary yo. I'd rather have actual Alzheimer's than this. If it came to it and they were like "youve got CJD" I'd figure out my finances asap then go take myself to the woods
@Mia-ln1zs
@Mia-ln1zs 3 жыл бұрын
Well, prions aren't just one thing. It depends on a lot of factors whether they actually remain disruptive. Such as the type of prion it is.
@harsh3624
@harsh3624 3 жыл бұрын
That's very interesting. Thank you for sharing.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 3 жыл бұрын
About a week before she died in 1984 my grandmother received a blood transfusion. Not long after she passed we got a call from the hospital. Not knowing she had already passed they asked us to come in because the unit of blood she had received was infected with HIV. Blood safety today is much better, but it's still not perfect.
@barbaraagal1282
@barbaraagal1282 3 жыл бұрын
My grandmother also died shortly from receiving a blood transfusion. She was in her late 90's, and had a rare blood disorder
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 3 жыл бұрын
@@barbaraagal1282 Sorry to hear that. My grandmother's death had nothing to do with the blood transfusion She had emphysema.
@Splexsychiick
@Splexsychiick 3 жыл бұрын
Damn
@user-dg3ug7ny5d
@user-dg3ug7ny5d 3 жыл бұрын
My condolences. I'm studying about HIV-AIDS right now, so it's interesting that the lack of blood safety was still such a large cause of additional deaths despite being in the 3rd year after it's original discovery. The fact that intravenous drug users and people with chronic blood diseases were, and are still, put through such horrors is really saddening. Their deaths are often by accident, having not been told the risk or believing that it's worth the risk because it's an essential treatment for their disease or illness.
@littleboots9800
@littleboots9800 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the Hepatitis C scandal was down to the practice of buying blood from the US which was donated by prisoners. Many kids contracted Hep C and HIV before the practice was stopped.
@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810
@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 3 жыл бұрын
2 cows are standing in a field. One turns to the other and says "are you worried about mad cow disease?" The looks back and says "nah, I'm a giraffe."
@WolfLykaios
@WolfLykaios 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, good one
@Rumassassin
@Rumassassin 3 жыл бұрын
Had to think for a second there
@nahometesfay1112
@nahometesfay1112 2 жыл бұрын
Cause adult female giraffes are also called cows, and they also got the splotches
@alaylaburkhart5940
@alaylaburkhart5940 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in the UK when the whole mad-cow thing was going on. Growing up in the US, it was a little confusing trying to explain to people during High School blood drives why I couldn't volunteer to donate.
@jpslayermayor9293
@jpslayermayor9293 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Nottingham as kid 79-83. What I do when going over questionnaire or telling nurse why I cant donate is do that super fast head jerk thing that is used tp indicate insanity etc. then say, " I haven't noticed any problems at all Its ridiculous how paranoid everyone is! "
@jortand
@jortand 3 жыл бұрын
It was common practice to feed deceased cows to other cows??? I guess you learn something new every day. Great video !
@nnelg8139
@nnelg8139 3 жыл бұрын
beef contains all the nutrients a cow needs!
@KX36
@KX36 3 жыл бұрын
recycling.
@placeholdernameisplacehold7671
@placeholdernameisplacehold7671 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, it was more of an accident. Cows feed would have added offal. Where the waste meat and bone from slaughter would be roasted and made into a mixture that can be added to animal feed for extra protein. It wasn't supposed to contain raw meat or meat of the same species. But contamination occured during production.
@deadfIag
@deadfIag 3 жыл бұрын
Eating domesticated processed red meat is a death sentence, that's likely not even the worst aspect about our animal agriculture.
@KittinPyro
@KittinPyro 3 жыл бұрын
No actually, Beef COULD NOT contain all the nutrients a cow needs, because cows are STRICTLY Herbivores. Even if the original cows that where fed to other cows had been given a diet that did contain all their vitamins, minerals and (etc.), Those nutrients are lost overtime because the cow uses up those things to keep its body in working order, So eventually, the cow being fed to the new cow won’t have any of those things left at all. Also a herbivore trying to eat meat has got to be hell on their digestive system. Kinda like people with lactose intolerance eating ONLY foods with lactose.
@KittinPyro
@KittinPyro 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, so imagine feeling 100% all of the time, living an active, fit and healthy lifestyle. -One day your asked to participate in a random study; You figure, “What’s the harm?”, and accept. Your then told that you have a disease with 100% fatality rate and that your going to slowly die while you brain is turned into a sponge. Talk about yikes!
@nevadag606
@nevadag606 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought, they mentioned it so casually.... like the absolute devastation that study brought into those people’s lives.. they said like 2.6 years before onset of symptoms, so they lived knowing and waiting for it to start. Horrifying
@solcutta3661
@solcutta3661 3 жыл бұрын
U missed the point... 80% of us are ALREADY infected but show no symptoms.. In other words its sat inactive... For now. Lol
@Jehty_
@Jehty_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@solcutta3661 80%??? WTF no. At 1:15 they said 1:2000. Thats 0.05% How can you mistake 0.05% for 80%? Like seriously...
@SeabassFishbrains
@SeabassFishbrains 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh as a person with juvenile onset arthritis I stared at just the first half of you first sentence for a good minute and thought "Nope. Can't imagine it." I have never experienced what it feels like to not be in pain....
@user-pe2yx9kt4e
@user-pe2yx9kt4e 3 жыл бұрын
@@solcutta3661 I think my dog died because my family got into a fight and she was really stressed out. I could tell when I was leaving, when I looked into her eyes, how sad and scared and stressed she was. She got sick 2 days later and died a few months on, even though we tried almost everything we could to make her better. I killed her. I hate myself and I hate my life. She was only 6 and her breed was healthy and supposed to live long. I cried so much, and had a huge psoriasis breakout that I still haven’t been able to get rid of 2 years later, and it’s strange, but now I feel like I’m having some of the same health issues as my dog. I wanted to give her a good life and for her to be happy. She was in some ways because she was almost never on a leash and could go where she liked outside on our farm. But she almost never did because she wanted someone to be with her and play with her. So she would just sit outside the door and wait. I used to take good care of her, but my parents couldn’t always afford to give her the best food, and I got so busy with college that I couldn’t be there for her anymore (mostly on breaks the first three years, and I was so tired...). I started giving her really good food the last 2ish years, but I guess it was too late. I wish I had gone to community college and done an online degree program. I’m not having another dog for a long time. I couldn’t even be there for her a few days before she died, when I knew it was going to happen. She had seizures right before it happened, and my mom was there but I don’t think my mom is overly affectionate. I wanted to have her sleep in my bed before it happened, but I was too scared and busy. I feel like she thought she was alone. She was in so much pain and when she got sick and wasn’t getting better I could see in her eyes that she knew what was going to happen. She used to have so much energy too... she seemed to have an undercurrent of unhappiness, even though we did have good moments, in the time leading up to her death. My parents didn’t want to put her down, and... idk how I feel. Im glad she had a few more months, especially because she was so young, and there were good moments in there. It also scares me, and doesn’t feel right. But she was in pain and weak and couldn’t even really eat anymore, especially towards the end.
@erikadlloyd5586
@erikadlloyd5586 3 жыл бұрын
I just donated blood and I saw the question about living in the UK in that time period. No one could tell me what the question was about. Now I know.
@TheodoreBrosevelt
@TheodoreBrosevelt 2 жыл бұрын
This is my first time hearing about, I've only heard of people being turned away for STDs and other stuff
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the next question on that lists asks about Mad Cow Disease so that would explain it
@nevadag606
@nevadag606 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine that, human health, pivots on the quality of the food we consume. Quality comes from properly and humanely and sustainably taking care of our food sources.
@damikey18
@damikey18 3 жыл бұрын
It's always best to grow your own food and raise your own cattle.
@damikey18
@damikey18 3 жыл бұрын
@Mr Karenwell it is healthier and more reliable if you raise your own cattle and grow your own food.
@thebeanman99
@thebeanman99 3 жыл бұрын
So what I’m hearing is... the zombie apocalypse will start in England?
@Activesilver97
@Activesilver97 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fMl0m8eTm7CXooE.html 28 days later
@veiserexab1428
@veiserexab1428 3 жыл бұрын
Like Shaun of the dead
@Heisrisen237
@Heisrisen237 3 жыл бұрын
😄😄😄😂
@ardyn407necroderg
@ardyn407necroderg 3 жыл бұрын
@@Activesilver97 huh my thoughts exactly
@paddington1670
@paddington1670 3 жыл бұрын
China be like, "hold my chopsticks"
@Gamepro2112
@Gamepro2112 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not just the UK, it’s Germany too. I was born in Germany due to my dad being stationed there in the military, I’ve always been turned away from donating blood due to mad cow disease.
@DavGreg
@DavGreg 3 жыл бұрын
The DoD sourced beef in part from the UK for mess halls, AAFES facilities and the Commissary.
@pretzel_cat
@pretzel_cat 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was stationed in Germany in the late 80s. I gave blood a few times after that in the 90s, but since then they won’t let me donate. Edit: watched til the end and it seems the FDA has lifted the donation ban on military vets now.
@danielgstohl9993
@danielgstohl9993 3 жыл бұрын
@@SnoopyDoofie Good thing you're not in charge of deciding that 🤦
@LindaB651
@LindaB651 3 жыл бұрын
I was stationed in Germany in the early 80's and used to give blood, until they deferred me for possible vCJD. Last autumn they contacted me, and I again went through their checklist- lo and behold, I can donate blood again.
@telecrate
@telecrate 3 жыл бұрын
You can donate blood now. Germany was removed from the deferral list last year along with most other European countries, see the revised guidance of FDA-2012-D-0307 (www.fda.gov/media/124156/download What remains are the UK, Ireland and France.
@santcoin4031
@santcoin4031 2 жыл бұрын
I lost my dad to CJD almost 4 years ago. Thank you for this video. It is not a common desease so funding for reasearch is very limited. Thank you for creating awareness. To my dad and dear friend, I miss you every day.
@siedliko
@siedliko 3 жыл бұрын
No wonder there are so many mad cows on the streets in UK.
@IDontModWTFz
@IDontModWTFz 3 жыл бұрын
Too many about
@alliesakat
@alliesakat 3 жыл бұрын
@Mr Karen lmao wut
@UnashamedlyHentai
@UnashamedlyHentai 3 жыл бұрын
Prion disease is why cannibals are portrayed as having the shakes in movies and stuff. Same basic idea.
@handlesarefeckinstupid
@handlesarefeckinstupid 3 жыл бұрын
Yet is none existent in the UK, any more so than in other countries.
@boulderbash19700209
@boulderbash19700209 3 жыл бұрын
@@handlesarefeckinstupid It was the Stanley Prusiner research on cannibals in Papua that shine a light on prions (the cannibals develop shaking symptoms that only affect women and children) and propagation on CJD. He was awarded Nobel Prize for it.
@jomelarguela1669
@jomelarguela1669 3 жыл бұрын
@@handlesarefeckinstupid r u sure though?
@grcarie
@grcarie 3 жыл бұрын
Different prions, but yes.
@boulderbash19700209
@boulderbash19700209 3 жыл бұрын
@@grcarie It's the same prion. Kuru is the late stage of BSE in human. As Prusiner concludes in his research, if human eats cattle with BSE, he will get CJD. Then if that human was eaten by cannibal, the cannibal will get Kuru. As why it affect mostly women and children, that has more horrible explanation. The men ate the flesh, women and children ate anything left after that, which include brain. So they get high dose of BSE prions, the one that was already primed for human cells.
@5055hunter
@5055hunter 3 жыл бұрын
I'm on the "can not donate" list. I have never visited England, but was stationed in W. Germany in the early 1980's. My understanding was that the USAF got their beef from England at that time, placing me on that list. EDIT: I was not aware that the ban had been lifted for military personnel! Great news, I can start donating again!!
@5055hunter
@5055hunter 3 жыл бұрын
@@WildnUnruly Agreed, those stationed in England are still banned. They only relaxed the ban for those NOT stationed in England.
@traumazombie3843
@traumazombie3843 3 жыл бұрын
What's with your sick desire to donate your filthy blood
@Aereto
@Aereto 3 жыл бұрын
@@traumazombie3843 To spread a contagious protein to other people and destroy brains when they are too old.
@precise1758
@precise1758 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you shouldn’t
@richthofen0005
@richthofen0005 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aereto “contagious protein”
@Dominicwylai
@Dominicwylai 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Brit living in Singapore and when I went in to give blood, they also rejected me for the same reason...
@travcollier
@travcollier 3 жыл бұрын
Worth remembering that those dire warnings about BSE potentially killing thousands didn't come true *because* of those drastic measures (at least in part.) Y2K is my goto example of where many people think something was over hyped or even fake when it didn't cause serious problems... Forgetting that lots of people worked very hard to keep those predictions from coming true.
@scheimong
@scheimong 3 жыл бұрын
When I first learned about prions years ago from Plague Inc, I immediately thought of the "grey goo nanobot scenario". Man, reality can really be scarier than fiction.
@_aullik
@_aullik 3 жыл бұрын
Prions are scarry Our body has very little ways of fighting it. Its interresting that they are not more common.
@3mar00ss6
@3mar00ss6 3 жыл бұрын
@@_aullik because prions are not an alive pathogen but are just a glitched protein and it's probably hard to find ones that are capable of effectively destroying other proteins
@_aullik
@_aullik 3 жыл бұрын
@@3mar00ss6 I mean eventually we get really unlucky and there will be a prion in a cyclical food chain. So scavengers eating dead hunters and hunters hunting the scavenger. If it is a slow acting one there isn't much we can do against it.
@3mar00ss6
@3mar00ss6 3 жыл бұрын
@@_aullik well maybe it doesn't cross species in nature and only our missed up way of making more cows caused such a glitch in nature, like prions are a literal fuck you to complex life forms I don't think they can just spread in nature on their own there is not enough cannibalism for it to happen 乁(゚ペ)ㄏ⁩
@Youmu_Konpaku_
@Youmu_Konpaku_ 3 жыл бұрын
Who knows, maybe one day prions just evolve water transmission 1 and air transmission 1 Then 2 years later you'll hear the total organ failure pop
@DaFinkingOrk
@DaFinkingOrk 3 жыл бұрын
I did my dissertation on prions - very scary stuff! But if we can affect them we may be able to cure Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and Huntington's disease for a start. Currently though, very scary stuff.
@randomcow505
@randomcow505 3 жыл бұрын
huntingtons is a prion disease?
@user-dg3ug7ny5d
@user-dg3ug7ny5d 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomcow505 From reading another comment, there's currently no direct evidence but the nature and primary disease affected location leads to a possible link between Huntington's disease and those similar being caused by prions.
@fishfan2
@fishfan2 3 жыл бұрын
What if we tried to engineer our own prion that could counter the affects of other prions
@Zack-fu4lo
@Zack-fu4lo 3 жыл бұрын
@@fishfan2 that sounds like the start of a zombie apocalypse
@fishfan2
@fishfan2 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zack-fu4lo true lol
@edmcguire9940
@edmcguire9940 3 жыл бұрын
My wife and I were stationed with the US Air Force in the UK in the 80’s, still can’t donate blood here.
@addicted2caffeine
@addicted2caffeine 3 жыл бұрын
fun fact: as a baker in the UK. we were told that it wasn't feeding meat to cows. it was feeding bakery goods that contained meat traces ie doughnuts.
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 3 жыл бұрын
@Dmon ! false, feeding cows to cows would've been fine (well not fine, but. Whatever). The issue is that cows were eating INFECTED cows, thus catching the disease themselves. Diseased cows were then being fed to humans, which made humans also catch the disease.
@pnonnymouse4840
@pnonnymouse4840 3 жыл бұрын
The problem as I understood it was that the feed that was used was not processed correctly. That is cooked at a high enough temperature to kill off the bacteria and viruses which are present in the disease animal.
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 3 жыл бұрын
@@pnonnymouse4840 the diseased animal doesn't have any virus or bacteria, they have prions (misfolded proteins) Did you even watch the video?
@pnonnymouse4840
@pnonnymouse4840 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that is known now. But then it was deemed that if they cooked the animal remains at a high enough temperature that this would kill off the problem. It was also deemed likely that it was a varient of a sheep disease scrapie. Which had possibly mutated into the BSE by putting diseased sheep into the animal feed chain. The prions was not explained correctly at the time. Sorry that I was not clear that I was talking about the information given to the British public at the time.
@addicted2caffeine
@addicted2caffeine 3 жыл бұрын
@Dmon ! source. I was a baker at a large supermarket chain. my manager told me saying they received notice on the change of disposal due to the discovery. however its highly probable that the bakery goods weren't the culprit. and that the chains decided to go OTT to cover their backs. or if it was the cause. maybe it was via baked goods that we the public caught it.
@pallios
@pallios 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that such a thing was happening. Thanks for making me less ignorant on the matter!
@youngcaptainkeos2133
@youngcaptainkeos2133 3 жыл бұрын
Lol same here
@noahgeerdink5144
@noahgeerdink5144 3 жыл бұрын
“Unaware”
@meganhoward8820
@meganhoward8820 3 жыл бұрын
@@noahgeerdink5144 same thing. The word was used correctly.
@skrrtskrrt2410
@skrrtskrrt2410 3 жыл бұрын
@@meganhoward8820the word ignorant has a connotation of a conscious choice, op clearly didn't make the choice of ignoring it since they didn't know it in the first place
@noahgeerdink5144
@noahgeerdink5144 3 жыл бұрын
@@skrrtskrrt2410 exactly
@katiekat4457
@katiekat4457 3 жыл бұрын
A very big problem is that it can take many decades for any symptoms to show up in a human. You could carry it from childhood into old age but most of the time people don't get lucky with all that time.
@nolaray1062
@nolaray1062 3 жыл бұрын
Is it a painful condition once it starts?
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 3 жыл бұрын
@@nolaray1062 your brain slowly degrades, take a wild guess
@nolaray1062
@nolaray1062 3 жыл бұрын
@@jadecoolness101 I always assumed it did, but there are so many ppl in the comments who are saying things about ppl they know who had it and they seem to be talking about everything but pain. That’s why I didn’t know if it just caused mental issues or if they actually experienced physical pain because nobody seems to be saying that part
@shanmarie4122
@shanmarie4122 3 жыл бұрын
@@Belltogo3000 It's believed that it can take up to 40 years for symptoms of CJD to show.
@marylclc1269
@marylclc1269 3 жыл бұрын
@@jadecoolness101 You don't feel pain in your brain. But, CJD is awful. My step dad died of it. We don't know where or when he got it, but it was like dementia on steroids. He went from a bit shaky for a while, to acting out of character a few months later to being completely incoherent in a few weeks. They weren't sure if he was in pain or not, but I insisted they gave him pain meds, as he was moaning and I was scared something might be hurting him. (not his brain because one cannot feel pain in one's brain. But, there was no reason to not give him pain meds. He was agitated and the pain meds calmed him down at least. I was calling the hospital regularly to make sure he was getting his pain meds. There was one nurse who was really lazy about giving him his meds and I actually had an argument with her as she said, "He doesn't need them!" I responded with, "We don't *know* if he's in pain! We need to make sure he isn't." She had never seen CJD before, but assumed she knew all about it. Even the doctors didn't know much about it.) His brain was supposed to be donated to the hospital for study. My mother insisted that the hospital was going to charge her for the procedure after he died so she didn't do it. They weren't going to charge her. I don't think she understood what they were telling her. I found out later there is never a charge to the family when someone donates body parts to science.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 3 жыл бұрын
I’m British and I love me some beef, so I had a slight panic when I remembered this disease can lay dormant for years. Then I remembered I was born in 2000 so I’ve (hopefully) not got the zombie cow disease
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 3 жыл бұрын
I was also born in 2000, and have always had bad balance, coordination, focus. Doctors say there's nothing wrong with me and I've always been consistent in my dysfunction so I guess it's just how I am. But as a kid my british grandparents were super concrned lol.
@red2theelectricboogaloo961
@red2theelectricboogaloo961 3 жыл бұрын
"just pray to god that you won't see any symptoms and you'll be fine i swear"
@fvoarin1307
@fvoarin1307 Жыл бұрын
If your mother has it, then you also have it. As it can be transmitted to children before birth. Also, it takes 40 years for symptoms to show up, on average. And there have been growing cases in the uk, in recent years. We're nearing the 40 year mark now. Basically, for all of us born after that time, to people who ate meat from that time, wait until 2030. If they're still alive, and didn't die from Prions. Then you're probably good
@arianamarasco2158
@arianamarasco2158 3 жыл бұрын
I’m from Argentina and I donated blood last weekend, if you lived during the 80’s in the UK, you cannot donate blood in my country. It seems it’s a global thing.
@joanhoffman3702
@joanhoffman3702 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in England for 3 months in 1990. Didn’t eat any beef, didn’t visit any farms, and now I can’t donate blood.
@Steve-zc9ht
@Steve-zc9ht 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO 😂
@zaniq23
@zaniq23 3 жыл бұрын
That's right. It can be proven that you visited England. But it can't be proven what you did not do there.
@somesortofdeliciousbiscuit3704
@somesortofdeliciousbiscuit3704 3 жыл бұрын
My husband's cousin died from CJD when he was 18- he'd got it from infected baby food since he only got symptoms during his CJD.
@SC-RGX7
@SC-RGX7 3 жыл бұрын
Prions, in French it quite says "To pray", and when you have it, just pray
@franziskawild6981
@franziskawild6981 3 жыл бұрын
This should be called: why no British person born before 1996 can donate blood basically anywhere
@JLO72
@JLO72 3 жыл бұрын
Not true I can donate in Gibraltar, Falkland Island, Channel Islands and Isle of Man.
@sirduffbeer4202
@sirduffbeer4202 3 жыл бұрын
The interesting thing is that other European countries can as they had much greater number/percentage of mad cow disease in their population (both people and cows). But the UK got all the press due to it identifying it.
@paulholla
@paulholla 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in the UK in 83 and I can donate blood.
@franziskawild6981
@franziskawild6981 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulholla how come?
@EnigmaGameIn
@EnigmaGameIn 3 жыл бұрын
I've given blood loads of times I was born in 85
@ToastieBRRRN
@ToastieBRRRN 3 жыл бұрын
This video is a funny coincidence since I found out recently my cousin who is a dual British-Belgian-American citizen couldn't donate blood in the US too.
@El_Saam
@El_Saam 3 жыл бұрын
There are few questions related to this topic that I need to answer every time before I donate blood. - Have you stayed in the UK for a total of over six months between 1 January 1980 and 31 December 1996? - Have you or any of your close relatives been diagnosed with Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD)? - Have you had an operation in the UK after 1 January 1980? This video explained really well why these questions are asked.
@JaneAustenAteMyCat
@JaneAustenAteMyCat 3 жыл бұрын
I'm British and not allowed to donate blood in the UK because I have previously had a blood transfusion.
@briannemurdock4183
@briannemurdock4183 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in Germany when my dad was stationed overseas. Because of DOD beef sourcing from the UK in the 90s, I am not able to give blood.
@jamesbarisitz4794
@jamesbarisitz4794 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, if Covid wasn't enough for you, let's revisit mad cow disease. 😑
@veiserexab1428
@veiserexab1428 3 жыл бұрын
Ebola and Marburg is also one of the worst disease Prions is almost indestructible and has no cure
@billylauwda9178
@billylauwda9178 3 жыл бұрын
*lets revisit the plaque*
@jamesbarisitz4794
@jamesbarisitz4794 3 жыл бұрын
@@billylauwda9178 Plaque, as in teeth, or bowling trophy?
@billylauwda9178
@billylauwda9178 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbarisitz4794 goodness me, sorry i mean plague. I do apologise for my incompetence. As you can see Mr. Baristiz i juse woke up from my slumber.
@jamesbarisitz4794
@jamesbarisitz4794 3 жыл бұрын
@@billylauwda9178 Ha ha! No worries mate ! 😃
@jacquejac1840
@jacquejac1840 3 жыл бұрын
This is why my family & I can't donate. This video described the problem much better than any doctor that's told us no in the past.
@jacquejac1840
@jacquejac1840 3 жыл бұрын
@@toflow1177"Why would you be asking a doctor about blood donation? " ~I haven't tried to a donate in over 20+ yrs since I found out that I couldn't...So the current process may be different from what I remember, which was a doctor overseeing a phlebotomist or nurse drawing the blood. As the supervisor, they would field the questions. My mother asks almost every doctor she's ever seen why she can't donate, as well. A transfusion in England saved her life in 84.
@juliemcgugan1244
@juliemcgugan1244 3 жыл бұрын
@@toflow1177 At the blood donation centre I attended (Singapore, not US,) they had a doctor on-hand to answer any questions. My technician knew the fact that I'd had shingles would potentially be a problem, but was unsure how long I would have to have been well, before I could donate again. She referred me to this doctor, who told me six months. I left the country permanently 3 weeks later. Now I'm waiting for my second dose of Covid-19 vaccine and I have no idea what the blood donation rules are, here in Cyprus, so I'm going to have to go and get educated and find out if this new vaccine will effect that at all.
@red2theelectricboogaloo961
@red2theelectricboogaloo961 3 жыл бұрын
@@toflow1177 i mean if you donate blood i heard that you literally save live 6 to 8 lives for each time
@red2theelectricboogaloo961
@red2theelectricboogaloo961 3 жыл бұрын
@@toflow1177 i dont know. go give blood?
@red2theelectricboogaloo961
@red2theelectricboogaloo961 3 жыл бұрын
@@toflow1177 i mean i dunno.
@josesoto3594
@josesoto3594 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing those cows falling down was rough :(
@aubs400
@aubs400 3 жыл бұрын
Worth noting both France and the Netherlands also had a massive problem with the same disease, but managed to avoid the medical flack.
@BenTvHowman
@BenTvHowman 3 жыл бұрын
They can't donate here in Australia also. A family friend was living there during that period and now he can't donate blood
@lottievixen
@lottievixen 3 жыл бұрын
lived in Australia for 10 years and when I first moved there, there was a blood drive and I cried because I couldn't give blood wanted to give blood because I was premature and needed blood when I was born
@KX36
@KX36 3 жыл бұрын
@@lottievixen In UK, having previously received a transfusion would be another reason you can't donate. Kinda sucks because previous recipients are the most determined donors in other countries.
@lottievixen
@lottievixen 3 жыл бұрын
@@KX36 oh .. well that crashed any hopes I had, I'll continue trying to get people to understand why I want to, why I can't and how they can help.
@flyinghigh2000
@flyinghigh2000 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Asia where hepatitis b fear banned me from donating in Europe. Then since I lived in Ireland for 10 years now moving back home I can't donate because of bse. I started donating since I'm 18 every 2-3 month before I moved to Europe. It is sad because all my other family member can't donate for various reasons
@briantannenbaum8110
@briantannenbaum8110 3 жыл бұрын
6:35
@LOLquendoTV
@LOLquendoTV 3 жыл бұрын
When I donated blood in Spain I also had to fill in a form before donating, a question of which was "Have you lived in the UK during the 83-96 period" which i thought was sort of funny in a how specific kind of way but now I know
@PirateOfTheNorth
@PirateOfTheNorth 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm this. I grew up in the UK (wasn’t born there) and moved abroad and I went to donate blood with a friend and got rejected.
@-grizzly-4224
@-grizzly-4224 3 жыл бұрын
My grandpa just died from this, we had no idea he had this, until it was to late, that shit can stay "hidden" for 30 or more years i don't know if he passed it on to me and I'm not sure I want to. Its no joke and its brutal 😥😢
@AmyAndThePup
@AmyAndThePup 3 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to you. :(
@fredericapanon207
@fredericapanon207 2 жыл бұрын
My condolences on your loss. Unless you were exposed to his neural tissue, you are unlikely to have been infected by him. Remember that vCJD is hard to diagnose from blood tests because there are so few prions in blood.
@barbm2375
@barbm2375 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is amazing. You’ve touched on so many issues tied to the propagation of animal-borne diseases via the human food chain. Excellent information.
@DrJackLawler
@DrJackLawler 3 жыл бұрын
It was the same in Ireland for anyone who lived in the UK during the risk period, we've recently reversed the decision thanks to low risk
@xaindsleena8090
@xaindsleena8090 3 жыл бұрын
Just your voice alone is enough to get anyone inspired about learning science. You have the perfect voice for these types of videos. Wow!
@isladurrant2015
@isladurrant2015 3 жыл бұрын
Shame they didn't ban blood/plasma from USA to UK ... it would've saved many lives
@sdcard551
@sdcard551 3 жыл бұрын
What happened
@sdcard551
@sdcard551 3 жыл бұрын
@Oke Ihenacho Why the hell is blood imported across borders, can't a country just use their own supply? That's just so weird.
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 3 жыл бұрын
@@sdcard551 i think the logic was that humans are humans, if the blood bank is low then why not share? Well.. that's why we don't share.
@XDarkGreyX
@XDarkGreyX 3 жыл бұрын
When i clicked on this, I didn't expect it to be a video on the disease that gives me nightmares. And I initially planned on skipping this one, but since these videos are rare treats... HERE WE GO.
@jamestuccillo
@jamestuccillo 3 жыл бұрын
10:53 "let's the cows decide when they get milked." Still that one bull is just taking advantage...
@justanotherhuman.3649
@justanotherhuman.3649 3 жыл бұрын
That's a cursed my friend.
@anonymousperson6462
@anonymousperson6462 3 жыл бұрын
How does being milked more often mean they get sick less often? I would think it would be the other way around.
@simdoughnut659
@simdoughnut659 3 жыл бұрын
@@anonymousperson6462 I'm not a Dairy Farmer, but I do know that Dairy Cows suffer greatly if not milked regularly, and they can even die. Dairy cows produce upwards of 8 gallons of milk a day, and have to be milked every day. If not milked the milk will build up in the udder causing incredible pain for the animal and potential infections. I can't tell you how many times over the years I've read stories of a Dairy Farmer going out of the country on vacation and hiring someone to milk, and that person never shows up, resulting in an entire herd getting sick and dying.
@anonymousperson6462
@anonymousperson6462 3 жыл бұрын
@@simdoughnut659 ok, thanks for the info. I was wrong. It's one of those things that can be a little hard to understand if not explained.
@jtodd3104
@jtodd3104 3 жыл бұрын
@@anonymousperson6462 happens in sheep to, if something doesn't remove the milk in good time they get a bacterial infection in the udder called mastitas which can cause hards lumps in the udder as well as pain and sometimes death
@acearohippo
@acearohippo 3 жыл бұрын
I learned about this when I was kid, all because of a fictional story called Going Bovine. It's genre was magical realism, really fun and comedic for such a dark disease
@NamelessVoice808
@NamelessVoice808 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in Germany from birth to 6 months and they don’t want my blood either. It’s a shame because I donated all the time in collage just to get out of class.
@Rebster
@Rebster 3 жыл бұрын
I have read further up in this thread that the ban on germany is lifted in the us, so you might be able to donate again
@sirjames26
@sirjames26 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Canadian originally from Britain and a former regular blood doner in the UK. Canada still in 2021 will not accept my blood. Thank goodness the fears of vCJD never materialized but at least better farming practices were adopted in many countries.
@Steve-zc9ht
@Steve-zc9ht 3 жыл бұрын
Dang Canada and the USA won't except blood from the UK or anyone related to it lol
@wayneparke554
@wayneparke554 3 жыл бұрын
We had a high profile politician in Utah that died from mad cow disease.
@RedRoseSeptember22
@RedRoseSeptember22 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes :(
@natashanicole7408
@natashanicole7408 3 жыл бұрын
Who?
@user-og6ws6cy5l
@user-og6ws6cy5l 3 жыл бұрын
@@natashanicole7408 Joe
@diptosarker810
@diptosarker810 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-og6ws6cy5l Joe who?
@MyChilepepper
@MyChilepepper 3 жыл бұрын
Becky Lockhart?
@rindianiorvala5057
@rindianiorvala5057 3 жыл бұрын
I remember learning this in my 1st year of medschool, my professor had ever encounter this disease in 2 patient, and they are brothers.
@emanwhomakesbarrels701
@emanwhomakesbarrels701 3 жыл бұрын
Prions just be maverick proteins so charismatic they get everyone around them to join the club
@MsEverAfterings
@MsEverAfterings 3 жыл бұрын
Now that’s an influencer
@RobinHilton22367
@RobinHilton22367 3 жыл бұрын
Having being born in the UK in 1989 and subsequently emigrating to New Zealand in 2003 I can also confirm that I cannot give blood here for the same reason.
@DaimyoD0
@DaimyoD0 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is incredible. So unique. I didn't even know how much more I had to learn about prion disease
@williamwilson6499
@williamwilson6499 3 жыл бұрын
Somewhere in Yorkshire: Cow 1: Mate, have you heard about that disease that’s been going around infecting cows and destroying their brains? Cow 2: Yeah, good thing we’re penguins. I spent five wonderful years in England, 85-90, so I’m banned from donating. But you can still be placed on bone marrow donations.
@pH7oslo
@pH7oslo 3 жыл бұрын
As a recovering vampire, this was a tough one to watch..
@actl786
@actl786 3 жыл бұрын
Former blood bank tech here from the states. Yes, absolutely ban should continue. We get late blood recalls all the time, but had to ignore it coz those recalled blood were already given to patients. I always tell my friends to only get blood from friends & family.
@Jay-ho9io
@Jay-ho9io 3 жыл бұрын
Hell no. I know what some of my friends do.
@actl786
@actl786 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jay-ho9io find cleaner friends 😂
@Jay-ho9io
@Jay-ho9io 3 жыл бұрын
@@actl786 🤣👍🏽
@TheLooterArmy
@TheLooterArmy 3 жыл бұрын
This is so well written, making the information easy to absorb and understand for someone who knows little about the topic.
@kristen2693
@kristen2693 3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@AFFMotorsport
@AFFMotorsport 3 жыл бұрын
In Australia, my old man died from it 4 years ago after a transfusion in the 80's.
@lindariley7037
@lindariley7037 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry for you & your family!
@TaelonOrigin
@TaelonOrigin 3 жыл бұрын
vCJD?
@sarabobara8458
@sarabobara8458 3 жыл бұрын
I live in New Brunswick Canada, and we have a mysterious outbreak of a disease which they have already said appears to be a prion disease. Its scary. 40 people have been diagnosed and still no answers.
@chronos401
@chronos401 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably coming from the shots. There's been at least a couple reported CJD cases and many other ailments appearing not too long after receiving the CeeOhVeeID jabs. The public has been conditioned not to use their brains and not to care. When severe cases happen, authorities love to ignore and deny any association. The vast majority of the public accepts this answer. Don't be surprised if a lot more prion disease and other conditions pop up over the next several years in NB and elsewhere.
@sarabobara8458
@sarabobara8458 3 жыл бұрын
@@chronos401 lmao, this existed in 2018 before the pandemic even started.
@Pyriphlegeton
@Pyriphlegeton 3 жыл бұрын
Diseases like this make me really look forward to lab-grown meat. No pathogens, no hormones, no antibiotics, no suffering.
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 3 жыл бұрын
There are already some great products made from plants that are a decent approximation of ground beef.
@hechss
@hechss 3 жыл бұрын
Lab-grown meat sounded great, but they require: 1) Biopsies of tissue from living animals to start the cell culture 2) Foetal bovine serum to grow the cell culture. This is basically blood drained from the heart of a fetus inside the mother cow with a syringe. 3) Huge amounts of energy to keep the temperature, Ph and more indicators at very precise levels. Right now the solution is already on the supermarkets’ shelves. Plant-based meat has every pro!
@veiserexab1428
@veiserexab1428 3 жыл бұрын
Don't consume soy too much, Just saying
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 3 жыл бұрын
@@veiserexab1428 you probably don't want to derive more than about a third of your calories from soy on average simply to ensure you get a good mix of foods and avoid nutrient deficiencies, but it is a fairly benign food.
@Pyriphlegeton
@Pyriphlegeton 3 жыл бұрын
@@veiserexab1428 Soy is very healthy if you don't eat it in absolute excess.
@austinwagner3231
@austinwagner3231 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in England 2005-2007ish, and my hypochondriac of a mother was convinced that we would not be able to donate blood until 105 years after we moved away -_-
@PhilLesh69
@PhilLesh69 3 жыл бұрын
I visited London and Dublin sometime around 1999 or 2000 and remember a lot of shops, hotels, train stations and other public places had floor mats soaked in antiseptic solution for people to walk over as they entered to kill whatever pathogen. I believe it had to do with BSE.
@moonoreo
@moonoreo 3 жыл бұрын
Who knew she was on to something
@youtubeboxingcentral2022
@youtubeboxingcentral2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhilLesh69 foot and mouth disease i believe. it would not do anything against bse
@benkerby4827
@benkerby4827 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhilLesh69 Yes this was due to Foot and Mouth.
@dandadamo4299
@dandadamo4299 3 жыл бұрын
Okay but when are we gonna un-ban gay men from donating blood.
@johnd6487
@johnd6487 3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t that just happen? I have health problems that mean I probably can’t donate, but I’m pretty sure the NHS announced a lifting of the ban a few months back
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly if they want to be dumb and ban healthy blood because SOME of it MIGHT be infected then screw them. They can deal with the blood shortages.
@spellbinder3113
@spellbinder3113 3 жыл бұрын
Not Mad Cow story but HIV. I was in a very serious car accident in 1988 and in need of a blood transfusion. This was at the height of the AIDS epidemic. Blood was not being tested at that time. My mother asked the doctor prior to the transfusion about contracting HIV. He told her "Mam, I'll be blunt. Either she dies right now or she may die later..." I was given the transfusion and for 3 years after had to get regular HIV testing. Each time when I waited for the results I would wondered whether I was saved from one death only to die from AIDS. Fortunately, the blood was clean. Nowadays blood is of course tested for it.
@Valandar2
@Valandar2 3 жыл бұрын
I was stationed for 9 months in Scotland in the mid 1990's... and cannot give blood.
@HorzaPanda
@HorzaPanda 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I can't donate blood in the US. I grew up in the UK
@Sub4CarClips
@Sub4CarClips 3 жыл бұрын
Did everyone in the comments grow up in the u.k and move to a different country lol
@HorzaPanda
@HorzaPanda 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sub4CarClips It's a thing we feel strongly about apparently XD Though I'm sure some of us who are scared of needles find it convenient whenever the topic of blood donation comes up >_>
@lydia1634
@lydia1634 3 жыл бұрын
My family lived in the UK during the 80s/90s. I laughed so hard when I found out I was a universal donor.
@tonyg.482
@tonyg.482 3 жыл бұрын
Why
@lydia1634
@lydia1634 3 жыл бұрын
Because I can't give blood.
@cor1817
@cor1817 3 жыл бұрын
@@lydia1634 dont get why thats so funny
@lydia1634
@lydia1634 3 жыл бұрын
@@cor1817 Because, sometimes the irony is just so strong, laughter is the only possible response.
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 3 жыл бұрын
Mad cow disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans killed my best friend's father last year. From the first symptoms that were initially misdiagnosed as a stroke until his death was only months. There is a very similar disease amongst cannibals, especially those in New Guinea, called Kuru disease.
@bempomaa489
@bempomaa489 2 жыл бұрын
in short, this disease still exists? Thanks
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786
@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 2 жыл бұрын
@@bempomaa489 It does but the incidence is like a million to one. It's a really lousy lottery to win. There are people out there that were infected decades ago that show no signs of the disease. The sad thing is it is 100% fatal there is no treatment.
@bempomaa489
@bempomaa489 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 gotcha that,thank you.
@randykroells8049
@randykroells8049 3 жыл бұрын
I was turned away when they started asking alot of questions because I was a GI in Germany but I donated many times before.
@nekomakhea9440
@nekomakhea9440 3 жыл бұрын
For a second I thought the outro said "Octopi keep learning to escape by listening to Modulus on Nebula" That would be a very smart Octopus
@realscience
@realscience 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't put it past them
@AmyAndThePup
@AmyAndThePup 3 жыл бұрын
Oh good, I'm not the only one. xD I thought the same thing, had to rewind to listen again a couple more times... lol
@godsporter4634
@godsporter4634 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t like how the documentary keeps talking about lifting the ban. The disease still exists so the ban should stay as far as I see it🤷🏾‍♂️
@leechowning2712
@leechowning2712 3 жыл бұрын
Blood donation is extremely rare, unfortunately. But yes, honestly anywhere that still has the slightest possibility it should be at least tested for. I worked over 10 years in the Amazon rainforest. I have o negative blood. In the US, I honestly do not even attempt because I know I have been exposed to things that they will not test for. Prions are an extraordinarily dangerous substance, smaller even than a virus... But in those who become infected... Nearly 100% fatal. Obviously they should not lift that ban. But what happens is that people who could otherwise donate become offended at the idea that they are banned "for no good reason". A similar ban is on people who are in the swinger or homosexual communities. While they continue to say "HIV is expected to reach the same percentages in heterosexual communities within the next 10 years"... That 10 years started in the 1970s. It never has reached parity. People in the BDSM, swinger or homosexual communities have nearly a 70% higher risk. But that ban ended recently because it was "not fair to the communities". The beginning of last year when they were saying masks were really not needed, I purchased them anyway. All of us wash our hands. At the very least I hope the people preparing my food have. Medicine should not be political. But it is.
@godsporter4634
@godsporter4634 3 жыл бұрын
@@leechowning2712 wow you just opened my eyes to this weird debate. I’m gonna go offend a butt load of gay people that are into BDSM now. Pun Intended.
@leechowning2712
@leechowning2712 3 жыл бұрын
@@godsporter4634 I'm almost completely self-employed, with very little people can do to me. So technically I am a troll.
@godsporter4634
@godsporter4634 3 жыл бұрын
@@leechowning2712 You’re living the dream. Use your powers wisely. You’re basically almost expert level in real life now.
@leechowning2712
@leechowning2712 3 жыл бұрын
@@godsporter4634 actually I'm a historian who sees way too many things in common with... Let us say other time periods. I put annoying comments on both sides... Seeing as neither one is anywhere near correct all the time... With the knowledge that eventually they will try coming for me. And when they do they will discover that my family are already evacuated. My line of work is utterly not dependent on people. And my residency Visa is still intact... For a third world country. I am annoying so that when it does start to happen I will see it... Before it becomes too late to evacuate. The difference between those families who had medium-sized businesses and were attacked on crystal night, and the quiet little people on the farm who hoped not to get in trouble for another 6 months and went straight to... There.
@howey935
@howey935 3 жыл бұрын
My cousins wife died in March of inherited CJD she didn’t have any symptoms until December and the doctors thought she was having a psychotic breakdown. She saw a specialist and he told my cousin to prepare for her death as by this time she was in a coma. It’s a 1 in a million chance of getting it and there’s no cure.
@user-bp8yg3ko1r
@user-bp8yg3ko1r 3 жыл бұрын
The day always gets better when Real Science uploads a new video...
@BigDave15
@BigDave15 3 жыл бұрын
I remember it being called new variant CJD on the news, but judging by the dates in the video that could be over 20 years ago, so I guess it isn't quite so new anymore.
@blempers3376
@blempers3376 3 жыл бұрын
My dad was in Britain at the end of his Highschool years, (his mom and dad were in the Air Force) so he can’t donate blood.
@shanmarie4122
@shanmarie4122 3 жыл бұрын
My grandma passed from sporadic CJD. It's absolutely devastating to watch someone go through.
@flyinghigh2000
@flyinghigh2000 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Asia who went to study in Europe. Before I donated blood frequently but now I can't donate at all. Thanks to hepatitis and mad cow disease.
@Raff766
@Raff766 3 жыл бұрын
@@SnoopyDoofie I'm pretty sure he mean't that he can't donate blood in his own country because he went to Europe. Also the only people who eat dog meat are SOME Chinese people, not all Asians, idiot...
@handlesarefeckinstupid
@handlesarefeckinstupid 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure hepatitis is the reason.
@flyinghigh2000
@flyinghigh2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@handlesarefeckinstupid I don't have hepatitis or else I can't go to med school. But still because its endemic to Asia. EU won't allow me to donate. While my country won't allow people who had been living for a long time in the EU because of bse.
@xxportalxx.
@xxportalxx. 3 жыл бұрын
@@flyinghigh2000 that's ironic af
@juliemcgugan1244
@juliemcgugan1244 3 жыл бұрын
@flyinghigh2000 I grew up in Singapore, but spent summers in the UK, in the 80s and 90s. Can't donate in Singapore due to CJD and couldn't donate in the UK due to the time spent in a Malarial country. For a while during Circuit Breaker (Singapore's version of lockdown,) we had awful outbreaks of Dengue Fever (similar to Malaria; spread my mosquitos.) This was because routine spraying of private properties and building sites was completely disallowed and the population of Aedes aegypti, the mosquito that carries and spreads Dengue fever, exploded all across the island. It was like a double whammy!
@SonyDjuana
@SonyDjuana 3 жыл бұрын
Now I know why they always question me about this when I'm donating my blood
@brad.ritzel
@brad.ritzel 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in Germany in the 90s and I have always been turned down when trying to donate blood
@potkettle
@potkettle 3 жыл бұрын
I (British) was in the US during the switch. I donated in February 2000 successfully, but when I went back to redonate a few months later, I was told it was forbidden.
@GordonGordon
@GordonGordon 3 жыл бұрын
Why is a liver CT shown every time a brain scan is mentioned?
@fernandopb08
@fernandopb08 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that those CT were strange too, thanks to your comment I googled it and it really is a liver CT on the video, which is very strange.
@GordonGordon
@GordonGordon 3 жыл бұрын
@@fernandopb08 .... Bovine spongiform hepatitis? 🧐
@3bydacreekside
@3bydacreekside 3 жыл бұрын
Brains be nasty man
@Tatusiek_1
@Tatusiek_1 3 жыл бұрын
@@GordonGordon lol
@amolpreetkaur3443
@amolpreetkaur3443 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same 😂
@BlackJar72
@BlackJar72 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being turned away as a blood donor on the basis of having lived in the UK as a child -- I left a few months before the deadline based on my mother's timeline, but at the time I couldn't remember exactly, so I was turned away. I don't know why they asked me specifically, but people often act surprised, saying they've never been asked or even heard of such a thing.
@vaughanellis7866
@vaughanellis7866 3 жыл бұрын
As a Brit I would not donate blood in the US even though I've lived and worked there off and on over the last 20 years, but I donate in the UK and if I was a carrier of CJD the Blood Transfusion Service would stop me from donating as they check every donation, All UK donors are volunteers and are not paid for their donations unless you count a cup of and a biscuit.
@UntangleTheOffice
@UntangleTheOffice 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for great content and presentation. Well thought through and concise. Subscribed!
@saims.2402
@saims.2402 3 жыл бұрын
There’s so much I don’t know about the world.
@TheFirstBubbaBong
@TheFirstBubbaBong 3 жыл бұрын
You are not alone. It’s called sheeple disease. Spend a few days here and you should be fully recovered. globalistagenda.org
@julianchristensen6895
@julianchristensen6895 3 жыл бұрын
Alternate Title: BLOODY HELL!
@yeontanssugadaddy
@yeontanssugadaddy 3 жыл бұрын
I knew someone who apparently had the disease and then it suddenly started showing symptoms when he was 70.
@redcherries93x2
@redcherries93x2 Ай бұрын
Why is this not more widely known? I lived in Europe my entire childhood and thought I would never be able to donate blood.
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