Why build an FPV drone when GEPRC Mark 5 is this good?

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-- TABLE OF CONTENTS --
0:00 - 5" BnF are really freaking good these days
2:52 - Strong, well-designed aluminum front end
5:25 - Split top-deck design, but done right!
6:35 - The same high-low bottom plate design as Apex
7:17 - How are the arms attached
8:38 - Arms are 5mm carbon by 10mm thick and are well designed
9:51 - Hardware is 10-9 steel
10:42 - FC and ESC are both soft mounted and wires are neatly run
11:12 - Three variants: DJI Air Unit, Vista, and analog
11:23 - I hate the plastic motor wire protectors
13:03 - Why did they use a 2107.5 sized motor?
• The most important spe... - In-depth discussion about how I evaluate motor sizes
16:16 - FC and ESC close look
17:56 - Flight testing
20:50 - Let's compare: GEPRC Mark 5, Diatone Roma F5 V2, and iFlight Evoque F5
21:46 - These things are the same no matter which version you get
22:38 - Evoque has 20mm FC and ESC; others have 30mm
23:21 - Evoque is the heaviest of the three. Diatone is lightest.
23:47 - GEPRC has most powerful analog vTX. Evoque is weakest.
24:22 - GEPRC is most expensive. Diatone and Evoque are cheaper.
24:47 - Which is best? GEPRC, Diatone, or iFlight
26:13 - Is there any point in building your own any more?

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@IgnoranceParanoia 2 жыл бұрын

The numbers on the bolts refer to mechanical properties, eg 10.9 mean 1000MPa tensile strength and 900MPa yield strength

@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know that. Thanks for filling me in. I thought it referred to specific amounts of certain metals that steel is alloyed with.

@IgnoranceParanoia 2 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell my materials destructive testing class at college, I knew it would come in handy one day…. Love the video. Tell me about it, building quads this year is much more expensive, the Kakute stack in my new FR7 is almost double the price it was last year.

@hateforall4012 2 жыл бұрын

@@IgnoranceParanoia hahahaha kinda like using trig or Algebra after high school…. Education win! Lol

@MayankJoneja 2 жыл бұрын

Guess @JB learnt something that day!

@SLOSHPLOP 6 ай бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwellhi… I just unboxed my Geprc and the antenna is super floppy? Like it’s not solid at all it literally seems like it in the way of propellers. What should I do? I don’t believe this is normal lol.

@BlownUpp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation on switching to Edge TX and ELRS - I made the jump yesterday and it was *so* easy to setup on both ends (besides soldering the wires to the tiny breakout pads on the FC) to setup. It took me less time to install, flash and bind both the TX and RX than it took me just to bind my TX16S to an XM+ RX! EdgeTX makes my TX16S feel like a brand new radio with all the new features and even the performance gain.

@robertaustinmasters8 Жыл бұрын

Definitely my favorite go channel when looking for easy to find, thoroughly covered, need to know information to answer almost any questions I come across.

@slappomatthew 2 жыл бұрын

I have been a gep fan for YEARS. Built many of their frames back in the day and they were a very good value. having said that I enjoy building more than I enjoy flying.

@JP-qq2kn 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! I like the new freestyle obstacles in the yard. Do you have any plans to put led's or any type of lights on them for some cool evening rips?

@lottedowse7353 2 жыл бұрын

I love how excited you get about the spreadsheets!

@Sav_FPV 2 жыл бұрын

Finally you reviewed this. Thank you Joshua for all the work you put in that.

@TechnicallyTom 2 жыл бұрын

Not only do I fall into the “I enjoy building” camp but I like how I cover the motor wires better. I also like to have some quads with motors in the lower recommended Kv rang and some in the higher range. With bind & flys, you get two choices for different cell counts. I do think BNF quads are a good way to get started.

@crippledcarbonfpv 2 жыл бұрын

That new course is looking awesome Josh! Nice flying too!

@jonah6496 2 жыл бұрын

I've been looking forward to this review for weeks, and it didn't disappoint! Amazing review video Joshua! The mark five is a quad I'd like to buy, but it is a little pricey. The discussion on whether building is more cost effective anymore got me thinking. Maybe building a five inch on a budget is like building a tinywhoop now, it's cost effective to buy a BND with some parts you want and use the parts to build your own five inch.

@Adamlhodge 2 жыл бұрын

GREAT ONE JOSH!!!!!!!!!! I REALLY LOVE THAT YOU STICK WITH FACTS AND IF YOU ARE BIASED YOU LET PEOPLE KNOW REFRESHING HONEST REVIEWS TRULY APPRECIATE YOU BROTHER

@QuadMcFlyFlies 2 жыл бұрын

The similarities to the QAV-S JohnnyFPV edition are pretty remarkable :D Honestly though I'm glad to see an RTF company taking a design seriously even if they are taking heavy inspiration from other designs. They even made some nice tweaks in this one along the way. Definitely well executed. My only complaint would be they added a lot of weight in the process.

@thegeniuspig9587 2 жыл бұрын

Love the intro. So true. Thanks again for the thoughtful comparison at the end too.

@Rcschim 2 жыл бұрын

I like how you've modded your level, eh property, to adjust to the advanced freestyle reviewers needs ;) That "chair" is a nice idea to practice loops and gaps... Mark5 is for sure not bad - reviewed Mark4 last year and it was great - and it is nice for guys like me who could build their own quads but who are just too lazy ;)

@solidfoxhound560 2 жыл бұрын

Really amazing stuff. Im learning so much from your videos

@speedyturtlefpv3290 2 жыл бұрын

Dang bardwell your skills are getting soo good!!

@neilfpv 2 жыл бұрын

WOW! Joshua! Your freestyle progress is extremely amazing! I don't have great control similar to what you did at 1:40. WOW!!!

@BNIRc 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait saving up now absolutely love my AcroBee 65 great video 👍

@vladimircerovic 2 жыл бұрын

Wow I love those obstacles! Gotta build something similar when we move to the house. Quad appears to be flying really good.

@MadRC 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I really need to try one of these new pre builds as they have just come on som much. As you say it close to make no sense to build for the average user now. I was close to getting the Evoque but when I stop pending on other things I will pick one of these up. I like what they have done here.

@drone-vision Жыл бұрын

Great flying in that wood box 📦;)

@Robert67909 2 жыл бұрын

I've been flying The Mark 2 for three and a half years its my favorite freestyle quad. Now I need a mark 5.

@AGILISFPV 2 жыл бұрын

Love your obstacles really nice and fun looking to fly through.

@ThePieSnatcher 2 жыл бұрын

I just remembered why I love your channel

@davidgoldberg7032 2 жыл бұрын

Well i learned something, Ty always a pleasure watch your videos.

@StacemanFPV 2 жыл бұрын

Having those built gates are really improving your flying. Nice!

@minkorrh 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a knockoff Mark 4 frame (cuz I'm that guy) the and I was very impressed with the stability and smoothness of flying. I can only imagine they've done it again. Building your own has its own rewards in the amount of stuff you collect to enable you to repair, replace, and get back in the air. It's not cheap tho.

@yang74 2 жыл бұрын

Very detailed evaluation and comparison！！！！Thank you!!!

@DevArnold Жыл бұрын

Those loops are sick!JB got tucks for days through those obstacles. I pray for a quad like this one day!

@DESOUSAB 2 жыл бұрын

Hit on this channel about a week ago (I'm an RC crawler guy who is screwing around with an FPV setup). I've been binge watching the content and I think you may have me hooked. Might have to get into this hobby... Anyway - subscribed and liked.

@MzanziRC 2 жыл бұрын

I transitioned back to RC cars. FPV flying is so expensive in the beginning. Fly. Crash. Repair. Rinse and repeat. But FPV gives you a thrill like nothing else! Ok, maybe skydiving! :)

@andrewut7ya511 2 жыл бұрын

If you are gonna get into this you came to the right place. There is noone better than joshua for learning something today. There is alot of great channelS that can help but joshua is THE GUY, especially for newer pilots.

@jmillerfpv 2 жыл бұрын

I’m getting ready to move to the country. I can’t wait to build some obstacles like you have! The freedom to fly the way I want anytime, and be far away from people will be nice. BNF quads are really good these days! I really like this Mark 5!

@andrewut7ya511 2 жыл бұрын

That looks pretty nice, if i was to buy it i would order a few extra sets of front end plates for future repairs but it seems pretty good to me.

@danacummings8988 Жыл бұрын

I love your videos so much I am only 11 and you inspired me to start learning about fpv drones and I even bought a Cetus pro

@aythixfpv 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣 the opening actually made me laugh. Good job JB. Also props to King Turkey

@PeterPetermann 2 жыл бұрын

I actually bought the frame and did my own build on it. What came in the box was amazing, all sorts of screws i'd need, all sorts of foam and 3d printed parts, allowing full flexibility into the build allowing for almost any component I could think of. (only thing it doesn't take is 25.5mm aios) well done geprc

@francescorobotti8341 2 жыл бұрын

Same here, it seems a super frame..

@GioFpv 2 жыл бұрын

Purchased this quad the day after I saw this review which was exactly 2 days after the video was released. Bought the frame kit and I built it myself, with my fav components. 2207 2021kv 6s. Disappointed to find out it takes only 30x30(I might drill some holes in the extreme case). Anyway the build is solid and designed in great details. Weird how it says had front arms and rear ones, which to me they look similar…mheee. Been bashing it a lot, put it under my usual stress test and so far I’m liking it. Also great it takes 5.2 prop size and motor to motor gives such a nice flying experience that I love. Highly recommend to try this quad

@borisstihkrajnc6234 2 жыл бұрын

Before buying my geprc smart 35 4 months ago, I was so into dji mavic family and video recording. But then I saw some freestye videos and I said to my self I want to fly like that. So I entered this nice new hobby of mine and thank you Joshua for these videos. I learn something new each time. I have no electronic skills but learned alot from yout videos. In the end, I just want a drone and fly it. So maybe I think this Mark 5 is on my list. If I want to sound poetic, I believe that building a drone gives some deeper connection with it. You are a proud owner of your build. But if you just want to fly it, dont bother just buy it and a lot of spare parts, I learned that the first day when propelers and arm broke. And btw you have fans in Slovenia.

@SunriseWaterMedia 2 жыл бұрын

👀 Amazing flying through the obstacle in your field.

@olMadMaxlo 2 жыл бұрын

Look at you go, killing it on the cubicle.

@bradgibson1976 Жыл бұрын

Mine is coming tomorrow in analogue 6s, so excited. My Evoque dropped 1 motor today on my last pack only time its gone down after 8 months and 1000 packs, durable even the 20x20 isn't affected. Sorry sir lol. J,B. 😊 your a legend 👏 🙌 ❤ 💙

@AL_FPV 2 жыл бұрын

I have to say: you are getting really good at freestyle now! I'd love to see more :)

@jacobreezyfpv6287 2 жыл бұрын

Gosh Joshua you making me want another drone this frame is really nice

@jessiahd.6143 2 жыл бұрын

Another awesome video! I wish Race Day Quads had the Air Unit version I'd pick this up!

@youzrnaim 2 жыл бұрын

Damn. Practice is paying off. Looking great, Joshua.

@ChrisParayno 2 жыл бұрын

Love the obstacles!! 26:46 accurate. It's just not cost effective to build a quad anymore unless you start accumulating spare parts and multiple quads due to crashes. Even then, even frames have gone up in price... Some hitting $100. You really end up paying 25 percent more when you build your own, and then you have to deal with the "did I do this right" question.

@melon9088 2 жыл бұрын

Did you say/see this same thing on reddit? Or am I just getting some crazy deja vu?

@bugsy742 Жыл бұрын

Thing is there is no reason for frame price hikes - they just use the bandwagon to excuse it, fpv companies aren’t our friends anymore unfortunately and they’ll definitely piss in yer pocket and tell you it’s raining! 👍😎

@ChrisParayno Жыл бұрын

@@melon9088 I don't go on Reddit but it's a general observation I've made this past year building quads

@ChrisParayno Жыл бұрын

@Evolution Drone Works same!

@BROK3N1MAGE 2 жыл бұрын

The analog vtx on the mark5 is what has me sold. I know geprc sent you the one with an air unit. However it would have been cool to see how well that vtx would hold up in a parking garage 🙂👍

@SimpleMeFPV 2 жыл бұрын

Fun intro 😆, wire loom tape great tip! awesome video as always 👍

@prismaticsoundwave Жыл бұрын

I would say BNF quads are a godsend for countries which do not have a sizable FPV community. Living in Singapore, we do not have a huge selection of retailers from which to purchase parts to build from scratch and parts selection is also limited. You can argue we can purchase them overseas, but the shipping costs and currency conversions (especially with costly living standards) would simply make scratch builds too costly for beginners. Anyway, just want to thank you for your videos. Just started out in FPV with the Cetus X and simulators and already ordered this in 6S analogue to go further!

@MzanziRC 2 жыл бұрын

Damn! You got REALLY good!!! Watched you many moons ago when I flew quads. Costs just got too much! LOL! One of your videos just popped into my feed again. Miss those days and I miss watching you. I'm subscribing for nostalgic reasons! 😀

@camdynkellett6782 Жыл бұрын

Bought a mk5 two months ago and I'm super stoked! Was lucky to find an old stock deal with an MPU6000. This is my first 5" quad and I'm blown away with the performance and stability. First flights were on a 4s 1300 and for cruising I managed to get a consistent 7-8 min. I now use a 6s 2000mah pack for cinematic filming and with a gopro I easily reach 8-10min even in strong wind! Great quad, no issues so far

@jianliu9420 Жыл бұрын

Can you hold it steady hoovering? Is it precise in control?

@camdynkellett6782 Жыл бұрын

@@jianliu9420 It's a great radio for the price, and I was super impressed with the feel of the gimbals and the control I had. At the end of the day, it's up to skill... the best pilot may complain about a few things, but they still manage to fly insanely well. I think it's a good option, but the Zorro is also another great option to look at as well!

@armandor.calderong.9135 Жыл бұрын

@@camdynkellett6782 hello, I think you put that comment in the wrong place. Have a nice day.

@camdynkellett6782 Жыл бұрын

@@armandor.calderong.9135 Haha good spotting! I don't even know where that one would have gone! Thanks! Had a great day today, hope your's was good too!

@onelastmarine Жыл бұрын

What a great spatial training tool at 1:50 love your videos

@AIRWOLF 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Josh!

@casey22857 2 жыл бұрын

I still have the mark 3 and it's still my favorite quad as far as fill goes.

@sinkWad 2 жыл бұрын

For anyone watching this now- GEPRC as of MAY 2022 no longer uses MPU6000 - Its now listed as 6-Axis. Thanks for all the great content JB! I Picked one of these up!

@jianliu9420 Жыл бұрын

So os 6 axis better than mpu6000?

@MJBold_1 2 жыл бұрын

brilliant video! thanks for this!

@eduardoepsilveira 2 жыл бұрын

Joshua, You are the best.

@simmoakagoofy 2 жыл бұрын

Love the video. The information was on point and helped me massively. Also want to say thank you soooo much from a viewers perspective.....There was no lengthy intro branding clip taking up the first minute before any content, there was not the obligatory "HEY GUYS dont forget to hit that like and subscribe" yelling at the beginning and when you do mention a like, we are already 10min into content. Brilliant! So much so that I just felt the need to comment and say keep up the good work and your videos are informative as well as a pleasure to watch!

@aztecjoe29 2 жыл бұрын

You are the man thank you brother

@ch3fpv 2 жыл бұрын

Sick!!! adding gates to yr compound....

@jessearmand 2 жыл бұрын

rcinpower was the first I noticed who released 2107 sized motors. The stator length is actuallly 7.5mm, so it should be the same size as this one. The GTS V3 motors have been tested by Chris Rosser in one of his motor testing videos together with Xing2, FPVCycle motors, and Wasp, another motor from rcinpower.

@MrSabram07 2 жыл бұрын

Damn Joshua you're getting really good at them tight power loops

@steviefpv 2 жыл бұрын

I use them motor wire shields but I also put layer of electrical tape over them so the don’t shatter. They last ages then before you need to replace one

@Whamola 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate how much info these videos give, but I must have missed or can't find again if he tested the 4s or 6s version.

@skyweaver3199 2 жыл бұрын

2107.5 1960 kv motors, interesting. Also love those obstacles.

@benkimmitt 2 жыл бұрын

Try the 3m friction tape. You’ll love it.

@scu-dub 2 жыл бұрын

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE JB's PROPERTY 🤤 I wouldn't leave to fly anywhere else lol and the new track set up is SUPERB 🤌🏽 I can't believe geprc slapped a 1600 mw vtx on this quad😳 INSANE! I know it's not that big of an issue but I like how diatones camera mount has the degree setting for the camera angle 👍🏽I know I'm a newb😒 lol I have been looking at all 3 of these quads and really like all 3 and wish I could have all 3 but I think I know which one to pull the trigger on😏 awesome review....but then again they all are 🙄 lol✌🏽ps...I thought I was the only one to being picky about the quality of screws good to know that someone thinks it matters😁

@supernatural802 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work on those sticks!

@VulpeculaJoy Жыл бұрын

I bought my MK5 not long after this video and so far it's performing pretty good. I replaced the default FC with a Mamba Mk4 F722 App, since GEPRC somehow had not added the barometer and it also just didn't want to work with the SpeedyBee app. After a crash I burned the ESC and replaced it with a Mamba F40. I destroyed 2 LiPos on crashes and have yet to kill a motor, but the frame just tanks crashes at 50kph into concrete like a champ. If I need to replace the motors, I'd definitely get some RCinpower GTS V3 2107 Plus' or Wasp Majors.

@gus8378 2 жыл бұрын

I wish the Vista had two antennas for bigger coverage while staying light

@chrisB_OG Жыл бұрын

Sick intro JB

@monolith2001 2 жыл бұрын

I have both the Roma V2 and the Evoque. I got the Roma first (late summer 2021) and my wife bought me an Evoque for Christmas. I have to say out of the box the Evoque was the better drone but I have tuned and gotten my Roma V2 so synced to the way I like to fly, I prefer it over the Evoque. The Roma feels punchier on throttle. The Evoque is great and looks great late evening (LEDs are gorgeous and configurable...running a fixed Seattle Seahawks ble/green theme right tnow. I did swap the camera for a Runcam Phoenix 2 (not a JB) as the default camera was terrible in variable light conditions. 600mW VTX has not been as much a liability as I thought though Roma is still better. I like the Mark 5 but with the cost and I don't need another 5" will keep me away. If they make a 3-3.5" of it, I am there day one as I love the basic design.

@SilverbackSasquatch19xx 2 жыл бұрын

I have in months gone from learning to fly on a bnf to cnc cutting my own carbon fiber frames and building my own but I still keep good bnf quads on my radar, sometimes they provide inspiration for your tune or hardware on another quad

@funkyfpv9847 2 жыл бұрын

Do you build custom orders?

@SilverbackSasquatch19xx 2 жыл бұрын

@@funkyfpv9847 I recently got into contact with some of the major companies to be considered for design and development. I haven’t cut for someone else yet but I’m interested. What kind of frame are you into? Are you looking to have it completed with electronics? What kind of flying do you want to do with the custom frame?

@SilverbackSasquatch19xx 2 жыл бұрын

Just ordered some more carbon fiber and 3D printer tpu! I have a frame in the works I’m getting excited to produce!

@slipperysebastian 2 жыл бұрын

Ur getting pretty slippery in the yard there JB! Nice work

@LumpyFPV 2 жыл бұрын

Dude! The dive cube thingy! Nice ripping my guy. 🤌🏻🔥🔥🔥 Thanks for the review too. 🎩

@ImperialArmour Жыл бұрын

This thing is terrifying loud, PERFECT!

@digitalpituitary5226 2 жыл бұрын

You rock! Every time!! 🏅🏆💯

@djilly75 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't you built that dive gate thing. That is so cool. I should do the same

@RRGCGarage 2 жыл бұрын

I like the wire covers but didn't want to re solder all the motor wires to swap to new ones when I changed bottom plates so I took my rc lexan scissors and cut a tiny gap in the bottom center to slide the old ones off and new ones on. The tape holds it down just fine with a hair missing and the top and sides are still whole.

@ShinyVideoStuff 2 жыл бұрын

Should mention that this is also the debut of the GepRC expressLRS RX! So you can get this BNF with eLRS.

@QuandarNl 2 жыл бұрын

I replaced all my T-Motor stuff with GEPRC. I also really love their tiny drones.

@DrFrantic77 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review mate, it seem, @GEPRC goes better and better

@YoYoYo 2 жыл бұрын

The best part about this video is the freestyle park you made. Please do a video on that. :)

@Lloyd_workshop Жыл бұрын

it's awsome that Quagmire is teaching us about drones :3

@quentincampbell5865 2 жыл бұрын

I have built quads from the ground up before. But yes, BNF is cheaper. What is good about it you also get a nice base starter pack to build on. Add on, change things and fix. There is still that fun.

@studiodeepdive6165 2 жыл бұрын

Looking to move in from DJI FPV to a legit quad. This looks like a good place to start!

@kevinp.2039 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Josh, thanks for the video. I wanted to note your explanation of the metal front end is a little off. The metal part’s manufactured and post-processing will result in it being more brittle / stiff or soft ‘ bendable. Composites also have variations.

@sunsetpark_fpv 2 жыл бұрын

@ 20:43 you better be careful - that mortar seems aimed very cleverly at that little structure in front of it...... 😎 Awesome review - makin' me wish I had one LOL 😁

@bradgibson1976 Жыл бұрын

Your the Man again Mr Bardwell, great review I believe you way more than others thanks. Anyway I've ordered my Mark5 analogue today. How's durability? Have you a review on how to bind n configure off the app please. I need the idiots guide lol. My pal Normally does this for me but I really want to learn myself. Thanks for everything you do for FPV, true inspiration. 👍

@YaegerFPV 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review, there is still the new HGLRC Sector 5 v4, will you review this as well ? Would be curious how this compares to the others 😊

@nyclassic4ever130 2 жыл бұрын

I am going to get one of those as well. Funny you bring them up in comparison.

@apachesmokemachining6487 2 жыл бұрын

Because I like building quads 😉 great video though 👍🏻thanks for the time you put in it for us

@PesterBotLoFi 2 жыл бұрын

building your own and then customizing the thing would give you the best of both worlds really.

@RCOverKill 2 жыл бұрын

Good video! Iva always built, but when Elrs, and HDZero are available cheaper I'll definitely buy them, I can always swap out motors if I want different ones. It wouldn't make any sense to pay more for the same unassembled parts, if you like building so much ya already know how to disassemble one, then you can still build what you want cheaper.

@mattwilson1305 2 жыл бұрын

You have the best job in the world

@ttttenney 2 жыл бұрын

The cloth tape is called Friction tape, available at most big-box stores, for those who want to know.

@seb-depp 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting! Now get another call and try the HGLRC Sector 5 ;-) I might've bought the HD version of your set and build it but it was not available and had no GPS...

@the_darkside_fpv 2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see a video where you try sbang lol I’m sure murders FPV or vitrifly FPV would love to get up with you and do some sbang stuff with you. Those 2 guys absolutely have to be the most prolific American sbang pilots at this point.

@glytch5 2 жыл бұрын

gaffer tape FTW. rips perfectly into any size section.

@Fam-G2 2 жыл бұрын

JB's Yard Obstacle is gonna end up like the international space station. A small section at a time from all different people donating from around the world!

@simongmedia 8 ай бұрын

Hey mate, I'm very very new to drone flying from down on AU. I just thought I'd get in touch and firstly to say I appreciate your content, it's been really helpful for me tryingto get my head around the whole hobby. I've not yet subscribed to your Patreon, but hey, maybe that day will come soon 😉 In terms of the motor wire protection. Have you ever used the 3m self amalgamating tape? I use it on a tonne of stuff from bikes to remote control cars to random stuff around the house... It is non sticky, but binds to itself. You stretch it as you wrap it so if you stretch real hard you can get a nice this layer. Once installed it essentially ends up as a retrofitted heatshrink.. Anyway, not sure if that's if any use to you at all, but yeah, cheers for the videos. Simon

@JoshuaBardwell 8 ай бұрын

Yes I've tried it, but it splits too easily. It lacks durability.