"Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” John 20:29

Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe. -John 20:29

Humanity needs to have this type of discussions more often.

After years of not believing in a god and being so called agnostic I have just realized there has to be a god. My mind cleared at the sixth minute mark when Jordan was talking about doing the right thing. and I realized that we only know what is right because god tells us what is right. Thank you Jordan for clearing my mind. (Sorry if I have grammar issues I’m am not American)

God is with you pushing you to be better. Have a great day everyone!!

What Ben said about falling in Love with God everyday, through daily rituals, is rich✨

This is absolutely beautiful! How refreshing to hear a polite, reasoned, exchange of ideas between intelligent people! Many thought provoking ideas to take with me through the day. Thank you, Sirs.

"Blessed are those who believe and yet do not see." John's Gospel is all about believing without needing to see and indeed hearing is the essence of faith.

"I think if you could see God clearly you wouldn't need faith" Well Jesus came and they still didn't have faith even after seeing miracles

It is amazing that we have the privilege to listen to discussions like this. Simply wow.

I wasn’t raised religious but have always found myself coming back to God and wanting to believe. I do believe there is a God but I didn’t have the guidance/gift of a faith passed down to me from my parents. I like to think of it as a necessary condition for us to actually learn while on earth. If God presented himself to us we would merely be obeying out of fear, hence the comparison to authoritarianism at the beginning. I also think of our existence as something too complex to understand. Even with biblical teachings. I like to use the following analogy - when a small child is told to eat their vegetables or go to bed with an empty stomach (or shown some other act of ‘tough love’) they do not understand why. But their is wisdom in it beyond their comprehension. That’s my take anyway. It’s arrogant to think you can fully understand our existence and why things are the way they are - God’s plan. There will always be elements of confusion as we are mere human beings.

I am thankful that I can see God in the lives of true believers in Him. We're promised that when we are not infected with sin, we will be worthy to see Him. My daily prayer is to help me become more like Him so others see Jesus when they look at me.

I was raised Christian and you have brought light to me when I needed it so nuch. I pray your work becomes for fruitful in light of the condition of the world and those who don't agree with those who love God. Keep the full armor of God on and you can fight the battles ahead of you. You bring me to tears when I listen to you because I stand for truth and have lost family and friends along the way. I am a social worker and use prayer and God's word to get me through this word. I wish I could meet a man that is so passionate as youself. May God richly bless you as you help and heal others.

Jordan nailed it once again, his use of grammar in the English language is spot on. Masterful. What a great discussion and as someone else noted on this comment section; the world needs more of this type of dialogue. It totally transcends most other discussions I have heard.

Jesus Christ has filled every possible void I have ever had. My research work is revealing. My company thrives. The relationships I have is something will NEVER trade for anything. God is so good. Thank you for this!

Hebrews 11:1 'Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.'

I learn everyday to become more humble ,not know a thing and know loss and loads .Hospice nurse ❤

Faith comes by hearing the word of God. Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God !

4:38 Admittedly, I was a bit distracted, not really watching the video and looking down at my phone. But then this man started speaking and my head immediately shot up. Holy crap this guy needs to narrate the Bible or something

This conversation is very refreshing, important topics discussed by intelligent people. All based on learning and not trying to one up each other.

Thank you for this. I desperately seek god in this crazy times, and most of my problems come from nobody ever really explaining to me why we do the rituals we do in religion. So you guys breaking it down like this is really an answer to my prayers

My mother had a saying: “Half the world is so smart, they’re stupid; and the other half are so stupid, they’re smart.”

I appreciate this symposium !!!💗🦋🙏

I absolutely love these isms by Peterson, like the very last line in this video? Rhetorical question of this sort, rooted in profound wisdom, not only have the potential to grip us indefinitely, but they also hit us like a ton of bricks whether we want them to or not. Priceless!

You can Not open your eyes ears without seeing the Glory and Greatness of our Creator. AMEN.

I have so many things to speak about on this. I appreciate all of your knowledge and wisdom. This is amazing for the people to hear !! Amen .. God is great. LORD almighty is here with us in these days.

Superb! Also, I love how Bishop Robert Barron can uncover the philosophical explanation of such questions into a non technical way for easy consumption.

Love this verse because it reminds me that the unseen realm is just as real, if not more real, than the material world. "By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible." Hebrews 11:3.

Here's something I think about; you are talking about wanting to see the maker of EVERYTHING! not just your sun not just your planet but every thing in existence. What honestly makes you think you'd be able to comprehend SEEING the someone with that much power.

Seeing wouldn’t be enough. It never has been and never will be. Ongoing relationship and revelation is another thing entirely.

Beautiful I love these conversations I’m not alone and I can practice my faith again to build up resilience depth truth power faith growth and strength of giving

This remind me when they use to meet all great thinkers back in Greek. Great content and God bless you all!

The different voices spoken out here are wonderful. Thank you for speaking, and sharing.

Well said. God bless you and yours

The righteous path to GOD is the hardest challenge for all.

6:35 this is a great prayer thank you for sharing this 🙏❤️

God Himself called me back home and He's presence came into my garden, on a normal day and He's presence were so mighty, so powerful, so loving,that I couldn't stand. I believe that the reason we cannot see God, is that in comparison, we are insignificant. My mind was completely blown.

This is so rich and exciting. It's like from another world, from the World of light. Thank you, Jordan!!

Liked the point of having humility by asking that which is higher to help further guide oneself in the proper path. Daily practice of prayer is a fundamental and necessary way to gain in humility, which I believe is the key to the most fulfilling life.

i have seen him. he walked me through his kingdom. you can really only see his glory. his body has a silhouette within the glory but its really tough to make. the cieling of his throne room is like a 12k t.v. of creation. its pretty awesome.

Ben Shapiro popping out of nowhere 🤣

Happy Easter everyone! Jesus is forever alive and many are his witnesses!

The thumbnail sums it all up! Seeing is indeed the weakest form of faith.

It was alluded to in the video and I would concur that it is something akin to how parents are overly controlling with the children at a very young age but then, by necessity for the child's development, step back and allow them to follow their path. There comes a point whereby children are able to learn from the experiences with the guidance but cricially free from the explicit direction of their parents. In this way distance can be said to afford freedom.

Faith is Daring the Soul to go beyond what the eyes can see and find the Lord of Love within❤️

The last question of the clip made me laugh out of my chair!

Yeaaaaa Jordan Peterson at the head of the table. We want to hear him speak the most period. The most wise, the most intelligent, the smartest the nicest, the most relatable 🩵✨🤍😁😁💗

Very interesting discussion. Thank you! 🙏

I needed this😳

4:37, when this guy started speaking i think everyone watching this, if they started to tune out, immediately perked up and tuned back in again. this guy sounds like an elven lord, his voice is like warm honey

Very illuminating video.

He speaks to me so loudly there is no doubt for me. I am unable to veer from my appointed course. God is undeniable.

without faith, it is impossible to please God

in most cases, if ya can see, ya dont need faith... Hebrews 11:1-3 Faith is hope in things not seen.... Also Corinthians 5:7 walk by faith, not by sight.... it isnt easy, some days are hard, but like in mark 9:23-24 Lord I believe, help my belief......, stay strong!

:05 YES!!! THAT'S the key to the "faith" concept! 😄❤☝🏽🤲🏽🙏🏽

Blessed are the pure in heart.

God is everywhere, seen daily! We just not paying attention

Its really uplifting listening to really bright minds discuss this topic

I'd like to see a discussion like this that includes agnostics.

This is the definition of discussion

In one way, this answers my questions on where my thoughts go whenever I try to place myself in a scenario where I'm speaking with my younger brother through an image generated by AI with a monologue of an explanation why he had to physically go and die ahead of everyone in our family.

I see God everyday in the beauty of the world.

This talk has reinvigorated my desire to wanna communion with the holy spirit constantly

I had a literal miracle once.. it took me along time to come to terms with the fact he couldn’t save the others in my life in the same manor.. there’s was alot of why me and it’s all about free will at the end of day.. we have to choose god and heaven on earth together with our free will

"They are ill discoverers that think there is no land when they can see nothing but sea." -Francis Bacon

“God's silence is not the absence of words but the very possibility of words. In fact, silence communicates God's infinite self-gift, which cannot be reduced to finite words.” -Fr. Thomas Acklin, OSB & Fr. Boniface Hicks, OSB.

Faith is blind but True faith is to believe in what you cannot see in person but to believe in and to look around you and you can see God in everything that has been created you can see God in people's souls you can feel God's presence in yourself. You know he's there there's more to God than actually seeing him !! ❤ KEEP THE FAITH KEEP GOD'S LOVE IN YOUR HEART YOUR SOUL YOUR LIFE ❤

Faith , the assurance of things hoped for evidence of things not seen.

Can I get authorization to copy and translate this awesome video into Portuguese language and share it again with Portuguese speakers in Brazil?? People need to listen to these valuable ideas!

the discussion makes me feel like that there's still a chance to restore from the world full of evil.

I like how faith and works are tightly related in scripture.

First speaker immediately draws you into the convo.

superb. god bless (literally) jordan peterson.

Faith comes from hearing the Word of God, blessed are those who believe without seeing.

This is such an interesting discussion on so many levels. And mainly because if you scratch the surface of this discussion what you find is a lack of foundation and substance, and zero insight. Rather, this is a discussion basically showing off egos. Consider the following. All the men here are intelligent, educated, polite and articulate. That is to be welcomed in today’s times of public debate, especially on social media, but that doesn’t change the arguments themselves. And all then are attempting to present some insights on existentialist topics, and most of all on God. None of them have then spoken the truth, that God is unknowable. Or it is not possible for the human mind to begin to know the depths of God, because of what God is. And so the discussion is now ended. But rather here, all want to hedge their bets. Or show off. That it might be possible to know something of God, or know of God, or in someway be able to pretend with our long sleeves in place, that we really know God by arguing this or that… So here then is such a ‘round table’ discussion titled as "Why Can't We See God?". By educated, middle aged, western and white men. And talking about one aspect of the most important and profound topic in existence. And where intellectual showing off is literally de rigueur! So first the question is asked, where are all the others who can offer input? For example, where are all the women? Now no woman may have been invited to offer their perspective. But not even these mens’ mothers? For surely as humans, we would consider all that creates us to be greater. And even common sensibility would suggest, to an intelligent, well brought up man from a stable and loving family, that he would honour his mother as the more wise, and the more insightful. So if she is still alive, where is she, when insight is needed? And particularly since she, or any mother, was the first person who ever gave them the experience of Love. And when what we see in the Judaeo-Christian religions represented around that table, is constructed on the idea that Love is important. Christianity’s name for God is actually Love. Because God or Love was the Creator, “that which is greater than thou.” And yet not one ‘gentleman’ here offers any insight from any mother or any woman even by way of apology. This is all about them, in a white man's cave, where they pretend at being gnostics. And the gullible audience, who wants to believe too in these men being gnostics, acknowledges this completely. Both in their gullibility, their fanning and their hero-worship as seen in the comments section around this one. Then too, where are all the inputs from other religions or backgrounds, beyond Judaeo-Christian? Don’t they count? This is a discussion on God, for God’s sake! (To quote the rather plaintive and egotistical Peterson, who attacks people on their arguments) Each person here spoke personally from that specific religious standpoint. All were in agreement with each other, thereby generating a very exclusionary debate. But how can God not be discussed from a universal perspective, and especially if the universal perspective is deemed central to everything? And then again, speaking of universality, where were the atheists to comment? It is well known that there is equal intelligence and articulation amongst the theists, the agnostics, and the atheists. So why are they not being offered input into the round table discussion? How about black people? This is interestingly an all-white crowd arguing earnestly on something of universal application. No blacks capable of such lofty ideas? But rather instead all right wing jews and pro-authoritarian whites? Interesting… Then what impact does that have on the direction of a discussion on matters truthful, and in terms of matters truthful? Each person around the table made comments of seeming substance and logic. I enjoyed it. Peterson of course commandeered matters with his plaintive crowing again, and acted as the fashionista model for the egos being paraded here, all in the name of intelligence. It doesn't matter, he was entertaining, and there's always one of them in the crowd. I am not a woke person. I am also not an atheist. I am equally intelligent to, and equally articulate as, any of these men. So I am also probably equally egotistical and deluded. But further, I am actually common sensical. And what I saw, with my own eyes, was very unimpressive and designed only for self-affirmation or preaching and not education. For this was not debate, or even substantial philosophic discussion. This was simply public parading and crowing a similar mindset. So in essence it was a set of charades on a preconceived theme. And using intellectual discourse about how one can be such a gnostic in a circular argument to reinforce the same mindset. So this was just the trick of simple supportive psychotherapy all around, but when these people did not need this, because ultimately nothing was forwarded. However, the viewers bought it. Because, to poor innocent them, this must be the truth, because these polite, well intentioned and intelligent men all said it is. But is it the lived experience of humanity? I don’t think so. I think you can shoot holes throughout what was said. Consider the underlying premise of this ‘erudite’ discussion. These men all came to the table with the clear recognition that they were believers in a Judaeo-Christian God. Then they attempted in an educated but very exclusionary way to use logic and psychology to convince the audience that theirs was the correct insight as to why you cannot see a God which exists. Their conclusion: God exists, and so God can be known in someway. So there was an already preconceived position. And then there was a supposed exploration of that position as being left open to be tested. But only tested by arguments and insights that supported that position. And so the position was confirmed. How neat? Their words though sounded like words of substance and insight. But was their message truthful or even logical by being full and all-encompassing? And was this truly a ‘round table’ discussion when so many people 'in the round' were just not there? Or was it akin to a lie by being hollow, and full of empty words? And then, just the aeronautical and intellectual gymnastics of a group of white, educated judaeo-christian, middle aged men with big egos and big bank accounts to boot, all with histories of self-promotion and of being immersed in value judgements of others, as each of the records of these opinion-makers/talking heads show? Another simple fact should also be appreciated. It is that anything can actually be argued for, depending upon the assumptions upon which you are making your argument. God in fact designed this as a useful invisible cloak for himself. For me, this video is a clever but hollow discussion, with no solid foundation. It is an intellectual exercise of no real merit, and by a bunch of guys pandering to their egos and affirming each other. They speak because they can. It is sometimes though said that, “all great thinking ends in a sigh.” In this case I would suggest, “all great thinking ends in a groan.” No foundation for God’s existence has ever been lain. And why? Because God both exists and doesn’t exist in this universe. It is as simple as that. And it is allowed for by this universe of paradoxes that this God created. Somewhat like the quantum mechanical law that posits that a particle is in all places at the same time before it is observed. Because it is not a particle then, it is a wave-particle in property. And so must be treated on probability not exactitude. And that’s why God is unknowable in this current state. And where the discussion would end, unless other agendas crowd in. And it is also why you have to find meaning through your own actions, not simply your words and your logic. I don’t disagree with what was said. I actually quite liked it all. But it was not the whole truth by any means, nor even half the truth, for there is so much more.

Very interesting conversation.

Faith is the Substance of things hoped, for evidence of things, not seen ( Saint Paul)

What is shocking is that there will be a % of people that will still reject God if they saw him. How unbelievable is that?

We can see God spiritually... as we become more and more worthy of how he already has invited us to see how he has revealed himself to us in the Holy Bible, especially those books regarding his life, death, and resurrection.

Great discussion

God is a feeling within our soul, that touches our heart with love and compassion.

Loving these conversations each week and hunger for more...

We are God experiencing life as ourselves. In my way of seeing things.

Thank you 💯 ...

"I don't believe in God. I know. It's not a question of belief." Jung.

Good points, but isn't it great that we "saw" Him in Jesus Christ: 'Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you such a long time, and do you not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How do you say, ‘Show us the Father?’ -John 14:9 And we "see" Him through His works: "For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse." -Romans 1:20 Amen✨ God bless you all!💜

In my church a common mantra is “faith procedes the miracle”

Heaven and earth are full of your glory...God is EVERYWHERE!

If god literally flew across the sky and said to all "i am real" then faith no longer exists. Seeing and knowing god exists doesn't mean that god will speak to you or anyone else. Dieties are supposed to given us free will. I could see and know that you, reading this, exists. but that doesn't change the way i live my life. The question then comes down to: If we could see god, and in doing that would change the way you lived your life. Why are you living your life the way you are now then? If physical evidence for or against the existance of god changed the way you live, then thats a problem with you and not god

I have a short story to tell. I'm an agnostic. I was never raised in a Faith and I've never set foot in a church. After listening to people like Jordan Peterson, Russel Brand, and other people about Religion (Particularly Christianity) I grew interested over time. Not long ago I decided to "Pray". I've never prayed in my life, so I just kinda winged it. I gave the typical "Show me a sign" type prayer. I wanted God to show me he's there. I didn't expect much. A Few days after that, I was eating at my kitchen table watching something on my phone when I noticed something in the corner of my eye. It was a stamped piece of metal with a print of a Dragonfly on it and it said in cursive "I am always with you.". I still have it and will probably never get rid of it. Could this have been something from God himself? Maybe. I want it to be. I think my life would drastically change for the better if God without a doubt, for certain revealed himself. Again could it have been him? I'm open to the possibility but I don't really believe so. Maybe I need a little more persuading. The only thing that could really convince me is a Jesus level miracle. Like walking on water level. Or even a burning bush moment. I just don't know what to make of the whole thing.

What interesting set up from the profound background to the beautiful table and the seating arrangement, everything has a purpose.

To God belongs the east and the west, so where ever you turn there is the face of God.

If we could see God we would die, He is perfectly holy and we are not

Doesn’t that make faith the weakest form of seeing?

Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me, a sinner. Amen.

In the Vedas (the most authoritative scriptures on spiritual understanding) it is explains that we cannot see God for the simple reason that God is the highest spiritual being, with a spiritual body. At the present moment our eyes are in the mode of material vision ( we are suffering from material cataract) and so we cannot see that which is spiritual. Until we purified our eyes-vision (go through a cataract-surgery ) we cannot see or understand God. And what is that cataract surgery? The development of love for God. And how do we achieve that love for God? By going through the process of self-realization, which involves different steps, first of all being LISTENING intensely and sincerely to those that they have reached the level of pure love, or to receive the level of spiritual knowledge intimately related to God. Intellectual speculations will not do by itself. But if that intellectual speculation lead us to the point of accepting a high spiritual authority, then it's all good.

May anyone who reads this comment be blessed by God in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Hallelujah for the Lord Jesus Christ, the King and Savior for the eternity. Amen.

As someone exploring their beliefs right now, are we not going to just end up in Gods kingdom anyways? (Just assume you are for a moment. Assume you hit the criteria required to be saved.) So if it's "authoritarian" eventually than what is the point of the freedom now? Aside from of course the things that are most obvious: Like needing to weed out those who are undeserving of God's love or something along those lines, would it not be better to just save us all? If God loves all of us, why not save all you can? That's the idea of heroism that we as humans truly appreciate, why do we need to go through this kind of thing? I am also of the understanding that we are living in sin because of the actions of a single woman and a single man. Why do we, generations later, who have almost no connection at all to the original have to suffer for their sin? Jesus died on the cross for our sin as well, the ones that I guess we have committed from birth (depending on who you ask) but why was that not the moment of the end? Why allow it to not only continue before his death and resurrection but also beyond and into today? And so at some point, the end time will come. And some will have yet to be born and some who are born who are yet to sin. Are these people saved? (Depending on who you ask) no and some yes. So why even allow it to continue to that point? Why let humanity continue to suffer through sin after the birth, death, and resurrection and then ultimately the return. Even after the return, will we just end? Or will life continue here while those who have abstained from dis-faithful behavior experience the kingdom of God. Maybe these questions have simpler answers, and maybe someone will comment here about them. I guess really I am asking us all to ask these questions rather than find an internet answer. I am still trying to find my way to what is right and these are just some things I have debated in my own faith.

I love this

Nice, new episode