actually

He managed to forget 2005 Liverpool. They had pretty much unknown team, especially weak one vs. Milan

Exactly

Don’t Fuckle With Shuckle they’re a big club, but their squad was garbage that year. They were absolutely a massive underdog

@Don’t Fuckle With Shuckle That AC Milan side had just won the champions league 2 years ago. That AC Milan team was one of the best sides in their history. That Liverpool team had finished the season on around 58 pts, behind Everton...

I'm watching this after PSG gets knocked out, Roma also gets knocked out, also Borussia Dortmund gets knocked out by Tottenham, and, of course, the game that could've been 5-1 6-3 if Ajax didn't miss some of the goals.

@ARTHURESPEL Yeah, Ajax is flying in this Champions League

@@jica2295 this is a big year for football because we are at least going to have 2 or 3 new football giants and i think 1 or 2 teams are going to go down a little

All im sayin just wait for next season. HALA MADRID

@@RaygunzGOAT yep we've been champions of europe for 1000 over days... time to let the smaller boys have a taste of it.... but we'll be back next season bigger and stronger for sure...

@Leeber Gruber So far it seems Ajax is up for a do-over, so probably not just 'once' ;-)

@@musje83 Tottenham say hi

@@r3zaful After the 2-7 vs Bayern and the 2-2 vs Olympiacos I sincerely hope they make it through the knockout phase... just so we can take revenge at some point :-)

@@musje83 Tottenham is on building phase like how Liverpool plays so badly during klop early years, wait until they got the formula but not this year.

Some team can go through but the rich club will always win this game.

Liverpool and Tottenham are elite Clubs. Ajax didn't even go to the final. He is right.

@@youmed1567 yet you ignore ajax knocked out clear favorites real madrid and gigantic competitors juventus and tottenham isn't a real big club, it's in the high midst zone, similar to clubs like napoli, inter and monaco (before they became shit)

@@youmed1567 Ajax knocked out real and Juventus and liverpool and Tottenham had some brilliant comebacks

And the _boring final_

@@youmed1567 LOL Tottenham "elite"

Watch ajax lose

Video was made before that dickheads. How was he supposed to know that they would do that

@@random_guy_on_youtube5342 everyone knows it's a joke r/woooosh

^^^

Dartslife, obviously you are ignorant and do not understand statistics.

lmaaooo

lol

Cmon you spurs!!!

Facts this mate is stupid

Bruh you know all defence bvb were injured thats why they lost

Actual non-cancerous use of this meme

The last good champions league season

This was before all the amazing games happened

@@memers94 It wasn't before all the amazing games happened. Ajax v Bayern in the group stages was a brilliant game to watch.

He is an idiot

@@memers94 has 3 subscribers what a fraud

Yep... this vid did not age well lol

Who cares? They have literally no chance of winning... it’s just going to be another big club yet again

@@therealtigertalk The chances of one of the big teams winning is obviously really high. Look though at a couple years ago when Leicester won the EPL, it was a 5000/1 chance.

Robrodius Yes that’s true, but you have to admit that football is a very corrupt sport. Financial fair play is a joke. Things need to change. But we have people like you (I’m not mad at you btw I’m sure your a good person) who support the system by ignoring the blatant corruption and lack of competition. It’s been going on for ages now and it’s just pathetic at this point. I mean they are now even talking about creating a new exclusive super league.

David Kess We don’t have to admit to anything with your dumb logic

Darkness yep so corruption doesn’t exist in soccer. Hmm...🤔ok

And Liverpool went underdogs as well the guy is taking out his assistant..lols

Chelsea is a rich club lol

Financially they weren't. Accept it.

dummest nice

Lucas Dogan u haven’t seen his vid where he says human evolvement and football tactics are over

So true

Clearly he hasn’t watched Man City play then ...

@@rttujks- Manchester City has had money for 10 years and never won the UCL. Same for PSG.

@@pereiraplaza222 we were talking about bags of money scoring goals, not them winning the UCL lol...

@@rttujks- At the end that's the main goal of all that money and all those goals: To win prices. And for a club in Europe the highest achievable price is the UCL.

Marseille was the second richest team in Europe behind Milan and was relegated the following season for match fixing, à real mafia, same story different players

Exactly, underdogs aren't always meant to win.

Of course they were domestic league champions, otherwise they wouldn't be in the EC1 at that time. The point is that if you were building a good team then, you could keep your best players for a few years. Nowadays players just get bought away by the big clubs and smaller clubs don't get a chance to be better. It's not about youth academies, scouting networks and innovative playing styles anymore. It's about assembling the best players out there. Hence the rich clubs always win. Hell, even Barcelona relies on just buying nowadays.

Problem is that it's not really a champions league is it? The majority of the participants aren't even champions.

@@Rockpotje Obviously that doesn't apply to every player at a smaller club. If you are implying that a team like nottingham managed to win partially because the culture of buying the best players wasn't present back then.. then can you explain Nottingham Forest signing Trevor Francis mid season? He was in 2 previous team of the years with Birmingham and became the first million pound english footballer after his transfer to Forest, he also scored the winner, set up by Jon Robertson in their 1979 final against Malmo.

Couple of years? 😂 Couple of decades

Can't think of a more entertaining one. Most combacls on champions league history. If the final is as good as the rest of the tournament it'll probably be the best

Too bad the finals were boring

The majority of them are boring and I find them a real turn off. The whole thing is designed to give the clubs from the so called "elite leagues" a bigger advantage than they have already. How the hell do Man City get parachuted into the group stages by right, just because of the league they play in, whilst Ajax (one of the most successful clubs of all time in the Champions League/European Cup) have to play in qualifying rounds? The whole thing is like having a marathon race, where certain runners are allowed to take drugs (just like so many clubs from "elite leagues" end up financially doping, with their rich sugar daddy owners). Then it turns out that the riff raff who aren't allowed to dope, have to run the full 26 mile course (with back markers getting periodically eliminated from the race) whilst the ones who are doping get to join the race at a later stage. Of course one of them would probably win the race, even with a more level playing field, but further barriers are put in the way of one of the non dopers winning.

You missed the point

Benfica of the 50's and 60's was the second best team in the champions league after Real Madrid.

@@pacoramon9468 which real madrid? specifically? that cross and luck team?

Yupp with eusobio benfica were unstoppable

paco ramon yeah if Milan didn’t exist

Yeah I agree, it's shocking and insulting that England has 4 places in their league yet the winner of the Scottish League has to go through play offs. It's rigged.

MARC-ANDY MYRTIL you mean quarterfinals 😂

@@blechbuchse8284 they did reach the q's. Ask Luis Suarez, he'll tell you all about it.

DannyO They have had good managers they just cant win.

@@adeezy5503 like the dude who choled a 4-0 agregate, or the other dude who choked a 4-0 in a halftime?

No Name I feel like the blame cant be 100% on the coach the players played like shit

Tshepo Rabekane yeah but the system perpetuates that. The big teams get the top pots and easier games and when you top the group you get an easier game in the round of 16, it just makes it so the big guys have a better chance to win and they don’t need to be given that much of a head start considering they already have the better players and biggest budgets

Peter E : The system is designed to make the game reasonably fair and entertaining. By separating the teams into pots, they avoid the possibility of all big teams being in the same group or all small teams winding up in the same groups. There is a balance to be had, and then in the latter stages it's an even plane field. To me it makes sense.

Every football league is kind of boring. The problem is, there aren't enough elite teams. There should be more than 4 favorites.

@@marknormand5276 You say there aren't enough elite teams but how's a team supposed to become elite when they're in the 4th pot of the CL and they're up against 3 top sides so they've got no chance and then get eliminated. The team that finishes bottom of their group gets the least amount of money so they end up selling whatever good players they have because the big boys come calling and they cant afford to match whatever salaries the elite teams are offering. The CL is set up for the rich to get richer and it makes it so we never get another elite team unless some Arab country decides to buy a club.

@@tsheporabekane4172 What's wrong with the big teams playing each other in the group stages, the group stages are boring as it is right now because the big guys just roll over the little guys. If the system was completely random, we could have Bayern, Madrid and Juventus in the same group, which means one of them is done and a smaller club can take their place in the round of 16 meaning that smaller club gets more money and can maybe hold on to their better players

You could argue that those players were not household names before that UCL win. Even if they were already a very successful team before lifting the trophy...

Not to mention Vítor Baia, Paulo Ferreira, Jorge Costa, Nuno Valente, Costinha, Pedro Mendes, Maniche, Benni McCarthy

Russell, they were nobodies before the UCL win

We'll *have* to get a test done one day...

Do you suggest that we create a league where the winners of Europe's top 32 leagues compete?? Do you really want to watch the Hungarian champions? Or the Lithuanian, Moldova and Danish champions? Or we could limit it to the winners of the top 8 leagues... but a 8 team competition again is rubbish.. For me the champions league should contain europes BEST teams. What alternative are you putting forward here that makes it more exciting? @@dwkickoff

Hahaha that's what

It is clearly named "Champion" League. League of Champions. Champion = Elite 😂

But he also mentioned among the champs , it's to predictable who is gonna win it.

Having an underdog win every year won't make them underdogs anymore and this dude will be unsatisfied😒

@@Hollowizeify yes and real are out bayern is out psg is out

Word.

getting higher picks in the nfl and nba when your team sucked helps keep the league flowing, wheres the flow in CL? in 20 years it will be mostly the same. I could miss the cl for 20 years and not much will have changed...

AV33 that’s just not true at all

i do agree with you to some extent prize money should be awarded the most for the winning team and it isn't to unfairly spread. But consistency is much better than being a one off as football especially in England is so competitive between the top six and you have to be somewhat consistent to be better than the other clubs.

Well the prize money is very important for small clubs that somehow make it into the Champions League. For example a team gets 15 million Euros just for being in the group stage. That's a lot of money for small clubs.

he’s deluted

Atlético *

Because Alvaroooo

Like *HOW?*

Status bro . Refs are paid to support the high status clubs ( Madrid , Barca , juve , Bayern ) coz their fans want to see them go ahead instead of the truly deserved

Indeed. If he had focused on the coefficient alone, this video would have been a very valid critique.

one word man yes because the players in those squads work hard to become the best players in the world..

one man word tbh same

But it starts to get boring, they should distribute the money more evenly so even smaller clubs can try and have a share of luck winning the big trophies

@@mediadon6545 if the money is distributed more evenly then it is less impressive that a small club has succeeded.

one word man How so? The league will become more competitive and much more fair! Also having money does not guarantee you being the champion, there are many factors behind that.

No one said that, swatej. Underdog teams that are mentioned are Porto, Ajax, Dortmund and Marseille....

@@dwkickoff I know but you said it had been 14 years since an underdog won the UCL when Chelsea and inter won it in last 10 years

Alright, fair enough. But were they really an underdog back in the day? They were a big team, winning Serie A and they had Mourinho as a coach. Actually they were favorites in the final against Bayern Munich, don't you think?

@@dwkickoff Generally I would agree with you...but any team winning in that period other than Barca should have been considered underdogs.

@@dwkickoff they were big underdogs when they beat Barcelona in the semifinal, both Inter in 2010 and Chelsea when they won it

I only came back here to see anyone was memeing this video hahaaha

Umm Bayern won,

I here after they both lose

🤣🤣

Thera are two Ronaldos, CR7 and the fat one, or real one as some put it.

@@damasek219 el fenomeno not fat ronaldo

Not anymore

in the end it won the second best english team. not a surprise...

@@marpagapal3312 Bruh, liverpool are better than man city

Totenham:let me introduce myself

@Assrol Paint 3-1

2 years ago Monaco won Ligue 1 so it makes sense

2 years ago they had mbappe and an insane amount of talent

So Monaco is gonna be winning champions you're saying...

Where are they now?

Monaco has become shit now, After selling their talents. They are more of a business really, than a winning club.

alfred pn It would be better if Ajax won

@@WizardPJfan True. I couldn't bare the sight of Pepe lifting another UCL

Liverpool

Thier most probable path will be Vs Liverpool Vs Barca Vs Man.city Not that Easy eh 😂

But Liverpool are winning 2 goals to 0 to 99 percent chance it will be a ilte club

John Cornell u must smoke crack lol Liverpool beat one of the best ever sides with legends in every position with a team that had Baros, Djimi Touré and Smicer and Kewell while Chelsea had title winners and a vast experienced squad not to mention the money that team cost. Liverpool’s 2005 win especially the way the game went with being 3 down at HT with that strike force of Kaka, Crespo n Shev all at the top of their game don5 be silly. Pls ffs

John Cornell no way is Chelsea beating Bayern bigger then Liverpool v Milan

@John Cornell nah it wasn't because they came back 3-0 to win the title

Chelsea in 2012

@Arch Stanton no way mate that Milan team in 2005 was incredible every position had a legend

obviously not

Swarup Banerjee yeah clearly liverpool and atletico are underdogs

2003-04 monaco v porto?

Liverpool reachin finals ?? They were favs to reach final last year :3

@@Saurabhrkohardy WTF ? Nobody expected them ? Salah exploded in this season. They were underdogs

Athletico and Liverpool are super clubs not underdogs

Referee helped Madrid these last few years alot, including this year.

@@supimsatan yeah how did the referee disallow Ajax's goal? Courtois made a mistake and they scored..the Ajax forward was just standing there , courtois went towards him realising he fucked up! After they scored look at the Madrid players reaction including courtois, they didn't appeal for any kind of foul or offside! If VAR was not present in that game, nobody would see that goal as an issue.. VAR is important but the structure and laws in implying it is ridiculous!

@@supimsatan This year, VAR?

Savvle he is right ajax scored a goal and it was disallowed and most people agree it was a goal

Except the player(Tadic) wasn't even offside when the header was made.. Courtois screwed up and went towards the Ajax player to try and block..He wouldn't have saved it even if Tadic was not in that position..His reaction said it all!!

No

eugene akl I know spurs haven’t even spent a single penny on new players 😂😂

dortmund didn't have their entire team, sad cuz they would have a chance with reus on the field.

@@eugenest neither spurs

@@dimitrisk.2443 only harry kane

@@eugenest and dele alli

So true ((

ajax or tottenhem will be in the finals aswel

@@alwaysjarron6260 indeed.

@@meshachgopaul1077 lmao, thats arguably the best game in spurs history and they didnt even win

BEASTTGT 101 yes I think he is going to regret because Ajax will maybe win this year

right here!! lol

Me

And salah and mane werent

@@izdavid5933 Mané was, Firmino wasn't

@@Nadim833 my bad

Well, that's the point. It doesn't happen that much.

when you buy a defender with 70 mil and a goalkeeper with 45 mil you not a small team you just pretend

They will always have hope, but what did you make of the loss to Tottenham?

They lost Sven who was their main man of scouting in next 5 year we will see how Dortmunt will end up

DW Kick off! I think at full strength they could have beaten Spurs over 2 legs, but the 3 goal margin seems insurmountable

ADAJ3 you have to remember spurs were less at full strength than Dortmund playing without a left back without Kane, dele and trippier. And 4 goals is a lot to have to score to stay in. You can’t use we weren’t at full strength as an excuse because we weren’t either

@@ADAJ3KINGANGEL have you forgotten that Tottenham beat Dortmund 3-1,3-1 last year?

;)

Who will be here when two from Bayern Munich/Liverpool and Atletico Madrid/Juventus are also eliminated...

No Ronald no champions league for RM.

I'm here from the future, AJAX KNOCKED OUT JUVE

@@caadvice4597 No Madrid no champions league for Ronaldo.

Exactly. Well said

Have a good point here tbh

Marseille fixed everything but their UCL trophy in 1993.Uefa uld hv taken it back if they were found guilty

@@jaytettehquarshie1522 The match fixing was a domestic match 6 days before the UCL Final v Milan. Tapie attempted too bribe a Valencienne player to take it easy in the match so that OM were fresher for the final, the player refused and blew the whistle. OM were a great team, but I'm not sure fans want a team bankrolled by a rich owner who is prepared to offer bribes in order to win?

Messi really, how so? Messi haven't done or won anything in Europe lately, and in the last 9 years he won twice. Messi have only been dominant in laliga.

Fr and it's so sad

Do you think they can afford to offer them big enough wages though, Lilo? Or risk losing them on a free transfer?

@@dwkickoff Sometimes a Players go for a big opportunity, but then don't get enough chance so get lend to other club. Man I really know how it is because here in Brazil it's very rare when a good promising player isn't sold before his 22-23. Vinícius Jr. Was sold when he was 16, Philipe Coutinho was sold to Inter when he was 15. There is a boy from Fluminense who is 17 and already got sold to Watford. By these passing years after 2012 none South American team has ever won the Club World Cup and sometimes don't even get into the final.

Must be tough seeing all the Brasilian talent leave! Who are the next big talents coming out of South America, Lilo?

@@dwkickoff Well I can only say by Brazil. Rodrygo from Santos is going to Madrid at half of year. The promising players who are already in Europe are Militao who is in Porto and Paulinho who is in Bayern Leverkuse

DW Kick off! If a player is really loyal to the team money wouldn’t be the first priority they dream of being stars but half of them just go the the biggest clubs and unless they get lucky just rot and waste their careers for money

yeah and you also didn't sell lewandowski, hummels and gotze the exact year after they had started becoming good

@Dylan Kasperowicz lewa, gotze, hummels

You do realize that Bayern just buys out the Bundesliga to weaken their opponents. Selling götze, lewa, and hummels wasn’t a choice of theirs, they just want more money to invest in younger players like bruun larsen and sancho

@@NitrosNeeded wow what an expert . Dortmund also buy Nico Schulz and Thorgan Hazard so oof (and might buy Brandt too)

Android Gaming and WWE no. Stick with wwe

That chelsea team was weak like the 2014/15 team deserved to win it

Yeah istanbul

only two examples that happened 7, and 16 years ago, two measley example good fucking job...

nothing! they don't pay the players, they play for free? They don't buy players only in the last season.

@@englishesl3521 He meant that Tottenham didn't buy any players in the transfer window (except Ndombele, I think)

Ed Armitage ajax didn’t win 3 in a row in 95 they won that in 71, 72 and 73. Then the big players were all sold in one go. For twenty years Ajax were nowhere on the champions league’s level. Then in 95 they won it out of nowhere

​@@Jay-jh5re Yes, different times. From the 70's to the 90's it was still possible for a Dutch team to compete in Europe. Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV all won silverware. Today it is nearly impossible. This season we even couldn't see the Dutch champion qualify directly for the group stages of the Champions League anymore, thanks to bad results in Europe. Luckily, both Ajax and PSV managed to qualify anyway through the play-offs but for a big club in an smaller league it is a disaster to miss out on the Champions League because they need the money so they won't get too far behind. It's great to see Ajax reach the quarter finals again but we all know that next season all the good players are gone and they have to rebuild again to stay competitive. Meanwhile, the big leagues and clubs are guaranteed 4 spots. I know their clubs have more quality but I would like to see a more balanced system.

Benfica is one of the best clubs of all time. 9 european finals.

jppcbc 00 AC Milan is kind of the same story, but it doesn’t matter how many times you are in the finals if they only win a few

@@Jay-jh5re they won it 2 times, in a row. We have been unlucky and were in a europa league final in 2013 so we're still pretty good.

Here after spurs beat ajax

Lewis Sandy here after Liverpool won

Herr after Liverpool lost.

Here after 2nd round of 2019/20 gs

*wait till he sees the rest lmao*

Noki I’m here after Tottenham beat Ajax

Exactly, Ronald. That's our point.

Bro Valencia and Atlanta

valencia ,atalanta, liepzeg?

The comparison is that there are no teams outside the Top 5 countries this time around (Spain, England, Italy, Germany, France). Both Atalanta and Valencia will face each other (and the winner will surely get eliminated on the next round), I can't see Leipzig going too much further aswell. The odds that we'll see the same Real/Barcelona/Bayern/Atleti or an English team on the semifinals is huge once again.

@@dwkickoff so basicly what you want is an underdog story every year.. use your brain pls

Harry Baker he didn’t lol

Lpoh Bkko “clubs lifting the trophy are now light years away from winning it again” or something like that. 2:20

Harry Baker he can still use it as distance idiot. Still fits the way he said it.

@@bobbysanchezlive659 no need to get hostile

Harry Baker That is referring to distance...

true

The same Liverpool that spent over £100m in each of the last two summers? Proper underdog

Nope. The guy from the video is right . I’m a Barcelona fan but it’s true than the big clubs have a ton more $$$ than the rest of the clubs .

Wrong he is correct big cubs like Ajax PSV Celtic, Rangers, Porto ect..... will never get to win it because uefa makes them go through 8 games just to get to the group stages while teams like arsenal who finish 4th in England qualify automatically, the system is flawed massively the old European cup format was much better.

Scott Whitley lol Celtic and rangers are miles away from being big teams. Just because they are the best teams in Scotland doesn’t make them good

Precisely, Mark. It's getting harder for clubs to stay competitive with the bigger clubs. Do you think the UCL should restructure how it distributed prize money?

@@dwkickoff If UEFA doesn't start enforcing financial fairplay rules, the big clubs will become so powerful that if UEFA wants to enforce financial fairplay later on, they can just break away and create their own league.

@@dwkickoff prize money distribution wont make a difference. the money isnt in prizes, its in television rights & merchandise, which is a direct reflection of the popularity of a team. no point in getting small clubs to compete if they dont have the fan base to back the club financially. even rich owners dont expect to just keep throwing money at a club. they want returns at some point... the non-elite clubs are actually doing better in some places than they were in the 90s. the english title race has gone from 2 clubs to at least the top 4. spurs have broken into the european spots. leicester won the title. atletico won the title. valencia pushed for one a few times. dortmund returned to challenging during the late 2000s. napoli were runners up not long ago. granted, theyd all have a tough time winning the UCL, but thats normal...apart from those 5 years where 'smaller' clubs won it, but even then the final still had one major club.

Man City became an elite club. All you need is a super rich owner with barrels of oil

sTorm Joester Manchester city is literally owned by a country

yeah

Bruhh! If a team is weak,then it simply won't make it to the latter stages.

It's a big dilemma for some of these former European giants!

AC Milan dug their own grave..They sold their best players like Kaka and they depended on an ageing squad for success..they never prepared for replacing Nesta, Seedorf, Gattuso, Maldini, and many others..Its their own fault. Same with Inter..Apart from Juventus every other big team in Seria A are a mess..

So do you think it's more about poor management, Sriram? Could AC Milan return to the top in the current climate?

Seria A in general is a mess..It's obvious its poor management..Look at the transfer policy..How many times have big players switched between Milan-Inter-Juventus-Roma, and these are one of the biggest rivalries in world football..I think the league needs to be fixed first and then the clubs will sort it out..Not enough Italian talents like before.. Imagine if Milan and Inter were as stable as the other big teams, top class players would be distributed in many leagues and better competition in champions league..Nowadays there are only a handful of top class teams to choose for young talents like M'bappe to sign for..Barca and Madrid are the obvious..then comes Bayern and Juventus...and then clubs with just money like PSG and Man City.. Man Utd and Chelsea attract players but they are not doing well in the league..Liverpool develop decent players into world class but i don't think they could afford someone like an M'bappe! If we had Milan,Inter,Arsenal,Dortmund,Lyon,Marseilles,Roma,Valencia, Porto,Benfica,Ajax,PSV,etc.., with stable and high revenue it would level the playing field and give top players a variety of options to play for and make it exciting!! And agents play a big role as well.. It looks like the agent decides the future for the player and not the player himself! Sad

Y’all should watch Liga MX their you’ll see teams being good one season and bad the next. Everyone has a chance their to win. Guadalajara has 12 titles under their name and they didn’t make to Liguilla or America who was champ last season now sits in 11 place. Teams like Atlas and Leon that did bad now are doing good so far and don’t forget Querétaro which usually never wins games they surprisingly made it to Liguilla last apertura season and now this clausura they haven’t won a game and it’s already in week 8 of 17

because it has the most money, but it's flaw will be it's demise going forward...