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For those interested. Martin Gore is a talented songwriter. He is specially a good lyric writer. But what everybody need to know is that it is in the studio where the magic happens. Alan Wilder was the engineer that crafted the DM sound in the studio. Gore wrote the songs but it was Alan that made them come to life. Without Alan Wilder DM never would have sounded this great. In my world that means that Alan Wilder is the Co Writer to the songs. It is in the studio the songs comes to life. Songs change in studio and can become a totally different song than when it first was created. Songs can be bits and pieces that later comes to life in a studio. Alan Wilders music skills is very Underrated. I say this again. Without him DM never would have sold 100+ millions of records. That's a fact. I Salute Alan Wilder. A Music Genius.

Alan is a genius. DM was never the same after he left. Very sad. Imagine all of the great songs they would have made had he not left.

Alan was the Depeche Mode sound. No excuses! He created it working hard in the recording studio. Every DM fan of the golden age agrees with that.

Dave: Good Voice Martin: Good Lyrics Alan: Good Sounds Andrew: Good Morning

Martin is the brain, Dave is the voice of the band.... while Alan..... he was the soul. And will always the soul of Depeche Mode

Thumbs up if you want another Depeche Mode album with Alan Wilder (Now more than ever after Andy’s tragedy)

Basically, Alan was the only adult in the room. DM lost their essence when Alan left. Dear Alan, you are my favorite DM member.

Alan turned Martin's ideas into actual, World class songs.

I guess he left as the Balance wasn’t right :)

As a massive fan of DM, I want to know why I love specific songs so much. Probably because of the input of Alan Wilder more than anything else.

Alan the perfectionist, Alan the quality geek, Alan the architect, Alan the detail seeker.

I think since Alan Wilder's departure the band has been releasing great singles but never a truly great album. Alan Wilder was a visionary artist who was able to see all the incredible potential hidden in Martin Gore's songs. I still hope he will come back eventually as a producer although I do know it's quite unlikely.

I have known this since Alan's departure. Depeche Mode's sound would never be the same without Alan. Their best albums were created under his clock and all DM's fans knew he was not being recognized enough for his work or creativity. We all noticed that in the photos and videos, he was always in the back, so the best thing he could have done was to - "Leave in Silence!"

Hello, I as a fan of Depeche Mode, I have some considerations to make on the subject. I am a professional musician, I am a keyboardist and programmer, and I had a Depeche Mode cover band in my country, and unfortunately because of the difficult logistics, I and the other members, we live in different and far-flung cities, and I couldn't go on, because the when they were going to hire us for a performance, it made it really expensive and difficult, so I decided to abandon my former bandmates. As for Alan, I can say that yes, DM's sonority changed drastically after his departure ... I usually say that there are 2 DMs, the before and after Alan Wilder. Alan was the sound wizard, a sampler expert, and he loved to stay in the studio, as he always said 'Martin left, Dave disappeared, and Andy took care of his own interests'. He even said in the documentary SOFAD, that if it were just for Martin, the songs would only have the DEMO format, and that he and Flood would stay in the studio fixing things. And yes, I would very much like Alan to return to the DM. That Somebody performance, at the Royal Albert Hall, when he came by surprise, we see there how much affection the fans still have for Alan. And recently, the DM received the recognition, of being in the Hall of Fame, and Dave thanked with affection everything that Alan did for the band, and even won the clapping (always clapping) of Andy. Do you want to know what Alan Wilder would be like at DM recently? Just look for the remix he made of In chains, and let's get the idea of ​​the density that his arrangements gave DM again, just spectacular, and of course, there is a stupid portion of DM fans, who don’t know the difference in the sound that Alan gave to the band, and don’t know the difference in the band after he left ... these, we ignore...Alan gave Martin's lyrics and Dave's voice the necessary magic and sounds that made us travel without leaving home.

Alan Wilder gave DM its signature sound, which skyrocketed the band's popularity. DM has not been the same without Alan's input.

Just by hearing Alan's letter, you can feel how punctual, sensitive and classy he was and is. Also, just by seeing these pictures from 1993, you can say how Alan was unhappy and uncomfortable in the band or, better to say, in his own skin by that time. When it is turned into torture and disrespect, love isn't love anymore, and friendship isn't friendship anymore. There's no amount of money and fame that could cover it oh heal it. I love DM, and I see departure of Alan Wilder like a huge loss, that could be compared, for me at least, as Metallica loosing brilliant Cliff Burton. Alan gave some kind of space, depth and edge into the DM-sound, so I think that that's is that missing piece of the puzzle there. Anyhow, I understand and support his decision to leave. It was tough, hard and painful thing to do, but, sometimes, you just have to do it, you just need to act, to say it. And he did it in the best way possible! So, my congrats to the great gentleman and ingenious musician! Thank you Nick, so much, for the video, story and the opportunity to give comment on it! May God bless you and all the best in your future work! :)))) All my greeting for all true, real and honest DM-fans here and all over the world! Dusan!

Since alan left , depeche wasn't the same for me. I think Ego's within depeche mode won't allow alan to return .Martin was quoted as saying about alan returning , "its something we dont talk about".. Well martin , maybe it's time you should . .Anyway , I Love his recoil project . And the work he did on the talk talk tribute album.alan is an Amazing talented genius and a gent . And is sorely missed by DM fans like myself.

The Sound of DM is not the same anymore since Mr. Wilder left..

Alan was the soul of the band.. A sensitive guy, who felt like loneless. Unfortonally never had the career he could have.

As a fan since 1983 i have to say: Alan wilder is a synth wizzard,a pure gentleman and a musical master mind....his decision to leave the band is a big loss FOREVER.🥺

I followed Alan and his Recoil project after he left the band. His incredible 2007 album 'subHuman' was sadly his last. He announced that he had not made any money from it. Since then I have only watched him become more bitter and disillusioned about the music business. It's incredibly sad to me that such an amazing musician has apparently given up for good. And there is still so much great music he could make for us...

I admit it, I cried when i found out that Alan left the band. Wasn't happy with his decision, but I understood why and respected it. Pretty sure we've all had jobs where one person seems to handle way more than their fair share of the workload and others loaf about yet everyone gets paid the same. You can tolerate that situation only for so long before you leave.

I fell in love with Depeche Mode in 1981 with the release of New Life and followed them ever since. Flood and Dave Bascombe have both said of Alan that He was the uncredited producer of MFTH and Violator. After the vacuum Alan left they had to have three people to not replace Alan but do his usual workload on producing/sound creation/arrangement/playing, they made Ultra in the same ways they had Violator and SOFAD but after not touring Ultra the year off took them to the Singles Tour. Enter A Keyboard player who barely looked at the sheet music, as well and not being too fused about how accurate the samples are to the originals and don't even get me started on the Drummer. When I saw them in 2017 at The Olympic Stadium, World In My Eyes had so much over drumming that it just didn't sit right with me. Alan was the soundscape artist who brought Martin's wonderful songs to not just the next level but something truly groundbreaking. Just listen to the Recoil atmospherics and you have an idea of what Alan brought to the table.

Thank you Alan Wilder. Your contribution to DM's music has had immeasurable effect on so many of us fans around the world. I hope this comment finds you somewhere sometime when you need to hear it most. So many of those songs we cherish that have been touched by you will live on forever for generations to come. I take solace in this fact and celebrate you every time I listen to your music. In the end, we understand why you left. But all know that the rest of DM and the world suffer well for it.

We all know from our workplaces that there are always hard workers, averages and passengers in the team. Hard workers are not blind, they are aware of the situation and they can only keep working silently up to a certain level. You either recognize them proactively or they start asking for a praise themselves. The issue is that they deserve extra credit both verbally and financially. Pay rise is inevitable or they set their deadlines. Their moral character doesnt allow them to slow down and to start underperforming. They are top guys until the last minute. This is Alan, you cant change it. He will never come back because he carries more emotional memories than the rest. They were not aware of hurting him so they dont recall.

I just think he waited a long time for a "thank you" he never had from the others. At least fans can say it. So if you read that comment ? Thank you Mister allan Wilder, from the botom of my heart. I will probably never meet you irl, but if i could, i would bow down to you with much respect !

The Trio of Depeche Mode after Alan still had success but never the same when Alan left. I don't know where Depeche Mode is going now since today we lost Fletch. Please Alan come back. At least for some tribute shows. R.I.P. Andrew Fletcher 😢💔

Alan was the sonic architect of the real DM. So sad he left, he took his special sound with him.

Well he should feel validated now as he was listed as a member of the band for their Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction!

Depeche Mode without Alan is in Demo Mode. Sad but true

Fantastic insight into Alan’s departure from Depeche mode .He added something very special to the songs for the time he was in the band . Something that has been lost since he left

Happy 64th Wilder! 💖 Hoping this finds you truly happy & in good health. After all, you deserve the very best. Make a wish. 🌠

Andy McCluskey (from OMD) quote, "There was Martin who wrote the songs. There was Alan who was the musician who could really play and sort of produce, and really hold it all together. There was Dave, just shut up and sing Dave Gahan. Then there was Andy and it was like what does Andy do? Then we realized that he's kind of the manager really. When you could sneak up on him behind stage you could realize that he wasn't really playing anything on stage. We used to joke about it. You're not really playing the keyboard are you? You're the manager you're playing the cash register. You've got an accounting machine. Put your hands up and clap."

Alan was always the best member of DM. I love his Recoil project too!

When I heard Alan's remix version of In Chains, it blew me away during the last 2 mins of the track, that acoustic drum pattern and electro guitar made the track stand out compared with the album version. Those who heard ' In Chains ' remix will know what Alan brings into a song.

I love your analysis of why Alan Wilder left the band. I've always thought the same things. It's so sad AW left and I hope he comes back. DM is not the same without him.

The real DM with Alan Wilder 🎹

I remember reflecting on the songscapes of DM when I was 16 and all those mysterious sounds in the back of the main soundscape. Not aware it was the work of one person: Alan. I was in awe with lyrics but transported to another world by the sounds. Only much later did i realise that Alan had been the man behind this magical engineering. Alan I salute you. RESPECT

I agree with this. The band never quite reached the same heights without Alan. I always thought his approach to sound design is what gave them their magic.

Alan represents a typical work environment. There are the ones who prop up the company without recognition and the shirkers get the glory.

The genius Alan was never appreciated. I think that Dave appreciated Alan and regretted that he didn’t let him know he was more behind him.

It’s never too late for Reunion..! Stronger together-always..! Love DM..!👍

It's been seriously down hill for DM since Alan Wilder left. Comparing their output since it really shows that Fletch's clapping can't save them.

Alan was the fuel that allowed Depeche Mode to Rocket to incredible heights.🚀

Alan is a Genius!!!!

I didn't start liking DM until Alan joined. I tried to get into the Vince Clarke era but it's too bubblegum for my taste. When Alan left I sort of lost interest in the band.

Excellent perspective, exellent view about Alan Wilder. He was truly an architect of Deptche Mode band in terms of sounding, creative music atmospher, his excellent taste on sound enginerring, music production, and Vocal, Keyboards. He was the best man for aproving the final mix & mastering knowledge before production.

Alan remixed a post-Alan DM song and it suddenly sounded like it should be. That moment it became evident that he was indeed the heart of their sound. The salt.

I’m a fan from Speak and Spell to Violator only. I’m not the only fan of Depeche Mode with that time frame. For fans like me, they became darker and darker and the music didn’t just evolve, it changed. Drugs destroy everything. I can’t blame him for leaving that toxic environment. Sad. They have never been the same to me after violator. Thank you for this! I always wondered why they lost me.

During COVID, I've had this enlightenment with my favorite band. Several times a week I listen to In Your Memory, Fools, and My Joy. I've been very fortunate to see every one of their tours since 1985. I've only known DM with Alan Wilder since his contributions starting with A Broken Frame. Like a lot of people have said.He was the sound of the group. You never want to acknowledge the bad egos of your favorite group, but it always seem apparent. I was deeply sad when he left the band and feared for their future, just like everyone else. However, the band moved on. To this day, Ultra is one of my favorite releases. Even though it took more musicians to replace what Alan, himself could do. I feel the journey of Depeche Mode is coming to an end. Delta Machine and Spirit, in my opinion, didn't make a great impact. So I will say, for the final swan song of Depeche Mode's career, is to reunite with Alan and create an amazing sound that the band and true fans will feel proud of. I know that's asking a lot, but it's my pipe dream. I will never forget this band until the day I die.

I was at the last show he played with the band. They played and sounded fantastic.

Image if Alan came back for a new album and a tour...

TBH I haven't bought a Depeche Mode record since Alan left, he can never be replaced because Alan was the genius behind their unique sound! I saw Depeche Mode 3 times while Alan Wilder was still in the band,The Devotion tour was outstanding!!

Just watched the Vimeo video after reading some remarks here as I hadn't seen it. What struck me the most was the contrast between Dave and Fletcher. Dave was very lucky to escape his own torments and shows obvious remorse about Alan's departure. Dave also highlighted the paranoia between Martin and Fletcher which he never got about their feeling Alan was 'taking over'. PmSl. Taking over!!! If it hadn't been for Alan they would never have reached the heights they did. The Fletcher comment was revealing also. He didn't want to do another album with Alan. Considering his 'abilities' whatever they may be, I thought this was the most disrespectful thing I have ever heard. If Dave hadn't been as far out of his head as he had been then maybe things could have been different. But it sounds to me that Fletcher and Gore were at him well before he decided to leave. Such a shame. I suppose I tolerated Fletcher for years really. As a keyboard player myself I know for a fact just how little Fletcher did on stage purely from observation alone. Zero respect for him now.

ALAN WILDER WAS THE GENIUS BEHIND THE SUCCSS OF DEPECHE MODE ...RIP FLETCH

I’m 28 and came across Depeche Mode mostly due to my older cousins (17 y older than me) being huge fans. Playing The Angel came out when I was 12 or 13 so it’s the first album release I can remember. When I began to really pay attention to their discography and how their sound had evolved through the years, I kinda orbited towards the “Alan era” stuff and Ultra without really thinking about it or knowing much about them or their history as a band until more recently. So the fact that, after all this time, I actually preferred those albums without any kind of bias speaks volumes of Alan’s work with DM in my opinion, and honestly it makes me a bit sad I wasn’t alive back then to see it. Loved the video, thank you :)

Thank you man for this video. Alan Wilder was the soul & sound of Depeche Mode. Martin was the heart and Dave was the face.A body without a soul or heart will end up dead..

I agree 100% to you sir. Peak was before Alan left. BR Michal

I enjoy reading most of your comments.....and every on off you are right.....Alan was the balance for this group....he was always couple 100 years ahead...I hope you understand..))

Wow that is an eye opening and revealing story. Good for Alan Wilder he did right. It's a shame how money seems to ruin relations.

They are missing the great sound from mr Wilder

Everything counts in large amounts

HI...greetings from Brazil. I loved this video and his comments. I agree with each words that you say. The best DM albuns are made before Alan leave the band.

Alan was (and still is) a really a great musician, a pro. I was hoping he could have a better career, in his solo projects (Recoil) and as a producer. He deserved much more in the second part of his artistic life. As a huge DM fan, I was truly shocked back in 1995 when he announced his decision to leave the band. I really thought this would be the end of my favorite band... but 25 years later they still rock and move me. I appreciate Dave being more involved in songwriting. I will not compare 80-90s sound with what they are doing now. World has changed, Music industry has changed, recording and producing processes are completely different nowadays. That’s life. I m grateful that my favouvrite band is still here and i still look forward to each new album of them ❤️

You are just spot on😔 DM was at their peak with AW. He was the sound of DM... no one couldn’t fill his shoes, afterwards.... 😔

I completely agree with your assessment. Depeche Mode has lost something. It’s hard to say that they would be any better if Alan was still with the band, but it is obvious that the era of Violator and SOFAD was their best. I believe that Alan was at his best when he was in Depeche Mode. Recoil over the years lost a spark to the point where he finally just put it on the shelf. Depeche Mode is still going but the emotion in the music is progressively being watered down - uninspired. Yes they still have a lot of cool sounds, good lyrics, but it’s not nearly as emotional moving as it once was.

It would have been fairer (both financially and artistically) if the last 3 Alan albums (MFTM to SOFAD) had been credited with Alan as co producer rather than Depeche Mode. NONE of the subsequent albums credit DM as co producers, which confirms that it was primarily Alan in that role.

Alan added a level of class to the band's compositions.

SOFAD is a master piece and it s at least 50% thanks to Alan.. this guy is a wizard of sound . However Martin is a better songwriter.. they were both the perfect match.

I still miss him everyday. In my mind he's still there. He was the core, he was the soul. The sound of DM was never the same since he left. It hurts so much, it's like a missing finger in a hand, now you can using properly your hand without one finger, but it's not the same grip. I miss him dearly.

I agree with your assessment 100%! Violator was it for me! That album blew my freaking mind as a kid! The Violator Rose is the only tattoo of a band I have on me! I wish Alan would come back for a world tour one more time so I can see them together live!

I don't know if he (Alan) takes any enjoyment from it, but it's certainly true to say that DM haven't been the same since he left. Their has been a significant decline in their output, which I'm sure they would disagree with. Maybe they would say that it had been their intention to strip things back all along. Despite the fact that he was with the band for 13 years, it would appear that his contribution wasn't considered important enough by Gahan, Gore and Fletcher, whereas it was clear to everyone else that he added so much to how they sounded and which has now gone. By all accounts, he wasn't considered as an equal within the band and I'm surprised that he didn't leave sooner. Depeche Mode needed Alan Wilder and I'm sure his leaving is something that they grew to privately regret because they haven't been able to maintain the level that they were at since.

Check interviews with Alan Wilder from late 80´s/ early 90´s. In Bong (fan club magazine) he was asked in cca 1989 what he plans to do in 10 years time. And Alan was clear as water. He said that he hoped he would be making music outside Depeche Mode. Can´t remember the exact words but he said he hoped he would make music without commercial pressure. Many times Alan said he couldn´t see himself as a pop band member by the age of 40.

Looking back in time... I thank God, that the Best band ever are still there... I've already bought tickets for next year's tour. But after Andy's death, I still have a feeling that Alan should come back and do, what he does Best... His brilliant brain and ears... No doubt, that he is the one who was DM's sound creator. I love DM's newer songs (Ultra +), but Alan will always be irreplacable for me.

Thanks for this video. Team work makes the dream work. The recipe combination of Dave, Martin and Alan is the reason DM created great songs and successful albums. Exciter, Playing the Angel were good albums but I imagine they would have been better with Alan’s involvement. It’s understandable that a band wants to evolve and expand their musical creativity and working with different producers and there have been a couple of good singles however the last few albums are just not capturing and missing the DM essence that Alan brought into their songs. I really hope DM see if for what it is and come to the realization that together they are a winning formula. Hopefully they can set aside the egos and recollaborate to produce the incredible music DM fans love.

Great insights, thanks you. Loved this band since I was 13, I’m now 48. There is no doubt that the band lost a huge chunk of creativity and soul when Alan left. They would never be the same but proved they could weather the storm of life and bounce back, albeit in a slightly different tone. Still magnificent. DM4Life!

Honestly, i grew up with DM. I am 50 years old now ! And to me it is just a pleasure to see what different stages DM got thru the times ! From a pop synth band to industrial sound to .....a rock band with quite some synth in it ! I love their live perfomance with more guitar and live drumming !

Nice video. It's still hard for me to accept DM for what they are today. Without that Alan Wilder production, it will never be the same. All this mentioning that Fletcher didn't like Alan and Martin wouldn't communicate with Alan makes me realise that hey, everyone feels like this with someone in any workplace. Even though this subject matter of Alan Wilder leaving the band is OH SO SAD, and HOW THINGS USED TO BE, how about it's been 25 years since Alan Wilder exited and I am really still super fucking pissed with him that he left DM!

Great Video! Appreciate the time you put in to make this. I really enjoyed it.!

Excellent video! I couldn’t agree more. I’ve been an immense fan of DM since 1987 and vividly recall thinking these exact points: about Alan and the obvious workload he carried against what he was likely being paid, how he QUITE obviously handled the lion’s share of playing on tour (you only need to watch 101 to see that!), and finally about how he had apparently crafted that “exquisitely controlled atmosphere“ that became the trademark sound of a DM album at their Violator heights. Alan was an immense blessing to the group and I had also doubted they’d be able to continue without him. But I also agree they’ve produced some fantastic work since, absolutely! (Broken ❤️) I do wish that they’d all be able to work together again some day though. Then we’d ALL win! 👍😎

I think DM has managed to release a lot of really great music after Alan left. Martin is a very talented musician, after all. But I think I'm gonna have to agree with you. The band never was quite the same without Alan.

Great stuff dude. Thanks a lot. Thumbs-up and a new subscriber from Lima, Peru ( country of Paddington bear)

Been a massive fan since the early days. Been to loads of shows and when Allan left I didn’t realized how important he really was. I mean it was after SOFD tour. Then Ultra album came along and it was pretty good, followed by the Singles Tour. That was a great tour of many hits and not Ultra songs. So we kind of forgot the input Alan had until the crappie albums started to follow. I ended going to few more shows and it turned out to be the same style. Fans are looking forward to hearing the old stuff. I stopped buying albums from DM ways back, but to keep my interest I’d get peak of the their new stuff on KZfaq. With every new album, it was slow and I had no interest in the songs. It took me 25 years to realize that dépêche mode was done when Alan Wilder left.

"Devotional Tour".......Unforgettable!!!

I do love the Alan years more than the rest. But things like this happen in bands. He was in the band for 13 years. 25years after he leaves we are still talking about him and what could of been. When depeche mode were inducted this year in the rock&roll hall of fame. They included both Alan and Vince. Who both are part of the history. It's great that Dmode are still kicking and pushing foward. If Alan stayed maybe the band may of fizzled out earlier. Instead he left and the Band had to rethink. Maybe the rethink saved more members from leaving or going down risky paths. You never know. But thank god Depeche mode happened. The band could of split up back in 82 when vince left.

I am Depeche Mode follower since 1983. I would like to thank you for your video, very Educational. I miss the Depeche Mode that Alan wilder used to produce music for. the DM today lacks that certain sound that we all loved.

Wow! I never knew Alan did so much for the success of DM. I only hear about "Martin Gore this and Martin Gore that..." I don't blame him for being disenfranchised and leaving.

Depeche Mode will be my Favorit Band forever! It is sad that Alan leave the Band he was underrated I Think! But to be in a Band for 13 Years is a long time and I Think he was also sad to leave. I understand him and what he did. Yes! Enjoy the silence! He Made this Song so great!

I wish my childhood heroes were bigger men, than they turned out to be.

I have been playing around composing with synthesizers for 30yrs and do so daily because of DM, but just for my ears. There is a gold standard that I benchmark the patches, timbres, (soumds)I create, and it is Alan Wilders sound. Many thousands of synth band’s out there during that time, and all their synth sounds while certainly decent sounds they employ to write songs, they are pretty standard, even with many of the greats during that era. Not only did he have an ear for creating a patch, he paired them like fine wine with fine cheese (well actually, “cheese” is a better descriptor for what other bands used, the Yamaha DX-7 tones), and I have only come up with a precious handful that I have ever felt were a cut above like Alan’s stylings.

Happy 62nd A. C. Wilder! 💖 Hope this finds you in good health & you have all the happiness your heart desires. You deserve the very best.

He was also the cutest one by far, so there's also that. ; )

Allan took his Sound with him and DM has not gotten to me since, it was a heavy love affair thou

Thank you, Nick! Agree with everything! We miss Alan even stronger as nothing new comes from his part.

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Typical problems that plague every band that has ever existed. It's difficult to compromise artistic differences unless roles are clearly defined and everyone agrees to those roles. Money destroys families and friends on a daily basis, so an unbalanced workload compensation will cause irreparable problems, too

Violator was a start of the end..... Great band, thnx for this Music.

You are right on Nick. Once Alan left, the music just didn't appeal to many of us fans. The way he layered the sounds, while Martin played guitar. Just amazing. I heard that Andrew only played basic keyboards like the base synthesizer sounds. Keep doing what you are doing Nick. Congradulations to the band for their Rock n Roll Hall of Fame Induction. Much Deserved.

True we miss Alan in DM and without Alan joining them back in 1982 they wouldn't have been what they are today , no everything counts no master and servant no behind the wheel and so on he brought the industrial sound and and put it all together with all these small details ,dark atmosphere and classical composing part´s . when that said this couldn't have happened without Martins brilliant words , melodies and Dave´s Voice ( performance ) they had that unique blend . I fell in love with master and servant instantly when i heard it for the first time as 9 years old back in the summer of 1984 and was a huge devotee until the relese of Ulta and then it hit me so hard that it was Alan´s influence and work in the band i was in love with. DM have made good song´s since but it´s just plain easy listening music now the darkness around the songs and the little detail´s are gone I do think that Martin was getting tired of this electronic industrial sound and just wanted to be a blues kind of band if you look up the World violation tour here on YT you can see martin looking bored playing the metal pipes like he dont care at all Thx for reading and good to see alot of you knowing what he did for these bunch or eyeliner wearing wierdo´s from Bassildon Alan wilder is the BOSS