Why did anarchists ASSASSINATE THE PRESIDENT of Renault?

Why did anarchists ASSASSINATE THE PRESIDENT of Renault? - Past Gas #31-32

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4 жыл бұрын

On a cold Parisian night in November 1987, Renault President Georges Besse was gunned down in cold blood. Who pulled the trigger, and why? To find out, we explore the history of the American Motors Corporation, and the parallel history of war-torn France. We also explore the motivations driving Jean-Marc Rouillan, the French anarchist behind Georges Besse’s assassination. Why did he target Georges, and how did his death put an end to AMC? We’re about to find out in this epic TWO-PARTER!
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@bobwalsh3751 4 жыл бұрын

40 for a senior executive was REALLY young back in the day, and even now is a bit young for an established company. If your company is a startup, you expect all the executives to be young, but if you're talking about a strongly established company like, say, General Motors, having a high level executive who's only 40 would elicit responses like "Damn son...what'd they do that I haven't done?"

@mattb4010 2 жыл бұрын

@@stevechristmas9439 thank

@dar._ 4 жыл бұрын

"You've got to slam the horse too" - fuck I died laughing at that.

@quantum_entangled_tardigrade 4 жыл бұрын

Nolan's guitar TOTALLY NOT strategically placed for all to see... :)

@mattmatthews5414 3 жыл бұрын

The amp is there too. He totally does masked Slipknot cover videos when he’s not doing donut stuff.

@zimutes 3 жыл бұрын

if it was on purpose he wouldn't show that line 6 amp :(

@1FAST91SONOMA 3 жыл бұрын

@@zimutes hey, line 6 is a good entry level amp. They're not the best but they're affordable and have an absolute ton of options.

@cosmicjohn174 Жыл бұрын

@@zimutes was the first thing that popped in my head hahah

@zimutes Жыл бұрын

@@1FAST91SONOMA god knows I know that. I was just joking.

@stratis722 3 жыл бұрын

That moment when there's a SimpliSafe ad on a podcast on the assassination of a Renault president.

@rosethyname 4 жыл бұрын

James with that Unenthusiastic: more power baby....😂💀

@archerstown 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best Philly impressions I've heard. I can agree with all those points, and we do hate our own sports teams. They lose? We riot. They win? We riot!

@dodowdr3 4 жыл бұрын

Whoa Nolan actually got a sg!! It looks cool man!

@jonathangt-ramgm3nismo591 4 жыл бұрын

I didnt know he played guitar ++respect

@Magic-Conk 4 жыл бұрын

I am truly amazed how you guys keep upping the production quality as best possible. A big thank you, from the 502

@andrewgould2439 4 жыл бұрын

I'll be honest I'd love to have another podcast from you guys where you talk about those other hobbies or in general shoot the shit. Cheap/easy to make (compared to other productions) and they usually bring in good revenue. Could even do audio-only. I like your scripted content but the unscripted side convos during these have been great

@justinaug9879 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for keeping these going fellas. I love you!

@TheTubaEmporer 4 жыл бұрын

Love me some coffee and Donut in the morning!

@jacobrzeszewski6527 4 жыл бұрын

Yo, that intro was so dungeons and dragons podcast. I love it. That’s how EVERY past gas should start.

@fastinradfordable 4 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking. .... An intro where they are each doing something comical while preparing would be funny. Would be easy with them at home because each one could do their part like the most recent “Saturday night live”

@toddadams8420 4 жыл бұрын

Dude james! You need to expand that hot rod horse drawn carriage idea....that was hilarious!!

@cardsatanywhere363 3 жыл бұрын

The way to tell James isnt enthusiastic bc of lock down is when he says MORE power baby

@martinmiller3560 4 жыл бұрын

I'm feeling a good vibration

@minoassal 4 жыл бұрын

One even might say.." Cool Viberations" +Shingo points if you get the reference

@joshshelby7322 4 жыл бұрын

Thats what makes some cars so good they take all the best parts from other manufacturers and put them together

@bigpapieddie 4 жыл бұрын

That intro was great! You guys should do more like that!

@harisbarounis 4 жыл бұрын

The anime finally caught up to the manga

@HLPC_2 4 жыл бұрын

lol perfect analogy!

@kry685 4 жыл бұрын

48:20 is when the second part starts

@danielgarrett1155 4 жыл бұрын

The singer sewing machine co. made my father's model 1911 45cal. In 1917 . Even the sewing machine company became a gunsmithing shop

@derrickstorm6976 4 жыл бұрын

Cool Of course that makes sense, they had their own metalworks manufacturing plant(s)

@jmoney7289 4 жыл бұрын

That's a fuckin amazing piece of firearms history

@ryanmills7986 4 жыл бұрын

Aircraft Carriers are cool your first week on board... not so much when you've been out to sea for 6 months.

@rosethyname 4 жыл бұрын

Donut Media is #1 for automotive content. PERIOD.

@timjames3717 4 жыл бұрын

Keep the podcasts coming fellas great job! I enjoy them all on my 3 hr commute for work. Wasn't sure where to post this, but how about doing a podcast on Kousuke “MAD” Kida creator of Signal Auto?? That would be cool to hear the info you guys can come up with. Thanks!

@eskamobob8662 4 жыл бұрын

I like the bar at the bottom during the sponsor spot.

@_generation_youth_x28 4 жыл бұрын

WE NEED SCIENCE GARAGE PODCAST...im studying extended mechanical engineering and automotive design..podcasts to listen to whilst studying or working would help soo much..either that or hook me up and id LOVE to do a podcast with you guys

@fastinradfordable 4 жыл бұрын

_Generation_ Youth_X Studying something that tough you shouldn’t be listening to science garage while you work.

@_generation_youth_x28 4 жыл бұрын

Nathan Brame Ik it’s just some light relief that keeps me in the headspace

@sethelias9763 4 жыл бұрын

Super legit I'm digging these podsss

@someperson7 8 ай бұрын

OshKosh B'gosh is the name of an Kids Clothing company that was originally headquartered in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. Carters bought them, but the brand lives on.

@TheBrianFlanagan 3 жыл бұрын

They’re probably not shouting out Kenosha, Wisconsin anymore. 😂 💀

@xxGwoodxx 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing bro 🤣

@lil_jeep_6345 3 жыл бұрын

Kenosha Kyle- The Tree of Liberty Has Been Watered.

@charleerepine5867 4 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorite podcast! The only thing that could make me love it more is to see some future episodes on women involved in automotive history. Stay safe and healthy!

@jeffreyvences5746 4 жыл бұрын

Nawwww wee goodddd

@minoassal 4 жыл бұрын

Michelle Mouton episode is a must

@xzavier1014 4 жыл бұрын

Yo love the podcasts man , these podcasts are literally gold in times like these 🤙🤙👌

@Mustardmartin 4 жыл бұрын

@donut podcasts damn pumphrey has the FIRE GARAGE setup 🔥

@eurosonly 4 жыл бұрын

wow new format. I like it.

@TheJarhead02 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys for keeping me from going stir crazy, You all need to come out and run the the Snake on 421 in east tn

@jonintheredZ06 3 жыл бұрын

I can't speak for the 40s ones but I've been up over the Florida State Fair in the Batcopter from the 60s Adam West show, it was pretty stable and fun to ride in.

@skyfreakwi 7 ай бұрын

I had a 1969 Rambler Rebel. It was a metallic green. My uncle told me when I bought it that the unibody was pretty rusty and not to open all four doors and jump in at once. Not sure if he was joking but I made sure not to try. He also told me if I ever went into a ditch on winter not to rock it or call a tow truck, just put it in gear and drive it out. I actually tried this going off in a blizzard. Sure enough between the light weight and smooth bottom I assume enabled it to just drive out with no problem. Mine unfortunately had the littlest 232 straight 6 not the monster 454 V8. Everywhere I went someone had a story of their dad or uncle getting a ticket for going 150 mph plus. The front fenders had an unfortunate styling que with a depression formed in-between the hood and a slight ridge or fin at the edge. This allowed water to pool on the front fenders causing full length rust holes. Mine had duct tape running from the head lights to the windshield painted to match the car. It was a good 20/20 car. It also comfortably slept 5.

@peterkurtz8096 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda crazy but I'm from Kenosha Wisconsin. I remember my step dad telling me how his family lived near the assembly plant and watching them bring off BRAND NEW AMC CARS off the line. Pretty cool history all together if you ask me

@Lenoch_ 4 жыл бұрын

LOVE the music in the Beginning

@arceyes 4 жыл бұрын

Nolan sounds like a young James Earl Jones

@patrickracer43 4 жыл бұрын

As someone who lives in the Philadelphia region, James Philly accent was on point

@andrewbailey2063 4 жыл бұрын

A series on Saleen would be cool

@maxanstine1139 4 жыл бұрын

Really like the new theatrics and audio stuff!

@dustintaber 3 жыл бұрын

Idk why I think it's so funny but those edits of the sounds of war with James looking unimpressed are hilarious 48:22

@liamfbules2999 2 жыл бұрын

I pictured a beige 1996 honda accord. Loving all the podcasts.

@daltonklutz7668 3 жыл бұрын

Driving from D.C to Seattle only thing I listened to was the Past Gas Podcasts

@xR3Dx0 2 жыл бұрын

James plz don't leave us 😢 I only watch donut for you...and Noland...and Jeremiah!

@willr69420 4 жыл бұрын

Fascinating, simply fascinating.

@tetchuma 2 жыл бұрын

My first car was an AMC Alliance… in 2000, in Plano, TX. It was quirky, slow but incredibly fuel efficient!!! My high school was only about 15 miles away, but a tank would last a month!!!! 35-50ish MPG. It was about the same size of a mid-80’s Corolla or Civic, but muuuuch more difficult to get parts for. Most spare parts came from Kenosha, WI. I still have the service manual and the parts catalog (mail order) that I would write to for oil filters and a window crank… The interior wasn’t anything fascinating, but it did have a cool warning light system that my dads BMW 528e had. It warned you when washer fluid was low, you had a brake light out, blinker out, due for oil change, etc. (The tape deck didn’t work, but that light warning system sure did)

@chrisS19019 3 жыл бұрын

Shout out from Kenosha right now. Driving down Lake Michigan to Chicago

@TheJarhead02 4 жыл бұрын

The corsair was flown mainly by marines most famously Pappy Boyington dang id love to see a podcast on him even though i dont think was to into cars. semper fi

@bluzif1177 4 жыл бұрын

cheers guys.

@kellym.puckett6209 3 жыл бұрын

Nolan out here with that Line 6 spider amp 😂

@grizzlybear702 4 жыл бұрын

Great show and perfect timing... if anyone has a 65-66 rambler classic 4dr with clean rear quarter panels they dont mind cutting and shipping let me know🤣👌👌

@jayrusty2012 4 жыл бұрын

Fascinating episode; thanks a lot guys for the great work; it did meander considerably, and the backstory (to the actual assassination) was extensive & in parts unnecessary/irrelevant but still i did enjoy it; shame that it built up too long to get to the actual assassination and then it just quickly wrapped up, i felt a bit cheated; maybe i just wanted some mo’ powa’ beby! 🤷🏻‍♂️

@xbraekdownx 3 жыл бұрын

Love these podcasts and funny enough my father has a 1962 rambler American and I love the car.

@jaberandom4462 4 жыл бұрын

This is very interesting because I never knew about it

@risingsun9595 4 жыл бұрын

That intro was awesome

@deesnutz42069 4 жыл бұрын

earth really do be vibin tho

@Sticky_sock 4 жыл бұрын

The F4U was built like that for stability, that's why the tips of the wings level with top of the fuselage.

@This1Person 4 жыл бұрын

Love the "Hat Wall"

@marcogallo2811 4 жыл бұрын

try building some gunpla/gundam kits, i had a couple stock piled that I was meaning to build and with being home 24/7 now I finally built them and its a time suck. Especially once you get into aging/weathering them to make them. They look sick. I have this idea I wanna try one day of painting a kit in a car companies colors and doing decals on it.

@fastinradfordable 4 жыл бұрын

Car mode kits are tremendous fun. I’ve done a few. Last one was a Porsche slant nose and I customized (lowered) the suspension. It is a lot of fun.

@chrismcdonald4572 4 жыл бұрын

59:00 yo james had a dad growing up, up to speeds time line is shattered!!!

@Kyrpptic 4 жыл бұрын

chris mcdonald at 60:00

@fastinradfordable 4 жыл бұрын

We all “have dads” Doesn’t mean they were there when we grew up.

@Izzye007 3 жыл бұрын

Fired Up! XD

@tonypintarelli877 2 жыл бұрын

James: puts pop up and down lanterns on a carriage.

@ilham7345 4 жыл бұрын

joe and nolan really work on that melo-death album

@keithlarsen8423 4 жыл бұрын

Nolan is like an american David Attenborough, his voice is so calming

@garrettschultz4129 4 жыл бұрын

Speaking of AMC, their production headquarters still stands on Plymouth road and Mark Twain in Detroit. After Chrysler bought AMC and went bankrupt the building was sold for $1.2 million to a scrapper who claimed he wanted to turn the former production building into a home for children with autism. He never paid any taxes on it and owed around $260,000 before the bank reclaimed it for auction. It then sold for $500 in 2015 with the promise of paying over $190,000 of taxes left on the building.

@childish_zay1403 4 жыл бұрын

What is the history podcast James and Nolan listen to? It was a few podcasts back; however, I cannot seem to remember which episode it was on? HELP!!

@learnmyname123 4 жыл бұрын

One of my Commanding Officers on a carrier had "Fire it up" as his sign off catchphrase. He would end every announcement he made on the 1MC with it.

@cecilmorrell 3 жыл бұрын

Nolan, my dude, what Line 6 amp are you using?

@Max-yg6gs 4 жыл бұрын

The intros are fire

@brianferreira4554 3 жыл бұрын

You need more soundtrack like the into when you guys are actually being on topic LOL.

@ilanloberant9719 4 жыл бұрын

do an episode on audi vs lancia rally

@NinjaThatLongboards 4 жыл бұрын

Coach building is sick bro

@johnnydixon5687 2 жыл бұрын

I like Nolan’s side talking

@anthonydowling1296 4 жыл бұрын

I knew it was only a matter of time before past gas talked about passing gas.

@paranjaychaudhary1655 4 жыл бұрын

Finally made it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Post_Maquel 3 жыл бұрын

that additional sound effect is brought to you by the pandemic hahaha

@jblox1990 2 жыл бұрын

Great episode. We poke a fair deal of fun at the French, but they truly have their hardcore moments and always did. Lest we forget- without the French, there'd be no 'Merica. But that was more of an Eff-You to the British than a hells yeah to the USA. Anyway, about the AMC TM ownership question, I wondered the same thing. I love the AMX, so I painted a Pensky AMX body for my RC car a few years back. On the body's packaging, it had an "AMC Officially Licensed Product" seal on it. It did make me think. Who's keeping track of IP usages associated with a relatively small, never particularly successful car company that's been defunct for almost a half-century? You guys really should look into buying the rights to it. Totally bizarre flex.

@Jimrlst 4 жыл бұрын

I just finished watching the last 2 episodes, perfect timing!

@shanavlakaram4919 4 жыл бұрын

What an intro! Thanks for the great podcast guys

@ogion539 4 жыл бұрын

Joe looks way more like a rock climber from the front perspective

@tallonmetroids271 4 жыл бұрын

Love the Navy shoutout. But if you think the carriers were cool, you should check out the subs. Seriously, Wikipedia actually has a decent amount of sub info out there.

@xxGwoodxx 3 жыл бұрын

Shout out Kenosha, Wisconsin amiright

@williamdickman7917 3 жыл бұрын

Guys the Corsair's wings are called inverted gull wings

@DreamWrench 4 жыл бұрын

I keep waiting for Nolan's guitar to fall over

@hhamudi 2 жыл бұрын

was james stoned the second half 😂

@zachhoward9099 2 жыл бұрын

Probably popped an edible just before going on air🤣

@tanssi2145 4 жыл бұрын

Joes Hoosier Racing Hat 💜🔥

@mrmi125 4 жыл бұрын

Sacrebleu, non d'une pipe, saperlipopette ! Quel bon épisode ! Love when you butcher french names and words 😂 (I'm french) Great episodes guys, very interesting, thanks ! It is truly fascinating to see how far the story goes... It is strange in deed that Renault's leaders are such unreliable guys, as unreliable as their Renault cars...? 😎😜 I wonder if a company like Renault could have change the automobile landscape in America. The company makes crappy cheap cars, but it is way ahead of others car makers in many ways, and it may have brought small efficient cars sooner in the US. Then Citroen and Peugeot would have wanted their bit too. Altogether, along with the Japanese. I guess we will never know. What french cars do you have in the US ? The AMC Alliance looks a lot like Renault 9 & 11

@RCDisiac 3 жыл бұрын

I owned a alliance but it wasn't a normal alliance it was called a 87 alliance GTA convertible. Only a couple thousand made before discontinuing well AMC...1987 company was sold to mopar/dodge. Renault's main demand is that any car that was produced would have Renault's badge

@nitroshortbus9856 4 жыл бұрын

I love when you cut to Joe and he's staring blankly straight at the camera!!! You guys kill me, hilarious edit.

@nashcaudle7938 4 жыл бұрын

An AMC's defense, they were still running basically 50's rambler motor technology during trans am. While the big 3 had WAAAAAY more development technology. Kaplans finish in 68 is impressive for a first year car considering they almost beat Ford which had been making the mustang for years. A lot of the ford guys don't really count the 71 win because and I quote, "they bought a championship with penske". You know what ford had done with lemans a few years earlier? They bought a championship with shelby. It's the facts you don't tell

@tommysk8r94 4 жыл бұрын

I have the same guitar Amp lol

@RCDisiac 3 жыл бұрын

Midway thru ww2 sources were running out and u couldn't buy copper aluminum steel etc. But houses needed to be built for the military families so theres a whole city that is built out of anything that would work and the houses started falling apart and service was almost impossible because of the types of materials that were used to replace the precious metal items the houses are patched together till this day.... also as a kid growing up in detroit in the 90s one of the best things to do was go shoot possums and rats with my brothers and our friends inside the Packard plant which was closed down and deteriorating by the day..Packard plant had it's own elementary school

@tonylastra4353 4 жыл бұрын

You guys should do an episode about Wendell Scott

@eliot.s_2672 4 жыл бұрын

James should try out balsa models

@LoudCobra1 3 жыл бұрын

Good,good,good good vibrations

@minoassal 4 жыл бұрын

Fellow Algerian here

@austinprice770 4 жыл бұрын

Please do a motorcycle episode!

@turbhoeheflin1168 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂nice carriage! Love it! Mini horse with low rider carriage. 😂😂

@yuccamachaon3974 2 жыл бұрын

Actually Besse’s corporate Human Resources management wasn’t the reason he’s got killed. He was a part of uranium exploitation in Northern Africa on the France ex-colonial territory while being a chairman of Eurodif. That’s a uranium enrichment plant financed by and founded in cooperation with Iran’s government, who shared with France the same aim - to obtain a nuclear weapon. Still, after the plant’s been successfully launched, France politicians didn’t wanted to fulfill comments under the deal, so they actively financed a civil war in Iran + Iran-Iraq war. The assassination of Besse was a revenge. Besides him, Michelle Baroin, the curator of France strategic interests in Northern Africa, and Rene Audran, senior official of France Ministry of Defence, were also assossinated by the same radicals from Action Directe the same year. That’s exactly why Nicolas Sarcozy were at the crime scenes - he was the initiator of the nuclear deal with Iran. Radicals were trained and sponsored by Iran government. After getting the message, Sarcozy lobbied fulfilling most part of the deal commitments, and couples of days later Action Directe terrorists were arrested without struggling. There’s a much bigger picture, than guys have described